[Q] Has Verizon S4 Dev Dried Up? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

It's been awhile since I've been actively engaged in this forum, and coming back it seems like nothing is new. In general: no new ROMs, no updates for the existing ones, no 4.3, so new CM 10.2 nightly since 10/7...am I missing something?

Yes you are. Nitro just released his new 4.3 build 6 on his website today.

skinote said:
It's been awhile since I've been actively engaged in this forum, and coming back it seems like nothing is new. In general: no new ROMs, no updates for the existing ones, no 4.3, so new CM 10.2 nightly since 10/7...am I missing something?
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Beans just released build 7 if touchwiz is your flavor nitro's touchwiz ROM is rock solid though it's been a month. Hyperdrive is great Beanstalk is 4.3 and is sweet. Update just a few days ago.vanir is available and is also great. The PAC night lies are rolling and there is an excellent kanged aokp ROM updated pretty regular. Still active. Just not something new everyday. Outside of the roms releasing nightlies. I say it is still very active. Its not the Nexus forums by any means but I like my options. Sure I'd like more. Who doesn't.
Edit Dubbsy seems to have an interesting project with Oct OS
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is anyone still working on cracking the bootloader ? just wondering.

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is anyone still working on cracking the bootloader ? just wondering.
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I'd like to think so but I haven't really seen anything promising in a while. Seen a post some time back that eluded the devs who could crack this might have been turned off by the s4 community. I hope not. But if hashcode gets kexec cracked safe strap seems like an ideal work around.
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Until the s5 comes out (or another brand takes over in that gen) the s4 is THE most popular non-ios device on Verizon (or any other carrier for that matter) dev won't dry up until next gen
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Verizon Galaxy Note II Development...

I’ve been curious as to why development and rom builds have been so slow to come to the Verizon Galaxy Note II? I look at other carriers and see that they have a more extensive collection of ROMS available and was wondering why?
The reason for thisi is our devs have currently been working out keeping unlocked bootloaders on the latest update for some unfortunate people, And we are just getting started with the roms. FOr the best roms, let the devs work on their own pace.
Ill take quality over quantity any day
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Ill take quality over quantity any day
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I would have to agree. I've been using Clean ROM because I love the 5x6 Launcher. Thanks for the heads up though. I have been tied to the fourms every day just browsing waiting for new ROM releases.
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I would have to agree. I've been using Clean ROM because I love the 5x6 Launcher. Thanks for the heads up though. I have been tied to the fourms every day just browsing waiting for new ROM releases.
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From past experience, I've had a phone with many roms but most of them had their share of bugs which drove me away. I have used Scott's roms before the note 2 and his attention to detail and simplicity is unsurpassed, we are very fortunate to have him. We also are lucky to have CM builds pumping out as my former device waited over a year for just the beta.
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Really most OTA ROMS are not all that different.. Sure some have more options etc.. The real fun comes when AOSP is stable..
We just got official CM nightly's as of yesterday.. While there are a few things to work out with kinks here and there, the real fun has just begun...
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It will only improve. Verizon was late to the party with their variant and locked out the bootloader. Nobody is going to develop much on a device with locked bootloader. Also, it is true that devs have been busy helping us noobs.
I didn't think development would even be this fast. This is the best phone on the best carrier, so I assume development will continue. I am sure many people have a GS3 already, so won't be moving to this platform.
Speed up development by donating to a dev.
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Didn't someone just release a mod that a allows cross carrier roms?! Not to mention aosp is finally getting solid. Patience is a virtue, things are taking off.
I personally think the development on this device has been great. Better than I expected really, given the way Verizon tried to chase away users from this device with stupid things like the branding on the home button. At the end of the day I'm just happy with what we have. Could have been a lot worse without Adam.
If your that bored flash some N7105 base roms. Just don't derp and flash the radios for the other carriers. I am running SkyNote right now.
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Can someone point me to the thread where both radio files are? I downloaded VRALL4 but I want to flash the older one. Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108510
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smOBudda said:
I’ve been curious as to why development and rom builds have been so slow to come to the Verizon Galaxy Note II? I look at other carriers and see that they have a more extensive collection of ROMS available and was wondering why?
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I think one of the reason why is lack of stock functionality. The varieties of AOKP, Baked, CM, AOSP, Miui roms have been extremely popular and successful on other Google devices(varieties of these roms account for more than 50% of entire roms), but apparently not many people demand those roms on Galaxy Note2 because of lack of stock functionality...such as SPen, page buddy, other good motion functions, and etc, etc. I used to be a huge fan of AOKP roms while I was owning Galaxy Nexus, but after switching to GNote2, I never looked back. I wanted more of Samsung experience rather than Google.
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I think one of the reason why is lack of stock functionality. The varieties of AOKP, Baked, CM, AOSP roms have been extremely popular and successful on other Google devices(varieties of these roms account for more than 50% of entire roms), but apparently not many people demand those roms on Galaxy Note2 because of lack of stock functionality...such as SPen, page buddy, other good motion functions, and etc, etc. I used to be a huge fan of AOKP roms while I was owning Galaxy Nexus, but after switching to GNote2, I never looked back. I wanted more of Samsung experience rather than Google.
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I agree with this. I want to keep most of the stock functionality with the ability to mod. Hence why I love beans rom.

Jumping ship from the RAZR M.

Well I cannot take the RAZR M any longer. I am trading for a Inc4g in the next few days. Just wanted to say hello and look forward to coming back to the Inc brand. Also can't wait to see what is cooking in development. Justin's viper was the goto ROM on my inc2.
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welcome back to the incredibles! I remember you from the inc2 threads. although the razor m looks nice and has pretty good specs, motos have always been weird about development. unfortunately there isn't too much going on here. viper is good if you don't mind ics bc htc hasn't put out any official JB for our phone yet. mdmower is doing an excellent job of maintaining CyanogenMod for our phone. although there isn't any ''official'' cyanogen his unofficial builds are definitely as close to official as you're going to get
Welcome!
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welcome back to the incredibles! I remember you from the inc2 threads. although the razor m looks nice and has pretty good specs, motos have always been weird about development. unfortunately there isn't too much going on here. viper is good if you don't mind ics bc htc hasn't put out any official JB for our phone yet. mdmower is doing an excellent job of maintaining CyanogenMod for our phone. although there isn't any ''official'' cyanogen his unofficial builds are definitely as close to official as you're going to get
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Thanks man. Still waiting on guy to respond. Yeah I saw it was a little dead over here. I just miss sense. I get so bored of aosp style. Also I really despise the RAZR now that I own one. There is just something I can't get use tooomm
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Thanks man. Still waiting on guy to respond. Yeah I saw it was a little dead over here. I just miss sense. I get so bored of aosp style. Also I really despise the RAZR now that I own one. There is just something I can't get use tooomm
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we are not so dead, we have 3 sense roms, pizzuto venom and infernal 4+(my jelly bean sense attemp), we have pacman rom and cyanogen both from source and also we have some nice looking ports by cjen, also we have custom kernels (sense and aosp) by me too, some miui ports with ril broken just to try and i have more to release later, cyanogen builds are unofficial because of some issue of patents on them, htcs fault btw, i believe that when this gets fixed we will have official cm10 support again:laugh:, also believe me you dont know what a dead community is, when i got here they didnt have bootloader supoort and only had viper and other rom i cant remember, welcome to the community man enjoy,i believe we are growing bigger day by day
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we are not so dead, we have 3 sense roms, pizzuto venom and infernal 4+(my jelly bean sense attemp), we have pacman rom and cyanogen both from source and also we have some nice looking ports by cjen, also we have custom kernels (sense and aosp) by me too, some miui ports with ril broken just to try and i have more to release later, cyanogen builds are unofficial because of some issue of patents on them, htcs fault btw, i believe that when this gets fixed we will have official cm10 support again:laugh:, also believe me you dont know what a dead community is, when i got here they didnt have bootloader supoort and only had viper and other rom i cant remember, welcome to the community man enjoy,i believe we are growing bigger day by day
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Oh I do know what a dead community is like I said I came from the razr m forum lol. I picked up my inc4g tonight and it is mint. Can't wait to get around to unlocking the bootloader and rooting this little guy.
What does everyone recommend for bootloader htcdev or the other way?
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zax10 said:
What does everyone recommend for bootloader htcdev or the other way?
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I'd recommend checking out mdmower's script for bootloader unlocking.
Well good to know things are still going here. My Inc4g should be here tomorrow and I can finally get off this DroidX I borrowed from a friend. Been 2 months since my Dinc2 took a "bath"....
Im still hoping for a JB Sense release from HTC but my hopes are realistic so its nice seeing some good JB ROMs put here
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Well good to know things are still going here. My Inc4g should be here tomorrow and I can finally get off this DroidX I borrowed from a friend. Been 2 months since my Dinc2 took a "bath"....
Im still hoping for a JB Sense release from HTC but my hopes are realistic so its nice seeing some good JB ROMs put here
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im a sense fan too, i wanna get my 4+ rom fully working and im making a kernel for it, too much to do so little time :crying:, we should have official jelly bean soon, however i have realistic hopes too and started the rom, sense 5 boots too on this device btw, just did it yesterday
Well good to know I made a good decision about the Razr M. That was the other device I was considering but matching it up spec-wise with the Inc4g..
just seemed like Inc4g was the better device for the form factor.
No other device seemed to compare and I decided not to wait for the Galaxy S4 Mini.
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Don't get me wrong. The M is a great device. I just cannot get into Motorola. The UI lags like crazy. It is extremely difficult to transfer thing from internal to external memory. Also that gorilla glass screen scratched way to easy. My first day I scratched the screen while it was in my pocket.
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[Q] Where is the AOKP thread?

I saw on Android Police over the weekend that the AOKP Team has finally released Milestone 2 of their 4.2.2 rom and it now includes all the GS4 variants.
I was wondering when someone might be posting about how it's working for them.
Here's a link to the AP story: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...pad-like-ribbon-feature-new-devices-and-more/
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I saw on Android Police over the weekend that the AOKP Team has finally released Milestone 2 of their 4.2.2 rom and it now includes all the GS4 variants.
I was wondering when someone might be posting about how it's working for them.
Here's a link to the AP story: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...pad-like-ribbon-feature-new-devices-and-more/
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AOKP team is on rootzwiki. BMC is the official maintainer who is also on rootz primarily. The thread last I checked was under unofficial ports under the team section. It may have moved to official since I last checked. I stopped crack flashing everything when I actually released my 2 projects, been too busy to crack flash
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/41529-rom-422-aokp-jb-mr1-jfltevzw/
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AOKP team is on rootzwiki. BMC is the official maintainer who is also on rootz primarily. The thread last I checked was under unofficial ports under the team section. It may have moved to official since I last checked. I stopped crack flashing everything when I actually released my 2 projects, been too busy to crack flash
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I mentioned it simply because I saw the Android Police article. And yes, it has moved into the official line up of supported devices as of 7/21. I understand the AOKP home is rootzwiki but thought it should be mentioned here with all the rest of other ROMs being developed.
Thanks!
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I mentioned it simply because I saw the Android Police article. And yes, it has moved into the official line up of supported devices as of 7/21. I understand the AOKP home is rootzwiki but thought it should be mentioned here with all the rest of other ROMs being developed.
Thanks!
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Im curious on this as well as I saw the news today on it. I was waiting on CM to produce a stable version, but say this and thought it might be something to use in the mean time. Anyone have any experience with it?
Apparently it's available on goo?
However it says mr1 milestone-2. No dates. Is this it?
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Turns out this is milestone 2. Annoying thing is the 4g icon on themes don't really stick.
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Anyone else test this out .... would love to hear more feedback.
Why are so many people timid when it comes to installing ROMs?
Backup and flash. If you don't like it flash back. Easy peasy
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Go to the rootzwiki thread, look for BMc's 7/14 build. Has working IR blaster. It isn't officially supported, so it's not in the milestone. Nothing is noticeably different between his 7/14 and the official milestone.
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It's beginning to look alot like Nexus

This device is so underrated and is now becoming a real beast in the dev support community. We have AOKP, CM 10.2, Clean, Mallidus, Vanir AOSP, roms with more development showing up everyday. It may not be an offical "nexus" device, but with LOKI and root, it's beginning to feel that way. I came from the GNex and I remember the support that device got. I made the right choice!!
Yessir!!!! Let the good times roll
I am going to go and thanks all the Dev for coming here. =)
-LG G2
finally the whining about dev support will cease.
That happens evrytime a new phone is launched, its a powerhouse of a phone and devs were bound to love it
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hopefully same goes with the Japanese version...
Looking forward to it...
We now have Paranoid Android too It may not be a nexus, but since there's no chance of a nexus 5 on Verizon, I don't think I will miss it that much. The builds will soon get stable and we will be able to enjoy this device whether on a stock rom or an aosp one.
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We now have Paranoid Android too It may not be a nexus, but since there's no chance of a nexus 5 on Verizon, I don't think I will miss it that much. The builds will soon get stable and we will be able to enjoy this device whether on a stock rom or an aosp one.
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You kidding right? PA? Where do you find that? Source?
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You kidding right? PA? Where do you find that? Source?
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Its available for the verizon variant
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Wait a sec, where is AOKP?
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Wait a sec, where is AOKP?
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Based on AOKP with added features. Been running it since release. Pretty solid rom. Only for Verizon atm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46718403
Holy crap, did the floodgates open last night or what?? I could have sworn there were like 2 roms available yesterday and now the Verizon dev section is filled. Just AWESOME!! Despite the stock rom being pretty good as it is I'm so happy we have choices now on what we want to use.
Shoutout to all the developers joining the party on this massively underrated device. Thank you very much!!
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Holy crap, did the floodgates open last night or what?? I could have sworn there were like 2 roms available yesterday and now the Verizon dev section is filled. Just AWESOME!! Despite the stock rom being pretty good as it is I'm so happy we have choices now on what we want to use.
Shoutout to all the developers joining the party on this massively underrated device. Thank you very much!!
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It was pretty exciting yesterday. Nexus what!? I've already flashed several of them and they are very fluid and stable. I'm in flash addict heaven.
Hopefuly PAC-MAN gets released soon for the G2 :fingers-crossed:
I'm kind of surprised that people haven't figured out, that most custom roms are either based on CM or based on stock. We got CM and then people were able to port other roms.
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I'm kind of surprised that people haven't figured out, that every custom rom is either based on CM or based on stock. We got CM and then people were able to port other roms.
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What!? I think you are confused or maybe I misunderstand you. Vanir is AOSP and while AOKP may share many hardware repos I'm not sure I'd consider is CM based especially since the whole caf debacle. And by stock you mean based off LG ROM?
Many of the devs worked tirelessly together to bring these to fruition at the same time. I dont think any one dev or team can take credit.
we still dont have squat for tmobile =[
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we still dont have squat for tmobile =[
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It is rather odd. Coming from previous devices on Verizon, the tmo variants were always one of the first to get aosp builds going. It feels good to be on the leading end this time around but I know how you feel. I'm sure development for it will pick up soon.
Being from Europe and all I can't quite see why there are three (?) American models? What's the difference between the Verizon, att and tmobile versions?
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Being from Europe and all I can't quite see why there are three (?) American models? What's the difference between the Verizon, att and tmobile versions?
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There are actually 4 American models. Sprint currently doesn't have their section yet. It's just the sad way things are done over here. Carriers like to lock in their customers and each tends to offer a slightly different variant. Whether that be the slight difference in physical look or the type of radios included for a GSM or CDMA carrier, American carriers like to limit customer options.

[Q] Is Quincyatt (I717) Further Development Stopped/delayed/suspended ?

(Cross post from forum.cyanogenmod.com)
Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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Jamie you the man.
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stimur said:
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Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
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so what i am reading here is you have 6 posts. i understand that you cannot post in development yet, but that does not slow you from reading.
i am not a technical brainchild and lack the ability to understand some of the terminology, so you will have to give me a little leeway.
development may have appeared to have slowed, but take into consideration the age of our device and the rate manufacturers are producing devices. we may not ever get another official upgrade for our Note, but my phone has ran better in the last few months than previous 8 months. there are some brilliant folks out there working selflessly for us. you may not find much in the straight CM development department, but since release of 10.2/ 4.3 roms, it is much more stable than 4.2 ever was. it runs smooth and effortless with none of the random reboots which plagued 4.2.
now we have quickly bumped to the 4.4 development which is still in its infancy. give it time. there are 2 Alpha/Preview releases right now, with at least another in the works that i know of. my guess is someone will have a Beta or full release by the end of the week at the rate these guys go. cant hold me to it as i am just a recipient who benefits from their deeds. that's just my guess from what i see as far as their work pace.
so excuse me now, i have to put some Kit Kat 4.4 on my phone, which has only been approval to run official 4.1.2 JB.
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
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Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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Yes, thanks for pointing that out, I will try your builds.
I will be grumpy user, I promise
stimur said:
Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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as i said take the tour, take some roms for a test drive. i don't know what you consider your experience level is........
everything runs a bit different on everybodys phone. for example, the Carbon rom has lots of cool features, but it just doesn't seem to want to work on my phone. i just don't want you to label all roms on the basis of one. Hellybean runs great on my phone. there are some here that wont give a phone or rom time to settle in. they make so many tweaks and adjustments in a rapid amount of time, they don't know if there adjustments actually did anything.
so be patient......if its not compatible for your phone, you will probably know right away. if it works, give it some time. there are good and helpful people here. just try and help yourself first and read.
getting ready to slam some Kit Kat on my phone right now with Jaime's CM11 preview 4.
As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
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As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
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You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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Mechapanda said:
You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Yeah I know
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
stimur said:
So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
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More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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JamieD81 said:
More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
JamieD81 said:
All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Personally, I'm loving the AOSP feel of 4.4 in a way that I have never really cared for it in Android versions prior. The way Google now is integrated into the GEL is how I would use Nova Launcher to setup previous versions.
With it's super stability, I am really praying that you give us something akin to your Nexus or Evervolv roms...Hell if we can just get working TTS and Video camera on top of what you've given us with your alpha, I'm done...............
.......until my next phone.
stimur said:
oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
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What are you talking about? What strategy? What balance?
Devs are also users. Almost all of the devs work on the devices that they own. We may not have the quantity of devs for other devices, but we definitely have quality devs. I also have GTab 2, and LG Optimus and Galaxy S2 LTE, which I manage for my family. Some have very active devs, some don't, but they all have good devs.
I don't know what you mean by "enough attention from developers", but we are getting plenty from our devs even if we don't deserve them. Whatever we are getting beyond the official 4.1.2 is all gravy. Jamie's CM11 preview is running awesome, and I haven't tried Patch's 4.4 rom, but I expect the same.
What more are you asking for?

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