Hey Guys,
G2 has another feather in the cap, G2 tops the charts as best Android Camera Smartphone in Phone Arena Comparison. It matches iPhone 5S, though 1020 was omitted. So it pretty much confirms G2 is the second best camera phone in the market right now
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...One-Motorola-Moto-X-DROID-Ultra_id3447/page/8
amankapoor4 said:
Hey Guys,
G2 has another feather in the cap, G2 tops the charts as best Android Camera Smartphone in Phone Arena Comparison. It matches iPhone 5S, though 1020 was omitted. So it pretty much confirms G2 is the second best camera phone in the market right now
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...One-Motorola-Moto-X-DROID-Ultra_id3447/page/8
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Not only that! The LG G2 is also the highest rated smartphone in PA's (for those who might not know, PA is a popular mobile news & reviews site: PhoneArena.com) history with a score of 9.4 out of 10. The LG G2 beats the Samsung Galaxy S4 which was the previous highest rated smartphone. The only negative aspect of this phone (according to PA) is the lack of a microSD port. But if you get the 32 GB version, you're set. Many of the top smartphones don't offer external memory via microSD; HTC One, Apple iPhone, etc.
LG G2 on PA with specs and rating: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-G2_id7969
Can't wait for my 32 GB version to arrive next week
Sorry, but even as I own an LG G2, I cannot agree with PhoneArena. The LG G2 nighttime video is awful (shutter speed too low, heavy noise reduction, no details at all), and in daytime video there is constant autofocus hunting, as you can see (although the image is very detailed).
iPhone 5s is clearly the winner, it has no obvious flaws. And the G2 does not even come in second.
LG G2 camera produces outstanding results in daylight photos, this is true. But there are significant bugs in the video processing that need to be corrected via a software update ASAP. Even night time still photos suffer from too much noise reduction.
PS: I read that LG is PhoneArena's biggest sponsor.
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PS: I read that LG is PhoneArena's biggest sponsor.
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I hardly ever see an LG ad on their site when I go there. I see mostly Best Buy Mobile ads (mostly Best Buy ads for the S4 or iPhone)
Cst79 said:
Sorry, but even as I own an LG G2, I cannot agree with PhoneArena. The LG G2 nighttime video is awful (shutter speed too low, heavy noise reduction, no details at all), and in daytime video there is constant autofocus hunting, as you can see (although the image is very detailed).
iPhone 5s is clearly the winner, it has no obvious flaws. And the G2 does not even come in second.
LG G2 camera produces outstanding results in daylight photos, this is true. But there are significant bugs in the video processing that need to be corrected via a software update ASAP. Even night time still photos suffer from too much noise reduction.
PS: I read that LG is PhoneArena's biggest sponsor.
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Yeah i have to agree i really like the g2 but the camera has serious problems with focusing and shutter speed issues that badly affect picture clarity. I really hope that the camera issues are due to poorly optimized software and can be fixed in an update.
I just watched a few iphone 5s vids. Showing camera and video. The autofocus while recording on the iPhone is terable. So much blur when changing what your looking at. The photos are nice. It low light are about as in impressive as ever other phone. I'm well aware that my phone is a phone first, camera second. but, with a few tweaks here and there. this phone takes amazing photos and great video. Yeah it has its shortcomings so does every single phone on the market. Adjusting shutter speed and the iOS are the key features to great photos
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Totally agree G2 camera blows the other phones camera out of the water. Current only the new iphone and the new lumia phones can compete with the G2 regarding camera
I also think people might need to try to tap the screen on different portions of what they are taking a picture of. I learned quickly that the camera on this phone adjusts to room lighting AND the darkness/brightness of what you're taking a picture of.
So, if I'm in a bright room and I set the focus to something dark, THEN I get the washed out effect. But, if I'm in a bright room and I put the focus on something just as bright, then the camera adjusts to near perfection.
AND put it in reverse if I'm in a dark room. Set it to focus on something bright. (basically just tap the viewer on a bright or dark item and see how the camera will change automagically (I meant that word automagically lol)
That has helped me get much better pictures easily.
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Yeah i have to agree i really like the g2 but the camera has serious problems with focusing and shutter manually issues that badly affect picture clarity. I really hope that the camera issues are due to poorly optimized software and can be fixed in an update.
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Yea or you could manually focus like you don't need -50 DKP
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PS: I read that LG is PhoneArena's biggest sponsor.
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I am curious to see that article you read. Could you provide a link?
I've been a PA avid reader (i go through every single article or at least have a peek at the main ideas if i'm in a hurry) since a few years. The one thing that really put me off was permanent display of Samsung Galaxy flagship phones at the top of the page, right above the Featured Stories section. The Samsung Galaxy S3 got a permanent spot there for the whole year and eventually S4 joined its older sibling for a very lengthy stay in that bar, which qualifies as nothing short of advertisement for Samsung. It really got me riled up every time i saw the main page and when i pointed that out on YouTube to one of their reviews about the Galaxy S4 besting every other smartphone, my comment got topped up to over a hundred likes. People were finally noticing and PA eventually made some slight changes, but still today, you can pretty much guarantee that you'll see the top Samsung products displayed as a "versus another product" or "review" at the top of the page. As for LG, i never noticed any of its products being advertised on PA. Actually, the G2 just released and despite a great rating, it has only managed to secure a spot at the far right of the page, ready to drop out of the headlines at the next mobile device release.
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PS: I read that LG is PhoneArena's biggest sponsor.
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actually samsung is their sponsor, their review of the g2 wasn't that great
The camera on this phone is very nice indeed!
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actually samsung is their sponsor, their review of the g2 wasn't that great
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They rated G2 a 9.4 mate, which is pretty high. That said i am not sure how LG is a sponsor as some rightly pointed, all i see is Apple and Samsung on the main page, be it featured stories or main page.
As a matter of fact it seems like a story of some butt hurt fan of maybe HTC one, whose strongest selling point Camera is the worst.
Anyone noticed the audio quality of the videos taken with all the phones and the camera?The quality of the Lg audio is eons ahead of them all including the supposedly great audio quality of ONE.The audio chip and the mics of G2 are amazing.
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Anyone noticed the audio quality of the videos taken with all the phones and the camera?The quality of the Lg audio is eons ahead of them all including the supposedly great audio quality of ONE.The audio chip and the mics of G2 are amazing.
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And how does it perform with loud music/audio? This video doesn't bode well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzmJLCNZJdU
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And how does it perform with loud music/audio? This video doesn't bode well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzmJLCNZJdU
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Are we supposed to put the phone near a speaker in full blast,in our everyday use?That kind of comparissons are idiotic at best...When i record a video with crystal clear audio with G2 and the I5s will record a muted low sound,will you be proud that it can do better when you put it near a speaker in full blast? lol Also the G2 is extremely sensitive and pic up noises that other phones cant..thats good and bad,depends on the situation.
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Are we supposed to put the phone near a speaker in full blast,in our everyday use?That kind of comparissons are idiotic at best...When i record a video with crystal clear audio with G2 and the I5s will record a muted low sound,will you be proud that it can do better when you put it near a speaker in full blast? lol
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Some people enjoy going to concerts and all you know... Sometimes they want to record a video of (a piece of) it. And pretty often the sound goes to crap in those situations, so wouldn't call this kind of stuff "idiotic at best". It all depends on what you use it for.
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Some people enjoy going to concerts and all you know... Sometimes they want to record a video of (a piece of) it. And pretty often the sound goes to crap in those situations, so wouldn't call this kind of stuff "idiotic at best". It all depends on what you use it for.
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Putting the phone near a speaker it doesnt emulate a concert at all.The G2 pic up noises that i5s cant this is why its more fuzzy at times.If the sound is crap G2 will pic up a crappy sound,cause it records what is there...Sure it can be good and bad,but its prefferable at least for me,when at 90% of the situations i will use it,the sound will be great,instead of having a sub par sound,that will only be usefull at the 10% of my use (concerts and all)
PA's reviews are continuely garbage. Their ranking system has no repeatability, their test methodology always has flaws. Might as well look at Gizmodo's or Engadget's 'seat of the pants' reviews.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30COabYrr64
The colours are too saturated, the camera wobbles and skips just as much and the mic sounds poor compared.
Surely a software issue?
Have no clue what cnet is trying to do there but the actual quality is much better.
Sound recording is really impressive and the OIS is working well too as one can see in the following videos from xsever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loxDegj3fFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ7pAF1JsWA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7AvFi08yNk
I want to see a video of him walking around, I'm seeing that weird jelly effect still in those though and he is only sitting or standing still and moving the camera side to side. The colours still look so fake........
Not the smooth video they showed in the press confs.
I will be shooting another video today with White Balance set to Daylight and as I walk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GBupRpL_3Io
Even they say the iPhone 5 cam is better.
Maybe some software related issues? Like allways when new phone comes out...
http://reviews.cnet.com/nokia-lumia-920/
Yeh cnet confirm the camera being overhyped in the review.
Good in low light, not as good in day time.
I really don't trust cnet. I seen the video and it looks like they were favoring the iphone 5. They went to 4 solo shots of the iphone 5 while they only had 2 for the lumia. I'll just have to wait on xserver to test it because his trying his best to provide everyone with a fair review.
Conspiracy: apple paying cnet
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Here are direct photo comparisons between different phones and the Lumia 920. The is part of a CNET review for the US version in their US office, which is more favorable of the camera.
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57...0-camera-vs-htc-windows-phone-8x-vs-iphone-5/
And more direct comparison picks from Slashgear
http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-lumia-920-pureview-camera-hands-on-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-01255193/
Frankly I can't decide whether this camera is good or bad based on these pictures. It wins some, but not by much. It can lose pretty bad though, especially with how unsharp and vague a lot of images look. It's not the winner Nokia was touting. Indoor shots are better in some instances, worse in others. Night shots are "brighter" but not necessarily better. I can edit the photos of a competing phone by turning up the gamma and get close to the same thing that Nokia produces. The smooth video also isn't as great as I once thought. It makes me nauseous, and details are still very lacking even if there isn't any major instances of blur.
The reviews on the phone are contradicting. The verge review shows great pictures, much better than cnet's or slashgears and their unit is not even on final software. The camera performance just doesn't seem consistant.
Well I'll judge myself when I get mine next week.
It seems to me Nokia focused too much on low light photos because the day time photos lack detail.
I added many more videos with different settings here: http://forums.wpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=200158
A Nokia French community member has confirmed on Twitter that there will be an camera update soon.
Actually, I'm very happy with my phone anyway
Hi guy's,... I thought the camera was good until i view it on my computer...it's kinda granny with lots of noise... it looks good in the 1080p display but not on FB or in my computer rofl. I guess something is really wrong with the camera.
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Hi guy's,... I thought the camera was good until i view it on my computer...it's kinda granny with lots of noise... it looks good in the 1080p display but not on FB or in my computer rofl. I guess something is really wrong with the camera.
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Welcome to mobile cameras, they all throw pixel count at you when what they really need are better sensors. I have NEVER had a phone camera take pictures that didn't have tons of noise and look like complete **** on a decent monitor. In my experience thus far, this camera is no different than others I've seen.
Agree^^
charlatan01 said:
In my experience thus far, this camera is no different than others I've seen.
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Can you compare to Maxx HD?
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Great minds think alike．
Disagree.. maybe its your laptop... The pics from my rezound look awesome on my laptop
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Nokia has killer cameras. Even the old models, wish others would follw them
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Have been playing with the camera all day today. Compared to iphone5 this shows lot of noise especially in low light. When cmpared to gs3, noise is marginally higher in low light photos. Under good light conditions, this seems to produce most faithful color reproduction.
Just my observation
Yea, I just compared gsiii and DNA cameras, I think gsiii is better most of the time, but not in color reproduction. But honestly, they are both awful. :thumbdown:
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I just downloaded camera 360 from the market, and its so much better than the stock camera.
I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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Damn... I was going to pick up that phone today but after seeing these pics I don't think I am. A good camera is very important to me, maybe I'll get the Lumia 920 instead...
Well, what do you expect from a phone's camera? Whatever the camera's hardware is, if 90% of its settings are controlled automatically, the result is most probably going to suck. In a darker scene, this phone's software may want to bump the ISO higher than another phone's software, hence this noise and lack of detail. But anyway, a different camera app and you knowing how to use it will most probably show better results.
For me, a cellphone's camera is not much more than a barcode scanner.
Exactly. Phone cameras will always suck compared to a quality Point&Shoot. Smaller sensor, few manual settings, and software made by phone manufacturers, not Canon/Nikon. It's fine for a decent landscape shot or portrait on a sunny day but some people just have ridiculous expectations.
People spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment that works well in low light or for fast action. Maybe the iPhone 5 is marginally better than this, but I've played with my family's new iPhones and IMO the camera is still just a phone camera. If I wanted to take a good picture I'd bring something else.
Some comparisons
Some people didn't like my review of the DNA saying that I was too harsh on the 1080p 440ppi display. How could it possibly be worse than the 720p S3 panel? Well, I think these will speak for themselves:
First a short video shot by an iPhone 4S...DNA vs S3 playing Underworld Awakening. It's a bit hard to show how much the S3 dominates because it's a video of video playback, but the most accurate part is when Selene and Michael are kissing. You can see the skin tone is MUCH better:
http://db.tt/Z597Hcuc
Then the friend with the iPhone 4S and I went out and took some shots. He's taller than me, so the angles are a bit off, but you get the idea. 4S is on the left, DNA on the right:
http://db.tt/edmZQvMD
http://db.tt/cBAcLDwo
http://db.tt/9sHcE6yO
http://db.tt/hORDltQq
http://db.tt/G3pabYog
As you can clearly see, the DNA gets smoked when it comes to color and brightness. Either I have a bad panel or sensor or this camera/video playback is just simply inferior right out the box.
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Damn... I was going to pick up that phone today but after seeing these pics I don't think I am. A good camera is very important to me, maybe I'll get the Lumia 920 instead...
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Don't forget-I was NOT really holding the camera steady (Tipsy), but my spouse had my S3 and the DNA's pics actually look better in those low-light shots than on the S3. I need to go to the Conservatory and take some daylight shots of all the tropical plants. THAT'S where I usually take my dSLR and even when I took the S3 there, the pics came out great,popping colors, etc.... Let's see how the DNA can handle those.
The difference is amazing!!!
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I just downloaded camera 360 from the market, and its so much better than the stock camera.
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I just downloaded the Camera 360 Ultimate from the Play Store and the difference is very, VERY noticeable. EVERY DNA owner needs to switch immediately. It's COMPLETELY a software issue. I'll be testing other camera apps right now, but this was a drastic improvement!!!
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I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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On my monitor those pictures look absolutely horrible, grainy and pixely. Are you using a stock camera or a 3rd party one?
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Exactly. Phone cameras will always suck compared to a quality Point&Shoot. Smaller sensor, few manual settings, and software made by phone manufacturers, not Canon/Nikon. It's fine for a decent landscape shot or portrait on a sunny day but some people just have ridiculous expectations.
People spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment that works well in low light or for fast action. Maybe the iPhone 5 is marginally better than this, but I've played with my family's new iPhones and IMO the camera is still just a phone camera. If I wanted to take a good picture I'd bring something else.
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Well no camera will ever be like buying a nikon but getting normal point&shoot quality pics isn't much to ask for, nokias are able to achieve it, seems to be just a part of the phone being skimped on. Nothing to stop me frfom buyin though, they are "good enough"
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Some people didn't like my review of the DNA saying that I was too harsh on the 1080p 440ppi display. How could it possibly be worse than the 720p S3 panel? Well, I think these will speak for themselves:
First a short video shot by an iPhone 4S...DNA vs S3 playing Underworld Awakening. It's a bit hard to show how much the S3 dominates because it's a video of video playback, but the most accurate part is when Selene and Michael are kissing. You can see the skin tone is MUCH better:
http://db.tt/Z597Hcuc
Then the friend with the iPhone 4S and I went out and took some shots. He's taller than me, so the angles are a bit off, but you get the idea. 4S is on the left, DNA on the right:
http://db.tt/edmZQvMD
http://db.tt/cBAcLDwo
http://db.tt/9sHcE6yO
http://db.tt/hORDltQq
http://db.tt/G3pabYog
As you can clearly see, the DNA gets smoked when it comes to color and brightness. Either I have a bad panel or sensor or this camera/video playback is just simply inferior right out the box.
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Dude, something is definitely wrong with your lens. Half those pictures look flat out BLURRY. There are a bevy of example shots from the DNA, just google some and take a look. I'd upload some of my own if it werent for the fact they're already out there. Those pictures you took look like something my 2001 blackberry pearl took.
I've found some LG G2 video and photo samples with the originals that you can download. Photo quality seems really good but that 60 fps sample seems to run too fast? Or is it my PC??
Images here: http://optimusforums.com/threads/lg-g2-photo-samples.8836/
Video samples here: http://optimusforums.com/threads/lg-g2-video-sample.8837/
Honestly the photos and videos look and sound pretty terrible. I've seen some sample pics from Phonearena, pics from a couple korean sites, and video samples from other testers besides these. The photos are grainy, have drab colors, blur a lot, and seem to be constantly overexposed and over-contrasty losing all fine detail where all grays turn black and all bright shades turn white. The videos have LG's trademark OCD autofocus that keeps on bouncing and bouncing even on a perfectly still scene and all the image problems the photos suffer. The audio capture is grating and reminds me of the horrible audio capture of the GS3 and older HTC phones. I'd rank the camera chops below even last gen flagships.
Other than the amazing screen and thin bezels, the rest of the LG G2 is shaping up to be another copycat follow everyone else half effort. Poorly implemented OIS that barely exists (worse than even the HTC One), the same unimpressive 13MP camera from last year's Optimus G that many websites said was worse than the 8MP version, the same cheap plastic build but in this case you can't even remove the battery or expand storage space, and little in the way of innovation besides ho hum spec bumps.
I am mostly disappointed in the camera, as this is the year of the Lumia 1020's 41MP camera, Galaxy S4 Zoom's 10x zoom and large sensor, Xperia Z1 with 1/2.3" sensor, Oppo N1 which I am very siked for coming next month, a big camera bump for the iPhone 5S, a 13MP OIS camera from Samsung on the Note 3 which will surely be better than this, Motorola's ClearPixel, and HTC's Ultrapixel. Even though everyone is trying to compete with better camera's, LG just stuck with last year's lackluster faux 13MP one and tacked on a barely there OIS.
Cue ignorant or willfully in denial comments about not final firmware and prototype hardware and yada yada yada. I've been listening to the same excuses for years for dozens and dozens of phones from Nokia and HTC and Samsung and LG and whoever. You get what you see. That's that. The Lumia 920 isn't going to get any sharper looking even after a year of updates. The Xperia Z noise and terrible JPEG algorithm isn't going anywherer. The grain in that smaller Lumia 1020 sensor will be there forever. The cartoony smeared and overprocessed HTC pictures will stay that way. And LG's photos will always look like they were recorded on a VHS tape and played back on an old tube TV. Prototypes, pre-launch hardware, post-launch, hardware made a year later with a year worth of updates, same thing.
Photos when you zoom in to them look over sharpened and compressed. I agree that LG could have done better there with the camera. 920 OIS seems to be one of the best where the G2 doesn't seem that effective. Much like the HTC OIS. But if you look around on the youtube videos some 1020 and 920 videos are shaky and other less. I wonder why that is? Some people have steady hands where others don't?
Edit: New video up that shows the OIS does work now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekN9As4r7ms
Sigh not impressed either. I think katamari is right.
Sux cuz my s3 screen is broken and waiting for a worthy update. S4 is not an option, i hate pentile amoled and Samsung didn't learn from the s3. Reason enough for me to abandon Samsung.
HTC has ridiculous built in social shiat, not an option either.
I want a full hd full sub pixels display below 5inch. G2 was an exception cuz of the thin bezel. And to all the brands that bring out new high end phones without full hd display... well, see you next year maybe.
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HTC has ridiculous built in social shiat, not an option either.
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I hate that about them... well did. Then I just rooted and uninstalled all that social crap that I don't use.
idk, i love my GS4 camera and think it easily kills my DNA, and the one in general, and the G2 looks to have pretty much the same quality as the GS4...so i'm excited.
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idk, i love my GS4 camera and think it easily kills my DNA, and the one in general, and the G2 looks to have pretty much the same quality as the GS4...so i'm excited.
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I've owned the S4 and I would say they are indeed about the same quality now. Video is only better because it shakes around less than the S4 due to the OIS. Its somewhere between the HTC one and 920 OIS. In the middle of the two in terms of OIS preformance.
Sound wise the LG G2 picks up too many high frequencies noises at times.
The sony Z1 we don't even know about that camera yet. So how can we comment on it.
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I've owned the S4 and I would say they are indeed about the same quality now. Video is only better because it shakes around less than the S4 due to the OIS. Its somewhere between the HTC one and 920 OIS. In the middle of the two in terms of OIS preformance.
Sound wise the LG G2 picks up too many high frequencies noises at times.
The sony Z1 we don't even know about that camera yet. So how can we comment on it.
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i'm excited. the audio in videos on the S4 was great; i record guitar videos from time to time, and the S4 rocked..i hope the G2 will be good, too!
Sample Photos - GS3 Comparison
I am the recent owner of an LG G2 and I was comparing the photo quality to my old GS3. I only did a few situations, but I thought I should share the results if anyone else is interested. GS3 photos taken @ 8MP and G2 photos @ 13MP.
The GS3 is definitely better at focussing on close objects.
I have some HDR and non-HDR versions there (it's easy to tell them apart). The GS3 HDR seems to be more aggressive, which can often result in a significant loss of contrast.
I also tested the OIS on the G2 by holding the phone with a shaky hand and taking burst shot photos, and it didn't seem to be very effective.
My photos (downsized to 1080p) are here:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bwrp4uluZCpNT19ObXhfZ1pwc2M&usp=sharing
The G2 takes very appealing photos IMO, and it's a step up from my GS3. They could be better, but I still think it's great for a phone.
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I am the recent owner of an LG G2 and I was comparing the photo quality to my old GS3. I only did a few situations, but I thought I should share the results if anyone else is interested. GS3 photos taken @ 8MP and G2 photos @ 13MP.
The GS3 is definitely better at focussing on close objects.
I have some HDR and non-HDR versions there (it's easy to tell them apart). The GS3 HDR seems to be more aggressive, which can often result in a significant loss of contrast.
I also tested the OIS on the G2 by holding the phone with a shaky hand and taking burst shot photos, and it didn't seem to be very effective.
My photos (downsized to 1080p) are here:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bwrp4uluZCpNT19ObXhfZ1pwc2M&usp=sharing
The G2 takes very appealing photos IMO, and it's a step up from my GS3. They could be better, but I still think it's great for a phone.
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Can you try with the camera mod?
With the original camera photos has lot of bad quality but with modded camera it just got great
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That battery life! This could be the deciding factor that puts this phone in my pocket over the Nexus 5. Thanks for posting the review.
Dchibro said:
That battery life! This could be the deciding factor that puts this phone in my pocket over the Nexus 5. Thanks for posting the review.
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yeah, its a shame they dumb down the nexus line so much (I have the N4)...The new Nexus just passed through the FCC (supposedly) with only a 2300mAh battery :crying:
not to mention they will most likely drop the chipset and camera down a notch.
that leaves me with the G2 and a great community of DEVS. :good:
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yeah, its a shame they dumb down the nexus line so much (I have the N4)...The new Nexus just passed through the FCC (supposedly) with only a 2300mAh battery :crying:
not to mention they will most likely drop the chipset and camera down a notch.
that leaves me with the G2 and a great community of DEVS. :good:
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A lot of it has to do with keeping costs low, since Google is doing most of the subsidizing without carrier launches...I'll get a nexus to fill my custom rom fix but the G2 I have a feeling will be my daily driver for a while...the battery life looks to be amaze balls on it.
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That battery life! This could be the deciding factor that puts this phone in my pocket over the Nexus 5. Thanks for posting the review.
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Your welcome. AnandTech's reviews are more comprehensive than most. Agreed on the battery life. This helps lessens the sting of it being non removable. Camera and diplay are no slouches either.
It's not even a "full review" says, it's a mini.... I am just amazed at how informative anandtech is.
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It's not even a "full review" says, it's a mini.... I am just amazed at how informative anandtech is.
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In FULL review he should tell us what exactly sound chip is installed inside G2. I'm wondering is 24/192 software related thing, is it Qualcomm QSD 800 related, or some maybe discrete external chip? Does G2 have the same Audience earSmart eS325 as G Pro did or does it newer one? Is it's gsm signal reception better or worse than Moto's, HTC One's and Note3's?
No mention of the awful bouncing autofocus in videos. An LG problem that has plagued them since the Optimus 4X, G, G Pro, and now G2. It's a dealbreaker for me. I don't see them fixing it anytime soon. They haven't in the past two years as it is. The other thing I notice is in the controlled shots the LG looks a lot nicer than thet S4 with the colors and the (lack of) sharpening. However, in the random outdoor shots, real world stuff, it just looks real bleh. Fuzzy, grainy, with weird luminance. Reminds me of a VHS tape.
Anandtech is better at interpreting charts and graphs and technical details than at actual phone comparisons and expert opinion. At least they have full size pictures and downloadable videos to make your own conclusions.
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However, in the random outdoor shots, real world stuff, it just looks real bleh. Fuzzy, grainy, with weird luminance.
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HUH? Im no LG apologist but almost all the pics I have seen, the G2 shots look excellent. Most if not all the reviews I have seen, also praise the G2's camera very highly. Please link me to these fuzzy, grainy, pics you speak of.
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No mention of the awful bouncing autofocus in videos. An LG problem that has plagued them since the Optimus 4X, G, G Pro, and now G2. It's a dealbreaker for me. I don't see them fixing it anytime soon. They haven't in the past two years as it is. The other thing I notice is in the controlled shots the LG looks a lot nicer than thet S4 with the colors and the (lack of) sharpening. However, in the random outdoor shots, real world stuff, it just looks real bleh. Fuzzy, grainy, with weird luminance. Reminds me of a VHS tape.
Anandtech is better at interpreting charts and graphs and technical details than at actual phone comparisons and expert opinion. At least they have full size pictures and downloadable videos to make your own conclusions.
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You might consider that it's your eyes, and not the photos. I see no fuzzy, grainy pictures with weird luminance. Perhaps, you've just been blessed with the vision of a Hawk, in which case, you'll never be happy with any pictures from any phone. Yes, it is a phone.
nice!
Hello there,
After much inquiry, I've become undecided about this phone. I have been looking for a 4.7-5in phone with a good and snappy camera, battery, USA bands, and micro sd support, and the z5 compact seems to fit the bill. However, I keep reading problems about this device mainly concerning its software and camera. I really like the device given all it has to offer but I'm just not inclined to dish out $500+ on a device that has a problematic camera i.e. blurred edges caused by software or hardware, no warranty (here in the USA), over-heating, sony ui, etc. I currently have an LG G4 which absolutely meets my needs but like I said, I'm looking for a smaller phone for traveling and one hand handling.
So my question for those who own the Z5c, is it really THAT bad and will the firmware update fix the purported problems of this device? I'm concerned about the blurry edges being a hardware issue and perhaps Sony is just covering their tracks by saying that an "update" will fix that problem. If you have updated your device, could you post a sample of the fixed camera or at least let us know here?
Really appreciate your time and input!
Coming from the z1 compact and z3 compact, although I loved those phones I did find the camera sub par, and the external speaker volume too low and muffled, the front and back screens were finger print magnets and easily scratched.
But I love the compact series and put my hope and money back into the z5-compact.
Had mine for 2 weeks now (Arctic white) and I love the new design, the no finger print frosted rear glass and the front screen also just doesn't seem to attract finger prints either!, improved and much louder external speakers, the camera has improved dramatically. I have none of the reported issues of blurred edges, slow camera opening etc it's all good. Oh and the fingerprint scanner is awesome!
I love this phone to death it's perfect in my eyes. It will be hard to part with this when it comes time to upgrade to the z6 compact ☺
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Coming from the z1 compact and z3 compact, although I loved those phones I did find the camera sub par, and the external speaker volume too low and muffled, the front and back screens were finger print magnets and easily scratched.
But I love the compact series and put my hope and money back into the z5-compact.
Had mine for 2 weeks now (Arctic white) and I love the new design, the no finger print frosted rear glass and the front screen also just doesn't seem to attract finger prints either!, improved and much louder external speakers, the camera has improved dramatically. I have none of the reported issues of blurred edges, slow camera opening etc it's all good. Oh and the fingerprint scanner is awesome!
I love this phone to death it's perfect in my eyes. It will be hard to part with this when it comes time to upgrade to the z6 compact ☺
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Does the software seem good and fast? No stutters or lag?
Thanks
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Notchr302 said:
Does the software seem good and fast? No stutters or lag?
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There were stutters and lags, but since the last update they all are gone.
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There were stutters and lags, but since the last update they all are gone.
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I'm so confused because some say there is still lag after the update. Ugh lol
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I am one of those who would say that the lags are gone after the update. And whatever that guy said, I agree wholeheartedly. This phone is a beast. I also come from a Z3 Compact and I am loving the Z5c. Especially the camera
It was a little stuttery straight out of the box but I downloaded Sony PC companion (just googled it) and then downloaded the latest firmware 32.0.A.6.152 (it took a couple of hours, which by all reports is normal) then updated my phone.
Happy to report it is buttery smooth with no stutters or lags all super fast.
Interesting to see that the pre installed photo analyzer app (Sony) which was reportedly causing some lag, had disappeared in the latest firmware.
I hope this has helped you with your decision.
Cheers
Do you still have the blurry edges or has it been fixed?
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Do you still have the blurry edges or has it been fixed?
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99% sure it's good. You be the judge. Just a quick picture, tried to place items on every edge/corner.
I'm sitting at the park, it's dusk and a little cloudy. No flash, superior auto, 8mp.
I've had the Z5C for a week now and I can't comment too much on certain details because this is my very first Android phone - I am coming straight from a Nokia 808. The phone is compact, slick-looking, seems incredibly fast to me and I am liking the Android experience as a whole, although a few things Symbian had were simpler and more elegant (changing phone profiles, searching for contacts under phone, for instance).
The one issue I have, and that is a big one and it is so big of an issue that I registered today on XDA to ask for help, is the extremely poor photo/camera quality. I cannot understand what is going on here. This is a $600 2015 brand new release phone. Something must be wrong either with the software or hardware on my phone, which sucks since I purchased it for US operation (no warranty). I do not know how to express in words how disappointed I am with the camera. Let's just say that my 2012 Nokia 808 takes photos comparable to my SLR system. I was expecting at least equivalent photo quality from a modern/newer phone.
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I've had the Z5C for a week now and I can't comment too much on certain details because this is my very first Android phone - I am coming straight from a Nokia 808. The phone is compact, slick-looking, seems incredibly fast to me and I am liking the Android experience as a whole, although a few things Symbian had were simpler and more elegant (changing phone profiles, searching for contacts under phone, for instance).
The one issue I have, and that is a big one and it is so big of an issue that I registered today on XDA to ask for help, is the extremely poor photo/camera quality. I cannot understand what is going on here. This is a $600 2015 brand new release phone. Something must be wrong either with the software or hardware on my phone, which sucks since I purchased it for US operation (no warranty). I do not know how to express in words how disappointed I am with the camera. Let's just say that my 2012 Nokia 808 takes photos comparable to my SLR system. I was expecting at least equivalent photo quality from a modern/newer phone.
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What are your thoughts on the quick photo I posted? All standard settings in quite average light? Do you see any of the issues you are experiencing on your phone?
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What are your thoughts on the quick photo I posted? All standard settings in quite average light? Do you see any of the issues you are experiencing on your phone?
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For the resolution posted, I dont see any issues. What I see on my photos is some sort of sharpening which causes details to be lost when zooming in. And believe me, I am not even remotely pixel-peeking, just basic cropping for creative purposes.
I'll try to post some sample photos to illustrate what I am facing here.
Cheers,
BB
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The one issue I have, and that is a big one and it is so big of an issue that I registered today on XDA to ask for help, is the extremely poor photo/camera quality. I cannot understand what is going on here. This is a $600 2015 brand new release phone. Something must be wrong either with the software or hardware on my phone, which sucks since I purchased it for US operation (no warranty). I do not know how to express in words how disappointed I am with the camera. Let's just say that my 2012 Nokia 808 takes photos comparable to my SLR system. I was expecting at least equivalent photo quality from a modern/newer phone.
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If you haven't already, you might want to check the main Xperia Z5 subforum about this issue, specifically this thread where they talk about the camera, and the best settings for particular lighting. It could be you have a defective camera though, and if so, I feel for ya since I also imported my device.
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If you haven't already, you might want to check the main Xperia Z5 subforum about this issue, specifically this thread where they talk about the camera, and the best settings for particular lighting. It could be you have a defective camera though, and if so, I feel for ya since I also imported my device.
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Exactly how my photos look like! Thanks for linking me to this thread, even though what I learned from it is not exactly great news!
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Exactly how my photos look like! Thanks for linking me to this thread, even though what I learned from it is not exactly great news!
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Same problem for me. It's a very expansive phone and you have to read pages of forums to understand how to make the most of it.
But still, the camera to me is a complete disaster. The app is cheap, very laggy, menus are terrible and the most improtant part, it takes poor photos.
Oversharpened and zooming in a tiny bit on a 23Mp pictures is just horrible.
The photo shared a few post back in the park is just awful too, sorry bro no offense, but it's not a defective camera it's just what is sold.
When you come from other brands, you are automatically disapointed.
P.S. videos are quite amazing though, especially in 60fps and the management of the edit app of videos is very good too.
I just switched to the nexus 5X, and there are no comparaison. Much much simpler, you don't need to test every little setting to take a good pic and zooming in is incredible, the best.
Yet I really loved the compact shape and overall build quality of the z5 device.
Comments non related to the camera is : the system is quite good as it is very similar to stock android but a little disappointed too by the performance.
I don't speak about lags and everything as it is quite fluid, but it just takes time to open or reload apps compared to my other devices.
I am still keeping the device to see if there will be improvement (there should be a major camera app update this month) but i don't believe in miracles, i don't think that will solve the pictures quality.
If you know how to use it (8mp at SA for darker scenarios, 23mp manual for bright daylight) it's been reviewed in a number of places as the best camera currently on the market. It's interesting to me how polarizing the camera is for people though. People either think it's the second coming, or the antichrist. I imagine that the improvements to the software promised with the Marshmallow update will go a long way to getting a lot of naysayers to give it a second look.
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If you know how to use it (8mp at SA for darker scenarios, 23mp manual for bright daylight) it's been reviewed in a number of places as the best camera currently on the market.
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That is a very interesting perspective on the topic; so basically it boils down to misuse by users! And I suspect this is from someone that has never even tried the phone!
Let me propose the exact opposite, and I suspect a portion (if not majority) of people complaining about the imaging performance on these Z5 phones are actually far from amateur photographers and do understand what is achievable and should be expected in terms o quality. There is no way to slice this or put a twist on it, and I don't care about DXO ratings.
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That is a very interesting perspective on the topic; so basically it boils down to misuse by users! And I suspect this is from someone that has never even tried the phone!
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No, it's certainly been by those who've tried the phone. By the looks of it you didn't get too far into that thread I previously recommended, but Timaustin2000 and a few others in that thread really turned the tone around with their investigations on the ability of the camera, and comparison shots. They've even had an influential effect on reviewers. So for instance, it wasn't till TimAustin pointed out to the reviewers at Android Authority that they were crippling the phone by using the 23mp in low light scenarios that they took into consideration the supersampling of the 8mp default settings. From there a number of other reviewers, bloggers, vloggers, and the like took a second look at the camera in the phone and tested appropriately with often very very positive results (many of these reviews and videos are also mentioned in that thread).
Let me propose the exact opposite, and I suspect a portion (if not majority) of people complaining about the imaging performance on these Z5 phones are actually far from amateur photographers and do understand what is achievable and should be expected in terms o quality. There is no way to slice this or put a twist on it, and I don't care about DXO ratings.
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From the recent reviews that I've been reading and watching, that doesn't appear to be the case, but of course, you're free to come to your own conclusions.
Haven't had much experience with the Z5C camera yet, only had it for a week.
But one thing, it takes so long to open. This is my 1St Android phone, been an ios user for around 4.5 years & the iPhones were just easier to access their camera. Slide up, click camera & it opened. On the Z5C, you press & hold the camera button, feel it vibrate, let it go... & wait.
After a second or so, the screen goes black, then the camera opens, then the screen starts to set itself up.
Just tried then & it was around 4 seconds.
I love the phone so far, but it seems to really struggle with normal usage.
By normal usage, for me, I mean it lags. Playing YouTube videos, it lags, I'm in Oz & we have an online streaming movie/TV service called Stan.... It doesn't work on the Z5.
Switching between tasks can give the phone a heart attack. For example, I was playing Clash Of Clans & some one tried to call me, the box popped down, I clicked answer & nothing happened.
I clicked answer two or three more times, before clicking back to the home screen, the phone call went to message bank while my phone locked up, went black & I had to wait around 30 seconds for it to sort itself out.
Even typing this it lags every now & then.
8 Ball Pool is laggy... If messages pop while playing, it gets even worse.
I do love the phone, I am enjoying Android (I miss a few ios advantages), but I just wish that the phone didn't feel like it was made with enough Ram to run the OS & one app at a time.
Oh... The audio is quiet, it doesn't go as loud as my iPhone 4 did, with my Bose head set & it lacks the same bass, but does sound alright.
The included Sony ear plugs are uncomfortable, have no sound advantages, have annoying different length ear cords & no volume control.
No supplied quick charger.
The back of the phone tends to get quite hot.
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Haven't had much experience with the Z5C camera yet, only had it for a week.
But one thing, it takes so long to open. This is my 1St Android phone, been an ios user for around 4.5 years & the iPhones were just easier to access their camera. Slide up, click camera & it opened. On the Z5C, you press & hold the camera button, feel it vibrate, let it go... & wait.
After a second or so, the screen goes black, then the camera opens, then the screen starts to set itself up.
Just tried then & it was around 4 seconds.
I love the phone so far, but it seems to really struggle with normal usage.
By normal usage, for me, I mean it lags. Playing YouTube videos, it lags, I'm in Oz & we have an online streaming movie/TV service called Stan.... It doesn't work on the Z5.
Switching between tasks can give the phone a heart attack. For example, I was playing Clash Of Clans & some one tried to call me, the box popped down, I clicked answer & nothing happened.
I clicked answer two or three more times, before clicking back to the home screen, the phone call went to message bank while my phone locked up, went black & I had to wait around 30 seconds for it to sort itself out.
Even typing this it lags every now & then.
8 Ball Pool is laggy... If messages pop while playing, it gets even worse.
I do love the phone, I am enjoying Android (I miss a few ios advantages), but I just wish that the phone didn't feel like it was made with enough Ram to run the OS & one app at a time.
Oh... The audio is quiet, it doesn't go as loud as my iPhone 4 did, with my Bose head set & it lacks the same bass, but does sound alright.
The included Sony ear plugs are uncomfortable, have no sound advantages, have annoying different length ear cords & no volume control.
No supplied quick charger.
The back of the phone tends to get quite hot.
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Previous iPhone only user here too. Have you updated to the latest firmware? My camera takes about 2 seconds to come up pressing the side button since the update. Further improvements are expected with the Marshmallow update.
Also, I have no lag since the latest firmware, but I'm also using the Nova Launcher which you can get for free in the Play Store (not sure if that makes any difference or not).
I also have a problem with the volume, especially from the front speakers. Thought having two speakers instead of one, as I did on my iPhone 2G, 3G, 4S. and 6S would make it louder, but it's not. Still, honestly, I don't find it much quieter than those devices either. the 6S was maybe a tick louder, but not by much. I still want more punch from the front speakers, and I'm hoping that's something I can fix by doing some sort of ROM tweak. If not, I suppose I can live with it, but its the biggest disappointment about the device for me, not because its so much quieter than my iPhone devices, but because it doesn't stand head and shoulders above them.
I don't know about you, but my Sony ear plugs are way way wayyyyy more comfortable than my iPhone headphones. In fact, they're the most comfortable in-ear headphones I've ever worn. The different length on the cords I don't really have much issue with, since I usually drape the longest cord behind my head to my right ear (which is how I'm assuming they're meant to be worn). I will admit that they seem slightly cheap-ish, and I was hoping that where the volume button was (which I DO have on my pair) also had a mic so I could answer in-coming calls, but overall, I think they're pretty okay. Again, they're much more comfortable than the headphones that came with my iPhones. As far as loudness in the headphones is concerned, they're loud enough, but I definitely wouldn't mind if they were louder. I'll probably end up getting some sort of thin amp/dac like the dragonfly or the Aqua to boost the volume. Shame I have to do that, but oh well.
Again, its interesting to me how varied people's reactions are to this device. I'm FAR more happier with this device than I am my previous iPhones. Its not perfect, but it hits so many of the checkboxes for me that its hard to complain.
Edit: Oh, also, I got a quick charger with my device, but I bought the Taiwan version, so maybe that accounts for the difference in headphones and charger.
Lastly, after the initial setup, and especially after the update, my phone doesn't get very hot. Maybe I'm not using the same intensive programs that you are, though. The phone gets a little warm with Candy Crush and Asphalt 8, but my iPhone 6S also got pretty hot just using the camera (which is something my mother noticed when I handed her the phone to see some pictures).