I just got off an approximate 90 minute call regarding my "glitch" order over the weekend. It was very frustrating, but if you read to the end, you will pick up some tips and get the happy ending we all look for in life.
Prior to the call I had two orders. The first was on September 6th. It was not attached to any phone line and was put in as a special order as an accessory.
The second order was from the 29th during the "glitch" time. It was on my main line and got the subsidized price and kept unlimited data with a confirmation email.
My goals were simple: have a verbal and written confirmation to retain my unlimited data if the second contract was going to be honored and cancel one of the orders as I don't need two Note 3s.
So I call up and get the front line tech support guy. I explain the above and then he takes the second order's confirmation number and whatnot. He punches it up and he says the system is currently showing that as soon as I activate the phone, I will go to the default 2GB/month data plan. I asked him how could that possibly be when I have a confirmation email saying I have unlimited data confirmed and an official statement from Verizon headquarters to droid-life.com that the contracts will be honored He says he has never heard of this official statement and there's no news in the system regarding this weekend. I then proceed to read it verbatim to him. He repeats that there's nothing in the system regarding this, so my account will default to the 2GB plan. I'm really starting to hate this "system" at this point...
Wanting to retain my unlimited data, I then ask and give him all the info for the first order. He says he can't find it in the system (there goes that system again...) He continues to search for a couple minutes and says he can't find the order. He then puts me on hold saying he is contacting another department. After several minutes of being on hold, he comes back on line and says the other department told him they found the order, but since it was not attached to a phone number it was harder to find. The status of this order is processed, out to the warehouse, and can not be canceled. Wait. What? Does that mean it's being shipped today? He says he doesn't have that information. He can only go by the previous 10/10 date.
I realized at this point this guy was going to be no use to me. He cannot help me retain unlimited data on the second order and he can't cancel the second. I ask him to escalate the call and he does. So, I have to explain the whole situation to the new guy all over, of course...
He punches up the numbers for the second order and it comes right up in his system. He confirms that it is at the warehouse stage, but doesn't know when it's going to ship either. He sticks to the 10/10 date as well as that's what's official and on the order.
He then punches up the second order's numbers and he says the system shows I will retain unlimited, that it is not at the warehouse stage, and he's sticking to the 10/10 date on that order for shipping as well. I explain the droid-life statement and he's completely aware of it as he had many friends and colleagues ask him about it over the weekend. He even tried to place an order himself, but it wouldn't let him do it with his employee ID and there wasn't anybody working on the weekend to override the system. I tell him I'm a heavy data user and need to retain my unlimited. He said he was grandfathered in and was a heavy user as well. FINALLY, a sympathetic ear. He says he will do everything in his power keep the unlimited for me.
He then goes to droid-life.com and takes a screenshot of the official statement from Verizon. He then gives me his personal Verizon email address to forward the confirmation email I got from the second order. He gets it and takes a screenshot of it as well. He puts them both as attachments to the trouble ticket. He types for a couple more minutes and then says, "Okay, this is all the proof I need. I personally guarantee you will not lose your unlimited data when you activate this phone." A HUGE sigh of relief come out of my mouth.
I then give him this scenario: Let's go with the 10th as the shipping date and say I sign for it on the 12th. What next? He said activate the phone via verizonwireless.com. Do NOT call to activate or bring it to a local store to activate. This may cause the line to be manually reverted to the 2GB plan due to human error and interaction. Basically, he's saying let "the system" activate the phone since it currently says I'm supposed to have unlimited. After activating the phone, immediately log out of the verizonwireless.com website and log back in. If the data gets changed you'll know immediately. In my mind I envision a scenario in my head of calling on the 12th and having to go through this allllllll over again starting from scratch. I ask afraid to hear his next response, "what do I do if that happens?" He immediately responds, "Email me. I'll fix it within 10 minutes. I have access to the tools to revert you." I swore I heard a church choir hymn and saw a halo above this guy's head in that instant. He went on to further say, "In fact, I'm curious as to how the system handles your case. Please email me even if your unlimited is retained." For what this guy did for me, hell yeah I am.
End result, lessons learned and advice to all glitch order people:
1) Once the subsidized order was guaranteed intact, I had him cancel the first full retail price order. He said this would have to be a "manual order cancel" since my order was already in processing. It will take 12-24 hours to process this manual cancellation. He said if I don't have a cancel confirmation email by this time tomorrow to email him and he will track it down.
2) This Verizon "system" is HUGE and can be messed up at any time by any human. The front line call center people apparently have VERY limited access to this system. There's so many hands in this system that your orders and rights can be screwed up in an instant, sometimes through no fault of their own. If you talk to the right person with enough access to the system, it actually works. This second tier Verizon rep has reinvigorated my support for this company. I no longer just like the network; I like their service-- A LOT.
3) If you have a "glitch" order pending, call Verizon today as soon as you get home. Be prepared to go through the same struggle, but never waiver in your determination to keep your unlimited at the subsidized price. If you talk to the right person it will happen. Once you have your unlimited assured, if you're not told to by whomever you talk to activate by the website only, activate by the website only. If your unlimited goes away after activation, call or go to your local Verizon store immediately to have it fixed.
Attached is proof I emailed him my "glitch" confirmation email and his reply acknowledgement.
Hope this helps some of you out there,
Doc
docnok63 said:
3) If you have a "glitch" order pending, call Verizon today as soon as you get home. Be prepared to go through the same struggle, but never waiver in your determination to keep your unlimited at the subsidized price. If you talk to the right person it will happen. Once you have your unlimited assured, if you're not told to by whomever you talk to activate by the website only, activate by the website only. If your unlimited goes away after activation, call or go to your local Verizon store immediately to have it fixed.
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I'm going to activate it through VerizonWireless.com like you said, but I'm not going to bother to call. If I lose unlimited after signing up for the unlimited plan I'll simply call them and let them know they need to revert me back to unlimited or I'll be canceling without a termination fee. Then I'll head over to T-Mobile, pick up the Note 3, and be happy.
Thanks for the heads up though, much appreciated.
I saw it on TV news last night, Verizon WILL be honoring the contracts made unlimited due to the glitch! You guys lucky! I wasn't up for renewal, 5 mo to go, so missed out.
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LillieBennett said:
I saw it on TV news last night, Verizon WILL be honoring the contracts made unlimited due to the glitch! You guys lucky! I wasn't up for renewal, 5 mo to go, so missed out.
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LillieBennett said:
I saw it on TV news last night, Verizon WILL be honoring the contracts made unlimited due to the glitch!
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I'm very sure they'll honor the contracts now that they've officially said so. It's your current status in the system that will determine if your unlimited stays after you activate the phone. If it's set to put you at the 2GB default, then it will. Then you'll have to spend all kinds of time on the phone and/or at the Verizon store getting it back. It's better to nip it in the bud before the phone comes so you can just enjoy the awesomeness that is the Note 3!
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I'm very sure they'll honor the contracts now that they've officially said so. It's your current status in the system that will determine if your unlimited stays after you activate the phone. If it's set to put you at the 2GB default, then it will. Then you'll have to spend all kinds of time on the phone and/or at the Verizon store getting it back. It's better to nip it in the bud before the phone comes so you can just enjoy the awesomeness that is the Note 3!
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They announced monday morning that they were going to honor all the orders from this past weekend. I'd suggest subscribing to a few android news feeds. Could save you a lot of time in the future.
The plot thickens........
Gotta love that Verizon system...
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This could possibly mean that my retail price order shipped.
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WHSV if I remember correctly, but it's to late to change orders, those who stayed with the glitch order won big, congratulations!
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I'm a former verizon employee, both in over the phone tier 1 customer service and in store retail rep. As xda has been a huge help to me in the past I figured it was time to break my silence. I'm also going to use this post to give you some insider secrets.
First, it seems like you lucked out with the second rep. He was clearly on his game, and had a supervisor who is able to give him some leeway. He offered to give you his personal email * a big no no, and wants to help you. If hes taking screenshots, he most likely notated your account, which is good for you. The lesson to learn here is twofold. One, there are many corporate reps who will tell you whatever you want to hear to get you off the phone and will either forget to notate the account, or will blatantly not write it in your account (I used to clean these up all the time). Given that he he gave you an @VerizonWireless.com email I would assume, you are in good shape. Now, here is where things get interesting. Verizon cannot fill its customer service ranks as the job is a thankless one, and unless you are vested, most reps are lucky to last a year. In addition, they have been closing call centers and asking more of the reps they already have. As a result, verizon backfills there demand with third party call centers. These third party call centers are unfortunately very un-acountable because no one in corporate has access to them. If they can't give you a real email, then they are likely one of these reps. Unfortunately, reps aren't supposed to give out their emails to begin with, so its a crapshoot to begin with, but its a place to start. Also, verizon centers run until 11pm in their local jurisdiction. The later you call, the more likely you are to get one of these reps.
It also seems like this person had a competent supervisor who would be willing to back them up. Unfortunately not all supervisors are willing to work with you. Verizon tied the supervisor schedules to things like credits, so you may need to call multiple times to get what you want.
As for the first rep. He could either have been a third party rep *who get half the information as corporate reps and half the access, or he could just not be aware of what happened. A lot of verizon employees don't follow places like droid-life, and in cases of leaks, they are the last people to know about anything. Usually it takes a while before there is even an official response from legal. Furthermore, corporate would likely be telling the reps to try and get you to switch, because "your data usage is really low" or some other bull****. The best option is to stay firm, but never lose your temper. Most reps will try their best to help you out as long as you remain civil. The minute you start yelling and screaming, you've lost your leverage. Verizon reps live and die by surveys, and they want you to give them a ten, but if they've already got their survey for the day, then acting like an ass is a surefire way to get nowhere.
The rep you got did an amazing job, if you get a survey make sure to give him a ten.
-If anyone has questions about how to navigate vzw's systems, what to say to reps etc from an insider perspective shoot me a pm. I left there in august(from retail), so my information is a bit out of date, but I will do my best to help.
soupaloup said:
I'm a former verizon employee, both in over the phone tier 1 customer service and in store retail rep. As xda has been a huge help to me in the past I figured it was time to break my silence. I'm also going to use this post to give you some insider secrets.
First, it seems like you lucked out with the second rep. He was clearly on his game, and had a supervisor who is able to give him some leeway. He offered to give you his personal email * a big no no, and wants to help you. If hes taking screenshots, he most likely notated your account, which is good for you. The lesson to learn here is twofold. One, there are many corporate reps who will tell you whatever you want to hear to get you off the phone and will either forget to notate the account, or will blatantly not write it in your account (I used to clean these up all the time). Given that he he gave you an @VerizonWireless.com email I would assume, you are in good shape. Now, here is where things get interesting. Verizon cannot fill its customer service ranks as the job is a thankless one, and unless you are vested, most reps are lucky to last a year. In addition, they have been closing call centers and asking more of the reps they already have. As a result, verizon backfills there demand with third party call centers. These third party call centers are unfortunately very un-acountable because no one in corporate has access to them. If they can't give you a real email, then they are likely one of these reps. Unfortunately, reps aren't supposed to give out their emails to begin with, so its a crapshoot to begin with, but its a place to start. Also, verizon centers run until 11pm in their local jurisdiction. The later you call, the more likely you are to get one of these reps.
It also seems like this person had a competent supervisor who would be willing to back them up. Unfortunately not all supervisors are willing to work with you. Verizon tied the supervisor schedules to things like credits, so you may need to call multiple times to get what you want.
As for the first rep. He could either have been a third party rep *who get half the information as corporate reps and half the access, or he could just not be aware of what happened. A lot of verizon employees don't follow places like droid-life, and in cases of leaks, they are the last people to know about anything. Usually it takes a while before there is even an official response from legal. Furthermore, corporate would likely be telling the reps to try and get you to switch, because "your data usage is really low" or some other bull****. The best option is to stay firm, but never lose your temper. Most reps will try their best to help you out as long as you remain civil. The minute you start yelling and screaming, you've lost your leverage. Verizon reps live and die by surveys, and they want you to give them a ten, but if they've already got their survey for the day, then acting like an ass is a surefire way to get nowhere.
The rep you got did an amazing job, if you get a survey make sure to give him a ten.
-If anyone has questions about how to navigate vzw's systems, what to say to reps etc from an insider perspective shoot me a pm. I left there in august(from retail), so my information is a bit out of date, but I will do my best to help.
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Wow! Thanks for this incredibly useful post man!
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I also ordered a phone during the glitch An s4. Got it yesterday called them today and the guy told me he knew nothing of a glitch that let users keep unlimited data. Told him to ask his supervisor, which he did and after a brief hold came back on and said there is an internal memo email about this issue. He stated that this is known throughout all call centers as well as stores that we are to KEEP unlimited data if we ordered during the glitch. So use that info when calling because he assured me for my piece of mind that my unlimted data on all four accounts will be intact. Activated phone and it stayed unlimited. :laugh:
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I also ordered a phone during the glitch An s4. Got it yesterday called them today and the guy told me he knew nothing of a glitch that let users keep unlimited data. Told him to ask his supervisor, which he did and after a brief hold came back on and said there is an internal memo email about this issue. He stated that this is known throughout all call centers as well as stores that we are to KEEP unlimited data if we ordered during the glitch. So use that info when calling because he assured me for my piece of mind that my unlimted data on all four accounts will be intact. Activated phone and it stayed unlimited. :laugh:
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Congratulations! Enjoy your S4! It's a great phone. I'll be giving mine to my son when my Note 3 comes. Now if only Verizon could cancel my first full retail price order. They're still "working" on it. It's been two days now......still no cancel confirmation email.
docnok63 said:
Congratulations! Enjoy your S4! It's a great phone. I'll be giving mine to my son when my Note 3 comes. Now if only Verizon could cancel my first full retail price order. They're still "working" on it. It's been two days now......still no cancel confirmation email.
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Verizon has a separate website for "iconic" pre-orders. Although it looks pretty much the same as the regular order status site, it is a different one. This site gives you the option to cancel your pre-order, but it's kind of hidden.
Try going to this exact website:
https://preorder.verizonwireless.com/iconic/
Then click on "Check Order Status" on the bottom. Enter your pre-order confirmation number and last name and you will get the option to either cancel the order or change payment.
Hope this helps.
LuczOr said:
Verizon has a separate website for "iconic" pre-orders. Although it looks pretty much the same as the regular order status site, it is a different one. This site gives you the option to cancel your pre-order, but it's kind of hidden.
Try going to this exact website:
https://preorder.verizonwireless.com/iconic/
Then click on "Check Order Status" on the bottom. Enter your pre-order confirmation number and last name and you will get the option to either cancel the order or change payment.
Hope this helps.
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Dude, that was PERFECT!!! I did it!!!
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Dude, that was PERFECT!!! I did it!!!
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Nice! The only reason I know about it is because I had to change my payment info, but nobody could do it for me in live chat or even over the phone. Even the csr I was talking to didn't know about it till she talked to a higher up, but they pointed me in the right direction, finally.
LuczOr said:
Nice! The only reason I know about it is because I had to change my payment info, but nobody could do it for me in live chat or even over the phone. Even the csr I was talking to didn't know about it till she talked to a higher up, but they pointed me in the right direction, finally.
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Yes thanks for the tip. I used it to confirm that three previous orders had been canceled, and one wasn't.
Thanks again. Brilliant.
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docnok63 said:
Dude, that was PERFECT!!! I did it!!!
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You might want to edit out all of your personal information from that screenshot...
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You might want to edit out all of your personal information from that screenshot...
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Thanks. As you saw from the original one, I edited in the bottom and didn't even think about the tabs... Thanks again.
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Thanks. As you saw from the original one, I edited in the bottom and didn't even think about the tabs... Thanks again.
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No prob. Just figured you overlooked it.
not to hijack the thread
Not to hijack this thread, but i had question for you guys.
I got a LG G2 during the glitch and picked it up in store the same day with the idea of exchanging it for a Note 3 when it releases.
anyways I was thinking, if I go to exchange it in store and go to the same person who helped me last time (keep unlimited) would it be just a straight exchange plus the difference of the phone? I dont want them to remove my unlimited.
Also i bought the g2 with the "verizon30" coupon...would that still work with the note 3 when i exchange it?
thanks guys!
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Just got told pretty much that my free & clear 3000 should go **** itself. Of course not in that mean of words but yeah....
I asked the women ("account manager") about upgrading to an evo 3d for my free and clear 3000 and switching my verizon line to them to get another evo 3d. She was like oh you have to have premium data. So of course I replied with check my account it has premium data...then she made some more excuses, which i told her I had heard before. then finally she stated "I (yes as if she owned sprint) will not give you that upgrade because sprint employee's don't get it." I was like oh really? I would like to speak to someone above you.... she then stated that she was the highest. I told her to put a note on my account and I would be cancelling, I would rather pay some other company that has decent customer service for a phone. She was like "ok I will write that on your account. goodbye". I've been with them since like '07 or '08. Think twice before you get something with sprint.... Even ATT let iphone customers keep unlimited data because they had it before they changed it. Anyone else have ****ty customer service when it comes to sprint?
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Just got told pretty much that my free & clear 3000 should go **** itself. Of course not in that mean of words but yeah....
I asked the women ("account manager") about upgrading to an evo 3d for my free and clear 3000 and switching my verizon line to them to get another evo 3d. She was like oh you have to have premium data. So of course I replied with check my account it has premium data...then she made some more excuses, which i told her I had heard before. then finally she stated "I (yes as if she owned sprint) will not give you that upgrade because sprint employee's don't get it." I was like oh really? I would like to speak to someone above you.... she then stated that she was the highest. I told her to put a note on my account and I would be cancelling, I would rather pay some other company that has decent customer service for a phone. She was like "ok I will write that on your account. goodbye". I've been with them since like '07 or '08. Think twice before you get something with sprint.... Even ATT let iphone customers keep unlimited data because they had it before they changed it. Anyone else have ****ty customer service when it comes to sprint?
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just get the sero premium. sprint usually has some of the best service. you can't keep that old plan forever mate
lol OWNED by sprint customer service..
Anytime I come across someone like that (at Sprint or anywhere) I'll hang up and call again to speak to someone else. I would try that before jumping ship over one dumb ass.
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Anytime I come across someone like that (at Sprint or anywhere) I'll hang up and call again to speak to someone else. I would try that before jumping ship over one dumb ass.
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Agree, op is overreacting to some representative in a few bad mood
jessejames111981 said:
Agree, op is overreacting to some representative in a few bad mood
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This
...and the grass isn't greener anywhere else, where ya going to run too? the more exspensive att? verizon? or tmobile soon to be att?
some representatives suck for any company, call and try again, and again until someone is cool and works out a deal, i 've been told to screw off by tmobile, only to get sent to a loyalty group a phone call later and ending up with a sweet deal
a csr getting paid 11 bucks an hour was getting over it...hang up...say what an asshole put a smile back on and call again and get it done.
Yeah Verizon, ATT and T-Mobile customer service is the worst. Sprint has been rated #1 for the past 2 years. And I'll let you on a litle secret those surveys can mean the difference between a job and being fired. So the representatives try to do as much as they can to make sure you are "very satisfied." Sometimes the supervisors will call bluffs though. Sprint can't be a push over for everyone
Also OP you are way in the wrong though. That Free and Clear 3000 was made specifically for the purposes of not having eligibility. That part of the compromise. $20 a month, but no eligibility. You are at fault there.
So I'm just gonna throw this out there... Hey OP, have you ever had a bad day? Maybe overreacted to someone elses comments or mood? I sure have, and it sounds like that "mean lady" did too. FWIW, I almost never call sprint anymore, the online chat is quicker, more effective, and you can save the transcripts
sounds like a rep with bad mood, just call again. I had the best experience with sprint the last time I called.
You'll never get an Android or any new smart phone on a free and clear plan unless they do like they did with sero (doubtful since they did that was done so long ago with no news of other legacy plans being 'premium'). You'll be stuck with touch pro 2 era phones unless you change plans.
Whosdaman said:
Yeah Verizon, ATT and T-Mobile customer service is the worst. Sprint has been rated #1 for the past 2 years. And I'll let you on a litle secret those surveys can mean the difference between a job and being fired. So the representatives try to do as much as they can to make sure you are "very satisfied." Sometimes the supervisors will call bluffs though. Sprint can't be a push over for everyone
Also OP you are way in the wrong though. That Free and Clear 3000 was made specifically for the purposes of not having eligibility. That part of the compromise. $20 a month, but no eligibility. You are at fault there.
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http://articles.moneycentral.msn.co...l-of-shame-companies-2010.aspx?slide-number=7
They were #1 here. I also here recently had to deal with the BS of having to jump through hoops and talk to multiple people before you guys would do what you said you would. Your customer service may be getting better but it's still nothing to brag about...
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Whosdaman said:
Yeah Verizon, ATT and T-Mobile customer service is the worst..
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I must say 90% of my dealings with T-Mobile for the past 6 or so years has been amazing.
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Just got told pretty much that my free & clear 3000 should go **** itself. Of course not in that mean of words but yeah....
I asked the women ("account manager") about upgrading to an evo 3d for my free and clear 3000 and switching my verizon line to them to get another evo 3d. She was like oh you have to have premium data. So of course I replied with check my account it has premium data...then she made some more excuses, which i told her I had heard before. then finally she stated "I (yes as if she owned sprint) will not give you that upgrade because sprint employee's don't get it." I was like oh really? I would like to speak to someone above you.... she then stated that she was the highest. I told her to put a note on my account and I would be cancelling, I would rather pay some other company that has decent customer service for a phone. She was like "ok I will write that on your account. goodbye". I've been with them since like '07 or '08. Think twice before you get something with sprint.... Even ATT let iphone customers keep unlimited data because they had it before they changed it. Anyone else have ****ty customer service when it comes to sprint?
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Doubt anyone can make that happen for you.
Have you tried converting your plan to SERO-PREMIUM?
Hello,
I have been with Sprint for just over 12 Years. During which time I must say they have actually helped out a great deal on the whole. Indeed, if you are getting nowhere with a particular CSR, hangup and try again.
Due to being with them for so long and because I have always had the flagship Sprint Phone (for many years that was an oxymoron) and Data Plan, I get same price as New Customer Discounts every year. However, I only added the EVO in September going from a Palm Pre.
With the EVO 3D about to be released, I decided I wanted to try and get the Promotional Price now so that I did not have to wait until September for the 3D. The first person I spoke to in Retention was On Hold trying to get approval only for the call to be disconnected. I called right back and was flat out denied and told September 1st would be the earliest. I immediately called back and got the right person and lo and behold I will now be able to get a 3D at Launch Day at the $199 price.
Now that Sprint is no longer doing the Mail in Rebate (oh hells yeah) as of 2 Months ago and the fact that they offer 150 Dollars Trade In for the 4G that the 3D is only going to cost 50 Dollars plus Tax.
It definitely helps to have a good Payment History and to have been there a long time, but I really do think Sprint's Customer Service has been greatly improved over the past few years.
Cheers,
JJ
Whosdaman said:
Yeah Verizon, ATT and T-Mobile customer service is the worst. Sprint has been rated #1 for the past 2 years. And I'll let you on a litle secret those surveys can mean the difference between a job and being fired. So the representatives try to do as much as they can to make sure you are "very satisfied." Sometimes the supervisors will call bluffs though. Sprint can't be a push over for everyone
Also OP you are way in the wrong though. That Free and Clear 3000 was made specifically for the purposes of not having eligibility. That part of the compromise. $20 a month, but no eligibility. You are at fault there.
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There is more to it than "Rob, you have missed 19 surveys this quarter, get your things together and exit the building immediately."
While we strive at Sprint to provide the best customer service possible, we have to keep in mind that sometimes what the customer is requesting is just impossible to comply with (like using a plan that is not compatible with certain devices, ect).
Sometimes no matter what you do, a customer is not happy, or like displayed on this forum, they assume the survey you receive is critical to your employment and give you a 1 out of spite. These things can be researched to see if the best possible customer service has been provided which is what Sprint is in the business of doing, backed by the most recent customer service awards.
So how do i go about switching to sero premium?
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There is more to it than "Rob, you have missed 19 surveys this quarter, get your things together and exit the building immediately."
While we strive at Sprint to provide the best customer service possible, we have to keep in mind that sometimes what the customer is requesting is just impossible to comply with (like using a plan that is not compatible with certain devices, ect).
Sometimes no matter what you do, a customer is not happy, or like displayed on this forum, they assume the survey you receive is critical to your employment and give you a 1 out of spite. These things can be researched to see if the best possible customer service has been provided which is what Sprint is in the business of doing, backed by the most recent customer service awards.
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You see, thats where your wrong on this one. I called to ask about an upgrade and switch a line from verizon to sprint. I never once had an attitude or anything. I'm in the military, I was taught to treat everyone with respect. The person I talked to was flat out rude. She didn't offer me a sero plan or anything. She just told me that I have to switch to a full price plan, which no matter what anyone says I find completely bull****. I have referred numerous people to sprint, and have a up to date account with them. I had gone on the support chat before I called and the guy that was chatting with me gave me the number and told me to ask, his exact words were
"06/14/2011 05:14:16PM Agent (Billy A.): "You can do that, I have seen your account history and it is approved for the new line."
So that is what gets to me, one person willing to help and another person being a complete ass. Like I said I have been with sprint for YEARS, the least they could have done was been nice and not have an attitude. Now, blame it on the women or not; she is Sprint's employee and represents their company she should know how to treat people with respect.
EDIT: also before having an HTC hero on the plan they told me it was impossible to put that on my plan, because it needed premium data. I called and talked to some people and on my account it says "Premium Data $0 add-on charge $0.00" so i know that it is possible to help a customer out...
I don't think you will get it changed to sero-p.
From what I have read you should try and get it changed to the F&C3000 indirect employee plan.
I don't know anything about the plans but this is from a brief search. Also you need to keep trying until you find a rep that is familiar with the plan.
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207732&page=14
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You see, thats where your wrong on this one. I called to ask about an upgrade and switch a line from verizon to sprint. I never once had an attitude or anything. I'm in the military, I was taught to treat everyone with respect. The person I talked to was flat out rude. She didn't offer me a sero plan or anything. She just told me that I have to switch to a full price plan, which no matter what anyone says I find completely bull****. I have referred numerous people to sprint, and have a up to date account with them. I had gone on the support chat before I called and the guy that was chatting with me gave me the number and told me to ask, his exact words were
"06/14/2011 05:14:16PM Agent (Billy A.): "You can do that, I have seen your account history and it is approved for the new line."
So that is what gets to me, one person willing to help and another person being a complete ass. Like I said I have been with sprint for YEARS, the least they could have done was been nice and not have an attitude. Now, blame it on the women or not; she is Sprint's employee and represents their company she should know how to treat people with respect.
EDIT: also before having an HTC hero on the plan they told me it was impossible to put that on my plan, because it needed premium data. I called and talked to some people and on my account it says "Premium Data $0 add-on charge $0.00" so i know that it is possible to help a customer out...
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you aren't going to get them to give you the premium 4g data charge for free. Best you can do is get a sero premium plan
edit: email them here and ask:
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Thought I'd give AT&T a call to complain about the battery issue since the firmware update. My thought being that if they don't get enough people complaining about it, they won't push any fixes from Samsung to the devices...
I ended up talking to someone at an obviously out-sourced call center. I told him that since the firmware update, I've had horrible battery life AND that I've had dropped calls more often than before...
After having me sing, dance, pray to the moon, and do strange (and almost sexual) things to my phone, he decided that I should get a replacement battery. (Nevermind that the issue started from a firmware update, that my battery is in PERFECT physical shape, etc) He also managed to insult me when he first asked about moisture exposure, and then had me check the moisture indicators (they were white.)
He then checked into the dropped calls, and tells me that I might be getting dropped calls because I'm not staying perfectly still when on the phone. (I guess tower hand-off is no longer supported with AT&T wireless.) He then claims that I, in the last 2 days, had two phone calls: one for 16 minutes and one for 137 minutes. That's obviously NOT calls I've made. I then read off my call log to him (including the dropped calls.) He, without any warning, then (I guess) puts me on hold. 44 minutes later (I was timing it), I hear a click and fast busy.
It's no wonder that AT&T was rated among the worst for customer service among wireless carriers.
Gary
I know exactly what you mean. I've had similar experiences dealing with their tech support. You get put on hold for huge amounts of time, then out of nowhere, they hang up. I remember one day, I was calling about a warranty replacement for one of my older phones, I was hung up on 4 times. It wasn't a dropped call, each person I asked said the call wasn't dropped but was hanged up, (plus I have never had a dropped call). They really need to step their game up.
If only there were some way to get those damn Wireshark caps of BT-AMP going nuts to someone with a clue...
I've given up hope.
LOL! I think that's how they trained their reps. Either said that "We have no problem with ###." Or hang up if the rep cannot find the answer in the scripts on CD. LOL!
Yeah I jist got off phone with att warranty replacement. I don't know if I'm happy yet.the good news is they are sending me a replacement. Bad new is its refurbished. I told them that I didn't pay $98 for a used phone. Argument didn't get me too far so we shall see what happens. She called it a rare condition Phone. My problem was the defective screen.with black splotches
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LOL! I think that's how they trained their reps. Either said that "We have no problem with ###." Or hang up if the rep cannot find the answer in the scripts on CD. LOL!
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Lol! I worked for an AT&T call center a while back. You just gave me a flashback lol.
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Lol! I worked for an AT&T call center a while back. You just gave me a flashback lol.
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U r welcome. It must be true then. ROFLOL.
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I worked for an AT&T call center a while back.
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Oh. I'm so very sorry. Did it hurt? I'm glad to see you recovered from what must have been a low point in your life. You know, we all hit rock bottom at times, but as long as we get up, wipe off the dirt, and push on - everything will work out.
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I used to work at an AT&T call center and can recommend the following when dealing with them...always call back if you don't get what you want (within reason), never wait on hold for more than 10 min at a time (it's against co. policy to not check in every 5 min), be as courteous as possible given your circumstances. As a personal choice, I never speak to guys because they never help me--I always hang up and call back. If you get someone on the line that's difficult to understand, you can always "request an American agent." The outsourced agents have to try to help you, but if you insist, they have to transfer you. I hope this was at least mildly useful to someone reading this...
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ONE of the reasons I'm moving to Verizon in a few months. Piss poor customer service. Thanks for sharing Gary!
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The outsourced agents have to try to help you, but if you insist, they have to transfer you. I hope this was at least mildly useful to someone reading this...
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Really? That IS good to know. I have a conductive hearing loss, and its VERY VERY difficult for me to understand heavy or fast accents. Especially male accents (my loss is at the lower frequencies.)
Then again, half the outsourced agents insist they are in the US (but for some reason, only the ones actually in the US will tell me what state they are in.)
Very good information! Thank you!
Oh, and I'm glad to see that you survived your experience at AT&T. I hear employees at that company are starting to learn from Foxconn employees on how to leave a job. (jump off the roof of the building.)
ATT CS can be quite helpful. You just have to know how to talk and not waste time on an unhelpful agent.
Premier CS has always been American, helpful and always got me what I want/needed.
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Premier CS has always been American, helpful and always got me what I want/needed.
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What's premier CS? Extra customer service that you have to pay for?
If so that's kinda silly. Everyone gets CS, BUT if you want good CS, you need to pay extra ..LOL
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No. I have a Premier account (tied in with my company corporate account) so when I call and the system runs my number, it sees that and automatically transfers me to Premier customer support... which has always been American, helpful and knowledgeable. I pay nothing extra.
Hmm good to know. (I've got a corporate FAN applied, so have a Premier account.)
That said, when I have an issue, I just go into a corporate store. My experience is that corporate-owned stores have superior technical support.
I'm wondering if there's a way I can bring the evidence against UCKK6 I've collected into a store and actually have it get somewhere useful...
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No. I have a Premier account (tied in with my company corporate account) so when I call and the system runs my number, it sees that and automatically transfers me to Premier customer support... which has always been American, helpful and knowledgeable. I pay nothing extra.
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ah .. I don't have a premier account which explains the sh*tty customer service.
Well I'm a COR rep at an AT&T store, and I can tell you from experience that AT&T is a horrible company is so many ways.
I won't go into how bad they are to work for, and how horrible they treat their employees. They worry about the dumbrst stuff with their reps instead of worrying about what really counts in this company.
That aside. It's bad enough they treat us bad, but what's worse is they treat the customers bad.
Calling into Warranty is a nightmare, and I always suggest just driving to a Warranty center, which will be muich easier to get your phone replaced with minimal trouble.
Our deposit requirements are higher than any other Cell company. Yes we do have stricter credit requirements than Verizon. I've had customer who've had a few lines for years and never had an original deposit or late on their bills. You go to add a line and it hit's their credit and BOOM, it wants a deposit.
I could go on for an hour about all the crap, but I don't to depress anyone. LOL
The only reason I still work for AT&T is because I have been there so long that I'd hate to start out at the bottom with another company. But there are days I get close to putting in my resume at Verizon, which I think it is much better company in many ways.
On the phone with them now...
me: "My phone is less than 2 months old! I don't want it replaced with a refurbished phone. I want a new replacement."
them: "Sir, it won't be refurbished. it will be reconditioned."
me: "Please explain to me the difference."
them: "Sir, your phone is days more than 30 old, so it has to be reconditioned".
me: "Please explain to me the difference between refurbished and reconditioned. As far as I'm aware, they are the same."
them: "I told you that you have to have reconditioned replacement."
me: "I'd like to speak with an American Agent."
them: "I have no way to transfer you."
me: "I happen to know you can. Please transfer me to an american agent"
them: "there is nothing I can do transfer you."
me: "I'd like to speak with your supervisor"
them: "will you hold for 3-4 minutes while I get supervisor?"
me: "yes"
(5 minutes later)
them: "all supervisors are busy engaging in another calls. will you want to hold 3 4 more minutes?"
me: "yes"
...
(I hung up.)
Rather than mobility, I worked for AT&T/ Bell South's DSL division. It was rough at times, but all customer service is rough. You can't pick your customers (especially not the technologically illiterate) and when handling service-related calls, you often have to clean up after sales agents who lied to customers just to make their quota. It wouldn't be so bad, but corporate was complicit in encouraging that kind of behavior and the people that suffer are the customers and the tech & service suppport agents that they get irate with. I worked the system to keep my metrics in spec because corporate was more interested in how long I spent on a call than whether or not I actually fixed their problem. My opinion was that my primary goals were customer retention and connecting people with things they can actually use instead of worthless upgrades that they couldn't. Needless to say, I was the tier 2 agent you wanted to get bc I treated rules & processes like they were written in sand instead of stone:-D
My manager didn't like it, but his boss's boss liked my effectiveness so it was all good. As far as the job goes, it paid well, the benefits were good, and with such high turnover I got seniority for schedules in <6 months
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So I put in a pre order a few weeks back for the Note 3 online using Edge. Last Monday Verizon tried to charge my bank for the pre order and my bank held the funds as fraud for some reason (Because I paid my bill 2 days before probably). When I called in on Tuesday to have them resubmit and told my bank to clear it they pushed my preorder back and told me it would not ship out until Monday 10/14. So I canceled my preorder (Even though I already agreed to edge contract online) and went to store on Thursday.
They could not process my order because they said that I was already under an Edge contract. I've been dealing with customer service managers and tech support for the past 3 days trying to get the edge agreement cleared off my account but it's saying I owe $630+ on my edge contract for a phone I never got. Ugh anybody have any ideas what I need to do? I've done everything I can think of except call the corporate office which I plan on doing Monday if it's not fixed by then.
Long story short: There is a glitch in Verizon's system if you agree to the edge contract online on a pre-order then cancel the pre-order your edge contract sticks and Verizon still think you owe them even though you never got any merchandise.
I definitely didn't fall for that trap. You will end up paying for more just because you are paying for full pricE by the two year term
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So I put in a pre order a few weeks back for the Note 3 online using Edge. Last Monday Verizon tried to charge my bank for the pre order and my bank held the funds as fraud for some reason (Because I paid my bill 2 days before probably). When I called in on Tuesday to have them resubmit and told my bank to clear it they pushed my preorder back and told me it would not ship out until Monday 10/14. So I canceled my preorder (Even though I already agreed to edge contract online) and went to store on Thursday.
They could not process my order because they said that I was already under an Edge contract. I've been dealing with customer service managers and tech support for the past 3 days trying to get the edge agreement cleared off my account but it's saying I owe $630+ on my edge contract for a phone I never got. Ugh anybody have any ideas what I need to do? I've done everything I can think of except call the corporate office which I plan on doing Monday if it's not fixed by then.
Long story short: There is a glitch in Verizon's system if you agree to the edge contract online on a pre-order then cancel the pre-order your edge contract sticks and Verizon still think you owe them even though you never got any merchandise.
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I definitely didn't fall for that trap. You will end up paying for more just because you are paying for full pricE by the two year term
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That's what they want you to do, but I plan on paying $100 a month and have it paid off in 6 months without contract, but right now I'm pretty much screwed...
Be diligent and follow up each day until the charges are removed. It's a time such but if it's worth it to you then... it's worth it.
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Eventually you'll get a VZ Rep Sup from this planet and will fix it for you, I would keep trying and dont be nice.
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Be diligent and follow up each day until the charges are removed. It's a time such but if it's worth it to you then... it's worth it.
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Eventually you'll get a VZ Rep Sup from this planet and will fix it for you, I would keep trying and dont be nice.
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Been on the phone all morning and they are still having issues removing it. I'm wearing this poor girl out lol
the magic term when dealing with telecom companies... "I want to escalate." Get a supervisor... and if you're not getting satisfaction, escalate on them. Everyone has a boss. Keep going up the food chain until you get satisfaction.
Man. That sucks. Just keep calling man. That's all you can do.
I had a similar problem with T-Mobile and till this day Since 2007. I still owe them. That whole situation sucked ass. Just like this one.
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the magic term when dealing with telecom companies... "I want to escalate." Get a supervisor... and if you're not getting satisfaction, escalate on them. Everyone has a boss. Keep going up the food chain until you get satisfaction.
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Man. That sucks. Just keep calling man. That's all you can do.
I had a similar problem with T-Mobile and till this day Since 2007. I still owe them. That whole situation sucked ass. Just like this one.
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Unfortunately I have escalated up as far as possible on the weekend . The problem is that there is an issue with their system because Edge is so new and apparently I'm the first person to have this issue and not a single person has seen this issue ever before. The edge agreement is still showing active even though the pre order was cancelled.
They said that upper tier corporate IT will have to fix it tomorrow and that the corporate finance department will have to fix the money problem showing that I owe $633 for a phone I never got.
Same EXACT problem for me! Cancelled pre-order, Edge contract still tied to line. Cannot get the damned thing reversed. Can't get a phone. Call every day and they're working on it. I'm happy to give them money for a phone. Can't get ANYTHING now. Their system is horribly broken.
Unfortunately when you call into VZW and go through the prompts, most of the prompts that are customer service based go to an Outsource call center that only has the capability to answer limited general knowledge questions, and make small changes to the account. What you have to do to bypass that is to NOT choose a customer service issue on the automated system (Bill Payment, Features, Plans, Accessories, etc...) ALWAYS choose Technical Support. If you choose Technical Support you're routed to an internal VZW call center because the outsource isn't good at handling tier 1 technical support issues. Once you get a real VZW rep on the line tell them you don't want to speak to their Team Lead or a rep taking escalated calls for the supervisors. You either want to talk to a Supervisor or an Associate Director. If that doesn't help ask for Executive Relations. In a case where I've exhausted all my over the phone options and spoke to 1-2 sups and still didn't get anywhere I'll email the executive relations team. They always reply back to me within 48 hours and I've never had a problem with them. Their job is to be the last line of defense and do almost anything to keep the customer from wanting to escalate further.
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Same EXACT problem for me! Cancelled pre-order, Edge contract still tied to line. Cannot get the damned thing reversed. Can't get a phone. Call every day and they're working on it. I'm happy to give them money for a phone. Can't get ANYTHING now. Their system is horribly broken.
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I ended up calling the Executive office and have them working on it. They have no idea how to fix it in the corporate office and are completely stumped. So annoying.
I had a problem with a brand new tablet that got stolen. The store rep didn't add insurance on it when I got it and he even admitted to it. Supposedly they have to go into another site after the transaction to add it. Well long story short Verizon or the ins wouldn't cover it and wanted to charge me $350 for cancelation. The rep on the phone said he couldn't do anything at all. I asked for a supervisor and then he apologized and said he could make it a dummy line and me pay$10 a month. I told them this wasn't my fault that the ins didn't get added and that every phone I've ever owned has had ins. We went on and on till I asked his name and I'D # then told him my attorney would be contacting them he put me on hold for about 2 mins then said they would drop the line and not charge me.
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11 days in and I still don't have a phone. They cannot get the Edge stuff straightened out. Very frustrating. I really hope they don't start charging me on my next bill for a phone I never received.
RicoX9 said:
11 days in and I still don't have a phone. They cannot get the Edge stuff straightened out. Very frustrating. I really hope they don't start charging me on my next bill for a phone I never received.
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I'm still stuck in the same boat myself. I've been talking to the executive office everyday and they still can't figure it out as of today. My monthly edge payment did show up on my bill that's due in a couple of weeks but they waived it. They have already promised me the world once this is resolved. We'll see about that...
I honestly don't know what else to do from here except cancel Verizon and have a lawyer clear the contract cancellation fees, but at the same time 2 of my 4 lines are grandfathered with unlimited data and I'd hate to lose that going anywhere else. Dammed if I do, dammed if I don't. Let me know once you get yours resolved Rico.
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This is a little bit off topic, but for those that do plan to use Edge, you do not have the choice to pay more on your phone per month. You must either pay the normal monthly amount, or pay the 50% to upgrade, or 100% to close it out.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/2...s-att-next-vs-t-mobile-jump-vs-sprint-one-up/
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Executive care isn't what it use to be. They use to be able to do everything. I am working with executive care on a different issue and they are sorta useless. The plus side of working with executive care is they waive a lot of fee's and charges. I got both my upgrade fee's waived but it doesn't quite help when the phones you have are on their last legs and they won't ship your new phones.
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11 days in and I still don't have a phone. They cannot get the Edge stuff straightened out. Very frustrating. I really hope they don't start charging me on my next bill for a phone I never received.
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Hey Rico wanted to follow up and let you know they finally got mine cleared up today. I highly suggest calling the executive office and get it fixed. 212-395-1000. Good luck!
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Hey Rico wanted to follow up and let you know they finally got mine cleared up today. I highly suggest calling the executive office and get it fixed. 212-395-1000. Good luck!
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Thanks. I'll give that a shot. Next bill just posted. They swore up and down that I wouldn't be billed for the now cancelled Edge contract. The bill detail isn't available, but judging by the amount, they're billing me for the contract anyway.
If it weren't for the coverage, I'd be back on T-Mobile in a heartbeat.
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Hey Rico wanted to follow up and let you know they finally got mine cleared up today. I highly suggest calling the executive office and get it fixed. 212-395-1000. Good luck!
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I got a different number for executive care office. My number is from North Carolina.
So Lets start off by saying that I pre-ordered my Note 3 from VZW during the unlimited data glitch. At the same time I also ordered a gold iPhone 5s.
Now the fun starts. VZW has the worst online ordering system anyone can imagine. With this day and age why would you hold an order for 1 month because one item in the order isn't available? I would think you want to ship phones out as soon as they are available so the customer and start using it and possible adding additional revenue to VZW.
After multiple calls, emails and twitter comments I have come to the conclusion that they don't really care about customers. My complaint was answered by the executive care department and I was told tough if you want to keep unlimited you have to keep the order as is. If I wanted the Note 3 sooner I can cancel and reorder but I would lose my unlimited data.
The lady I spoke with was more than willing to manipulate the system so I can add an additional line to my account but they would not manipulate the system to allow my phone to be shipped sooner.
I really wish t-mobile had better coverage where I live. I would leave in an instant. Only way VZW will realize that customer satisfaction matters is if customers leave in droves. I know companies care about the bottom line but there is a fine line between customer satisfaction and the bottom line.
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So Lets start off by saying that I pre-ordered my Note 3 from VZW during the unlimited data glitch. At the same time I also ordered a gold iPhone 5s.
Now the fun starts. VZW has the worst online ordering system anyone can imagine. With this day and age why would you hold an order for 1 month because one item in the order isn't available? I would think you want to ship phones out as soon as they are available so the customer and start using it and possible adding additional revenue to VZW.
After multiple calls, emails and twitter comments I have come to the conclusion that they don't really care about customers. My complaint was answered by the executive care department and I was told tough if you want to keep unlimited you have to keep the order as is. If I wanted the Note 3 sooner I can cancel and reorder but I would lose my unlimited data.
The lady I spoke with was more than willing to manipulate the system so I can add an additional line to my account but they would not manipulate the system to allow my phone to be shipped sooner.
I really wish t-mobile had better coverage where I live. I would leave in an instant. Only way VZW will realize that customer satisfaction matters is if customers leave in droves. I know companies care about the bottom line but there is a fine line between customer satisfaction and the bottom line.
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NEVER TRUST ANYONE as Verizon, not even Executive relations.
I'm convinced they are knowingly and willingly lying to customers just to get them off the phone and are trained to behave
this way.
1 of many examples.
I called in to have the Verizon30 promo added as a credit, I called and spoke to a Ramona who said
"we have notated the account and the credit will be applied on the next bill"
(this was after 14 minutes on hold checking with supervisors, etc)
Well, I called back in the next day to confirm and nothing had been noted and i'm not getting ****.
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So Lets start off by saying that I pre-ordered my Note 3 from VZW during the unlimited data glitch. At the same time I also ordered a gold iPhone 5s.
Now the fun starts. VZW has the worst online ordering system anyone can imagine. With this day and age why would you hold an order for 1 month because one item in the order isn't available? I would think you want to ship phones out as soon as they are available so the customer and start using it and possible adding additional revenue to VZW.
After multiple calls, emails and twitter comments I have come to the conclusion that they don't really care about customers. My complaint was answered by the executive care department and I was told tough if you want to keep unlimited you have to keep the order as is. If I wanted the Note 3 sooner I can cancel and reorder but I would lose my unlimited data.
The lady I spoke with was more than willing to manipulate the system so I can add an additional line to my account but they would not manipulate the system to allow my phone to be shipped sooner.
I really wish t-mobile had better coverage where I live. I would leave in an instant. Only way VZW will realize that customer satisfaction matters is if customers leave in droves. I know companies care about the bottom line but there is a fine line between customer satisfaction and the bottom line.
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Just my take on this, and I just came from the much smaller and more inferior US Cellular, but I would consider myself lucky to get to keep the unlimited package. We have 3 phones on our account and in the first 2 days with Verizon, we used 2GB of our 6GB data plan. The coverage is SO much better and easier to use, we found ourselves using a lot of data without even realizing it.
And just a word of caution for anyone who doesn't know, the speedtest.net program uses a LOT of data. I ran the test less than 5 times and because the 4g is so fast and uses larger amounts of data for the tests, it reported that it used 434MB of data.
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NEVER TRUST ANYONE as Verizon, not even Executive relations. I'm convinced they are knowingly and willingly lying to customers just to get them off the phone and are trained to behave this way. 1 of many examples.
I called in to have the Verizon30 promo added as a credit, I called and spoke to a Ramona who said
"we have notated the account and the credit will be applied on the next bill"
(this was after 14 minutes on hold checking with supervisors, etc)
Well, I called back in the next day to confirm and nothing had been noted and i'm not getting ****.
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This is typical telephone "customer support" protocol, and not limited to Verizon. They tell you whatever they think you want to hear if it gets you off their line. Most customer service reps get paid based on how many calls they process each hour.
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At the same time I also ordered a gold iPhone 5s.
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See the problem there?
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See the problem there?
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I know thats the problem.... Its not for me. My wife prefers the iPhone.
I got them to waive the upgrade fee for both phones. She also stated she would waive the restock fee if I went and bought one at full retail then returned it.
To add more to the horrible service story.
I was told by executive customer care that I could go into the store and buy one at full retail. Use it till I get mine or return it within 14 days and they would waive the $35 restock fee. Needless to say that was false. The manager at the store basically told me that its not possible since there is a pending order and they would have to cancel my pending order to sell me the new phone. Wasted about 1 hr between driving and waiting at the store and left with nothing.
On the good side. My credit card was just charged and it looks like my phones should be shipped shortly.
This thread reminds me of the "Hello this is Peggy"(male voice) commercials
That's what it feels like.
Now the lady from executive care said she was wrong and they needed a line not tied to my pending order to sell me a phone at full retail.
It's okay hopefully I have mine by Wednesday. It's in Memphis and that's a direct flight to my local station
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Two things you did wrong...
You put both phones on one transaction, never do that especially with cell phones unless it's a buy one get one free thing. You'rejust asking for issues with your account like activation.
Second, . You got an iPhone
I'm about send a six page letter to the Verizon VP of retail operations and customer service. I have never experienced more improper behavior by the hourly employees of any company. Before the V10 release I called to confirm that unlimited data customers could buy the phone on the device payment plan on Nov. 15th. I received numerous confirmations over the phone. When I entered the store they had no idea what I was talking about. Fine, put that on Verizon corporate for not properly informing all the stores of what was going on. After many calls a customer service supervisor indicated that I was correct but that Verizon had not updated its own software to make the change in time. I placed the order online that night as the stores had already closed. When I called the next day with another supervisor they again told me I was correct and would make arrangement to ensure that I was given the device payment plan without losing my unlimited data. I arranged to pick up the phone at an official Verizon store. The supervisor assured me that she would follow up after I picked up the phone to make sure everything was correct.
SHADY BEHAVIOR #1 - that same supervisor went into the notes after the call the next day and left an outright lie indicating that she informed the customer (me) that I would NOT be able to buy on the device payment plan until December. The order was canceled and NO ONE notified until AFTER I walked into the store to pick up the phone. My order was canceled without any notification via email or text, so I basically wasted my time going to the store and making all these calls with the supervisor.
SHADY BEHAVIOR #2 - When I called customer service from wihin the store, another supervisor, who said she knew the first supervisor personally, began telling me that I had no order. I emailed it to her and she began refuting the validity of it and when I asked her to give me the status of the order she admitted she had no way of knowing because she had no access to internet orders, which was not her department. Clearly she was just trying to cover for her supervisor friend. I immediately told her to stop wasting my time, now some 30 minutes after first calling, and connect me with a supervisor in the internet orders department ASAP, what she should have done from the beginning. Unbelievable... they see that you are clearly angered and yet they try to blame you the customer for their mistakes.
I returned the phone after I was told that device payment plan would start exactly one week later. On the day I was eligible for the DPP I purchased a new phone. After spending nearly 10 hours and speaking to over a dozen different Verizon employees I wasn't about to come away from the ordeal without the device payment play as I was assured I would.
SHADY BEHAVIOR #3 - In the store the new phone (#2) was handed to me without a screen protector and a receipt was not given to me.
SHADY BEHAVIOR #4 - when I went back into the store to ask for a receipt, and point out that the phone was not working, a employee passed himself off as being "THE" manager. I asked him if he was the store manager and he admitted he was not. He would not provide me with receipt because the store was now closed although many employees were still inside with some customers. He said my receipt information would be available online, which was false. Even the confirmation email sent did not make reference to the model of the phone that was purchased it only made reference to my old phone.
SHADY BEHAVIOR #5 - The next day I returned the phone and was finally given a receipt. This phone also stopped working properly after a few hours! I called a store near my work to confirm if they had a replacement phone in stock and they said they did. I walked over to the store and they said, after finding out it was for an exchange, that they did not have the phone in stock after all. Huh? I drove over to another Verizon store as no one was picking up the phone (??) and as soon as I walked in I asked if they had my phone in stock. They said sure we have it. I asked them to confirm but they would not tell me unless I gave them my phone number, presumably to see if I was there for an exchange or for a new line activation. I told the guy it was for an exchange and he went in the back stock room and, when he came out surprise, surprise they didn't have the phone in stock. I'm tenacious so I walked over to the third Verizon store of the night. On the way over I called and asked if they had the phone in stock, they confirmed that they did and that they had more than one in stock. When I walked in they tried to do the same thing, as soon as I asked if they had it in stock they wouldn't answer unless I gave them my phone number. But this time I had them on the hook because the guy told me over the phone that they the phone in stock and "PLENTY". The employee that took care of me tried to give me the run around too once they saw it was an exchange. She took my phone to the back room to show it to her manager and confirm the equipment problem. I asked her to tell him to come out as I did not want my phone leaving my sight for long. She said he could not come out..... shady. She comes out with a new phone and I ask her to turn it on before she switches over the service as I want to make sure the screen is 100% operational before I have to go through a third exchange. She says she can't take it out of the box without switching over the service. I asked her if they had more than one of the phone in stock in case there was a problem, and without making eye contact she responds with an incoherent "nu uhh" and head shake. I did not tell her that her own co-worker confirmed that they IN FACT did have more than one phone in stock nor did I ask why they were now singing a different tune. Seriously... this is how a publicly traded company runs its retail operations?
To summarize, I was LIED to repeatedly by Verizon employees. Supervisors lied in their notes to cover up their giving out incorrect information. Verizon retail stores make it deliberately hard for your to exchange a phone. I plan to send this letter to the consumer protection agency run by the federal government.
Somehow I find it hard to believe you where treated this badly by VZ. You had 3 brand new defective phones in a row??
I have dealt with 3 different VZ stores in my area & have had excellent/courteous service from all 3. Sure, we where all upset when VZ raised the price of the unlimited data service by $20 a month (I cancelled 3 lines because of that) but that was not their employees fault.
I owned a retail store for over 20 years & your whole attitude seems to me as being one of those customers that is never satisfied no matter how hard they try.
~John
^ Yes I can tell you were a retail owner. To make a blanket statement like "your whole attitude" is indicative of that.
You made not a single mention of the outright lies that were told by the Verizon employees but instead opted to put it on the customer or impugned the customer's integrity by voicing skepticism of faulty equipment without any solid basis for that skepticism. You don't know me, and you don't know the track record of an entirely new phone. Have you visited the LG forums to see those who have had to make multiple returns? Of course not. Yours is the typical management response of Fortune 500 companies that are loathed by the public.
Also, there were two returns for faulty equipment, each confirmed at the Verizon store before a new phone was given. The first return was simply my prerogative to take advantage of the device payment plan, as I was initially told by numerous Verizon employees prior to the initial sale. And secondly you fail to address the point that the stores apparently have unethical motivation to make an exchange of their inventory for another location's sale of hotly sought after phones deliberately more difficult.
And by the way, I worked for a five star hotel, deemed the best in the metropolitan area, all through college where we bent over backwards to ensure customer loyalty and to deliver value for premium services. I had to take written tests for AAA certification to verify that I knew all the latest information required of my job and had frequent training seminars to ensure that we were all worthy of the "best in class" title. Verizon like trumpet that they're the best, evidently they don't visit their own stores very often. You know how well your operation is doing when the customer has a problem, and not just for how well they handle mundane transactions. Can your staff rectify the problem as quickly as possible without further aggravation to customer? But ultimately we're not talking about just dropped balls and incompetence here, we're talking of employees repeatedly making deliberately false statements to customers. That's beyond acceptable.
Sucks to be PorscheOscar.
Is there any chance that the humanity of at least ONE employee would have come forth and done at least half-of-the-right-thing by you if you were presenting a good persona?
But I feel for you ... because of course ... ALL the employee's in the store wouldn't have the same negative attitude and manipulate a computer system because the person in front of them was completely rational, respectful and courteous. It has to be some corporate level decision that was sent through the regional representatives and programmed into the one store to single YOU out and destroy your integrity.
I've been disappointed by some of Verizon's products and also their staff before - but instead of finding a manager within the store that supported someone I couldn't get a positive interaction with, I just drove 5 to 10 miles in any direction and went to a different Verizon store.
Good luck trying to get good service from a Verizon Rep based on the computer notes now!
I've been with Verizon for 10+ years (also have unlimited data). I've been pretty happy with their service. I typically call 611 when I have issues rather than visiting a call. The stores #1 (and seemingly only) objective is to sell devices. They have no interest in handling returns/defects/etc. I've actually called 611 from within a store when a sales rep told me something wasn't covered.
The information they told you could have been true and false at the same time. Did they have several brand new V10's in inventory? Yes. Did they have refurbed V10's in inventory to issue as replacements? No. Most companies will not give you a brand new phone as a replacement. A manager can choose to give you one but that's few and far between. Though Verizon (in terms of the big 4 carriers) is your best bet at getting such replacement.
Next time try calling 611. They'll ship you a replacement and give you a return label for the defective one.
All in all, your experience is still better than you'd expect from AT&T. Wanna test that? Ask a Verizon rep to send you a text or e-mail (written confirmation) of something. They will. I've been fighting AT&T U-Verse since July for a bill that I don't owe. Every month they bill me, every month I call and explain, and every month some rep (or manager) has said not to worry and they've removed it from my account. EVERY SINGLE REP has told me they're not allowed to send any e-mails, texts, faxes, or mail...no written confirmation. I got my first collection letter last week. It's my word against theirs. Sorry POS company!
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I've been with Verizon for 10+ years (also have unlimited data). I've been pretty happy with their service. I typically call 611 when I have issues rather than visiting a call. The stores #1 (and seemingly only) objective is to sell devices. They have no interest in handling returns/defects/etc. I've actually called 611 from within a store when a sales rep told me something wasn't covered.
The information they told you could have been true and false at the same time. Did they have several brand new V10's in inventory? Yes. Did they have refurbed V10's in inventory to issue as replacements? No. Most companies will not give you a brand new phone as a replacement. A manager can choose to give you one but that's few and far between. Though Verizon (in terms of the big 4 carriers) is your best bet at getting such replacement.
Next time try calling 611. They'll ship you a replacement and give you a return label for the defective one.
All in all, your experience is still better than you'd expect from AT&T. Wanna test that? Ask a Verizon rep to send you a text or e-mail (written confirmation) of something. They will. I've been fighting AT&T U-Verse since July for a bill that I don't owe. Every month they bill me, every month I call and explain, and every month some rep (or manager) has said not to worry and they've removed it from my account. EVERY SINGLE REP has told me they're not allowed to send any e-mails, texts, faxes, or mail...no written confirmation. I got my first collection letter last week. It's my word against theirs. Sorry POS company!
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1. I'm glad you pointed out the issue about exchanges vs. Refunds. Note to all: if you are still in your two week return window and have an issue DO NOT EXCHANGE. RETURN FOR REDUND ONLY. They will not tell you if you are receiving a refurbished phone. Demand a new phone. I can't believe I made this mistake because I had exactly this same experience 6 years ago with Droid X. They kept giving me refurbished phones one after the other until I was in my 9th return. Verizon have very poor if nonexistent quality control testing of refurbished phones. I'm going to have to give hard thought to returning this phone if they confirm that it's a refurb, even if I have to eat the $35 restocking fee. Given how the manager of the store couldn't be bothered to leave the back room I have no issue with giving him a return.
2. Yes AT&T is bad, Sprint is Worse and Tmobil I once caught red handed doing something shady on international calls which I reported to the State Attorneys and FCC. But Verizon leads them all for expensive service. The expectation of competent and non-shady service goes up. This all unfortunate because I reward straight shooters with long term loyalty. I would expect this from a fly by night Cell phone company but not an established company with millions of shareholders.
Was the Droid X that long ago? I loved that phone.
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I've never had issues with Verizon by phone conversation. but going to a Verizon retail store is a different story. stay away
I called LG to verify I had a new phone and They said it was. Also, while I was in the phone with them I asked about an issue I was having with a set of refurbished LG 900 Infinium headphones purchased on Amazon. I was told that if you buy LG Bluetooth headphones and have an issue they will send you new unit not a refurbished even though they were refurbs to begin with.
I also called Verizon tech support and they claim that if you go in store for an exchange they can only give you new phones as they don't stock refurbs. If however you make a claim over the phone They will send you refurbished units. Avoid that at all costs if you are in your 14 day return window.
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Was the Droid X that long ago? I loved that phone.
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I keep every phone I ever had in my desk as a little museum. I still have my BlackBerry Pearl..the first must have phone all my friends ran out and switched too, the iphone wasn't the first. But the Droid X was the phone I got when I left T-Mobile just to secure unlimited data. When the iPhone 4 was announced still without 4G, I was Android do good.
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I keep every phone I ever had in my desk as a little museum. I still have my BlackBerry Pearl..the first must have phone all my friends ran out and switched too, the iphone wasn't the first. But the Droid X was the phone I got when I left T-Mobile just to secure unlimited data. When the iPhone 4 was announced still without 4G, I was Android do good.
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I sell mine as soon as a better phone is released. That's how I get to try every new phone that will work on Verizon.
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i'm not sure how you got so far as to preorder on the phone then schedule an in store pick up. I called about 3 times before actually going through with a purchase on my UDP line and making sure every questions was answered. I then proceeded to get the phone picked the phone and color then the person couldn't proceed. I was then transferred and they clearly explained to me the deal after again trying and not being able to proceed while keeping the UDP line. I then had to wait til my pay period ended. 3 days later I went to the store and did the actual DPP on my UDP line.
Sorry you had a bad experience. I usually avoid the stores at all costs.
I've had generally good experiences with Verizon stores, but tend to do my business online, simply because I don't have to worry about being pushed or "pitched" anything. Recently, my wife's LG G4 was caught in a bootloop (showed LG logo, then went black). After 3 store reps fiddled around with it trying to factory reset it (BTW, it said "Modified" on the menu, but none noticed that fact!) As one of them was processing the warranty replacement, another guy walked into the store with a G4 and it was doing the exact same thing! Anyway, I asked them if there was anything else I could do since my wife wanted to take photos for Christmas (this was on the 23rd) and the replacement was shipping 2-day. They did offer for me to buy a new phone, but her G4 is 6 months old. Anyway, they seemed very helpful to me and I've never experienced what the OP did--doesn't mean it can't happen, but I would say it's rare.
As a small side-note to my story, I happened to be shopping at BJ's Wholesale during the day on Christmas Eve. In the store, there's a Verizon Kiosk, which is actually run by Diamond Wireless. EVERY SINGLE TIME I've done anything through them, they've been amazing. I guess it actually helps to have some degrees of separation from VZW! I told the guy what happened to my wife's phone. I asked him if I could buy a phone, then return it within 14 days without being worse for the wear--which he confirmed. He then suggested I "buy" the V10 as it has a better camera, etc. Since VZW had already issued a warranty replacement G4, he said they couldn't cancel it, but he suggested that I do a "buddy upgrade" (I have 3 total lines eligible), which I did. Unfortunately, my employee discount doesn't allow payment plan, so I was out $300 temporarily. HOWEVER, LG is giving a $100 rebate (Visa Gift Card). Then on top of that, the replacement G4 that will arrive shortly will be all mine--I'm hoping to sell it for at least $200, so I will break even in the long run. The Diamond Wireless guy walked me through everything, answering all my pesky questions and ensuring everything was done properly. The best part is that my wife has an amazing new phone and took many great Christmas photos with it. I like the phone so much, I'm thinking of switching to a V10 myself... I may wait to see if/what HTC releases next (usually March) and if it doesn't suit my fancy, I'm a new LG V10 owner.
Hell yeah the VZW stores are shady! I had to call CS for 3 months to get a 50 dollar credit I was assured was coming to me. I've jumped from Verizon since then, same bull**** just different source at this point
My experiences have been just the opposite. The instore folks have been so helpful. The telehelp people were clueless about all the discounts on my account and completely jacked everything up. The store manager did some creative genius and my account got fixed. His creativity cost me $35 but it saved me over $1,000 in the end. Everytime I've been in to the store I've had great experiences. I've been in so much recently that I practically know all the employees by first name. (Lots of $300 trade-ins of $10 phones. Thank Vzw!)
I'm not trying to negate your negative experiences as I've seen upset people in the Vzw store every time I've gone in. I understand your frustration and writing the letter was probably very therapuetic. However, sending it probably won't make one bit of difference. The stores are meant for one purpose and only one purpose, sign up new accounts and do phone upgrades. They aren't there to do exchanges like Walmart. If they give you a new phone then that means there's one less new phone in the store to sell. Verizon is a business in business to make money. Exchanging a phone doesn't bring them any new money. Like it or not, that's the facts jack.
If you haven't sent the letter yet then don't bother. You'll probably get a nasty note added to your file.
Op.
You are whats wrong with america, everytime you think you have been wronged in the SLIGHTEST way, You go cry to the better business bureau or aaa or fbi cia dea, obama, whoever will listen to your little violin playing at your pity party.. ...big red is a big companh, they dont give 2 f's about you or your opinion, and neither does the government agency who has their contracted service through big red... Play the game, or get pegged as a pest...and then treated as such
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I'm about send a six page letter to the Verizon VP of retail operations and customer service.
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You can stop right there. Your post here is already tl;dr.
Time to do some serious editing. Ideally, you'll parse it down to a single page. Two pages is the max.
Beyond that, you're into serial killer manifesto territory. The only reason anybody will read beyond the second page is to see if you're just a kook, or if you're actually a threat and they need to report you to law enforcement.
Itt: people who don't know what a sales quota is,so they're surprised a corporate verizon rep is only concerned with a sale. Their quotas are so high their jobs are quite frequently on the chopping block if they take time to actually help customers with issues like this.
It sucks, but that's why I usually go to authorized retailers instead.
There's always two sides. Funny thing is 97% of the shadiness I've seen from T-Mobile AND Verizon was to benefit me. You probably come off as pretentious and entitled over the phone, same as in text.
Sorry you had to go through all that nonsense but its true if its a Corporate store they do not care about customer service I have experienced myself and have been lied to also , its much better to go thru a 3rd party where they will treat you better or customer service and since all the nonsense with corp stores I always avoid them would rather get the phone on ebay or amazon or even craigslist before I go to a corp store cuz all they are interested in is sales vs customer sevices and I have many friends and family memebers with Verizon that have had bad experiences so I beleive you sir and its a shame that it happens cuz they are a huge corp that should not be acting like that and should try to make the customer happy even though there are some customers out there that are worse than the employees cuz they expect to get their way cuz of that stupid saying "The Customer is always RIGHT" which is also aload of bs,Anyways it works both ways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!