My dear Canvas HD friends, Next time you boast about your Quad-Core processor to your HTC or Samsung friends, you might wanna watch your tongue. Because most branded phones come with a Cortex A9 or Custom ARM (Qualcomm Scorpion, Krait,etc.) processors. Whereas our Canvas HD has only a Cortex A7 processor. You may ask why? Well, that's because, A Cortex A7 based processor, even if it has the same clockspeed and Number of cores, When compared to a Cortex A9 based processor, the difference in architecture means a considerable difference in the performance of these processors.
Here is the comparisons.
A Cortex A9 is about 30% faster than a Cortex A7 processor. A Krait is over 70% faster than an A7 and a Cortex A15 is over 80% faster than an A7.
This means that a 1Ghz Cortex A9 processor is more powerful than a 1.2Ghz A7 processor and a 1Ghz Qualcomm Krait processor is more powerful than a 1.5Ghz A7 processor.
Our Canvas HD has MediaTek's MT6589 1.2Ghz Cortex A7 based processor. Not that it is slow. But you can compare it with other branded phones and know where it actually stands.
Source: How powerful is the new Quad-core Cortex-A7 MediaTek MT6589 processor? (check #7)
I was always wondering what's the difference between Cortex A7 and A9. I always knew something was missing. But my mind always chose to stick with Canvas HD is more powerful than Galaxy Grand. Today, I'm forced to accept the fact that Galaxy Grand (which is always compared with our Canvas HD), despite having only a Dual-core 1.2Ghz A9 processor, iis more powerful than a Canvas HD having Quad-core 1.2Ghz A7 processor.
More facts:
ARM's Cortex A7 is actually newer than A9. It is slower and more energy efficient than A9.
But, if you haven't noticed in galaxy s4.. even with a powerful processor like Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7, there is not much difference in the performance... but the htc one is amazing..
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ladiesman6 said:
But, if you haven't noticed in galaxy s4.. even with a powerful processor like Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7, there is not much difference in the performance... but the htc one is amazing..
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Galaxy S4 uses the Exynos 5 Octa-core processor. Although it has 8 cores (A Quad-core 1.6GHz Cortex-A15 processor + a Quad-core 1.2GHz Cortex-A7 processor), the phone uses only 4 at a time. A15 is powerful. Good for playing high resolution games. while A7 is energy-efficient. Good for Battery. So the phone uses the A7 processor most of the time and switches to A15 only when the pressure really increases. this is how it works. you won't see much difference in it's performance when you compare it with other phones, unless it starts running with it's A15 cores. :laugh: A15 is the most powerful processor in the market right now.
Source: Galaxy S4: Samsung's 8-core processor explained
HTC One having Qualcomm's Quad-core 1.7Ghz Krait processor is almost equal in performance compared to the processor of Galaxy S4. because Qualcomm's Krait is 10% slower than the S4's Quad-core 1.6Ghz A15 processor. Not just that, the S4 even has the upper hand here since it is also energy efficient with it's A7 cores. Samsung totally rocks.
But if you use a116 and galaxy grand u will see the difference! Grand lags a lot and the UI is slow and laggy! My sister and 1 of my friend bought grand and within 5 days it got so laggy dat they sold it off! And this was with no apps installed! Only whatsapp!
bulls#it ... cortex a9 is not powerfull.. mediatek didnt use a9 over a7 because a9 is just little more powerful than a7 .. bt a9 eats a lot of battery.. and a7 is power efficient yet powerfull... do you think why samsung use 4 cores of a7 instead of a9 for power efficiency???
and atlast all the krait cpus are a15.... .most powerfull till now..
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inder swami said:
bulls#it ... cortex a9 is not powerfull.. mediatek didnt use a9 over a7 because a9 is just little more powerful than a7 .. bt a9 eats a lot of battery.. and a7 is power efficient yet powerfull... do you think why samsung use 4 cores of a7 instead of a9 for power efficiency???
and atlast all the krait cpus are a15.... .most powerfull till now..
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A9 dual core is as good as a A7 quad core processor...
But u hv noted a good point that A7 is battery efficient than A9 .. just because of the architecture.. and as it consumes less battery it gives slightly less performance..
And IMO mediatek did not include A9 because that wud make cost high and their target audience needs cheaper phones..Not because they r bothered about efficiency
Not to burst your bubble but ultimately UI is extremely important to determine performance, not just processor power. I have used both Galaxy Grand ( of a friend ) and My canvas HD , let me tell you that the Grand cannot be compared to Canvas at all. I can easily multitask on Canvas while Grand stutters and stumbles towards the finish line. And Grand has just 200-250 MB free ram usually while canvas has 450-500. Just try this, Play a Heavy Game like NFS or Nova , and come out to message on Whatsapp or open another application. 90% of the time Grand closes the previous app while canvas still has it. So, DONT compare the processors, compare the performance as a whole.
P.S - Check Antutu benchmark on both Phones, thank you.
sagarkumar91 said:
Not to burst your bubble but ultimately UI is extremely important to determine performance, not just processor power. I have used both Galaxy Grand ( of a friend ) and My canvas HD , let me tell you that the Grand cannot be compared to Canvas at all. I can easily multitask on Canvas while Grand stutters and stumbles towards the finish line. And Grand has just 200-250 MB free ram usually while canvas has 450-500. Just try this, Play a Heavy Game like NFS or Nova , and come out to message on Whatsapp or open another application. 90% of the time Grand closes the previous app while canvas still has it. So, DONT compare the processors, compare the performance as a whole.
P.S - Check Antutu benchmark on both Phones, thank you.
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Coming from a nexus phone , specs don't really matter for common use ,as long as ui is close to stock any phone will rock. I think grand sucks at this due to Twiz ui put a asop on it and it will rock ; this is what mmx did with their ui that's why so our phone is more fluid then others.
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Grand VS Micromax
Lets be Fair enuf i brought my bro grand when it was newly launcher in india in month of feb ........
Wat I Found Remember both phones are runing on stock roms and are not rooted
Grand Duos OS android 4.2.2 With Touchwiz
Premium Look And feel
Lots of Sensors
Gps With GLNSS Locks Instantaneously
Aswme Twz Ui
Multi window ( awsme)
Con
Very Laggy
Restarts or Hangs After Often
Very Few Apps Supported ( For example games like real racing 3 and other subway surfer latest doesnt work)
This Grand Also Hangs with Other third Party launcher Like Apex and Nova
About
Mircomax A116 OS Android 4.2.1
Fluid Ui
Good looks
Faster Processor
good multi tasking
Games Run Very good leaving Few heavy games
Very Good Resolution Screen
Good App Support via play Store
Con
Very Bad Build Quality
Poor Quailty Screen Compare to OGS Glass in Xolo Q800 Wich Comes in far less price but with same spec
Bad Gps
Very Few Senors
No Magnetic sensors (i have magnetic sensor even in my samsung galaxy Apollo or i5801
Too Be Noted i tried Heavy launcher like Next launcher 3d with samsung like transition animation and also my Screen Is full of widgets also running heavy wallpaper which is My beach HD i haven't noticed and lag in micromax A 116
SO MICROMAX STILL BETTER COMPARED TO GRAND DUOS
I agree with that .. the only two major drawbacks I noticed about the 116HD , are one about the GPS it's too bad... takes a hell lot of time to work.. and then about the build quality... but the performance and battery backup is far better than I thought it would be...
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Bro any quad core soc (a7 or a9) will have an upper hand on dual core soc..
Both in terms of battery usage and speed. So comparing grand with chd is not done..
And 1 more thing canvas hd is a budget quad core device if u need premium experience then go for nexus we didn't said that our device is better than nexus 4..
So stop comparing. If u have enough bucks than go for htc, apple etc.. U are not forced..
Cheers..
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GRAND vs CANVAS HD
never go for numbers......its all about the user experience.....i am having both device for use (i own HD an my sis use GRAND) purchased within weeks...so as per my experience i can say CANVAS HD is better than GRAND in most of the fronts except camera and GPS (btw who use GPS on daily basis ???).... Grand is laggy as comapare to HD and most of the S features are just gimmick (rarely use,consume more battery)
My canvas HD is still smooth ...never face any lag while playing games (shadowgun,blood and glory,dead trigger,virtual tennis and lot more)
Grand do have samsung brand name with it but that brand name cost you 4-5k more.
tanmoyc said:
Lets be Fair enuf i brought my bro grand when it was newly launcher in india in month of feb ........
Wat I Found Remember both phones are runing on stock roms and are not rooted
Grand Duos OS android 4.2.2 With Touchwiz
Premium Look And feel
Lots of Sensors
Gps With GLNSS Locks Instantaneously
Aswme Twz Ui
Multi window ( awsme)
Con
Very Laggy
Restarts or Hangs After Often
Very Few Apps Supported ( For example games like real racing 3 and other subway surfer latest doesnt work)
This Grand Also Hangs with Other third Party launcher Like Apex and Nova
About
Mircomax A116 OS Android 4.2.1
Fluid Ui
Good looks
Faster Processor
good multi tasking
Games Run Very good leaving Few heavy games
Very Good Resolution Screen
Good App Support via play Store
Con
Very Bad Build Quality
Poor Quailty Screen Compare to OGS Glass in Xolo Q800 Wich Comes in far less price but with same spec
Bad Gps
Very Few Senors
No Magnetic sensors (i have magnetic sensor even in my samsung galaxy Apollo or i5801
Too Be Noted i tried Heavy launcher like Next launcher 3d with samsung like transition animation and also my Screen Is full of widgets also running heavy wallpaper which is My beach HD i haven't noticed and lag in micromax A 116
SO MICROMAX STILL BETTER COMPARED TO GRAND DUOS
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Dont compare micromax with samsung. Micromax just a bull$#it when it comes to after sell service. If ur phone got damaged they will take minimum 1 month to repair it and maximum i cant say. My canvas 3d touch screen got damaged 1months ago and I did not get it back yet. They sell such a bellow quality products that they even cant repair themselve, they just change jobsheet number and say that another problem arised while replacing touch panel. Micromax may give better phone in cheper rate but never compare it with samsung. And this kinda problem is not only mine problem. Google it, many customers are facing this kinda worst after sell service from micromax. In my case canvas 3d got damaged within 3months of buying it and I bought samsung as I dont know when I will get back my phone. As I have another samsung galaxy y duos which I had before i bought mmx and that phone was running 1 year without any problem. Samsung far better than micromax in quality.
on my own experience.. even s4 have quad core processor, games like Modern Combat 4 she cant handle it perfectly
sometimes it lags..
so the point is how great the processor is.. nothing comes so smooth all time.. nothing perfect but just better
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apenz147 said:
on my own experience.. even s4 have quad core processor, games like Modern Combat 4 she cant handle it perfectly
sometimes it lags..
so the point is how great the processor is.. nothing comes so smooth all time.. nothing perfect but just better
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Are u going to invest 10k cash for using a phone just for 3months? If yes then u can always go for micromax for better performance and if no then go for other branded phones.
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coolkoushik07 said:
Dont compare micromax with samsung. Micromax just a bull$#it when it comes to after sell service. If ur phone got damaged they will take minimum 1 month to repair it and maximum i cant say. My canvas 3d touch screen got damaged 1months ago and I did not get it back yet. They sell such a bellow quality products that they even cant repair themselve, they just change jobsheet number and say that another problem arised while replacing touch panel. Micromax may give better phone in cheper rate but never compare it with samsung. And this kinda problem is not only mine problem. Google it, many customers are facing this kinda worst after sell service from micromax. In my case canvas 3d got damaged within 3months of buying it and I bought samsung as I dont know when I will get back my phone. As I have another samsung galaxy y duos which I had before i bought mmx and that phone was running 1 year without any problem. Samsung far better than micromax in quality.
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i know about micromax service center i had to face this problem just within 15 after been delivered by snapdeal it was had hardware problem because of which they kept my phone for a month even h=had send many complains to micromax to [email protected] it was hell lot irritating but if we can leave the service center ghost of micromax and talk about user experience it is still lot better than samsung galaxy gand duos it is my personal experience as i have both the phone and used them
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i know about micromax service center i had to face this problem just within 15 after been delivered by snapdeal it was had hardware problem because of which they kept my phone for a month even h=had send many complains to micromax to [email protected] it was hell lot irritating but if we can leave the service center ghost of micromax and talk about user experience it is still lot better than samsung galaxy gand duos it is my personal experience as i have both the phone and used them
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Man when u r buying a phone which costs more than 10k u should always take care of after sale service and mind satisfaction which u will never find with micromax. I have once got trapped by this company thats why I know about them well.
hai friends with all the hype and expectations i brought an MT6592 chipset powered phone the phone details are
BRAND INTEX
MODEL AQUA OCTA
MT6592
MALI450 GPU
2GB RAM
16GB ROM
720PDISPLAY
13MP AND 5MP CAMERA
the phone performs well in all departments except in gaming section, the problem is when i play games like asphalt 8,gangster 4 vegas,nfs most wanted,i am not able to play these games in very high graphics mode i had rooted and installed cwm recovery and change many model numbers in build.prop to attain high graphics but yet not sucessful but there is no lag on gaming i am getting very high fps rate in all these games and very high benchmark scores ANTUTU-27830 NENAMARK2-60.3 FPS most annoying thing i was able to play all these games an mt6589 chipset powered phone on very high graphics mode and i know the gpu in mt6589 is power vr sgx 544mp gpu , but also in i9300 the international version of galaxy s3 i had played these games on very high graphics mode with out any problem is mali400mp is greater than mali450mp ,i dont no man is there any solution to fix this i can upload the phones any software content any one help me
Stock recovery image for intex aqua octa
jinishpv said:
hai friends with all the hype and expectations i brought an MT6592 chipset powered phone the phone details are
BRAND INTEX
MODEL AQUA OCTA
MT6592
MALI450 GPU
2GB RAM
16GB ROM
720PDISPLAY
13MP AND 5MP CAMERA
the phone performs well in all departments except in gaming section, the problem is when i play games like asphalt 8,gangster 4 vegas,nfs most wanted,i am not able to play these games in very high graphics mode i had rooted and installed cwm recovery and change many model numbers in build.prop to attain high graphics but yet not sucessful but there is no lag on gaming i am getting very high fps rate in all these games and very high benchmark scores ANTUTU-27830 NENAMARK2-60.3 FPS most annoying thing i was able to play all these games an mt6589 chipset powered phone on very high graphics mode and i know the gpu in mt6589 is power vr sgx 544mp gpu , but also in i9300 the international version of galaxy s3 i had played these games on very high graphics mode with out any problem is mali400mp is greater than mali450mp ,i dont no man is there any solution to fix this i can upload the phones any software content any one help me
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hi can any one help me to get stock recovery image for intex aqua octa because i rooted and flashed cwm recovery image and now there is system update that has been released and i could not update. plz help me. and usb otg also doesn't work on this device. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thnx.
fps meter
Hey jinish, install fpsmeter app and play asphalt and mostwanted, and post the average fps here, you should be happy if you get 25+ average fps on high graphics asphalt 8 because even nexus 7 2013 with adreno 320 gets 25 fps avg at high, asphalt 8 also has fps cap so it could be a reason ,silly mediatek never uses good gpus, they just focus on price, they should have included power vr sgx544mp3
hai friend iam from india once i was a proud owner of i9300 ,gaming and only gaming was the only major thing doing on my phone amd mediatek announced mt6592 octa core chipset with mali450mp4gpu i planned to buy a phone powered by this new chipset on this jan 14th i brought a phone called"INTEX AQUA OCTA" a phone with mediatek MT6592 chipset ,the problem is when i play games like asphalt8 and gangstar 4 vegas i am not getting high graphics like when i play these games on i9300. there was an option to change the graphics properties on the game itself but the high and medium graphics are faded out. i rooted and installed cwm recovery on my phone and changed several model numbers in build.prop to aquire the high option setting on these gamese to turn on at last the GT-I9505 MODEL NUMBER IN BUILD.PROP turned on the high garphics mod in game setting but iam not getting the graphics contents like i play these games on galaxy s3 i thought that mali 450 mp4 is better than mali 400 gpu
what should i do to get graphics like galaxy s3 on my intex aqua octa powered by mali450mp4 gpu where should i modify to get graphics like that any help will be accepted like dust of gold i can seny u any part of the rom of intex aqua octa the benchmarks are also very impressive on antutu it scores more than galaxy s4 and in nenamark2 i got 60.3 fps and in fps meter when i play games like asphalt8 or gangstar vegas i get average 45fps the specfications of intex aqua octa is
MT6592 OCTA CORE 1.7GHZ WITH MALI450MP4 GPU 700MHZ
2GB RAM 16GB ROM
6" 720P IPS OGS DISPLAY
ANDROID 4.2.2 JELLYBEAN
i got latest mali450 gpu drivers any one tell me how to implement thes new drivers on my phone
please guys help me pleseeeee
You have to restart your phone after editing build.prop and reinstall the game from play store, but first try editing build.prop and clear data of asphlt 8 from settings
Hmm
Having a low budget and willing for a high performance smart phone. Well samsung seems to be rude from custmers as its phone are mid range and low range devices are not good.
Micromax seems tobcome up with an solution
Micromax canvas a1
Specifications
1 -- 4.5 inch ips 480p screen
2 -- quad core 1.3ghz cortex a7 processor supported by 1gb of ram
3 -- android 4.4.4 upgradable to lollipop
4 -- multitouch support.
5 -- back 5 megapixel with led autofocus and front 2 megapixel
6 -- up to 7 hours of 3g talktime battery life.
7 -- most of the sensors ported.
8 -- mali400mp2 gpu also ported for better graphical perdormance.
9 -- OTG support and hdmi output also supported
10 -- 4 gb internal memory.
11 -- 720p video recording.
What else you want in just 6499 indian currency.
I think after knowimg this your next smartphone is definetly micromax canvas a1.
I don't know about how much the benchmark reflect
real life performance of device but this is interesting.
few day ago i was talking to my friend who has same phone redmi note 7 pro and he said that his older phone which was Xiaomi A2 was better performing in pubg.
i didn't agree because it has 512 gpu and redmi note 7 pro has 612 gpu so i told him that this gpu is updated and is better than 512, but then i started to compare both gpu on this website
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Adreno-612-vs-Adreno-512_9876_8778.247598.0.html
and i was surprised by the results
and the i opened 3dmark website to check and i found that in gpu performance redmi note 7s, redmi note 7, and Mi A2 perform better that redmi note 7 pro how is this possible or how this processor or gpu upgrade work in phones.
this is the link of 3dmark result of phones
https://benchmarks.ul.com/compare/best-smartphones?displaySize=3.0,13.4&search=redmi note 7
I think I am the right one to answer this. I own both devices, and trust me... Rn7pro is miles ahead in terms of cpu and GPU performance from Mi a2.
Your friend sounds like a tool. I don't know about the benchmarks, but pubg by default selected high settings in graphics on rn7pro. And also by default, you can go upto ultra fps settings without using any graphics tool for PUBG.
Whereas in mi a2, pubg selects medium fps and by default the maximum fps supported is high.
I play on ultra settings and the rn7pro maintains a steady 40-45 fps(goes upto 52 depending on the scene being rendered).
Also keep in mind that qualcomm's series 6xx processors are based on custom kryo architecture.
Snapdragon 675 even beats 710 and 712 in benchmarks. The reason is the fact that Snapdragon 675 is based on kryo 460 model. Google all this and you will come to know what these terms mean. Snapdragon 660 which powers mi a2 is miles behind both in GPU and cpu performance.