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I'm new to all of this and am trying to fix my ATT 8525. The problem is that I have horrible reception. Im in a 3g area but during calls people cant hear me and they hear crackling. I determined that on Edge vs 3g it works better...so I installed a hack that allows me to select the Band and force it to stay on edge. That helped a ton...but still not even nearly as good as my friends older phones or my sister's Treo 685 (?).
SO from reading it seems I need to update the radio? Its currently 1.40.30.00
Exactly what is the process to do this? I've read posts here and am a bit confused and am worried Ill mess it up...its still under warranty as its only a couple weeks old. can someone help me...in non tech terms, the process I need to follow.
Thanks!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
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so...
SO is the order of install:
HardSPL
then the radio update, with Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3?
Or is there a better, safer way?
What does, "You can now do radio only upgrades in Bootloaders other than SPL 1.04." mean? DO I have to install a bootloader or is it already installed from att and how do I check?
Sorry for all the questions - this is all new to me.
patches123 said:
SO is the order of install:
HardSPL
then the radio update, with Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3?
Or is there a better, safer way?
What does, "You can now do radio only upgrades in Bootloaders other than SPL 1.04." mean? DO I have to install a bootloader or is it already installed from att and how do I check?
Sorry for all the questions - this is all new to me.
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HardSPL will not make flashing the radio safer. HardSPL makes your phone *superCID so that you may flash ANY ROM (not radio or radio bootloader) even if the CID is different. So if your radio and radio bootloader are not locked down, anytime you flash a rom that includes the radio and radioBL, they will be upgraded along with it. Then you would have to do radio-only upgrades; if they are even necessary.
I would check the hermes wiki for information on flashing radio upgrades.
Personally, if the reception stinks in your area, I don't think flashing the ROM will make it any better. The cingular radio roms are developed by HTC for Cingular. Any differences in RF, imho, would be strictly due to environmental, geographical and cellular system factors. All this talk about better battery life and RF gains in newer radios is purely subjective and comes down to a he-said she-said situation. However, if Cingular has a new WM6 version out with a new radio included; you may as well flash it as it may help you out. I am not sure, but is the new Cingular rom an official final release? Or just a leak/test version?
I dont think its been officially released yet. Well, I am not going to worry about doing it now if the consenus is that reception will not be improved. Funny thing is that reception in my area is great...its this phone. All my friends and family have ATT and absolutely no problems. I have used it in 3 different major cities in different parts of the US and have the same problem in all. I love this 8525 for everything but phone calls. ATT is sending me a new one this week and I am hoping its better...otherwise I might have to get a different phone completely.
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HardSPL will not make flashing the radio safer.
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This is not actually true. HardSPL also prevents the IPL/SPL areas from being accidentally overwritten. It does protect you in the event that the file you are trying to flash is not a good file.
Can someone please enlighten me? Is the band compatibility issues on the HTC One GPE a hardware limitation or software limitation?
Reason I ask is that I would like to do a full GPE conversion on my HTC One that I got from T-mobile. If I do this would I still be able to connect to the same towers and have the same signal on HSPA+ specifically? Or would I have to (and be able to) flash a T-mobile radio? Or would I just be screwed?
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I'm not sure, but I have a tmo one running Android Revolution Google Edition ROM and flashed a tmo radio and get great reception mLTE and HSPA +
Tapatalkin'
I have the gpe 4.3 radio on my T-Mobile htc one and I'm getting better lte reception than the T-Mobile radio.
I'm running the arhd 4.2.2 Rom.
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Can someone please enlighten me? Is the band compatibility issues on the HTC One GPE a hardware limitation or software limitation?
Reason I ask is that I would like to do a full GPE conversion on my HTC One that I got from T-mobile. If I do this would I still be able to connect to the same towers and have the same signal on HSPA+ specifically? Or would I have to (and be able to) flash a T-mobile radio? Or would I just be screwed?
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The Roms you install shouldn't prevent you from connecting to the HSPA network. The HTC One GPE has a physical (radio) limitation that prevents it from connecting to the HSPA because its lacking one of the radios for the frequency TMobile uses for that standard.
If you have a TMobile phone and make it be a GPE via ROM flash, you shouldn't have issues.
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Thanks I wasn't quite sure what the limitation was. I couldn't fully convert to GPE like I wanted since I can't get s-off but I'm running ARHD 4.3 with the GPE radio and yep I'm getting even better signal. Thanks guys
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What about the Dev Edition working with flashed radio
This may be a n00b question, but I have an opportunity on a sweet deal for a Developer Edition One, and am considering T-Mo for the service. I understand it lacks the HPSA+ 1700 radio, but is that a physical limitation, or can you flash the necessary firmware on top? According to T-Mo, my area of Atlanta is serviced by LTE, so it wouldn't be an issue at home, but I don't know what would happen when I step out of the coverage zone.
Any tips or advice?
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This may be a n00b question, but I have an opportunity on a sweet deal for a Developer Edition One, and am considering T-Mo for the service. I understand it lacks the HPSA+ 1700 radio, but is that a physical limitation, or can you flash the necessary firmware on top? According to T-Mo, my area of Atlanta is serviced by LTE, so it wouldn't be an issue at home, but I don't know what would happen when I step out of the coverage zone.
Any tips or advice?
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It's a physical issue, it does not have a radio that supports T-Mo's frequencies, as much as I'd like one, I can't give up LTE
z0phi3l said:
It's a physical issue, it does not have a radio that supports T-Mo's frequencies, as much as I'd like one, I can't give up LTE
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This post has answered one question of mine being whether the hspa issue was a hardware issue or not. Hkwver I have a normal T-Mobile one that I converted to fully stock gpe with stock boot loader and recovery and ever since making the switch in certain areas I lose LTE briefly cinect to hspa and end up on 3g. Before the switch in these same areas I would never lose LTE connection or suffer speed loss. Since the switch though there are a lot of areas that I cannot connect to anything but 3g. So if this is a hardware limitation the GPE RUU shouldn't effect this manner or is there something in the RUU preventing access to this radio seeing as it was written with knowledge of the hardware it was being placed on not having the proper hardware? Is there anything I can do to restore functionality of hspa while keeping Google play edition on my HTC one ?
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This post has answered one question of mine being whether the hspa issue was a hardware issue or not. Hkwver I have a normal T-Mobile one that I converted to fully stock gpe with stock boot loader and recovery and ever since making the switch in certain areas I lose LTE briefly cinect to hspa and end up on 3g. Before the switch in these same areas I would never lose LTE connection or suffer speed loss. Since the switch though there are a lot of areas that I cannot connect to anything but 3g. So if this is a hardware limitation the GPE RUU shouldn't effect this manner or is there something in the RUU preventing access to this radio seeing as it was written with knowledge of the hardware it was being placed on not having the proper hardware? Is there anything I can do to restore functionality of hspa while keeping Google play edition on my HTC one ?
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I don't have an answer to your question, but I'm trying to figure one thing out - you were able to do a full GPE conversion (including RUU and changing the model ID) to a T-Mobile One and didn't brick it?
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I don't have an answer to your question, but I'm trying to figure one thing out - you were able to do a full GPE conversion (including RUU and changing the model ID) to a T-Mobile One and didn't brick it?
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no it did not brick the device if fully functional receives ota updates and the questions I had in the OP I've answered. The device gets hspa+ 42 as well as LTE so the issue must be a hardware limitation of the gpe that u can actually purchase. In fact it is a at t model which is why it suffers the lack of HEPA connectivity. However if j flash a T-Mobile over to GPE RUU it will have HEPA+ connectivity. Also mid and Cid do not need to be changed in order to get ota updates. The OP has been edited since this was discovered all u need to do is flash the ruu and you'll have a fully official gpe HTC one with ota.
Hello. I am Currently running the Stock Kit Kat T-mobile rom. I am S-off and rooted. What would be the benefits or drawbacks of completely converting my phone to either the Google Play Edition or the Developer edition version? I know they don't include Sense, but is that the only difference? Thanks for any information!
toaks said:
Hello. I am Currently running the Stock Kit Kat T-mobile rom. I am S-off and rooted. What would be the benefits or drawbacks of completely converting my phone to either the Google Play Edition or the Developer edition version? I know they don't include Sense, but is that the only difference? Thanks for any information!
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The developer does include sense. The only advantage is that it doesn't have any TMO software, and they generally get updates before the TMO ones.
Advantage to GPE is that is gets updates first and has very little software installed.
At the moment I can't recall if either of these has the HSPA+ using the AWS band, maybe someone else can chime in here. Having AWS is why I got the TMO version in the first place.
OK so if I use the GPE version, I won't be able to connect to T-Mobiles high speed network? Man that sucks.
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The developer does include sense. The only advantage is that it doesn't have any TMO software, and they generally get updates before the TMO ones.
Advantage to GPE is that is gets updates first and has very little software installed.
At the moment I can't recall if either of these has the HSPA+ using the AWS band, maybe someone else can chime in here. Having AWS is why I got the TMO version in the first place.
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OK so if I use the GPE version, I won't be able to connect to T-Mobiles high speed network? Man that sucks.
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I'm hoping someone else chimes in here, because I'm not positive. The phone will always have the radio for AWS, but the software is not in the GPE or Developer edition.
Even if this is true, it will always work with the refarmed 1900 and LTE. So your coverage may be OK depending on your location.
Looking at the Google Play page, I don't see HSPA+ AWS listed:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=htc_one
EDIT: But if you have S-Off anyway, why not just flash it and see what happens? You can always flash back to TMO or use a custom ROM.
Yea I might just give it a try. I just flashed the T-mobile Kit Kat update so I'll probably try it for a bit, then switch to the GPE and see how I like it. Thanks for the input.
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toaks said:
Yea I might just give it a try. I just flashed the T-mobile Kit Kat update so I'll probably try it for a bit, then switch to the GPE and see how I like it. Thanks for the input.
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You are welcome. The HTC One is the first HTC phone I have not unlocked and flashed a ROM. The hardware specs are so good that I've never felt the need.
I've been searching for the T-Mo Radio from the latest 6.10.531.9 T-Mo RUU but was unable to find it. So I created a flashable zip from the OTA update by Garmig (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375223 credit to him for pulling the OTA).
T-Mobile Radio 4T.28.3218.04_10.33E.1718.01L - From RUU 6.10.531.9 (Latest)
T-Mobile Radio 4T.27.3218.14_10.33C.1718.01L - From RUU 5.14.531.1 (I believe)
You can easily flash the above radios via recovery.
If anyone needs another radio, let me know and I'll try to dig it out and create a flashable zip.
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I've been searching for the T-Mo Radio from the latest 6.10.531.9 T-Mo RUU but was unable to find it. So I created a flashable zip from the OTA update by Garmig (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375223 credit to him for pulling the OTA).
T-Mobile Radio 4T.28.3218.04_10.33E.1718.01L - From RUU 6.10.531.9 (Latest)
T-Mobile Radio 4T.27.3218.14_10.33C.1718.01L - From RUU 5.14.531.1 (I believe)
You can easily flash the above radios via recovery.
If anyone needs another radio, let me know and I'll try to dig it out and create a flashable zip.
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Aw awesome thanks
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Why are these 4T instead of the 4A of the first several radios? Want to flash, but finding info on T-Mo radios is proving frustrating.
Mathman85 said:
Why are these 4T instead of the 4A of the first several radios? Want to flash, but finding info on T-Mo radios is proving frustrating.
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Not exactly sure, I remember reading something about the designations a while ago but can't recall.
The radios were pulled from the firmware zip of the OTA so they are Tmobile's if that's your concern...
Thanks for this. Saved me some time. I was actually waiting for the OTA to download so I could pull the radio when I found this thread.
Any noticeable changes?
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Any noticeable changes?
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To be honest the only thing that I noticed is a the change in the build number. Didn't have any issues with the previous version though so nothing to complain about here either. Works great.
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I think the main difference is that T-Mo released this update to enable Wi-fi calling which is presumably reflected in the radio as well as the framework. Other changes if any, are unknown...
It just sucks that wi-fi calling works on the stock rom only...
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I think the main difference is that T-Mo released this update to enable Wi-fi calling which is presumably reflected in the radio as well as the framework. Other changes if any, are unknown...
It just sucks that wi-fi calling works on the stock rom only...
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Yeah it would be nice if they gave us a way to install it on GPe devices but oh well.
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Vlad83 said:
I think the main difference is that T-Mo released this update to enable Wi-fi calling which is presumably reflected in the radio as well as the framework. Other changes if any, are unknown...
It just sucks that wi-fi calling works on the stock rom only...
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No it doesn't, works great on ViperOne 7.
I flashed 6.09.401.5 firmware, which has a 4T.29 radio, a while ago. Just flashed the one posted (4T.28) and i'll see how it goes. The 4T.29 radio I had is working fine, LTE in most places, and speeds are fine.
And wifi calling works great, I don't think it has anything to do with the radio.
I have the same. 4t.29 radio running viperone 7. Wifi calling works flawlessly. Cell network speeds are terrific.
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can i use this for a german htc one too?
Can this radio be flashed on a HTC one mini or will it brick the phone?
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Can this radio be flashed on a HTC one mini or will it brick the phone?
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This is not for the HTC One Mini. If it even flashes, it will break something. It may not brick the phone, but it may render the radio useless. The phone uses a different chipset. Do not try it.
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tobit said:
can i use this for a german htc one too?
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Possibly, but I'm not sure why you would want a T-Mobile US radio version.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
Thank you SO MUCH!!
I finally got 4G LTE out in the country where I live but at best, it was only 4mbps. I knew I had to live with that and have stuck with Energy's ROM from several years ago so didn't know the M7 could do better. In the city it is always 20mbps or faster! So I decided to check XDA to see if there were any updates to the M7. Boy have I been missing out! I saw this and decided to flash the new radio and guess what? Now I'm consistently getting 25mbps and up in the country!!! That is 5 times faster than my slow home wireless internet ISP!
Thank you so much for posting this!!!
I just used the T-Mobile Lollipop RUU, the radio included is 4T.35.3218.16.
Jonathan_A said:
I just used the T-Mobile Lollipop RUU, the radio included is 4T.35.3218.16.
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So why don't you share it?
I dunno how to extract it/I'm afraid that if I did I might mess something up and break someone's phone. I do recall seeing a howto thread....
Don't sweat it, I got the RUU from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc...ruu-t-mobile-htc-one-m7-lollipop-5-0-t3051327
Every time I flash a custom ROM based on 4.16.X firmware I either lose LTE (though HSPA+ still works perfectly) or the ability to receive calls. I've tried ARHD, SD, the Stock WWE, and the US DEV edition, and all of them have exactly one of those issues (it's never both). I'm currently back on ATT stock 4.4.4 ROM (3.42.502.1 firmware), rooted, S-Off.
I thought flashing the WWE RUU before flashing a ROM like ARHD would be enough to upgrade the firmware, but maybe I'm missing something.
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Every time I flash a custom ROM based on 4.16.X firmware I either lose LTE (though HSPA+ still works perfectly) or the ability to receive calls. I've tried ARHD, SD, the Stock WWE, and the US DEV edition, and all of them have exactly one of those issues (it's never both). I'm currently back on ATT stock 4.4.4 ROM (3.42.502.1 firmware), rooted, S-Off.
I thought flashing the WWE RUU before flashing a ROM like ARHD would be enough to upgrade the firmware, but maybe I'm missing something.
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WWE RUU indeed updates the firmware, however to the WWE radio and other firmware.
I think a couple things are going on here (assuming your are on AT&T's network):
1) A number of folks have reported call issues while on AT&T's LTE network and running WWE based custom ROMs. The suspicion is that the changes being made by AT&T in advance of HD Voice (Voice over LTE) deployment is not playing well with Euro based ROMs. AFAIK, there doesn't seem to be a fix for this, although I think some devs like Team Viper are looking into it.
2) US Dev Edition is intended to be used on AT&T's network. However, its not clear from your description, but it seems you are using the WWE firmware (radio probably most importantly) with the Dev Ed ROM. If you haven't already, try the Dev Edition firmware with the Dev Ed ROM; either by RUU or flashing the firmware separately. That is the configuration I was running until just last week (giving Sense 7 a try) and seemed to have no issues on AT&T, including travel to a couple different locations around the country.
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WWE RUU indeed updates the firmware, however to the WWE radio and other firmware.
I think a couple things are going on here (assuming your are on AT&T's network):
1) A number of folks have reported call issues while on AT&T's LTE network and running WWE based custom ROMs. The suspicion is that the changes being made by AT&T in advance of HD Voice (Voice over LTE) deployment is not playing well with Euro based ROMs. AFAIK, there doesn't seem to be a fix for this, although I think some devs like Team Viper are looking into it.
2) US Dev Edition is intended to be used on AT&T's network. However, its not clear from your description, but it seems you are using the WWE firmware (radio probably most importantly) with the Dev Ed ROM. If you haven't already, try the Dev Edition firmware with the Dev Ed ROM; either by RUU or flashing the firmware separately. That is the configuration I was running until just last week (giving Sense 7 a try) and seemed to have no issues on AT&T, including travel to a couple different locations around the country.
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Yeah, I'm on AT&T's network. So I should just download the dev edition ROM from HTC's website and RUU it?
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Yeah, I'm on AT&T's network. So I should just download the dev edition ROM from HTC's website and RUU it?
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If you don't mind wiping the phone (backup any personal data that you want to keep before RUU, obviously), then yes that is probably the easiest way to do it.
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If you don't mind wiping the phone (backup any personal data that you want to keep before RUU, obviously), then yes that is probably the easiest way to do it.
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I just did; LTE is working, but I can't receive calls. When someone calls me, it goes directly to voice mail without ringing
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So I actually got a call to come through. When it did, LTE went away and wouldn't comeback, so it definitely seems like an issue of VoLTE compatibility, even on the Dev Edition ROM for me.
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I just did; LTE is working, but I can't receive calls. When someone calls me, it goes directly to voice mail without ringing
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So I actually got a call to come through. When it did, LTE went away and wouldn't comeback, so it definitely seems like an issue of VoLTE compatibility, even on the Dev Edition ROM for me.
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Weird. I wouldn't think that you would have the issue on Dev Edition ROM, running Dev Edition firmware.
Can you confirm the RUU properly installed the Dev Ed radio, by stating your radio number?
Forgot to mention that turning off LTE is a workaround. But obviously less than ideal.
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Weird. I wouldn't think that you would have the issue on Dev Edition ROM, running Dev Edition firmware.
Can you confirm the RUU properly installed the Dev Ed radio, by stating your radio number?
Forgot to mention that turning off LTE is a workaround. But obviously less than ideal.
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The radio that was installed was 1.24.21331147A1.09G_20.68.4196.01_F
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The radio that was installed was 1.24.21331147A1.09G_20.68.4196.01_F
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I confirm that is the correct US Dev Edition radio baseband.
Weird, I've used mine (as mentioned) not only in my home area of Boston (and surrounding areas) but also while travelling to North Texas, and Washington State, and didn't see any issues. But that is by no means exhaustive. We really have little way of knowing what changes AT&T is making to their LTE network and where (in preparation for HD Voice).
You might fall back to the AT&T 4.4.4 ROM (and even the corresponding radio) to see what will happen. But that's of course kind of disappointing to fall back to KitKat from Lollipop.
You can even try the WWE firmware (4.16.401) zip. But I'd be very surprised if you get a better result on the WWE radio versus the Dev Edition.