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Ok here's my scenario...I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan from At&t and I made a point of them making a note in my account before I purchased the SGS2. I rooted my phone and installed Cognition soon after. I attempted to tether before I rooted etc because the option was present while on stock, but of course a pop up appeared saying that I need to change my plan blah blah blah. Once rooted, I didn't tether because I really haven't had the need to yet...because I have wifi in my home. I will admit that I do consume a lot of data...particularly streaming and downloading content (such as roms etc directly to my device)...but that's the point of 4G unlimited data, correct? And even then a lot of the time I'm connected to wifi at home. The only thing I did differently was tried some APN settings that I seen on Android Central which were supposedly giving other SGSII users better download and upload speeds by connecting to the "backhaul". It was actually worse. So I receive an email saying that if they catch me tethering again, they will change my data plan on their own. So my question is, since I haven't actually tethered, could my actual data usage triggered the message...or since I attempted to tether...or or the APN changing...and how could I prevent them from changing it?
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Ill tell you what, if you edit this into at least 3 readable paragraphs, I promise to give you a decent response.
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I think a phone call to att should solve your issue. If they did put you on a tethering plan, they can undo it. But, you may need to get a supervisor if the unlimited plan has been removed.
From what I understand you get warned at least once before they make any changes.
Also, story perfectly understandable to me as is.
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quarlow said:
I think a phone call to att should solve your issue. If they did put you on a tethering plan, they can undo it. But, you may need to get a supervisor if the unlimited plan has been removed.
From what I understand you get warned at least once before they make any changes.
Also, story perfectly understandable to me as is.
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See how your post had 3 easily readable paragraphs and sentences? That's what I was referring to. His wall of text hurts my brain. Maybe its because I'm reading from the app.
But then again I wouldn't expect you to understand much of anything judging by the majority of your posts on this site.
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seh6183 said:
See how your post had 3 easily readable paragraphs and sentences? That's what I was referring to. His wall of text hurts my brain. Maybe its because I'm reading from the app.
But then again I wouldn't expect you to understand much of anything judging by the majority of your posts on this site.
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Wow ... you really are living up to the nickname you had in the Atrix forum. What was it again, "third rate troll"?
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quarlow said:
Wow ... you really are living up to the nickname you had in the Atrix forum. What was it again, "third rate troll"?
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I'm not hijacking this guys thread anymore than we already have. If you want to argue with me (and be destroyed in every imaginable way) then go ahead and shoot me a pm.
To answer the original posters questions. Att can only send you warnings about tethering if they catch on. You can do things that wont raise any flags on their end such as using less data for less lengths of time.
A better alternanative would be to mask your device id. I'm not aware of any apps that can do it on Android but PDA net can do it for Apple. Maybe someone else can Chime in on an app.
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If you do tether, it was claimed in the Captivate forum that att sniff out the browser agent for Internet Explorer, so to avoid detection to use Google Chrome, or another browser.
But, if you haven't actually tethered I would start with a call to att customer service. If they flagged your account, you should be able to sort it out over the phone.
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If tethering, either by device or plan feature, was specifically included in the plan you were grandfathered from you should be fine. If it wasn't specifically called out as included they'll charge you for the add-on. You can't grandfather something that didn't exist. In other words, if "unlimited data" didn't specifically apply to tethering and tethering as a feature was introduced afterward you'll have to pay for it.
OP, are you using the stock GSII browser? If not, that could be the culprit. As stated above, they're basing it off the browser agent. Call and say you're using a market browser with Mozilla as browser agent. That should help your case later if they end up jerking you around.
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As stated above, they're basing it off the browser agent.
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They use heuristics to sniff packet data for suspect traffic. While it's not 100%accurate, they hold the cards and it's up to you to prove your innocence.
No one knows what the new heuristics are - but something in your post-root non-tethering data usage probably set off a false positive.
Apparently a few others have had false positives and no one knows the true triggers. Good chance that mangling your browser useragent is one of them.
Call them and complain that you received a nastygram despite not attempting to tether after the app blocked it.
I have been using unlimited data for a few years. I tethered with my iphone. Used MyWi, and then PDAnet. I was contacted by them concerning my 'illegal' use of tethering.
A few weeks ago, I switched from the Iphone to the GSII. Rooted it, and almost IMMEDIATELY got a text message saying that tethering has been added to my contract and that I lost my unlimited data.
Am I screwed here? I don't think tethering existed when I signed my original contract with unlimited data.... Can I get this back?
I do apologize if anyone felt my OP was lengthy, but I was at work and I just wanted to cover all sides of the situation just in case I couldn't respond at the time.
I use the stock browser on Cognition to surf and stream to my video player, and Opera Mobile when downloading from Filesonic, etc.
I was mainly trying to get and idea of what might becausing the flag so I would know which route to go when I do call into ATT. I don't want to receive a bill in a month or so and have to battle them then. The tethering plan wasn't included in the grandfathered Unlimited data plan, but I actually did "abuse" it for a while with my Captivate before I got my DSL installed in my new apartment.
I was just thinking that this could have possibly been some sort of scare tactic on behalf of AT&T because of my current data usage, and it was a preemptive action to contain the abuse of their already spotty 4G network.
Also, I wanted myself and any others who have had this experience to control and prevent future occurrences.
I have a friend that works for Verizon wireless and he told me that he received information from a tech that when you call into the tech support, they can get some of the details of your current rom...and conclude whether or not you are rooted, etc...how true this is idk...
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Original email (just in case)
Dear xxx xxx,
We've noticed your service plan may need updating.
Many AT&T customers use their smartphones as a broadband connection for other devices, like laptops, netbooks or other smartphones– a practice commonly known as tethering. Tethering can be an efficient way for our customers to enjoy the benefits of AT&T's mobile broadband network and use more than one device to stay in touch with important people and information. To take advantage of this feature, we require that in addition to a data plan, you also have a tethering plan.
Our records show that you use this capability, but are not subscribed to our tethering plan. If you would like to continue tethering, please log into your account online at www.wireless.att.com , or call us at 866-975-0005, Monday -Friday, 7 a.m. - 9 p.m. CT, or Saturday, 8 a.m. - 7 p.m. CT, to sign up for the DataPro 4GB for Smartphone Tethering plan or the DataPro Enterprise 4GB for Smartphone Tethering plan.
If we don't hear from you, we'll plan to automatically enroll you into one of the above DataPro 4GB plans in an upcoming bill cycle. The specific plan selected for you will depend on your current smartphone data plan; if you are currently subscribed to another Enterprise data plan, you will automatically be enrolled in the DataPro Enterprise 4GB for Smartphone Tethering Plan so that you can continue to access corporate email and applications. Your new DataPro 4GB plan – whether you sign up on your own or we automatically enroll you – will replace your current smartphone data plan, including if you are on an unlimited data plan.
If you discontinue tethering by the end of this month, no changes to your current plan will be required.
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Wow. Is tethering only available as part of a specific DataPro package? If it's not available as a stand-alone option this is a really nasty and back-handed way to get people off grandfathered unlimited packages. That or to greatly reduce the network burden of tethering.
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Wow. Is tethering only available as part of a specific DataPro package? If it's not available as a stand-alone option this is a really nasty and back-handed way to get people off grandfathered unlimited packages. That or to greatly reduce the network burden of tethering.
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I would say: both.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Wow. Is tethering only available as part of a specific DataPro package? If it's not available as a stand-alone option this is a really nasty and back-handed way to get people off grandfathered unlimited packages. That or to greatly reduce the network burden of tethering.
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Exactly my point...the phone only came on the 2nd...there's no way I could've hit a data cap like that on my own to raise a flag in a mere 2 weeks...I don't have that kind of porn habit lol...not sure if it was something in the software...quite possible that it is something in the useragent of the browser...
But it feels like I'm getting bullied here...just want something concrete to fire back with.
EDIT: Came home from work and loaded up my laptop...remembered that in a drunken stupor I was up debating between a Slingbox adapter or a Logictech Revue...and I remember that I said eff it so I downloaded the Gmote and Unified Remote apps to connect to the server in my house via wifi and use my phone to control my media and browser through my TV. Could that have triggered the email? That was at approx 12-1am last night and I recieved the email on my way to work at 9:20 this morn
I just got that same email from them this morning.
I'm a little confused as to what their plan of action is. Do they plan to add a tethering plan at the end of the month w/out our consent if we don't contact them, or will everything stay the same if we stop tethering?
"If we don't hear from you, we'll plan to automatically enroll you into one of the above DataPro 4GB plans in an upcoming bill cycle."
but then towards the end of the email, they state:
"If you discontinue tethering by the end of this month, no changes to your current plan will be required."
Should i contact them or will i be fine if i stop tethering?
Sounds to me if you don't contact them you going to get enrolled
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I've seen a lot of these threads around different forums with plenty of people stating that they got the email, but not many of them following up whether or not their plans actually got changed or not.
Wondering how many people actually got their data plans changed or if the email is more of a warning/scare tactic.
I was wondering if it was possible. What I want to do is buy a couple of evos and have them both use the same number. Both would ring if the number was dialed and if they called out they would both be using same account.
I have 2 kids that both want a phone and sprint said I can only have 1 more line. (already have 4).
Thank you for any help or for pointing me in right direction.
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I was wondering if it was possible. What I want to do is buy a couple of evos and have them both use the same number. Both would ring if the number was dialed and if they called out they would both be using same account.
I have 2 kids that both want a phone and sprint said I can only have 1 more line. (already have 4).
Thank you for any help or for pointing me in right direction.
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You could get two separate Google Voice lines for free. The phones would only work on wifi
But what you're talking about, I don't believe so on a CDMA network. Each phone has an ESN, and to get both phones to use the same line, you would have to have one of them spoof the other's ESN. I'm pretty sure that's illegal, and they'd catch you if both were active.
Sorry, didn'T know that it would be illegal. I just figured it would be like a land line having multiple handsets. Its not like you could use both at same time to call different people. Just didn't want to have to go to another carrier and sign up for whole new plan since both kids are under 10 years old and probably won't use 10 minutes a month combined. Phones would be used to call me our my wife in case something changed with school schedule. Ie club staying late put getting out early.
Open another account in you wifes name and see if you can get a Sero account. Search Sero in the forums to find out hour to so that.
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Sounds good in theory
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You could duplicate the phones, and it would do exactly what you want. However, this is illegal. If your kids have wifi at school, you could just use the many internet based texting and calling apps for android, and you don't even need to worry about adding a line. OR what would be SO cheap. If you just want them to have a phone to contact you in emergencies, just get them prepaid phones. That will be about $10 a month each. Same as adding a line.
My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
Verizon Wireless send new A-Key and AAA Password to combat flashing
So you know im in a wireless family.
I work at T-Mobile Corporate in Redmond, And my brother in New Jersey at verizon.
I personally use an optimus G SPRINT on Verizon Prepaid, Not that I dont like the T-Mobile speed, But lets be honest coverage sucks.
So the 1.5 to 2.5 MBPS nationwide I get on verizon is better. OK Back on point.
So my brother tells me Verizon is actively trying to combat the MIFI flashed to verizon prepaid, On mulitple fronts.
They have contacted ebay, and ebay sellers have been suspended.
And here is the one that sucks for all of us that use verizon prepaid.... They renew and send a new AAA Key every 4 to 7 days.....
And may also resend or renew the A-Key.
What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
Sadly my brother said they are not doing this targeting phone users, Verizon is not stupid they know people flash phones.
But they are targeting JETPACK and MIFI users.
He says in recent weeks they have seen Prepaid accounts that are using over 80GB of data a month on these supposed GUSTO's
So naturally verizon is now cracking down, This is similar to what Sprint and Boost Mobile did with ERROR 16.
Just giving you a heads up, And to flashers who flash the MiFi devices, Verizon is actively searching Craigslist and eBay, One eBay seller is now being sued by verizon and they found him on Craigslist in Salem, Oregon.
Just be careful, I use about 15GB a month on my Optimus and dont have any issues, Beyond having to reflash the info using the guide above once a week or so.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
Hope this helps.
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass for sure...I have, let's say, X Amount of flashed phones around the country...and have been racking my brain trying to make sense out of it...and there's definitely theories all over the place but as this gentleman has described, the phones losing 3g is just collateral damage. I will say that less than 20% of my phones seem to be affected...I have found certain areas to be more troublesome than others, but if flashed correctly the data use doesn't even show up on Verizons side...but that's a different discussion all together. I've seen phones that had to have the data reprogrammed only once about 2 months ago & have not been bothered since, some that have only lasted a few hours each time it was done...it's completely up to Verizon at this point - I think they're rolling the keys based off tower output more than on a schedule though...if a particular tower seems to be sucking up a lot of data (because they can see it from an infastructure level) then they roll the keys on everything connected to that tower. I'm sure they're doing it on some sort of schedule as well, but the truth is, out of all of the devices that I have access to and have been logging behavior on, there is no real pattern at this point.
I honestly don't think they'll keep it up though after they find the heavy duty data abusers. Fiscally it will hurt them badly. As an example, in the past month I've moved about 30 customers from VZPP to an alternate carrier...I'm certain it's a safe assumption that I'm probably one of 10,000 (at least) in the US that do this type of thing on the same scale. If each of us move 30 accounts per month, that's 1.5 million per month in lost revenue per month that they're going to sustain just based off my estimate. That's not counting the 5 here, 5 there, couple over there, etc that are DIYers, etc. I'm guessing my estimate is probably very low...but for the sake of argument it's 1.5 Million in revenue a month that they don't have to advertise for, they don't have to provide tech support for, no customer service, no out of pocket cost except maintenance that they already do anyway. The network is still super fast & reliable, so they're nowhere near capacity obviously, so the beancounters at some point are going to have to evaluate which is the lesser of the two evils and I think the key rolling is going to be the greater. If my estimate is correct, that's 18 million per year in recurring revenue that they get on a total "no sweat" deal - I don't care how big a company is, you can't afford that loss.
It's also a safe assumption that they don't care much about the phones...I know, with my own infastructure knowledge, that given a month with their internal network and I could easily identify 80% or more of the flashed phones operating on it and remove them...considering they have a huge team of IT people and endless resources if they wanted them gone, they would be gone.
I honestly believe that this will eventually blow over as long as the flagrant abusers aren't shoving it in their faces and neener neener neenering them to death with the MiFi's which I've even seen for sale "No Bill" style on Amazon...
and people wonder why it's getting harder & harder to get answers, guides, etc from people that frontline this type of thing....hell I've seen laptops for sale on eBay with downloaded software & guides from this very site as well as others on how to flash "Item X" in a complete do it yourself bundle...then people that selfishly made a couple hundred bucks doing it cry because their stuff don't work anymore.
I figured out a couple of alternate ways to combat it very quickly, and some other solutions to keep people in the unlimited plans cheap but am afraid if I share it openly then it's just going to go viral and cause the same problems again...it wouldn't upset me at all if there were a more advanced "pay section" of this site for the serious people to share with each other & keep this type of thing under control. Just a thought.
androidjunkie71 said:
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass for sure...I have, let's say, X Amount of flashed phones around the country...and have been racking my brain trying to make sense out of it...and there's definitely theories all over the place but as this gentleman has described, the phones losing 3g is just collateral damage. I will say that less than 20% of my phones seem to be affected...I have found certain areas to be more troublesome than others, but if flashed correctly the data use doesn't even show up on Verizons side...but that's a different discussion all together. I've seen phones that had to have the data reprogrammed only once about 2 months ago & have not been bothered since, some that have only lasted a few hours each time it was done...it's completely up to Verizon at this point - I think they're rolling the keys based off tower output more than on a schedule though...if a particular tower seems to be sucking up a lot of data (because they can see it from an infastructure level) then they roll the keys on everything connected to that tower. I'm sure they're doing it on some sort of schedule as well, but the truth is, out of all of the devices that I have access to and have been logging behavior on, there is no real pattern at this point.
I honestly don't think they'll keep it up though after they find the heavy duty data abusers. Fiscally it will hurt them badly. As an example, in the past month I've moved about 30 customers from VZPP to an alternate carrier...I'm certain it's a safe assumption that I'm probably one of 10,000 (at least) in the US that do this type of thing on the same scale. If each of us move 30 accounts per month, that's 1.5 million per month in lost revenue per month that they're going to sustain just based off my estimate. That's not counting the 5 here, 5 there, couple over there, etc that are DIYers, etc. I'm guessing my estimate is probably very low...but for the sake of argument it's 1.5 Million in revenue a month that they don't have to advertise for, they don't have to provide tech support for, no customer service, no out of pocket cost except maintenance that they already do anyway. The network is still super fast & reliable, so they're nowhere near capacity obviously, so the beancounters at some point are going to have to evaluate which is the lesser of the two evils and I think the key rolling is going to be the greater. If my estimate is correct, that's 18 million per year in recurring revenue that they get on a total "no sweat" deal - I don't care how big a company is, you can't afford that loss.
It's also a safe assumption that they don't care much about the phones...I know, with my own infastructure knowledge, that given a month with their internal network and I could easily identify 80% or more of the flashed phones operating on it and remove them...considering they have a huge team of IT people and endless resources if they wanted them gone, they would be gone.
I honestly believe that this will eventually blow over as long as the flagrant abusers aren't shoving it in their faces and neener neener neenering them to death with the MiFi's which I've even seen for sale "No Bill" style on Amazon...
and people wonder why it's getting harder & harder to get answers, guides, etc from people that frontline this type of thing....hell I've seen laptops for sale on eBay with downloaded software & guides from this very site as well as others on how to flash "Item X" in a complete do it yourself bundle...then people that selfishly made a couple hundred bucks doing it cry because their stuff don't work anymore.
I figured out a couple of alternate ways to combat it very quickly, and some other solutions to keep people in the unlimited plans cheap but am afraid if I share it openly then it's just going to go viral and cause the same problems again...it wouldn't upset me at all if there were a more advanced "pay section" of this site for the serious people to share with each other & keep this type of thing under control. Just a thought.
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And your whole point is? This poor individual is trying to find some help and apparently he is not getting anything. Instead you should write a guide on how to extract more data from the Gusto in order to receive the new keys properly. It has happened to me before but speed increased after unlocking the phone. I was on the 35/plan before and it gave me the same error, it lasts for about 2 days and then error 89 shows up, sometimes a day, that was before. I'm unsure why they keep doing this and why isn't the flashed phone getting the new key automatically like the Gusto 2. There must be a way to make this work.
I'm still trying to figure out why Verizon is cracking down on flashed phones when that's clearly more customers.
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I gota the error 16 code when I obtained s-off. Everything worked but text an call it took me to sprint. I just told the lady I did a hard reset to clear all my data. She said ok you r all set now have a good day. RT away text starting coming thru. I did read the due security with radio firmware. Someone else said it's just a way to log users. Idk myself I due know she ask no questions She already knew why I was calling.
so..mmm, where is the easy fix???
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What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
hope this helps.
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i have a vzw 3g phone wich i used to pull the data settings and i have the gusto in its package.
so what can I do... how does the easy fix works??
error 8998 unknown fix!
I USED A VERIZON 3G PHONE (a galaxy 1) I changed the esn/meid using dfs .
It went to the activation process.. no data
did factory reset.
Once rebooted I got 3g.
put it on the computer again and using DFS i looked and there was like 6 new PASSWORDS!!!
PAP, PPP, HDR AN, HDR AN LONG , HDR AN PPP AND The ones where the profile is edited.
i simply reflashed my d710 with the new info and got go sms for the mms.
Working good as usual
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I USED A VERIZON 3G PHONE (a galaxy 1) I changed the esn/meid using dfs .
It went to the activation process.. no data
did factory reset.
Once rebooted I got 3g.
put it on the computer again and using DFS i looked and there was like 6 new PASSWORDS!!!
PAP, PPP, HDR AN, HDR AN LONG , HDR AN PPP AND The ones where the profile is edited.
i simply reflashed my d710 with the new info and got go sms for the mms.
Working good as usual
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Verizon changed again the passwords.... thanks to my fascinate i got everything again... but the flash doesnt work anymore with my d710 sprint phone... looks like verizon added more security..
im stuck using my old i500...
susy1990 said:
My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
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I'm on the same boot, i keep getting error 89 and my phone is on roaming, unfortunately i don't have the donor
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susy1990 said:
My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
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TechSoft said:
So you know im in a wireless family.
I work at T-Mobile Corporate in Redmond, And my brother in New Jersey at verizon.
I personally use an optimus G SPRINT on Verizon Prepaid, Not that I dont like the T-Mobile speed, But lets be honest coverage sucks.
So the 1.5 to 2.5 MBPS nationwide I get on verizon is better. OK Back on point.
So my brother tells me Verizon is actively trying to combat the MIFI flashed to verizon prepaid, On mulitple fronts.
They have contacted ebay, and ebay sellers have been suspended.
And here is the one that sucks for all of us that use verizon prepaid.... They renew and send a new AAA Key every 4 to 7 days.....
And may also resend or renew the A-Key.
What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
Sadly my brother said they are not doing this targeting phone users, Verizon is not stupid they know people flash phones.
But they are targeting JETPACK and MIFI users.
He says in recent weeks they have seen Prepaid accounts that are using over 80GB of data a month on these supposed GUSTO's
So naturally verizon is now cracking down, This is similar to what Sprint and Boost Mobile did with ERROR 16.
Just giving you a heads up, And to flashers who flash the MiFi devices, Verizon is actively searching Craigslist and eBay, One eBay seller is now being sued by verizon and they found him on Craigslist in Salem, Oregon.
Just be careful, I use about 15GB a month on my Optimus and dont have any issues, Beyond having to reflash the info using the guide above once a week or so.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
Hope this helps.
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that's not what the OP asked
Looking to switch from my Note 3 to G3 tomorrow before work. Only thing stopping me is I forgot whether or not tethering is still free or if that's only when rooted(which I know we have) and ROM'd.
I have unlimited(will be using parents upgrade cause they don't care about phones and still both have the LG enV 3) of course so it's non issue in terms of paying extra for easily going over the data cap.
And WOW. I was expecting going in and paying 200bucks. Had no idea it was 99 on contract.
Edit - A mod can move this to the questions section, I completely forgot. Sorry!
Benjamin150 said:
Looking to switch from my Note 3 to G3 tomorrow before work. Only thing stopping me is I forgot whether or not tethering is still free or if that's only when rooted(which I know we have) and ROM'd.
I have unlimited(will be using parents upgrade cause they don't care about phones and still both have the LG enV 3) of course so it's non issue in terms of paying extra for easily going over the data cap.
And WOW. I was expecting going in and paying 200bucks. Had no idea it was 99 on contract.
Edit - A mod can move this to the questions section, I completely forgot. Sorry!
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tethering is not free, you will need to be rooted but there is a hack and its easy. just follow this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwAM3V7I64
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tethering is not free, you will need to be rooted but there is a hack and its easy. just follow this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwAM3V7I64
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Okay, awesome. Thanks!
WiFi Tether Router, on play store, is another option. A simpler install (Just run the apk), and you don't have to reset/change settings each time you run it.
Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
davedude44 said:
Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
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This is exactly what I did.
I've been looking but there's a bunch of these apps which one do we know is the right one?
markfm said:
WiFi Tether Router, on play store, is another option. A simpler install (Just run the apk), and you don't have to reset/change settings each time you run it.
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The one I use is actually called WiFi Tether Router. Fabio Grasso is the developer.
markfm said:
The one I use is actually called WiFi Tether Router. Fabio Grasso is the developer.
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Using it too.
The only thing, I wish it had a widget.
davedude44 said:
Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
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Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
mactechnm said:
Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
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Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
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Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
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I did a transfer of an upgrade online day before G3 was released...I. Still have unlimited.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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This is just not true if you do it manually. I have done it two times in as many months (once being today actually). Each line is considered a contract so Verizon can't remove and add features without your concent.
How are you proposing they take away the unlimited data if the phone is switched? Instantly or manually by you guys? Also, what about the people who sell their phones? Wouldn't that take anyone's unlimited data if it was then activated on the recipients account?
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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What you have explained is confusing at best and misinformation at worst.
Upgrading a line and the moving the phone to a line with unlimited will never modify the target line.
You have just changed equipment. As long as the line is compatible with the device moving to the line there is no issue.
Alternate line upgrades move the upgrade to another line.
The contract gets extended on the original line but you don't lose the unlimited data.
Move the phone back to the original line and there is no issue.
Unlimited data is a feature and they cannot change features without consent from the line holder.
Also you you can swap the SIM card at will for an unlimited line with no effect.
Bringing equipment to an unlimited line (as long as the equipment is valid) does nothing.
It's treated like customer owned equipment.
If what you are saying is true, then buying a subsidized phone from another individual will cause changes on your plan.
It does not.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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Go on slickdeals and search Verizon unlimited there you will find a godly amount of people keeping unlimited including myself on all 3 of my lines doing it the bestbuy glitch way so you are definitely spreading false information. ..........
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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aj522 said:
I did a transfer of an upgrade online day before G3 was released...I. Still have unlimited.
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jal3223 said:
This is just not true if you do it manually. I have done it two times in as many months (once being today actually). Each line is considered a contract so Verizon can't remove and add features without your concent.
How are you proposing they take away the unlimited data if the phone is switched? Instantly or manually by you guys? Also, what about the people who sell their phones? Wouldn't that take anyone's unlimited data if it was then activated on the recipients account?
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What you have explained is confusing at best and misinformation at worst.
Upgrading a line and the moving the phone to a line with unlimited will never modify the target line.
You have just changed equipment. As long as the line is compatible with the device moving to the line there is no issue.
Alternate line upgrades move the upgrade to another line.
The contract gets extended on the original line but you don't lose the unlimited data.
Move the phone back to the original line and there is no issue.
Unlimited data is a feature and they cannot change features without consent from the line holder.
Also you you can swap the SIM card at will for an unlimited line with no effect.
Bringing equipment to an unlimited line (as long as the equipment is valid) does nothing.
It's treated like customer owned equipment.
If what you are saying is true, then buying a subsidized phone from another individual will cause changes on your plan.
It does not.
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Go on slickdeals and search Verizon unlimited there you will find a godly amount of people keeping unlimited including myself on all 3 of my lines doing it the bestbuy glitch way so you are definitely spreading false information. ..........
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The guy is obviously a troll and it is pretty obvious he works at Verizon...he's full of misinformation to try to scare people off unlimited. Sorry to go offopic...
Actually guys what he is saying might have a little bit of truth to it. I bought my G3 on launch day at my local corporate store. I'm a unlimited user and had a line with a upgrade so was going to upgrade it then have them switch the phones and put my basic phone back on. They didn't want to do it, since I'm good friends with a few of them they went ahead but told me the exact same thing this guy is telling us. They said they are not allowed to do that anymore. I stated to them what makes the difference after I leave to switch SIM cards out and call them and have them put basic service on the other line. What makes the difference if I break this phone and need to swap it out for one of my others. They said outside the store u can do what u want, they just ain't suppose to anymore in the store so hopefully this clears up a little of what this guy is saying.
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mactechnm said:
Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
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LOL Wut? See attachment for my Chat from the week the G3 was released.
I did it and still am showing unlimited data.
tech_head said:
Using it too.
The only thing, I wish it had a widget.
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There is a widget. I placed it on my home screen and 1 press of the icon and it automatically turns on. I don't have to go into the app to turn it on or off.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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I have 4 lines. 2 are my primary and 2 are dummy lines. My 2 primary are on month to month. My 2 dummy lines are eligible for upgrade. I used those lines to get the LG G3. Activated it on my dummy lines. Deactivated them and put it on my primary. Put back my dummy phones and I still have unlimited which is still month to month. Dummy lines are eligible for upgrade in 2016
I have a SGP621, been reading the posts on here but none seem to answer some of the questions I have. I do appologize if seems like some of this info I could just get myself by visiting the stores, unfortunately I have very bad experiences with AT&T sales reps, I always seem to have halfwits who know less about the phones and plans their selling then I do. plus I work almost every day, I dont have the time wait half an hour between each question so the the reps can all play "pass the question" in the hopes that the person to their left knows the answer. its irritating, frustrating, and your own personal experiences would give me a much better picture.
Also, it seems I'm one of the few who fall in the opposite category of what seems to be everyone else who bought the SGP621, I actually don't want to use it as a phone at all, I'm just tired of tethering. Ideally, I'd be happiest with a data only plan, even better if doing so could save me some cash.
AT&T questions:
Can I just get a data plan/add it as a tablet?
As a phone...would/could it be the same number as my normal phone? 2 separate numbers?
Jgonzo432 said:
Yeah, it's the same on the Z3TC. I didn't accept the download because I don't want my settings changed so I can't confirm if it has RedPocket , H2O and ATT etc...
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whats this about? is this necessary? what does it change?
How much is it to add to an existing family plan?
how much of a data usage increase do you see with this on your plan?
T-Mobile questions:
Roughly how much for the data only plan?
is it worth it considering I already have a plan with AT&T?
That's exactly what I have with tmobile... Data only... Twenty bucks a month for 1gb, and that does include the free music streaming service
Well incase anyone was wondering, I did actually have some time today. since I already have a mobile share plan with AT&T adding my tablet was pretty cheap.
Its $10 for a tablet (data only), $15 for a phone (phone+data)
When they stuck a sim card in my tablet, AT&T gets confused, classifying it as 2 different things on 2 different levels and thus they could not simply add it. Instead they had to use the serial from one of the instore display devices, so they gave me the option to classify it as a tablet or phone. Even though I was planning to go tablet, 5 dollar diff? i went phone. seems to be working fine so far.
Consider the $15/mo tablet data plan thru Harbor Mobile ($15 for 5GBs). They are simply reselling a T-Mo business line I believe and could prob go under and leave you hanging at any moment...but if you don't have a phone number to lose, who cares.