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Thought I'd post a contrary opinion (based on many of the threads here and on other sites).
I REALLY like my NT! I've come up Handsprings, Palms, Pres, and iPads, so this isn't my first visit to the rodeo. Currently, I've got the NT and a Sprint Evo 3D.
Yes, out of the box there's some gaps, but a bit of time here and other forums have offered suggestions on side-loading, sync'ing my Evo apps, and tweaking the KT. It's not the end-all-and-be-all pad,but for the price, it does well.
The biggest issue I had was the lack of offline media, since I spend 12-15 hours a week in the air. However, a bit of cross-syncing and I've got my Amazon MP3 library and a couple of pretty good media players.
Am I missing things? Well, I'd really like bluetooth for my freedom keyboard and being able to see my side loaded apps from the main launcher would be nice, but at this moment, I'm finding the KT to be a fine investment.
Oh, and I have moved my new media purchases over to BN. I figure tossing them some bucks only encourages them to keep Nook development going.
I'm really happy with mine too. Its super snappy, feels much more polished than the nook color did. Plus I love reading and reading is an absolute pleasure on this thing.
I absolutely adore my NT, granted its my first tablet, but its ridiculous how much i can do with it for the price i paid. Not to mention it hasnt even been rooted yet!
Ok, I have to ask because I keep seeing things go back and forth:
If one could get a NC or NT for the same price (hypothetically), which would they choose? The rooted NC? Or the "upgraded" NT?
I currently have the NC and I can get my gf to get me a NT for christmas bc she wants my NC. Is it worth the trade?
Well, since I haven't found too much I couldn't do without a touch of effort, I'm not feeling the pain of not being able to root. Sure, it may come later, but, yeesh, I've only had the NT for 3 days!!
preppyr6 said:
Ok, I have to ask because I keep seeing things go back and forth:
If one could get a NC or NT for the same price (hypothetically), which would they choose? The rooted NC? Or the "upgraded" NT?
I currently have the NC and I can get my gf to get me a NT for christmas bc she wants my NC. Is it worth the trade?
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The nook tablet. The difference in speed alone is worth it, the nook color felt underpowered to me even rooted.
Ditto.
On paper, the specs are simply hardware upgrade...this much B&N got it right. In reality, it makes the the device more responsive and more enjoyable user experience. The jerky delay in NC drove me nuts.
I have owned the xoom, asus transformer, galaxy tab 10.1, htc flyer and got rid of them all. The one reason? The tegra 2 processor. These devices were hamstrung in the video playback department, a fundemental functional of a media tablet. The NT plays the same hd media files i couldn't on these high end devices FLAWLESSLY. If you ask me this alone makes the nook tablet worth it.
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My tablet history has been:
Viewsonic Gtab (Awful. Just awful. Don't ever even look at one)
Nook Color (1.1ghz OC and still slow to my tastes)
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (The designer of the Tegra 2 should be impaled as punishment)
Nook Tablet (It does what I wanted except run Google stuff)
What I had wanted was to watch 720p shows in bed or plane or between classes. NT has been the only thing that could do that except my phone (SGS Fascinate).
Even without a root ever coming to be and having to deal with sideloading I still think this is the best tablet I have ever owned. And it's made by a damn bookstore >.>
There some flaws but I bought it mainly for browsing the internet. It really excels at that! I have mainly been using dolphin, not the stock browser. Overall I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. I was at Best Buy today and checked out the kindle fire. It was cool but I really didnt like size of it. I have big hands and like how now matter how i hold my nook its always comfortable. The only thing I really want to change is the crappy keyboard
About the not seeing sideloaded apps, I installed go launcher. From there I use a combo of widget locker, Wave launcher(right side of the screen), and button savior( left side of the screen). I also learned to fear the nook button. I havnt seen the stock nook launcher in over a day now.
Drewmungus said:
There some flaws but I bought it mainly for browsing the internet. It really excels at that! I have mainly been using dolphin, not the stock browser. Overall I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. I was at Best Buy today and checked out the kindle fire. It was cool but I really didnt like size of it. I have big hands and like how now matter how i hold my nook its always comfortable. The only thing I really want to change is the crappy keyboard
About the not seeing sideloaded apps, I installed go launcher. From there I use a combo of widget locker, Wave launcher(right side of the screen), and button savior( left side of the screen). I also learned to fear the nook button. I havnt seen the stock nook launcher in over a day now.
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I have noticed that using the n button in certain situations (ex: during video in MX Player, certain games) it acts as a back button. Don't fear the n just treat it like a very "special" friend.
I've driven twice to a B&N store and played with the device. As of right now, I still haven't taken the plunge because of three big reasons:
1) I need a web browser that can let me access an Extranet of my work place, and when I used the NT stock browser, the login page button doesn't even show up as a button, but just a jpeg. I know using the Android stock nameless browser, it isn't a problem at all. So it's a huge issue for me.
2) Even if I can get the web browser issue resolved, I am fearful how B&N has the unilateral ability to update the NT without our consent (unless specifically block B&N incoming traffic), we'll lose the ability to sideload and send us back to stone age. (It wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
3) The 1gb user content space wouldn't an issue if we can root it, but now it seems like a huge deal. (Again, it wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
Are my concerns legitimate? I firmly believe the NT could be huge, but right now, we just need to be patient and let our devs gurus find an exploit, or somehow we can get B&N to loosen up the grip on the bootloader.
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I've driven twice to a B&N store and played with the device. As of right now, I still haven't taken the plunge because of three big reasons:
1) I need a web browser that can let me access an Extranet of my work place, and when I used the NT stock browser, the login page button doesn't even show up as a button, but just a jpeg. I know using the Android stock nameless browser, it isn't a problem at all. So it's a huge issue for me.
2) Even if I can get the web browser issue resolved, I am fearful how B&N has the unilateral ability to update the NT without our consent (unless specifically block B&N incoming traffic), we'll lose the ability to sideload and send us back to stone age. (It wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
3) The 1gb user content space wouldn't an issue if we can root it, but now it seems like a huge deal. (Again, it wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
Are my concerns legitimate? I firmly believe the NT could be huge, but right now, we just need to be patient and let our devs gurus find an exploit, or somehow we can get B&N to loosen up the grip on the bootloader.
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Well, issue 2 is definitely legitimate. Issue 1, just go to the store and install dolphin on one of their nooks, see if you can login to work.
Issue 3, if the rumors are true that they will be able to repartition the space in a week or so then, well, not an issue.
if the nook tablets bootloader is truly locked, then say good bye to ever, ever seeing a beautiful custom kernel on the nook tablet to perform tweaks such as overclocking. This also makes it difficult to create custom roms. cyanogenmod 7 is a possibility with 2nd init. cyanogenmod 9 is also a possibility, but unless official ics is dished out to the nook tablet, then we will get cyanogenmod 9 2nd init with gingerbread libs.. Someone should send a rather nasty note to barnes & noble about this.
Re: 1GB usable - It's a legitimate support issue. You (and everyone concerned) should call support and light a fire.
Front-line grunts won't be able to help you (a good thing), so ask to escalate it to as high as you can go. Your first response will be to get the tech's name. Your last response will be, "I'm sorry you can't help me with this issue. Please refer me to someone who can. If no other tech is available, please let me speak to your manager."
Don't get discouraged if you get blown off or hit a dead-end. Redial and retry. Social engineering is about patience and persistence. Always be polite, but firm.
Once you get to someone who knows his bits and bytes, then soften your tone and get friendly. Talk shop. Use the occasion to ask about other techy things, like, eh, locked bootloader. Get whatever info you can, including the dude's extension number so you can call him back.
The strategy is to leverage a legitimate support issue to get info about the things you really want to know. To do that, you'll have to troll their support services, and have some social engineering skill. It's probably best done in a team, but you can be the Lone Ranger if you're good.
BTW, techsupps have scripts, and you should have one as well. Plan everything you want to say in advance, and type them out.
Anyway, at the very least, you will get the 1GB issue logged and escalated.
I honestly don't think they're going to bother blocking this loophole. There's really nothing in it for them but bad press. Currently they can sell a tablet to regular folks, while at the same time offering a tablet that's also appealing to techie types (but without having to advertise it). There's really no advantage in blocking the loophole.
Also I'm wondering: is there NO way to block updates from Barnes and Noble? No way to tell the device to notify before actually updating? I understand that B&N will push out updates without any warning, but isn't there a way that WE can decide to accept them or not? Or is it really just totally out of our hands?
to whooever it was who thought the HTC flyer was running a tegra 2: it's not. It's a 1.5 ghz single core.
So far, the t2 seems fine in conjunction with mx video player and the software decode on the things I've tried it on. but I'm not mostly using a tablet for video, so the fact that a PAL formatted disc image I have makes trouble is ok by me. I will say, though, that the single core chip in the Samsung media player seems faster than the t2 or the (admittedly brief) run I took at an NT this evening. I didn't walk out of BN needing desperately to replace my NC, though - manual nooter, 1.1 ghz kernel, seemed relatively comparable to what I saw, but I wasn't ready to actually test carefully.
The NT is rooted as of today, via zergrush. This should make it possible to redo the partitioning. The bootloader's another issue; I don't know if anyone has tried looking at putting the little guy into fastboot and seeing if oem unlock is an accepted command. It may be. Unlocking it may turn off Netflix support, but it should open up avenues for complete custom ROMs.
On blocking OTA updates: probably fairly simple. D/l the OTA and look at the build id strings in build.prop. Update build.prop on your device accordingly. I've blocked the 1.3 update this way, and it works great.
It will probably not work cleanly for blocking the 1.4 update, though, if that's a Gingerbread update, since to get the block you probably have to tell the device not just that it's running the current BN build, but that it's also running a Gingerbread vintage OS - but I don't know about that.
There are some sqlite hacks for blocking updates as well - setting an autoupdate flag to "false," basically. I'm not sure how well they work, but blocking the update is always a topic of discussion immediately after one's released and no one's figured out how easy it is to pop yet
My real question on the NT is whether it contains a complete recovery image. Very few Android devices are as idiot-proof as the NC. Most of the "recovery" modes I've seen don't offer the ability to return the device to a true stock state. The NC, at least, is fully recoverable.
To me, that makes the NC one of the most useful Android platforms out there, and if the NT can't do that, then it's not really much of an upgrade for me -- I screw things up. Often. Badly.
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My real question on the NT is whether it contains a complete recovery image. Very few Android devices are as idiot-proof as the NC. Most of the "recovery" modes I've seen don't offer the ability to return the device to a true stock state. The NC, at least, is fully recoverable.
To me, that makes the NC one of the most useful Android platforms out there, and if the NT can't do that, then it's not really much of an upgrade for me -- I screw things up. Often. Badly.
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I'm fairly certain that it does have a full recovery image imbedded somewhere. Yesterday I tried in stalling Chainfire (which apparently messes with the filesystem) in order to get full access to the GPU and fool the market, making all apps show up. After installing it, which required a reboot, my NT went into a boot-loop. I could not power it off and with no recovery available I thought I was toast and out of $260. However, after many (10?) failed boots it automatically went into Factory Reset mode and did a complete wipe.
I'm not sure how deep of a tailspin this recovery can get you out of but there is definitely a safety net there.
I have to agree with the OP. I am very happy with my NT. It is very snappy and with the ability to sideload apps I have been able to fill in what I feel was missing. Battery life on this is very good. I did buy this hoping I could boot off an sd card, but if it ends up not possible I will still be pleased with my investment.
B&N has announced 1.41 will be automatically rollling out to Tablet starting yesterday actually and early reports indicate it prevents sideloading of non B&N apps.
Is there a known method to block the 1.41 update?
Thanks!
Required Apps:
- Root Explorer (in market)
- SQLite Editor (in market)
Process:
1. Open Root Explorer
2. Open devicemanager.db from (/data/data/com.bn.devicemanager/databases/devicemanager.db)
3. Select "registry" - this should open up a spreadsheet looking file
4. Find row: com.bn.device.fota.mode
5. Drag over to the column labeled "value"
6. Press and hold "auto" until the "Actions" window pops up
7. Select "Edit Field"
8. Replace auto with manual
9. Select "Save"
not my post just info from forums how to block otas the easy way.
source that an update is coming to the Nook Tablet? And source for these early reports?
Only updates I'm seeing are for the Nook Color.
It has been posted on the official Barnes & Noble community forums.
hxxp://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/t5/NOOK-Tablet-General-Discussion/Software-Update-1-4-1-posted/td-p/1242366/jump-to/first-unread-message
Well, if that's the case I'll probably be giving up the NT and will let the school I work for have it to go along w/their 5 NCs.
The update does indeed close off the installation of 3rd party apps. I'd post a link to it but it won't let me.
before everyone starts jumping off the wagon, how about someone verifies if they've received their update, and then attempts to sideload. there's nothing on there that CONFIRMS it, just speculation.
So can anyone actually confirm that changing the "com.bn.device.fota.mode" from auto to manual actually works and that it successfully blocked the 1.41 update?
I've seen a lot of threads about using that method, but no actual posts about whether it works or not. Just a lot of mentions about how theoretically it should, etc.
I made the change I've got my fingers crossed that my nook won't update, but I won't know for sure until I'm back home where there's wifi. Until then, just wondering if anyone out there can confirm that this method of blocking OTAs actually works.
Official info at
barnesandnoble.com/u/Software-Updates-NOOK-Tablet/379003187/
jimmysuggs said:
So can anyone actually confirm that changing the "com.bn.device.fota.mode" from auto to manual actually works and that it successfully blocked the 1.41 update?
I've seen a lot of threads about using that method, but no actual posts about whether it works or not. Just a lot of mentions about how theoretically it should, etc.
I made the change I've got my fingers crossed that my nook won't update, but I won't know for sure until I'm back home where there's wifi. Until then, just wondering if anyone out there can confirm that this method of blocking OTAs actually works.
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Yes, that's the 64k question. Hoping we have a volunteer who is willing to take the risk. Apparently this is an automatic update with no prior warning and you are not prompted whether to accept or deny the update.
If mine does update, I think I'll be restoring and returning.
Very kind of Barnes and Noble to extend their return window for the holidays.
For anyone who hasn't seen that info yet, here ya go:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/help/help_cds2.asp?PID=37128
Yes, I can personally confirm that the update does indeed disable sideload apps. It also removes root access.
Just to confirm, my sideloaded apps still work, they just made it so you can't install any new ones...
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Just to confirm, my sideloaded apps still work, they just made it so you can't install any new ones...
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Well this is good news anyhow.
I'm not suggesting that I'm in any way pleased with this turn of events, but it's good that we can at least continue to use the apps we've already installed.
And with any luck, otas will be blocked via the fota method and this will all be moot.
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Just to confirm, my sideloaded apps still work, they just made it so you can't install any new ones...
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Did you try to to use anycut or a shortcut to the app menu to see if the option to install from unknow sources is still there?
This is from the B&N forum.. about the update.
I can tell you one thing that was fixed. My Nook is NOT rooted, but I have installed GoLauncher on my Nook and have the Amazon store. After the update, I can still open this home screen in the usual way and even have an app that opens up that launcher instead of Nook when pressing the "n" button. I can still open up the Amazon Market, HOWEVER, when attempting to install apps from Amazon, I now get an error message that says, "Install blocked. For security reasons, only apps purchased through the NOOK shop can be installed".... ARGHHHH. Very little in the Nook market is free, but many things in Amazon are.
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The update allows previously sideloaded apps from the amazon app store to continue working, but it prevents you from sideloading additional apps.
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I have yet to unwrap the nook as I bought it for christmas.. Question is can I root straight out of the box, before I get this update?..
I was so excited about the Nook purchase, now I feel that a return is needed using the extended christmas return policy for present purchasing.. I guess I will need to, if I now am unable to root..
I wasn't even going to root, I was going to be content with side-loading. Now I fear I can do neither..
The glitter is gone of my christmas present!
Well, if they plugged that hole, then mine is going back. Sorry, it's bad enough that the bootloader is locked, and I give all the credit in the world to the developers working on cracking this, but it's bull****. I've been holding off returning it because it at least does what I want it to do now.
If for some reason, I screw something up and need to do a restore, I'm not going to be **** out of luck with a nook tablet that I can't put my most used apps onto.
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And don't get me wrong, as a person who works in Finance, I TOTALLY understand this move on B&N's part. It's just that now the device no longer fits my needs.
Eh, worse come to worse, people can just throw their tablets on ebay or craigslist. They won't get full price but they'll do pretty well. I see it as basically renting the tablet for the time you have it. Nice while you have it, then get as much as you can for it and move on.
2012 will be the year of the tablet and in 6 months there will more 7 inch tablets on the market than anyone will know what to do with. They won't all be great, but there will be enough good ones that we won't have to settle for a ridiculously locked down device like the nook, just to get decent battery life and expandable storage, etc.
I think Barnes and Noble are gonna find out that if you want the tablet market, you have to actually release a tablet that's comparable with everything else out there. B&N is not Apple. They actually have to work to win customers. And this sure as hell isn't the way to do it.
So if the answer is to return, can anyone recommend a tablet (not kindle) that is around 350.. Sigh, I prefered this size to a 10" but guess I can not get the best of all worlds.. Iwill live with inconvient size to rebel against control.
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Well, if they plugged that hole, then mine is going back. Sorry, it's bad enough that the bootloader is locked, and I give all the credit in the world to the developers working on cracking this, but it's bull****. I've been holding off returning it because it at least does what I want it to do now.
If for some reason, I screw something up and need to do a restore, I'm not going to be **** out of luck with a nook tablet that I can't put my most used apps onto....
And don't get me wrong, as a person who works in Finance, I TOTALLY understand this move on B&N's part. It's just that now the device no longer fits my needs.
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I agree. Bought three of these as family gifts because I could sideload easily without rooting. I rooted my NC, but have no interest in doing and managing that for 4 family NTs. We will have 4 that will go back because they, again - no longer fit with our needs.
Hi Ive been trying to root my Nabi 2 tablet to access the Google Play Store. Ive downloaded ADB and followed instructions, Ive also got the correct drivers etc, when i ran the root tool by jmz I chose option 1 and it ran through the process, is there anything else I need to during during this as I then booted up and it was just the same as before?! Im normally an apple fan and experienced in jailbreaking etc but this is my first android as Im trying to exchange all my apple devices for android lol. Can some help me find a step by step full tutorial as Ive been trying to follow the one in this link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1905674 but I cant understand what else I need to do?! Thanks in advance
Anybody?! JMZTAYLOR if you see this can you please write a quick tutorial on what I need to do as Im clearly doing something wrong. Its probably just something so simple Im missing?! Any advice would be highly appreciated, sorry if this post is extremely noobish Im normally very adaptable!
Any Luck?
I was just wondering, it's been over a month with no post here. Did you get it working? If so can you post your solution or a link to the thread with the solution you used?
Not sure about the root tool for your device, but any good root tool will install a superuser app, such as Superuser:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su
Not sure if you got your issues sorted yet but if you go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905674 I am sure someone could help you. I just rooted 2 in about 20 minutes over the weekend. Good luck
There's no need to root the nabi for the play store...
http://everythingnabi.blogspot.com/2012/08/googlie-booglie.html
Interesting, except for step 21:
21. Do not update or attempt to install any apps, as it will force close the Google Play Store. The apk file installed is not fully functional on the nabi 2 Tablet. It does however allow for the purchase of Books, Movies and Music. The following pop-up will appear if you attempt to update or purchase an app.
If you root you will have a fully functional Play Story as well as text AND video on Google Talk plus many other features
christmas gift
My son is getting this for christmas. I know really all he cares about are the google play apps and youtube and other features that need this process in order for him to achieve his wishes... (whew)
anyway....
Any warnings that i should heed other than a voided warranty?
Has anyone heard of anybody bricking a nabi 2?
that would not be cool...
Thanks for any help
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robtics said:
My son is getting this for christmas. I know really all he cares about are the google play apps and youtube and other features that need this process in order for him to achieve his wishes... (whew)
anyway....
Any warnings that i should heed other than a voided warranty?
Has anyone heard of anybody bricking a nabi 2?
that would not be cool...
Thanks for any help
sent from my...blah, blah, just got a gs3/ used to have a captivate/ blah blah/ rooted an atrix once/ it died/
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Lol I rootedm3 no problems if u follow the steps
I want to get Google Play working on my son's Nabi 2 as well, but I'm pretty concerned over the touch calibration issue some people are having on the ROM thread about rooting it. I've only had one android device (my galaxy s2) and thought about rooting it, but couldn't find an overly compelling reason to do so. Now that the Nabi 2 needs it, I would be loathe to brick it/mess it up to get this calibration issue. Even if I try on my s2, this Nabi seems a tad different for some reason.
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I want to get Google Play working on my son's Nabi 2 as well, but I'm pretty concerned over the touch calibration issue some people are having on the ROM thread about rooting it. I've only had one android device (my galaxy s2) and thought about rooting it, but couldn't find an overly compelling reason to do so. Now that the Nabi 2 needs it, I would be loathe to brick it/mess it up to get this calibration issue. Even if I try on my s2, this Nabi seems a tad different for some reason.
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That is a very rare issue. If you root it and have a problem with the touch screen it only effects recovery software once it's rooted and gapps installed you won't have to go back to recovery.
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ravx25 said:
I want to get Google Play working on my son's Nabi 2 as well, but I'm pretty concerned over the touch calibration issue some people are having on the ROM thread about rooting it. I've only had one android device (my galaxy s2) and thought about rooting it, but couldn't find an overly compelling reason to do so. Now that the Nabi 2 needs it, I would be loathe to brick it/mess it up to get this calibration issue. Even if I try on my s2, this Nabi seems a tad different for some reason.
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It is indeed a rare issue, if the script goes fine, you shouldn't have to do anything in recovery yourself anyway. Here is the gapps.zip that fixes the 'android upgrading' on every boot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35888524
If you want a more manual approach, check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016463
It's written for Ubuntu, but the commands are easy to adapt for Windows as well. You install adb and fastboot differently and you remove 'sudo' from the commands.
Does rooting the Nabi2 get rid of the Monarch UI? All I want to do is get GApps on it, but I want to keep the Monarch UI for the kids.
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Does rooting the Nabi2 get rid of the Monarch UI? All I want to do is get GApps on it, but I want to keep the Monarch UI for the kids.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Thanks!
Do you really need Google Play?
Nabi 2 works great with Amazon App store (over 50,000 apps). Ex. Unless I installed Minecraft PE, my son would have 2 tablets for Christmas, his with no minecraft and mine with. In daddy mode you can get amazon and the installed apps are manageable in the add/remove to decide which apps to allow your child to see. PS: DO NOT add Amazon store to Nabi mode (unless your child is older, or unless your rich and don't mind your child maxing out a credit card on apps). Personally, I have jailbroken ipads for friends and rooted my last Motorola phone, but I wouldn't risk and consequences of screwing up your child's brand new tablet. You can go from Hero to Zero if you mess up.
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Lol I rootedm3 no problems if u follow the steps
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How do I get the Amazon app store on the Nabi 2? I can't find it in the nabi app store.
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epropr said:
Nabi 2 works great with Amazon App store (over 50,000 apps). Ex. Unless I installed Minecraft PE, my son would have 2 tablets for Christmas, his with no minecraft and mine with. In daddy mode you can get amazon and the installed apps are manageable in the add/remove to decide which apps to allow your child to see. PS: DO NOT add Amazon store to Nabi mode (unless your child is older, or unless your rich and don't mind your child maxing out a credit card on apps). Personally, I have jailbroken ipads for friends and rooted my last Motorola phone, but I wouldn't risk and consequences of screwing up your child's brand new tablet. You can go from Hero to Zero if you mess up.
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Have you heard of someone screwing up their Nabi2 from rooting/gappps?
Shine 52 said:
How do I get the Amazon app store on the Nabi 2? I can't find it in the nabi app store.
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Personally I would go ahead and root/gapps so you can have Google Play, use AdAway, etc etc.
Just be prepared to lose a bit more battery life when you install the Amazon app store. I have heard about it taking up a bit more battery due to licence checks, running in the background and such.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/get-appstore/android/
For some reason I can't download anything from the play store all of a sudden. It worked fine the other day, but today it gives me an error when ever I try to download a new app or update an installed app.
Sent from my fast as hell phone.
Does anyone know if there is a fix for the WiFi problem?
Also - stupid question - is it technically feasible to install the Play store without rooting?
Evening all,
Just been updated to OS 4.5.1 on 7" HDX, I can't seem to find a root for it as of yet. Does any one know if its available yet?
Thank you,
Clickbait title :/
Same here. My Kindle Fire HD 6 got updated to the same thing and I really want to try rooting it but there appears to be no way to root it
I'm in for a fix too.
even if this is bait thread, lets hope it will spark something that leads to it
Roll back to all devices updated to 4.x OS
stapler85 said:
even if this is bait thread, lets hope it will spark something that leads to it
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You have an option here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/rollback-to-devices-upgraded-to-4-x-t2946946
root for fire os 4.5.1 needed
Hello all,
I just got my hdx 7" today and unfortunately updated to 4.5.1 ota.
Is there anyone trying to find a way to root?
If any new root is known please tell me.
Would be nice to get access to google play store e.g.
Thanks a lot.
big_mika said:
Hello all,
I just got my hdx 7" today and unfortunately updated to 4.5.1 ota.
Is there anyone trying to find a way to root?
If any new root is known please tell me.
Would be nice to get access to google play store e.g.
Thanks a lot.
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You may be able to downgrade to a rootable version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/rollback-to-devices-upgraded-to-4-x-t2946946
People keep referring to this thread but I have contacted Amazon about 6 times now and all 6 people told me there was absolutely no way that they could or ever would roll back your software. All 6 said once you upgrade to 4.5.1 there was no way what so ever for them to take you back. I even got a couple of emails from there tech support team stating this. So no, customer care will not roll back your software.
I had a very unsucessful back and forth between like 12 different people at Amazon with no success. I even provided a few apps in their store that will absoutely not run in 4.5.x (Quicken 2013 for example) and they had no interest in rolling me back. Though I did not have them explicitly state that a rollback was impossible. They just apologized that their forced software update was causing me grief and to deal with it.
Possible way to root. Was reading info on this vuln CVE-2014-7911 and it seems like it might be a way that KitKat could be rooted. It was patched in Lollipop. Just thought I would share.
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cdub50 said:
Possible way to root. Was reading info on this vuln CVE-2014-7911 and it seems like it might be a way that KitKat could be rooted. It was patched in Lollipop. Just thought I would share.
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I did some reading into this, and it turns out we'll need a bit more than that to get root access (i.e. another exploit).
https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/com...android_50_privilege_escalation_using/cm6ylr9
My device is also updated to 4.5.1 .
After talking to the nice amazon support i came back not to set the device back.
nevertheless i have to wait until some of the xda guys will hack that too.
i got the nexus 7 before. so i have to say that the kindle hdx7 is much better then nexus7.
but it is crap within fireos there is no possibility to login to spotify with the google account. also on some other apps. thats really *hit.
loco09 said:
My device is also updated to 4.5.1 .
After talking to the nice amazon support i came back not to set the device back.
nevertheless i have to wait until some of the xda guys will hack that too.
i got the nexus 7 before. so i have to say that the kindle hdx7 is much better then nexus7.
but it is crap within fireos there is no possibility to login to spotify with the google account. also on some other apps. thats really *hit.
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The software really is the crippling factor, not the hardware. It's just sad that Amazon still can't see that and tries with every effort to lock down those that try to get around it.
whats the chance of upgrade?
Does anyone know what the chance of upgrade of 4.5.1 to stock android rom for fire hdx 7" and possible timeframe?
Is there anyone still working on it and are we just waiting for source code to try and find a way to unlock it.
I just picked up a fire hdx, but it came installed with 4.5.1 and the software is pretty unusable compared to my old jellybean tablet.
As a sidenote would it be worth trying to turn off ota updates so they are not kept ahead of any patch?
Damn this thread. I want my click back. lol
Man, I updated too, is there a way to turn off the automatic update?
rillo561 said:
Man, I updated too, is there a way to turn off the automatic update?
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After looking over the source code for the HDX Toolkit, for some reason I think the way it does it might still work on 4.5.1.
I had my tablet reset and installed from scratch yesterday. It restored my apps from my google account and both Netflix and Amazon Prime were installed.
Weird: Netflix was installed, but once I click on it, it says that it's incompatible with this version, please Update. I can't update, because it doesn't even turn up in the play store. Amazon Prime Video starts, shows available content in HD, a movie plays, but only audio, no video, just a black screen. DRM info said that it's L1 security, so everything should work in terms of DRM.
However, PlayStore says that the device is Uncertified. Disabling, clearing data and cache didn't make a change.
System Software is up to date and I have no idea where to start looking.
Just to make sure that this is not the culprit, I made a full reset of the device AND relocked the bootloader, so this should be a device like factory new.
Yet, PlayStore uncertified, no Netflix, black picture in Amazon Prime HD. I am really tempted to just throw this device out of the window.
DF5JT said:
Just to make sure that this is not the culprit, I made a full reset of the device AND relocked the bootloader, so this should be a device like factory new.
Yet, PlayStore uncertified, no Netflix, black picture in Amazon Prime HD. I am really tempted to just throw this device out of the window.
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Never assume relocking bootloader makes it stock.
Efuses and DRM keysxare common, and once they are blown/wiped, it's game over, you will never return to stock
CrazyPeter said:
Never assume relocking bootloader makes it stock.
Efuses and DRM keysxare common, and once they are blown/wiped, it's game over, you will never return to stock
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You do have something to back your assumption up with, say, facts?
What are the manufacturers, what supports your claim in term of engineer analysis?
Where can I read about it?
DF5JT said:
You do have something to back your assumption up with, say, facts?
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The fact that you've unlocked, relocked but Playstore says uncertified and you're having these problems?
Don't have a go at someone trying to help you out, fella. CrazyPeter is only suggesting the possibility that once you're unlocked, that's it: it's highly possible that "re-locking" doesn't undo something that's used by apps to detect non-stock. It's not for him to prove that's true, he's only trying to help. You should have done your own research before unlocking.
I'd been through this before too. If you unlocked bootloader, your tablet will fail safetynet test. Playstore wouldn't let you install or update netflix.
I tried relock bootloader and it passed safetynet, Netflix will come up in Playstore and allowed to install. It worked fine with HD streaming. You have to make sure to start from scratch and don't restore from backup after relock bootloader (which factory reset your device anyway)
I went with supposedly best solution, unlocked bootloader , stay with stock recovery and just fastboot patched ramdisk for magisk installation. In the end magisk would make your device pass safetynet and can install netflix and works fine. Also you can recieve an OTA update, and can always patch magisk again on new build.
Don't know about primevideo since I don't use t.
DF5JT said:
You do have something to back your assumption up with, say, facts?
What are the manufacturers, what supports your claim in term of engineer analysis?
Where can I read about it?
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2015/...have-efuses-and-why-should-i-care-about-them/
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3/DRM-Keys-Restore-after-Relock-Bootloader/td-p/890849#gref
oldpoem said:
.....I went with supposedly best solution, unlocked bootloader , stay with stock recovery and just fastboot patched ramdisk for magisk installation. In the end magisk would make your device pass safetynet and can install netflix and works fine. Also you can recieve an OTA update, and can always patch magisk again on new build.
Don't know about primevideo since I don't use t.
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This is the solution I followed when I initially unlocked my bootloader.
Hulu, Amazon Prime and Netflix all work.
whih device was this on?
a US device (WIFI only?) or an international/Chinese device with LTE/4G?
I am about to purchase a Chinese version in order to get LTE and I am wondering whether I will be unable to download and watch netflix?
I got my CMR-W09 (wifi) tablet today and I can confirm it plays Amazon Prime and Vudu in HD. I don't have an account with Netflix so I could not check it. The Vudu app shows that some of my movies in my wishlist are in UHD (4K). I did not check being I would have to pay for them.
Seems so bizarre to me that Google, Netflix, Amazon, etc., would be encouraging piracy by banning their paying customers from using the service. I'm honestly at a loss for words.
I had this issue on my Note 3, which can't pass SafetyNet as it's under my control, not Google's. When Netflix started requiring SafetyNet, I emailed for a confirmation. That was the end of our 9 year business relationship; I am no longer a customer.
I subscribed to YouTube Red, as (ironically) they still seem to value their engineering customers. However, should they follow suit, that business relationship will end as well, and I'll find someone else to spend my money with.
I know it can be tough, but I do encourage everyone affected by DRM to cancel their subscriptions, and take their business elsewhere.
If you do, just make sure you contact the company's Sales / Marketing team (definitely not tech support!). Explain to them in very clear, polite terms exactly why you'll be switching to their competitor, and that you'll be back if they ever decide to correct the situation.
I'm also completely stock (never been rooted etc) and exact same issues with Amazon Video.
Only thing that might cause issues is my ad blocker (Adclear), but having uninstalled that I have the same issue.
I'd be keen to know if you resolve as Google searches don't throw up much, and unfortunately the thread I started hasn't produced any solutions either!
So..... I was on the phone to Amazon support and was playing with my settings....
I use a "corner round" app to make the tablet screen more visually appealing - as soon as I disable it, Prime Video works!
So, if you have anything that creates a screen overlay, try disabling it and using Netflix / Prime video. Give it a try!
Best,
You guys know that huawei already made the update through OTA that netflix can run HD and prime video as well right?