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Well, i ****ed up my phone.
Trying to bring it back alive failed, so I'm going to bring it
back to T-Mobile.
Does someone know a very good lie I can tell them, so I don't have to pay for the repair.
When i try to start my phone, i see a HTC splashscreen, and thats it. Normally it start with a T-Mobile splashscreen. Can they see i tried flashing my phone, or is that an assumption they make.
CCRDude said:
I don't think using bold letters and the clear word "lie" will help you a lot... you just highlight that you ask for illegal help
Maybe you should take a look at the bricked-devices topic for a chance to revive it?
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I have spent the last 3 days 30 hours orso fixing my phone. Revive is something my dead baby won't do.
vayip said:
I have spent the last 3 days 30 hours orso fixing my phone. Revive is something my dead baby won't do.
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enter the bootloader; try to flash a regular update from your provider to it.
vayip said:
Well, i ****ed up my phone.
Trying to bring it back alive failed, so I'm going to bring it
back to T-Mobile.
Does someone know a very good lie I can tell them, so I don't have to pay for the repair.
When i try to start my phone, i see a HTC splashscreen, and thats it. Normally it start with a T-Mobile splashscreen. Can they see i tried flashing my phone, or is that an assumption they make.
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I did the same with my Vodafone (UK). I just told them I'd hard reset and this is all I can see on the screen (don't get stroppy etc).
Mine will be back Tuesday, warranty repaired.
Vod UK use an outside repair centre so will probably be the same as T-Mobile if you are in UK. Mine needed a new motherboard, but there is a bit of a shortage in the UK (too many bricks???). I guess it depends on the outside service centre contract whether they charge you or T-mobile (and maybe also because I had warranty and Insurance)..
Just go in and plead ignorance, but if they want to charge you, ultimately it was you that ****ed it and not them
Toast it in the microwave for 5 seconds!
boz said:
Toast it in the microwave for 5 seconds!
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That's a new one - when car radio codes first came out they always said to put them in the freezer then stroke the chips legs to erase the cmos... never worked for me, but I'd probably get away with the microwave thing with 3 kids at home!!!
@ Olipro
If you mean the SD-card flashing, T-Mobile Holland doesn't have an update available. There is an T-Mobile Holland ROM available, but the image is older than the image installed on my phone. When checking the ROM in the white screen, it says not allow. I think i need ROM 1.21.114.3 from T-Mobile if I want to do the SD-card flash.
I only have access to the bootloader, I have bootloader 1.04, and I have access to KITL mode, but the Windows CE Platform Builder fix also doesn't work
@ ach2
I was thinking also something like that. That I hard reset my phone and now it's broke. I was also thinking something like I left my phone on the charger for the weekend, and when I came back I did a soft reset because it wouldn't go on and know I only see a HTC splash screen.
vayip said:
When i try to start my phone, i see a HTC splashscreen, and thats it. Normally it start with a T-Mobile splashscreen. Can they see i tried flashing my phone, or is that an assumption they make.
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Can you think of a good reason whey the boot screen has changed from the normal T-Mobile one... just hope they don't turn on the phone. Did you try Olipro's suggestion?
@ Wam7
The T-Mobile splash screen is in the extended ROM. If the extended ROM is ****ed up like mine is, it probably goes back to its embedded splash screen, and that's the one from HTC. But thats not what I'm going to say, I'm going to say how should I know.
If I remember correctly a guy has managed to dump the ROM from a Hermes and flash it to the phone... saw a thread somewhere here. If that's the case then you should just need a ROM from a fellow dutch T-Mobile owner with the newer ROM. I take it your phone is not SuperCID
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@ Olipro
If you mean the SD-card flashing, T-Mobile Holland doesn't have an update available. There is an T-Mobile Holland ROM available, but the image is older than the image installed on my phone. When checking the ROM in the white screen, it says not allow. I think i need ROM 1.21.114.3 from T-Mobile if I want to do the SD-card flash.
I only have access to the bootloader, I have bootloader 1.04, and I have access to KITL mode, but the Windows CE Platform Builder fix also doesn't work
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if you have 1.04; run the RUU on your computer; you will get a "Vender ID Error" immediately ignore this and run the updater AGAIN (do not touch or unplug your PDA) after doing this a second time it will begin to flash
vayip said:
Well, i ****ed up my phone.
Trying to bring it back alive failed, so I'm going to bring it
back to T-Mobile.
Does someone know a very good lie I can tell them, so I don't have to pay for the repair.
When i try to start my phone, i see a HTC splashscreen, and thats it. Normally it start with a T-Mobile splashscreen. Can they see i tried flashing my phone, or is that an assumption they make.
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seriously this is why MS and Carriers HATE us
Olipro said:
if you have 1.04; run the RUU on your computer; you will get a "Vender ID Error" immediately ignore this and run the updater AGAIN (do not touch or unplug your PDA) after doing this a second time it will begin to flash
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I did what you said. I connected the phone to my laptop in bootloader. I started the RUU from WMXL 0.20. My phone goes to the white screen and at 0% i get a message on my laptop the connection got disconnected. So i start the RUU again, but again the message my connection got disconnected.
So still working on a good lie.
@vayip: sounds like a problem with the USB on your laptop. Try using a different computer. BL1.04 will let you flash any OS provided your NAND isn't full of bad blocks. You're a long way away from returning your device to Tmo IMO.
On the new computer:
direct USB connect to rear port only no usb hubs
pc running windows XP
turn off screensaver/Powersave mode
close all other apps
hands off the computer for the 25 minutes or so that it takes
Sleuth255 said:
@vayip: sounds like a problem with the USB on your laptop. Try using a different computer. BL1.04 will let you flash any OS provided your NAND isn't full of bad blocks. You're a long way away from returning your device to Tmo IMO.[/list]
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Does it matter if the phone is simlocked or not. My phone is not SuperCID.
The strange thing than is, i have 2 laptops. Doing the upgrade don't work on both.
Will try a normal pc then. Maybe more luck.
Follow Oli's advice about retrying the update if you get an initial vendor ID error. BL1.04 will flash any rom without SuperCID due to a bug.
You might want to jump in with mtty first to see if your NAND is full of bad blocks. If it is then your device is toast fttb.....
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seriously this is why MS and Carriers HATE us
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I completely agree! If you ****ed up your device, than you should have the courage to stand up for it and if it was not your fault, than just tell them the truth! But suggestions like "put it in the microwave for 5secs".... come on
And just a small hint: If you (for example) really put it in the microwave, than you'll better pray that no technician ever analyses your device - if so you could get into serious trouble, mate.
Btw, if you microwave it, you probalby need a new microwave too.
Edit: And i dont think its warranty would cover "I just put my Phone in there"
"So still working on a good lie."
Doesn't breaking your phone through your own actions and then getting it repaired/ replaced for free by telling lies make you a liar and a thief?
I trashed 8525, and that sucks, but it was my fault so I have to pay for it.
In my adventures flashing Roms, I've only bricked 1 Hermes (Cingular 8525). I actually told the local Cingular shop that I broke it 2 weeks after I bought it. The manager told me to bring it in and she replaced it under the 30 day in-store return policy. I was suprised because I had caused the bad NAND Block problem on the device but she said that since I was able to get an official Cingular Rom flashed onto it and it booted into WM5 (just wouldn't do anything because of memory errors).
Now I also have a very good working relationship with this store. I've gotten a phone about every 6 months from them over tha past 2 years and have given them some great info regarding WM5 devices (reccomendations on screen protectors, software & cases etc). I have 3 lines (2 with Data) and even if they don't know me by name eveyone in the store knows me by reputation.
Tomorrow I will have my spare Hermes (also 8525) so we can begin experimenting with getting some additional storage memory without risking bricking my primary phone.
The way I see it, we are taking a chance when we modify our devices.
I've had to return 2 Wizards for Warranty replacement to Cingular, both were CID Unlocked but the problems were unrelated to flashing Roms (One was because the touch screen developed a dead spot the other was because of Radio hardware issues).
Well, I'm just not having a good year.
Before anyone jumps on me -- I've been digging through the wiki and forums for the past few days, and it doesn't seem like anyone else had had a similar problem...
I just received my JASJAM back from the service center. They said they couldn't fix the trashed radio ROM (good ol' Windows XP blue screened on me), and needed to replace the motherboard ($590), and it wasn't covered under warranty due to the "non-iMate software" I had installed. doh. I declined, and had them send it back to me. In the time between them receiving it and me getting it back, all of the cool new stuff from pof and olipro have come out (Hard SPL, etc). So I'm thinking I could fix it myself.
I put HardSPL on there, started to flash a new radio ROM, and it locked up for 90 minutes before it just went blank. It was getting power from the PC, the PC didn't fall asleep.. it just.. died.
Now I just get the red LED when it's plugged into power, and no LED when the battery is installed. The LED turns off when the battery is installed while there's power going into the unit.
I'm pretty sure this thing is a goner.
I've left the battery out for an hour or so, plugged it back in, same results. I tried the "pull power, pull battery, plug in power, plug in battery, reset" technique from the wiki - no difference.
Too bad this didn't happen before -- I bet iMate would replace the stupid thing now because it won't power up (I already called them -- the serial number has been blacklisted so they won't do anything for me, even if this is a hardware problem). :-\ ... I've considered sending it back and pay them to replace the system board... but I can buy a new TyTN for $650... and I'm sure something better is right around the corner from HTC, so I don't really want to spend the money on a system board replacement.
So I guess this post has two purposes: does anyone have any last resort ideas on how to get this thing to at least come back up to a boot loader... I'd be happy if it would even try to power the LCD panel back up.
If not... anyone want to buy a toasted JasJam off of me, for parts? It's got a front camera.. *wink wink* 8525'ers..
That sucks; but if there's no power at all, I'm guessing it's pretty toasted.
So, how much do you want for it?
im willing to buy the case and screen from u... hehe msg me or email me
my case has a few dents and scratches im want to take out... and the screen.. well =(
I assume that you can't get to bootloader mode?
Before you give it up for dead at least post your info in the "dead hermes? corrupted radio? Post comments here" sticky thread. The experts will review your post and they have been known to provide tips that fixed phones that others had given up for dead. Can't hurt to try and it could save you a few $$$.
How much do you want.. i may be interested!
Well, imei-check.co.uk does offer a repair service... Send them an e-mail (they'll ask you whether you used Pof's unlocker - which they call "cloned/cracked" - answer NO! else they'll add 20 pounds to it!)
Yannick
Even though there is nothing on the screen, while the red button is on try and go into the bootloader.
I am having the exact same issue after trying to upgrade to the new AKU 3 ROM from my SD card.
My screen went blank just at the beginning of the upgrade and since it does not power at all.
I follow the instructions mentioned in thread about this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286469&p=1077622
but after inserting at different time the battery when it is powered on, the red light goes off, so I am enable to do any soft reset.
Do you think it could be a related battery issue (my battery is a 3 months old original one).
Any suggestions are welcome!
Wam7 said:
Even though there is nothing on the screen, while the red button is on try and go into the bootloader.
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No such luck. My PC isn't even recognizing it on the USB bus. I tried on two other machines, and it doesn't show up there. Nothing on my Mac or Linux boxes, either. :-\
Grr.. I wish it had done this before I sent it to iMate for repair -- they would have swapped out the systemboard without giving me the grief of "you put non-iMate software on here, no warranty service for you!"
Heh. Expensive lesson learned. This is what I get for constantly trying to tweak and improve something that really didn't need to be tweaked and improved.
I'm probably just going to replace it with a TyTN/HERM200 now - I like the layout/d-keypad on it better.
I guess that planned Las Vegas vacation will have to wait a few more months. doh.
Cuivienor said:
Well, imei-check.co.uk does offer a repair service... Send them an e-mail (they'll ask you whether you used Pof's unlocker - which they call "cloned/cracked" - answer NO! else they'll add 20 pounds to it!)
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Already tried; they replied that it sounds like a hardware/system board issue and to send it in for service.
Of course, iMate refuses to fix it because they saw the 1.01MFG bootloader on there from when it originally died on me and have declared it out of warranty.
Originally I messed it up when I flashed the newest HTC ROM on there -- my windows machine blue screened. It toasted the radio rom. This was before HardSPL/etc, so I tried to downgrade it to 1.04 with no luck, then I managed to get 1.01MFG on there. From there, it refused to let me update anything, and I couldn't get back to 1.04 (in other words, it wasn't acting like *anyone* had said it would in the forums/wiki). From there, I was stuck with the HTC Rom (that had a big "TEST ROM" on the screen), booting into AKU3, and no way to put the JASJAM ROM back on it. So. yeah. I screewd myself by sending it to them for repair and not waiting for HardSPL/etc to be released.
Last night I was able to get the latest oilipro bootloader on it, and it was happily accepting a new radio ROM when it just powered itself off in mid flash. The red LED went on, and it just sat there. It hasn't done anything else since.
So I guess final word is: if you brick your device, before sending it in to the warranty... Well you should brick it a little more!
I hear microwaves can help you there
jmat said:
Last night I was able to get the latest oilipro bootloader on it, and it was happily accepting a new radio ROM when it just powered itself off in mid flash. The red LED went on, and it just sat there. It hasn't done anything else since.
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Well, If it let you get olipro on it there is still hope! Maybe a bad battery causing the shutdowns?
Cuivienor said:
So I guess final word is: if you brick your device, before sending it in to the warranty... Well you should brick it a little more!
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Exactly. Make sure it won't even turn on. LOL
JasenR said:
Well, If it let you get olipro on it there is still hope! Maybe a bad battery causing the shutdowns?
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Nope; I've tried a different battery and different power cables. Tried direct power, USB power.
There's nothing showing up on the USB bus at all -- it's not even showing up in USB monitor. On my Linux machine, the USB Host isn't seeing it.
It's dead. Other than the single red LED when it's only plugged in (with no battery).
I've done every key combo, tried to get into KITL (but without a USB link, it's a no go).
LegolasTheElf said:
I hear microwaves can help you there
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Hah. I bet sending 12-24 volts up a USB cable would do the trick as well.
jmat said:
Hah. I bet sending 12-24 volts up a USB cable would do the trick as well.
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go for the gold and apply 110
I had the smae problem with my 8525...It was toast, I sent it back to Cingular who repleaced it under warranty.. ."I dunno..it jsut died, you think a power surge or soemthign could cause this?"
short answer according to everything i read here when it happened to me...you're done.
Damnit and double damnit.
I've the EXACT same problem, but I didnt flash mine (at least in the last 5 days) Orange will not replace mine as the battery "moisture alert" has turned red spotted meaning - according to them, that I have kept it in my Speedos while I have been swimming, which isnt the case. It has been in humid environments tho, but what argument do I have?
If anything does work, ill be sure to let you know.
@scibot : this is abusive from them. I would try again at a different store if I were you. Tons of reasons this could happen, none of them your fault. I'm sure you'll find a decent explanation for the presence of that spot
The problem: I flashed a radio to my device that is (obviously) incompatible with my device (if you really want the details, its embarassing, but I'll post if necessary). My phone freezes on bootup, and never initializes the Radio/ROM (and for good reason).
This is what happens now: If my phone is off, I can turn it on, but I only get the first boot up screen, and the red numbers in the bottom right-hand corner never appear. At that point, I cannot turn off my phone without taking out the battery. If I take out the battery and put it back in, and attach the phone to a charger (or USB cable), the light on the phone will "breathe", as if its charging. However, if I then disconnect the phone, the light will CONTINUE breathing.
I also cannot turn on the phone while its connected to either the charger or USB cable.
My phone is Hard-SPL'ed and Security Unlocked. But the real issue I'm having is that I can't get into Bootloader to flash something else. Apparently, I've corrupted the Bootloader. When I turn the phone on, and press the reset button while holding Vol-down, the phone just goes black.
I might be okay getting a warranty exchange if not for this: I can still hard reset my phone. It doesn't make any sense to me, but when I turn it on, I can do the soft-reset-button, Vol-down, Action button combo, and my phone flashes through Bootloader to give the the hard reset menu. It flashes that screen just long enough to see that my phone has 1.90Olinex as the SPL. So, I think I may be screwed, unless someone here can help.
My wife is very . . . upset . . . about this, and is worried that we'll have to spend money because of my continuous "tinkering" with my phone.
Any help anyone can offer is greatly appreciated.
I know this is my own stupid fault, and I should've known better, but it would be nice to get confirmation from the experts here that I'm just going to have to chalk one up in the "L" column at this point.
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Have you tried to flash from the SD card?
Hi Captain_Throwback,
Try copying Raph Radio 1.11.25.01 to the root of a FAT32 SD Card ... you'll need to rename the .NBH to RAPHIMG.NBH.
Pull the SIM out of the phone and power it back on as per usual; I've noticed that the phone "blacks out" for a bit but then switches to flash mode.
Good luck.
PS: suggest getting the large carry-on with the wheels for the guilt trip - heaven knows it's come in handy for me
That's a bummer, man. You gotta at least 'fess up part of the story to prevent someone else from falling into the same trap (however unlikely that may be). And maybe, just maybe, it will help someone else figure out how to fix your problem.
What radio did you try and flash.
Hopefully it wasn't the new Rhodium radio? Or a Rose radio?
I have done this a few times on my tilt, all I did was put it into the boot loader, it worked from hard reset screen as well, and flashed the rom via activesync. I am assuming that you are not able to get a sync, or have you tried yet? I know my fize will also sync [to flash] from bootloadr.
Captain_Throwback said:
The problem: I flashed a radio to my device that is (obviously) incompatible with my device (if you really want the details, its embarassing, but I'll post if necessary). My phone freezes on bootup, and never initializes the Radio/ROM (and for good reason).
This is what happens now: If my phone is off, I can turn it on, but I only get the first boot up screen, and the red numbers in the bottom right-hand corner never appear. At that point, I cannot turn off my phone without taking out the battery. If I take out the battery and put it back in, and attach the phone to a charger (or USB cable), the light on the phone will "breathe", as if its charging. However, if I then disconnect the phone, the light will CONTINUE breathing.
I also cannot turn on the phone while its connected to either the charger or USB cable.
My phone is Hard-SPL'ed and Security Unlocked. But the real issue I'm having is that I can't get into Bootloader to flash something else. Apparently, I've corrupted the Bootloader. When I turn the phone on, and press the reset button while holding Vol-down, the phone just goes black.
I might be okay getting a warranty exchange if not for this: I can still hard reset my phone. It doesn't make any sense to me, but when I turn it on, I can do the soft-reset-button, Vol-down, Action button combo, and my phone flashes through Bootloader to give the the hard reset menu. It flashes that screen just long enough to see that my phone has 1.90Olinex as the SPL. So, I think I may be screwed, unless someone here can help.
My wife is very . . . upset . . . about this, and is worried that we'll have to spend money because of my continuous "tinkering" with my phone.
Any help anyone can offer is greatly appreciated.
I know this is my own stupid fault, and I should've known better, but it would be nice to get confirmation from the experts here that I'm just going to have to chalk one up in the "L" column at this point.
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Damn I'm sorry to hear about your issue and i feel for ya because I did some stupid **** myself a lil' while back if you remember. Your advice to reflash the oem rom worked for me 100%. Have you tried hard resetting and then trying to get into bootloader mode?
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What radio did you try and flash.
Hopefully it wasn't the new Rhodium radio? Or a Rose radio?
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Ok, I'll tell you . . . it wasn't a Rose radio (I know P1Tater bricked his phone that way) . . . but I figured, the Rhodium, its got the same hardware, right? I mean, T-Mobile is a GSM carrier . . . If I patch it for Raph, it may work . . . even though the radio number is so much different . . . I should still be able to get into Bootloader if it doesn't work, because I'm HardSPL'ed . . .
But no. I can't get into Bootloader. Believe me, I've tried. Every time I try, the phone just goes black. And I have a nice stock AT&T ROM on my Storage Card ready to flash, if only I could get it onto the phone.
I tried plugging into the computer, but it won't recognize the phone at all.
I wish it was REALLY bricked, but the fact that I can still hard reset it is very disappointing.
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Ok, I'll tell you . . . it wasn't a Rose radio (I know P1Tater bricked his phone that way) . . . but I figured, the Rhodium, its got the same hardware, right? I mean, T-Mobile is a GSM carrier . . . If I patch it for Raph, it may work . . . even though the radio number is so much different . . . I should still be able to get into Bootloader if it doesn't work, because I'm HardSPL'ed . . .
But no. I can't get into Bootloader. Believe me, I've tried. Every time I try, the phone just goes black. And I have a nice stock AT&T ROM on my Storage Card ready to flash, if only I could get it onto the phone.
I tried plugging into the computer, but it won't recognize the phone at all.
I wish it was REALLY bricked, but the fact that I can still hard reset it is very disappointing.
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This happened to me (sort of.) I flashed a diamond radio to my fuze... without security unlocking it first. Symptom wise, Exact same thing happened. I was able to (after days of tinkering) get it into bootloader from the hard reset screen. I just kept pressing the Hard rest sequence over and over while connected to USB. I noticed, one time, I got the USB at the bottom. Don't know how, don't know why, it just happened, I was then able to flash the Stock Cing ROM. Wierd stuff, But lucky. Hope you get it back on board. Is it insured? Because it would really suck if someone stole your bricked fuze.
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This happened to me (sort of.) I flashed a diamond radio to my fuze... without security unlocking it first. Symptom wise, Exact same thing happened. I was able to (after days of tinkering) get it into bootloader from the hard reset screen. I just kept pressing the Hard rest sequence over and over while connected to USB. I noticed, one time, I got the USB at the bottom. Don't know how, don't know why, it just happened, I was then able to flash the Stock Cing ROM. Wierd stuff, But lucky. Hope you get it back on board. Is it insured? Because it would really suck if someone stole your bricked fuze.
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It is insured, and paying $125 is better than having to buy a brand new phone, but if I can avoid spending money, my wife would be much happier .
I can hard reset just fine . . . if only the phone would stay on the bootloader screen when doing that . . . but it doesn't. I assume the bootloader has been corrupted, which is why the phone blacks out when trying to enter bootloader mode. I'll keep trying, I guess. I can't make it any worse. Actually, if I could, I'd be better off, so that way they can't find out my phone is Hard-SPL'ed.
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I can hard reset just fine . . . if only the phone would stay on the bootloader screen when doing that . . . but it doesn't. I assume the bootloader has been corrupted, which is why the phone blacks out when trying to enter bootloader mode. I'll keep trying, I guess. I can't make it any worse. Actually, if I could, I'd be better off, so that way they can't find out my phone is Hard-SPL'ed.
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Try plugging it into a car battery, or something like that, and fry the sucker. That's my only piece of advice.
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I can't make it any worse. Actually, if I could, I'd be better off, so that way they can't find out my phone is Hard-SPL'ed.
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You could make it worse if you get the white sticker wet and make it turn pink, but that would be very bad for you.
You are at the point to where you cant move beyond your current predicament in wither way. Im afraid I see no other alternative than to pay the $125.
Maybe you could sell your Fuze on Ebay for 125 to cover your insurance cost and you could make a notation on the Ebay site saying something like 'PARTIALLY USED FUZE' like that Carfax commercial does.
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My phone is still bricked, but I'm taking it to a repair shop after work, where I'll find out whether I'll be getting a free warranty replacement, or paying $125 for an insurance replacement. At least I've been able to successfully determine that a Rhodium radio cannot be flashed to a Raphael. So no one else has to try it .
Keep us updated dude. Also, if you slip the guy $50 he may do the free warranty replacement for you... it might save you $75 and you wont have to use up one of your insurance claims.
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My phone is still bricked, but I'm taking it to a repair shop after work, where I'll find out whether I'll be getting a free warranty replacement, or paying $125 for an insurance replacement. At least I've been able to successfully determine that a Rhodium radio cannot be flashed to a Raphael. So no one else has to try it .
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Crap, sorry to hear that. HAAH, just walk into the ATT store and say," I tried turning the phone on and this is what happened." And that you have never heard of XDA forums, roms, and though a radio was only for people in trucks or that wear camo.
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Crap, sorry to hear that. HAAH, just walk into the ATT store and say," I tried turning the phone on and this is what happened." And that you have never heard of XDA forums, roms, and though a radio was only for people in trucks or that wear camo.
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That might work, if I hadn't bought the phone from my best friend, who just happens to manage an AT&T store. He actually knows that I had a custom ROM on my phone, and called ahead to the repair shop to let them know I was coming, and he said hopefully they won't notice the SPL in my bootloader if they try and hard reset it. So it is possible they'll just give the phone a cursory look to make sure its really not working, and then go ahead with a warranty replacement. I'll be sure to let everyone know what happens. In the meantime, the word of the day is "dumbass", LOL.
Farmer Ted said:
Try plugging it into a car battery, or something like that, and fry the sucker. That's my only piece of advice.
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That's what I would do.
Captain_Throwback said:
My phone is still bricked, but I'm taking it to a repair shop after work, where I'll find out whether I'll be getting a free warranty replacement, or paying $125 for an insurance replacement. At least I've been able to successfully determine that a Rhodium radio cannot be flashed to a Raphael. So no one else has to try it .
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Honestly I would not take it to the repair shop.
Here is what I would do. Call the warranty replacement department at AT&T. 1-800-801-1101. Tell them that you woke up and now your phone won't turn on. Once you go through all the steps they have to do to fix it, then they will ship you a replacement Fuze right away. The refurbished Fuze will have everything except for a battery and a back cover. Typically when I did this I received a new one the next day that I called.
Now take your battery out of your phone and your SIM card and microSD card. Put your phone in the microwave for 2 seconds. Walla. Now it's bricked and AT&T will have no way to tell if you have HardSPL or a cooked ROM on your phone. Trust me. It will work.
When you get your new phone just send the phone back in packing material that they provide to you and you won't have to spend any money to get a new phone or spend money to fix a phone.
Just do what I told you about. I promise it will work. Just trust me. I've done it before and it worked like a charm. No worries. Trust me, I'm not trying to lead you down the wrong path. I'm trying to get you a replacement just like I got when I bricked my last fuze trying out different radios. And use the phone number that AllTheWay posted just above me once you do what I told you.
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Just do what I told you about. I promise it will work. Just trust me. I've done it before and it worked like a charm. No worries. Trust me, I'm not trying to lead you down the wrong path. I'm trying to get you a replacement just like I got when I bricked my last fuze trying out different radios. And use the phone number that AllTheWay posted just above me once you do what I told you.
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I'm curious what it is you told him, in case i'm in a similar position at any point !!
Lemme kno please here or PM is cool!
Thx
JFlitt
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That's what I would do.
Honestly I would not take it to the repair shop.
Here is what I would do. Call the warranty replacement department at AT&T. 1-800-801-1101. Tell them that you woke up and now your phone won't turn on. Once you go through all the steps they have to do to fix it, then they will ship you a replacement Fuze right away. The refurbished Fuze will have everything except for a battery and a back cover. Typically when I did this I received a new one the next day that I called.
Now take your battery out of your phone and your SIM card and microSD card. Put your phone in the microwave for 2 seconds. Walla. Now it's bricked and AT&T will have no way to tell if you have HardSPL or a cooked ROM on your phone. Trust me. It will work.
When you get your new phone just send the phone back in packing material that they provide to you and you won't have to spend any money to get a new phone or spend money to fix a phone.
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Agree with this. If your friend works at the store and knows what you have done, I wouldnt go there. Call the number, fry the damn phone and get a new one. We need you back on your feet to help solve ROM issues my friend.
Hi!
Sorry for asking again - i had another thread about this subject before thinking this solution to my problem, I think the situation and the question is different, so that0s why I thought, opening a new thread was correct
What happened is that I was enjoying my SGSII with CM 10 and one day it just shut down
I only could enter download mode: When flashing with Odin, Odin would hung and the flashing process never would start.
Finally I tried to flash official 4.0.4 with the repartition option checked.
No download mode no more either....
Needless to say, I got a brick.
Now: Samsung refuses to repair it with the warranty and some online shop says they can repair just the memory module and not all the motherboard: I don't know if the motherboard was broken either.....
The thing is that I wish I knew if the MoBo was the problem before sending the device over to the online shop and getting it back not repaired again... having to pay for the delivery... perhaps for samsung it's easier to just replace all the inside instead of only one compound.... I don't know that....
How can I know if the problem is not the whole motherboard?
Thanks
GFXi0N said:
Hi!
Sorry for asking again - i had another thread about this subject before thinking this solution to my problem, I think the situation and the question is different, so that0s why I thought, opening a new thread was correct
What happened is that I was enjoying my SGSII with CM 10 and one day it just shut down
I only could enter download mode: When flashing with Odin, Odin would hung and the flashing process never would start.
Finally I tried to flash official 4.0.4 with the repartition option checked.
No download mode no more either....
Needless to say, I got a brick.
Now: Samsung refuses to repair it with the warranty and some online shop says they can repair just the memory module and not all the motherboard: I don't know if the motherboard was broken either.....
The thing is that I wish I knew if the MoBo was the problem before sending the device over to the online shop and getting it back not repaired again... having to pay for the delivery... perhaps for samsung it's easier to just replace all the inside instead of only one compound.... I don't know that....
How can I know if the problem is not the whole motherboard?
Thanks
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I had the same problem not caused by cm but just trying to ged rid of jellybean, no boot, no download, no recovery and not charging anymore
i tought i was screwed by odin because this caused the problem ( also ticked repartition ) brought it to a shop that actually repairs damaged screens and after a couple of days got my phone back with still everything on there wat was on my phone before i bricked it.
Had to pay € 45,- so to me next to nothing compared to bying a new phone.
Well, that's a relieve... I mean, if the Motherboard were broken, I wouldn't even get to download mode... it clearly looked like the fash memory failed.... I hope this guys are right and I can get my phone back..
I need to say Samsungś service sucks!!!! Despite of not being covered by warranty, they had my phone, and i quote "LOST" for almost two months....
I'll update as I get the phone repaired....
Thats why it diddent even cross my mind tpo bring it to a samsung service center, it probally takes a lot longer to get the job done and they would for sure replace the mobo and then say it was broken because i flashed it with a custom firmware, like that wil break the device, morons
So to make sure it was done fast and the proper way i took it to flexiphone and sved my selfe the trouble of getting a lot of bull**** an probally a
high amount of money to pay (because of a warranty void) for a repair that never needed to be done in the first place.
Hope your device has the same problem cause i was depressed missing my righthand, but went home with a smile from ear to ear.
OK, got the phone back, took it to a shop and they say it's not responding to JTAG.....
They will try something else, but it does not look well....
if it's not jtagable then mobo replacement is your only chance to see the little guy booting again.
Sent from the little guy
Ok, I've got a bricked MoBo....
How much would it be to get a new one? I guess it won't be less than 200 euro.... or perhaps new phone directly...
I guess It's goodbye..... farewell, SGSII.... :crying:
Mobo is about 150 - 200.
Sent from the little guy
GFXi0N said:
Ok, I've got a bricked MoBo....
How much would it be to get a new one? I guess it won't be less than 200 euro.... or perhaps new phone directly...
I guess It's goodbye..... farewell, SGSII.... :crying:
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Orange were selling S2 for about 240 €(or whatever equates to £200) 3 months ago.
Id sell your phone on ebay as you should get at least £100 clear, then that means you could get a brand new phone with warranty for £100 difference, or maybe a good bit less.
Nexus 4 it is!!!
Hello all,
My first post here and I cant really think of a better place where I might get help beyond the endless trawling through the internets. I have already done. My hair is going even more grey!
I have a problem that I just cant work out.. I have already spent far too many hours trying to find ways to fix. So its best I ask here and maybe someone will know how to fix it.
I have a Note 2. Owned it since new and its been fantastic, does everything I need out of a phone and I want to keep it working. I have no interest in buying a new phone ( nor that I can afford it! )
About 6 weeks ago it died after I had let the battery run flat over night. It just would not turn on. I tried all the internet fixes and nothing worked. Sudden death syndrome I think its called. Fairly common with these I have learned.
I bought a new motherboard from China on Aliexpress. Good feedback from seller. $35. It arrived two weeks ago. I swapped the motherboards and the new one worked. I had to change the phone over to English and re-load my favourite apps, exciting.. just like getting a new phone again
It worked well enough and I was happy. I noted that in the about section, plus in the apps draw, SUPERSU. I looked this up and figured that maybe the main chip had been rooted. Possibly that the motherboard was atually a fixed secondhand one, possibly they use another chipset that needs rooting to work? I don't know but it worked so I left it.
One thing that did annoy me was that when I connected my phone via USB to the laptop (a Samsung) the photo thumbnails would not show up like they used to. I looked this up and it was common. I suggested fix was to look for phone updates on Kies.
Then about 4 days ago I decided to install Samsung Kies onto my computer and update the phone. It said there were updates to install and I clicked go.
I went through the process and it all looked good until when the update process said it had finished. Then the phone just started to flash the Samsung symbol on and off, spaced every two seconds. Bugger!
So I tried a recovery mode on kies, that did not work. I tried booting into recovery (all three keys, volume up) and it does nothing at all. Samsung just keeps flashing on and off. I have tried everything!
However- it will boot into download mode so I have tried reloading the correct Samsung firmware back on with Odin three, several times! Everytime when it re-boots it just flashes. Cant get into recovery.
This is now where I am at. I want to know how to get into recovery via my PC. Maybe through some program. But I don't know how. I'll happily load on a new ROM but not sure which and most seem to need me to be able to change some settings within the phone first...which I cant obviously do. I have looked into Omegadroid and Lineage which both appeal. But there seems to be no way I can load them on from where I am at with this phone.
I am hoping that there some sort of program I can use to 'hard re-set' or wipe the phone completely start again?
Any help and suggestions very welcome. I am not at all adept at programming so keep it all in laymans terms (I have already learned so much in the last few days that my brain might well explode!)
Thank you in advance,
Alex
yoeddynz said:
I bought a new motherboard from China on Aliexpress. Good feedback from seller. $35. It arrived two weeks ago. I swapped the motherboards and the new one worked. I had to change the phone over to English and re-load my favourite apps, exciting.. just like getting a new phone again
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Hi Alex, Welcome to XDA-Developers!
It sounds like your Note needs a full wipe indeed. But first, I wouldn't have used AliExpress if I were you! These Chinese shops cannot be trusted when it comes to spare parts.
It worked well enough and I was happy. I noted that in the about section, plus in the apps draw, SUPERSU. I looked this up and figured that maybe the main chip had been rooted. Possibly that the motherboard was atually a fixed secondhand one, possibly they use another chipset that needs rooting to work? I don't know but it worked so I left it.
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It's very possible that the mother was a second hand one. So, so it might have been rooted by the last owner.
However- it will boot into download mode so I have tried reloading the correct Samsung firmware back on with Odin three, several times! Everytime when it re-boots it just flashes. Cant get into recovery.
I am hoping that there some sort of program I can use to 'hard re-set' or wipe the phone completely start again?
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Actually, this is what Odin software really does. If it fails, I'm afraid you'll have to take it to a repair shop again. Or maybe you can try another firmware. If you can remember the build number that was in "About" section before you flash it with Odin, then we could figure out what you were using in the first place. Perhaps by installing the firmware of that build number, you'll get it to boot.
And oh! The correct recovery mode combination is "HOME + Volume Up + Power Button". You mentioned "All three buttons + Volume Up" (4 buttons ?!), I assume then that you meant "HOME + Volume Down + Power + Volume UP"
Hey thanks for the reply- sorry for the late reply back..
When I plugged it into Kies I had no intention to do anything other than a usual Samsung update so I didnt look up the build number or any other info beforehand.
Well..that is one leasson learned!
Yeah- it was a typo when I said what keys I pressed. In order to try and get into the recovery mode I did indeed press 'home, power and volume up'. But nothing ever happens... the Samsung symbol just keeps on flashing away...mocking me
Is there any other program out there that I could try? I downloaded a program called Z3X Samsung tool. Used for flashing I believe? It installed fine but when activated, with the phone connected in download mode all I got was a prompt saying 'Cant find chip'
yoeddynz said:
Hey thanks for the reply- sorry for the late reply back..
When I plugged it into Kies I had no intention to do anything other than a usual Samsung update so I didnt look up the build number or any other info beforehand.
Well..that is one leasson learned!
Yeah- it was a typo when I said what keys I pressed. In order to try and get into the recovery mode I did indeed press 'home, power and volume up'. But nothing ever happens... the Samsung symbol just keeps on flashing away...mocking me
Is there any other program out there that I could try? I downloaded a program called Z3X Samsung tool. Used for flashing I believe? It installed fine but when activated, with the phone connected in download mode all I got was a prompt saying 'Cant find chip'
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Hi,
I don't think there is any other tool you can use besides ODIN. The Z3X Software appears to require a flashing hardware (the box). In order to be able to flash your device using this tool, you'll need that box first. So, your best shot right now is to take the phone to a repair center. They often have device flashing hardwares (like the Z3X box) which provide convenient results but ultimately costs few bucks (compared to ODIN which is free if it works for you).
One last explanation to what your device is experiencing is that the motherboard is somewhat not working again. I really don't like this one either, but you can't ignore it. If you had bought it from a local shop or repair center, perhaps they could have assisted you in the current situation or maybe they could have even replaced it with another one.
I hope you'll find a way to revive your Note 2. There isn't much I can suggest anymore right now, as I have moved away from Samsung since 2014 (I owned the Note 2 aswell! Great device at that time).
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I hope you'll find a way to revive your Note 2. There isn't much I can suggest anymore right now, as I have moved away from Samsung since 2014 (I owned the Note 2 aswell! Great device at that time).
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Yeah thanks. I'll try the repair centre in the city next time I visit the big smoke. The phone certainly worked well for me but if its indeed dead, again, all is not lost because things have moved on and its bloody amazing what phones one can get now for half what I paid when I bought the Note 2.
If I get it fixed I'll certainly post up a reply with details just to help add to the info on this thread that might help other Note 2/Samsung owners in a similar way.
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Yeah thanks. I'll try the repair centre in the city next time I visit the big smoke. The phone certainly worked well for me but if its indeed dead, again, all is not lost because things have moved on and its bloody amazing what phones one can get now for half what I paid when I bought the Note 2.
If I get it fixed I'll certainly post up a reply with details just to help add to the info on this thread that might help other Note 2/Samsung owners in a similar way.
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Exactly!
That's the whole spirit of XDA.
Thank you for understanding and good luck. :fingers-crossed:
Ok people of XDA. Here's and update. So I had no luck getting my Note 2 working again. I then bought a brand new Note 4 to see me through and that turned out to be a load of grief too....(Note 4 not liking the Marshmallow update and constantly freezing or rebooting, often every few minutes) oh my. When will the hurting stop?.... but that's another story kids
Anyway- while the Note 4 was out of action I decided I'd better sort the Note 2 out. I ordered another mother board from Aliexpress but before ordering I went through the available board listings, sent the same question off to each seller asking about any potential issues similar to what I have experienced with my current board and waited for replies. The seller that answered with the best reply that gave me some confidence got the sale. Another $35 NZD and this time it actually arrived after about 8 days from ordering.
I fitted the new board and as soon as the phone turned on, changed the language to English and promptly turned auto updates off- just in case.
Its been running perfectly ever since with no problems at all. After the fiasco I have now been having with my Note 4 (which has now been replaced thank fark) using the old Note 2 feels somewhat like jumping from a modern car with all the bells and whistles but too much to go wrong, into a nice old classic that is simplicity itself.
So now I'm off to look for answers on why the hell my Note 4 constantly wants me to download another update just after I have installed the last one.............
Alex