Hi All,
in need a bit of help here, am planning on getting a new S3 I9300 tomorrow, as i currently own
a galaxy note N7000 and a bit of a flashaholic.
1st thing i'll be doing is rooting which seems quite straightforward. Now when it comes to flashing roms on the GN1
i flash a kernel (which includes recovery), but with the S3 im a bit un-sure, from what ive read you have to flash seperatly
am i right?
I also like to switch between touchwizz and cm/aosp, (currently using HellyBean 4.3 rom) on the note.
Currently on the note if i want a cm rom i flash a cm kernel (do the wipes) and flash the rom. If i want a touchwizz rom
i flash Philz kernel (do the wipes) and flash the rom.
On the S3 does it matter which kernel/recovery i use to flash either or does it have to be specific to the rom im going to flash?
Been reading a lot on here but most roms say be on a working CWM recovery but not sure which.
cheers in advance
Basics read first its all here .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344125
Critical you read the first two posts really really critical regarding EFS .
Preference for Philz recovery .
JJEgan said:
Basics read first its all here .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344125
Critical you read the first two posts really really critical regarding EFS .
Preference for Philz recovery .
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Yeah, cheers mate i've already read that and its the 1st thing i did on my GN1, its just im a bit confused about
which kernel & recovery its safe to flash cm on and which i can use to flash touchwizz. Nowhere makes it clear
Like i said earlier i used Philz kernel/recovery for touchwizz on my note and cm kernel/recovery for aosp roms.
But here it seems you have seperate. So basically can i use philz recovery to flash either cm or touchwizz?
cheers
jock11 said:
Yeah, cheers mate i've already read that and its the 1st thing i did on my GN1, its just im a bit confused about
which kernel & recovery its safe to flash cm on and which i can use to flash touchwizz. Nowhere makes it clear
Like i said earlier i used Philz kernel/recovery for touchwizz on my note and cm kernel/recovery for aosp roms.
But here it seems you have seperate. So basically can i use philz recovery to flash either cm or touchwizz?
cheers
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Yes u can use philz recovery if u want to flash any custom rom including cm too
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danierakes said:
Yes u can use philz recovery if u want to flash any custom rom including cm too
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Thanks for that. I think ive just got my head around this, the kernel wont really matter cos the new rom will flash its own kernel, am i correct?
jock11 said:
Thanks for that. I think ive just got my head around this, the kernel wont really matter cos the new rom will flash its own kernel, am i correct?
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Unlike older galaxy / note devices, the s3 has a recovery partition, similar to other android phones. The s2 and note did not, so recovery had to be built in to the kernel.
Every rom comes with a kernel (can't work without one). Its completely independent of recovery. You can use whatever recovery or kernel you like without impacting the other. This is all covered in the "understanding the basics before rooting" thread linked earlier
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I just successfully rooted my phone using the DooMLoRD method. I wan't to use a Jellybean custom rom(probably aokp). What kernel do I need? I have a Galaxy S2 with version 2.3.4 and gingerbread.uckh7.
You need one with cwm baked in. It's that simple. The rom you select will flash the recommended kernel
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aknbad23 said:
I just successfully rooted my phone using the DooMLoRD method. I wan't to use a Jellybean custom rom(probably aokp). What kernel do I need? I have a Galaxy S2 with version 2.3.4 and gingerbread.uckh7.
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All roms will automatically flash an appropriate kernel.
dsmboost said:
All roms will automatically flash an appropriate kernel.
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Ok, but don't I need to backup my phone(contacts,apps,etc) with CWM recovery before I put a ROM on it? That would mean I need a CWM kernel right?
aknbad23 said:
Ok, but don't I need to backup my phone(contacts,apps,etc) with CWM recovery before I put a ROM on it?
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These are really basic and common questions that you are asking and can be easily found by searching. I'm just giving you a fair warning, because you will be flamed by others for not searching.
Creating backups via CWM is not a requirement to flash anything. It is highly recommended that you do create backups though (especially if you're new to this), in case something goes wrong while flashing stuff.
dsmboost said:
These are really basic and common questions that you are asking and can be easily found by searching. I'm just giving you a fair warning, because you will be flamed by others for not searching.
Creating backups via CWM is not a requirement to flash anything. It is highly recommended that you do create backups though (especially if you're new to this), in case something goes wrong while flashing stuff.
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Thanks.
And with that, i will close this here, and advise further searching in the future (if you are willing to do something that can hose your phone, please take 10 minutes, and read the basic guides on what to do... it will be a life saver..)
I have flashed paranoidandroid 3.15 on my galaxy s3 a couple weeks ago, aside the occasional screen that win't turn on I haven't had any problem, but I set my mind on flashing a new kernel in order to be able to change thez governor. I tried to flash air kernel on, I did exactly what I was told: Boot into recovery, clear cache/delvik, installed kernel from sd card, and rebooted. But after the phone being rebooted, I still had the stock kernel.
My question is, why did this happen, and how do I fix it?
All help is appreciated
what recovery? link to the kernel?
Glebun said:
what recovery? link to the kernel?
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I'm running TWRP ( Team Win Recovery Project)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842 link to the kernel, although if you know any kernels that work better/ more appropriate for ParanoidAndroid, I am more than open to suggestions
vonniel said:
I'm running TWRP ( Team Win Recovery Project)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842 link to the kernel, although if you know any kernels that work better/ more appropriate for ParanoidAndroid, I am more than open to suggestions
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Kernel is for nexus s not galaxy s3
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wow, you're lucky the updater-script saved your phone. Flashing wrong firmware will kill it
Glenbun. Only mismatched, corrupted, or missing boot loaders can kill a phone.
yeah-yeah, but we should scare the noobs away from flashing the wrong firmware that potentially includes a bootloader
Glebun said:
yeah-yeah, but we should scare the noobs away from flashing the wrong firmware that potentially includes a bootloader
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Glebun u have a point, even other incompatible components of recovery zip packages can brick the phone.
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Glebun said:
wow, you're lucky the updater-script saved your phone. Flashing wrong firmware will kill it
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Wow, I feel so dumb ^^' I'll be more careful next time around.
What kernel would you recommend for me?
I recommed stock mb5 or speedmod k2-12 kernels for you
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I recommed stock mb5 or speedmod k2-12 kernels for you
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Well, I don't really know either of them, I don't mind stock, but I want to change things, sometimes it just isn't up for the task, or uses up battery when I would rather it didn't, without even knowing what they do, and looking around, I found the perseus kernel, I would like some opinions on the kernel, I would be very grateful if you told me if it fits me, if it's compatible with ParanoidAndroid, and finally if you have a better suggestion for a kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691401
read the first post of the thread to find out if it's compatible with your ROM.
and try it to see if it suits you
If I'm running TWRP can I still download kernels that say they are meant for CWM?
yes
first, if i rooted my i9300 with cf auto root, can i still add cwm to my phone afterwards? second, where is the latest version of cwm for the i9300, because when i search i keep getting the verizon one? third, what is the difference between cwm touch, cwm recovery and others...?
Flash via odin or mobile odin.
Cwm is in the dev section but recommend you try philz instead. Based on cwm but better
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rootSU said:
Flash via odin or mobile odin.
Cwm is in the dev section but recommend you try philz instead. Based on cwm but better
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can i use philz to flash criskelo rom v19? and what makes it better than cwm?
stevae said:
can i use philz to flash criskelo rom v19? and what makes it better than cwm?
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Philz is a recovery so it can be used to flash any flashable zip files, just like CWM can.
What makes it better? Better touch responsiveness, more options, better support directly from developer.
Link in my signature,.
Problem with CWM is anyone can compile it and release it which can lead to inconsistancies
rootSU said:
Philz is a recovery so it can be used to flash any flashable zip files, just like CWM can.
What makes it better? Better touch responsiveness, more options, better support directly from developer.
Link in my signature,.
Problem with CWM is anyone can compile it and release it which can lead to inconsistancies
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i'm a bit new at this, and the philz page looks extremely confusing. i don't know why they put so much crap on one page, instead of organizing it into different sections? if you are not a programmer it looks like a lot of scribbling to us. so how do i know EXACTLY where the dl link is for my i9300 international? My biggest concern is always getting the wrong version and bricking my phone. so especially with something new to me, i want to be extra careful.
The link from my signature:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002953
Downloads are in post 2. There are only 2 downloads. i9300 and i9305. Its not really that difficult to get the right one.
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
:angel:
start by reading rootSU's guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743
root
eatsleep said:
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
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hallo im also new to rooting but flashed cm10.1 yesterday with root and can share what i did.
i also got i9300 nordic version of the s3. and downloaded some files
odin 3.07
cfroot 3.64
cm10.1
gapps from 03-2013
i resettet my phone and enabled USB debugging and put the phone in download mode and startet up odin and made sure its connected and loaded cfroot.tar and flashed and the phone rebootet itself and installed the ness. apps for rooting. then i bootet up in recovery manager and went to install from sdcard and installed cm10.1 and then gapps and then did factory reset and dalvik wipe and rebootet and it bootet up CM10.1 and deleted /0 folder on the phone which was empty folder from previous touchwiz samsung rom
and yes there are risks but i did this 2 times. tw to cm10 and then back again but everything went problem free. so the risk ppl are talking about is mostly likely cuz some broke and if u mess up it breaks. so it can happen.
q1; when u flash cfroot the bootloader changed and it changes counter from 0 to 1.
q2: when u flash stock back with odin it flashes rom and bootloader/recovery but counter is the same but can be fixed easily. ( did it myself between my 2 flashes so when i flashed back to CM10 it still was on 1
q3: i think its everything thats risky. dont think root and rom flashing are more risky than others
q4: dont know what u mean exactly. i didnt mess with kernals. CM10.1 has a good one i think.
q5: dont either
q6: i dont have any yelly triagle on my cfroot+cm10.1. theres a lille read thing in the left corner like 2mm long that shows u got flashed.
hope it helps.
q6 = Triangle Away https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
TimGrundy2012 said:
q6 = Triangle Away https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
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Unless you have 4.1.1 + bootloader.
mikep99 said:
start by reading rootSU's guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743
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Useful info, read it all but still answers are not obtained
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
eatsleep said:
Useful info, read it all but still answers are not obtained
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
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For kernels that support both go here or here. At the moment Siyah or Goggy Max are the people's choices I assume.
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Any flashing involves risk from almost no risk to a much bigger risk for those that dont read the basics and follow instructions .
Root voids warranty .
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
yes and yes .
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
NO read the basic faqs and guides all stickied .
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
YES
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
IT is inside the rom .
I suggest you bother to read the faqs and guides or join the help i bricked my phone club .
jje
eatsleep said:
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
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1. You can flash boooader separately or when you flash stock roms. (I can be wrong but this is what I know)
2. I never done that but yes for first two, not sure about flash counter, you may still have to clear them with TA first.
3. As above answer, it's always risky to do stuff without proper knowledge and no guarantees even after proper knowledge but mostly no.
4. Yes.
5. Kernels are essential part of your phone and they are compatible with your os version only and also ur phone model. So if a kernel is for s3 4.2.2, you can't flash it over to amy other model or os version. Yes for second part.
6. No. Triangle away may remove your flashing counter but as long as you have custom anything and your rom status is modified that triangle will be there.
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chrismast said:
For kernels that support both go here or here. At the moment Siyah or Goggy Max are the people's choices I assume.
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look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
eatsleep said:
look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
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Siyah supports both cm and stock. Yes, you cam flash cm over stock or siyah kernel.
You have to flash your kernel again after every rom flash.
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eatsleep said:
look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
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As long as the rom comes with a kernel, which is the normal base, you have to flash the kernel again. Usually you can do this direct from recovery before the full reboot.
As long as the kernel supports your rom type (see each kernel's thread for it), you should be fine as long as you follow the instructions.
chrismast said:
As long as the rom comes with a kernel, which is the normal base, you have to flash the kernel again. Usually you can do this direct from recovery before the full reboot.
As long as the kernel supports your rom type (see each kernel's thread for it), you should be fine as long as you follow the instructions.
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Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
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bootloader no clue, I never touched it, too dangerous to mess up stuff.
for flashing googy, usually you do it in CWM or via Odin. Check out the thread and read the instructions. Syiah's thread also got a huge amount of guides in the first couple of posts and they should be valid somehow for Googy as well as it is based on Siyah.
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
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Please do not start messing with bootloaders .
Logic says read the instructions for the kernel you want to flash .
Its a CWM file and flashed via recovery .
You really should bother yourself to read the basic faqs and guide .
jje
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
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The bootloader isn't modified. The bootloader *shows* modified by reading other data.
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I want to flash the Googy Max 175 Kernel but I'm a bit uncertain because of my current installation. I have Liquid Smooth JB 4.3 and 3.0.64 CM kernel and CyanogenMod touch recovery. I like my touch-recovery.
Do I simply flash the Googy with Odin? I guess that will destroy my CyanogenMod recovery?
Can I use Odin to backup my existing Kernel?
My CM kernel doesn't give me access to overclocking so this is the main reason for wanting to flash Googy.
i9300 Galaxy S3.
grammatonfeather said:
I want to flash the Googy Max 175 Kernel but I'm a bit uncertain because of my current installation. I have Liquid Smooth JB 4.3 and 3.0.64 CM kernel and CyanogenMod touch recovery. I like my touch-recovery.
Do I simply flash the Googy with Odin? I guess that will destroy my CyanogenMod recovery?
Can I use Odin to backup my existing Kernel?
My CM kernel doesn't give me access to overclocking so this is the main reason for wanting to flash Googy.
i9300 Galaxy S3.
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You don't need to backup your old kernel. In addition googy is only a kernel and not a recovery, hence you will keep yours.
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chrismast said:
You don't need to backup your old kernel. In addition googy is only a kernel and not a recovery, hence you will keep yours.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)
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Thanks. So I just flash it with Odin using the PDA button and the same tick-boxes I used when I originally rooted phone?
Would be nice if there was an app that could flash it via the phone.
You need to read the basic faqs and guides before flashing not after you have bricked your phone .
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You need to read the basic faqs and guides before flashing not after you have bricked your phone .
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And therein lies the problem. How to find clear and concise facts for specific tasks without having to travel many hours across the internet piecing together fragments of information.
I've already learned quite a bit over 2 weeks, rooting, backing up rom, recovery but guides are generally fragmented and information all over the place.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344125
It is all posted for you to read .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344125
It is all posted for you to read .
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Thanks. Useful guides there including a breakdown of the memory space.
There's one section where they say that all roms come with kernel so if you want a specific kernel you need to flash it again after you install the rom. I get that and that's the position I'm at. I have Liquid Smooth and I want to flash a kernel that allows overclock. Which also begs the question... If ALL ROMS come with Kernel... why doesn't the Liquid Smooth have Kernel that allows overclock? Liquid Smooth has the Performance section showing clocks and cpu modes but I can't change the actual cpu speeds. They stay on automatic. Can't adjust the sliders.
So for a noob this is where confusion sets in....
If all custom roms include Kernel... why doesn't a rom with overclocking come with overclocking kernel?
I need a Siyah kernel or variant to overclock so why doesn't Liquid Smooth have that Kernel?
I have a Googy175 kernel CWM.zip .... There is no guide that explains how to install it. I read that zip files must be installed via clockworkmod recovery... well I can do that if I know that this googy can be installed via recovery...
I read that Odin only works with tar files and googy isn't a tar.
Noob questions and as great as the guide is for general understanding of it all... it doesn't answer my specific questions.
If ALL ROMS come with Kernel... why doesn't the Liquid Smooth have Kernel that allows overclock
Why should it its up to the dev what they build you would need to ask the dev why .
Devs build as they want to build a rom and options may be included in an installer or to be flashed after its users choice .
I have a Googy175 kernel CWM.zip .... There is no guide that explains how to install it
Basics flash via recovery the same as any CWM zip as per the faqs and guides
Usually there are installation instructions in every kernel guide on how to install them and what to take care of.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)
Thanks for replies. It's clear now.
I have read a lot of the guides though but it was just that specific info on how to flash a different kernel I couldn't seem to locate.
A lot of other useful info for noobs in the links though.