Looking to switch from my Note 3 to G3 tomorrow before work. Only thing stopping me is I forgot whether or not tethering is still free or if that's only when rooted(which I know we have) and ROM'd.
I have unlimited(will be using parents upgrade cause they don't care about phones and still both have the LG enV 3) of course so it's non issue in terms of paying extra for easily going over the data cap.
And WOW. I was expecting going in and paying 200bucks. Had no idea it was 99 on contract.
Edit - A mod can move this to the questions section, I completely forgot. Sorry!
Benjamin150 said:
Looking to switch from my Note 3 to G3 tomorrow before work. Only thing stopping me is I forgot whether or not tethering is still free or if that's only when rooted(which I know we have) and ROM'd.
I have unlimited(will be using parents upgrade cause they don't care about phones and still both have the LG enV 3) of course so it's non issue in terms of paying extra for easily going over the data cap.
And WOW. I was expecting going in and paying 200bucks. Had no idea it was 99 on contract.
Edit - A mod can move this to the questions section, I completely forgot. Sorry!
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tethering is not free, you will need to be rooted but there is a hack and its easy. just follow this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwAM3V7I64
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tethering is not free, you will need to be rooted but there is a hack and its easy. just follow this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwAM3V7I64
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Okay, awesome. Thanks!
WiFi Tether Router, on play store, is another option. A simpler install (Just run the apk), and you don't have to reset/change settings each time you run it.
Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
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Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
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This is exactly what I did.
I've been looking but there's a bunch of these apps which one do we know is the right one?
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WiFi Tether Router, on play store, is another option. A simpler install (Just run the apk), and you don't have to reset/change settings each time you run it.
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The one I use is actually called WiFi Tether Router. Fabio Grasso is the developer.
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The one I use is actually called WiFi Tether Router. Fabio Grasso is the developer.
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Using it too.
The only thing, I wish it had a widget.
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Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
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Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
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Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
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Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
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Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
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I did a transfer of an upgrade online day before G3 was released...I. Still have unlimited.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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This is just not true if you do it manually. I have done it two times in as many months (once being today actually). Each line is considered a contract so Verizon can't remove and add features without your concent.
How are you proposing they take away the unlimited data if the phone is switched? Instantly or manually by you guys? Also, what about the people who sell their phones? Wouldn't that take anyone's unlimited data if it was then activated on the recipients account?
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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What you have explained is confusing at best and misinformation at worst.
Upgrading a line and the moving the phone to a line with unlimited will never modify the target line.
You have just changed equipment. As long as the line is compatible with the device moving to the line there is no issue.
Alternate line upgrades move the upgrade to another line.
The contract gets extended on the original line but you don't lose the unlimited data.
Move the phone back to the original line and there is no issue.
Unlimited data is a feature and they cannot change features without consent from the line holder.
Also you you can swap the SIM card at will for an unlimited line with no effect.
Bringing equipment to an unlimited line (as long as the equipment is valid) does nothing.
It's treated like customer owned equipment.
If what you are saying is true, then buying a subsidized phone from another individual will cause changes on your plan.
It does not.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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Go on slickdeals and search Verizon unlimited there you will find a godly amount of people keeping unlimited including myself on all 3 of my lines doing it the bestbuy glitch way so you are definitely spreading false information. ..........
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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I did a transfer of an upgrade online day before G3 was released...I. Still have unlimited.
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This is just not true if you do it manually. I have done it two times in as many months (once being today actually). Each line is considered a contract so Verizon can't remove and add features without your concent.
How are you proposing they take away the unlimited data if the phone is switched? Instantly or manually by you guys? Also, what about the people who sell their phones? Wouldn't that take anyone's unlimited data if it was then activated on the recipients account?
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What you have explained is confusing at best and misinformation at worst.
Upgrading a line and the moving the phone to a line with unlimited will never modify the target line.
You have just changed equipment. As long as the line is compatible with the device moving to the line there is no issue.
Alternate line upgrades move the upgrade to another line.
The contract gets extended on the original line but you don't lose the unlimited data.
Move the phone back to the original line and there is no issue.
Unlimited data is a feature and they cannot change features without consent from the line holder.
Also you you can swap the SIM card at will for an unlimited line with no effect.
Bringing equipment to an unlimited line (as long as the equipment is valid) does nothing.
It's treated like customer owned equipment.
If what you are saying is true, then buying a subsidized phone from another individual will cause changes on your plan.
It does not.
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Go on slickdeals and search Verizon unlimited there you will find a godly amount of people keeping unlimited including myself on all 3 of my lines doing it the bestbuy glitch way so you are definitely spreading false information. ..........
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The guy is obviously a troll and it is pretty obvious he works at Verizon...he's full of misinformation to try to scare people off unlimited. Sorry to go offopic...
Actually guys what he is saying might have a little bit of truth to it. I bought my G3 on launch day at my local corporate store. I'm a unlimited user and had a line with a upgrade so was going to upgrade it then have them switch the phones and put my basic phone back on. They didn't want to do it, since I'm good friends with a few of them they went ahead but told me the exact same thing this guy is telling us. They said they are not allowed to do that anymore. I stated to them what makes the difference after I leave to switch SIM cards out and call them and have them put basic service on the other line. What makes the difference if I break this phone and need to swap it out for one of my others. They said outside the store u can do what u want, they just ain't suppose to anymore in the store so hopefully this clears up a little of what this guy is saying.
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Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
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LOL Wut? See attachment for my Chat from the week the G3 was released.
I did it and still am showing unlimited data.
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Using it too.
The only thing, I wish it had a widget.
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There is a widget. I placed it on my home screen and 1 press of the icon and it automatically turns on. I don't have to go into the app to turn it on or off.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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I have 4 lines. 2 are my primary and 2 are dummy lines. My 2 primary are on month to month. My 2 dummy lines are eligible for upgrade. I used those lines to get the LG G3. Activated it on my dummy lines. Deactivated them and put it on my primary. Put back my dummy phones and I still have unlimited which is still month to month. Dummy lines are eligible for upgrade in 2016
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Just a heads up guys, the penny price works even for adding a line.
Yea, but not upgrade price, which is what most people are doing. $229 to upgrade for those of you that have been waiting! http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B0061...f_rd_i=G001&pf_rd_p=1332536882&pf_rd_s=left-5
Yeah, but if you're already on a family account, it's a cheap way to get a new phone. $10/month ($240) + $.01 + Cheap dumbphone (to cancel data). and you still come out way less than $299 and especially $649
Just switched back to Verizon and picked two of these up from Amazon for a penny each!! Sprint let me out of my contract because their service is abysmal. They'll be here in 2 days!!! Can't wait!!!!
only for new accounts?... that sucks. I was ready to return this & then order from amazon. oh well.
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only for new accounts?... that sucks. I was ready to return this & then order from amazon. oh well.
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I added a line to get mine from verizon, did the same thing on amazon today and will be taking mine back to VZW as soon as it gets here
I am not trying to have a bunch of lines, I already have 4 and only use 3, lol. Luckily since I have a Military/Veteran account I can call and suspend a line for as long as I damn well please for free. But, I would rather pay the $10/month until it goes away, or my girlfriend finally decides to ditch Metro PCS and her Huwaei wannabe smartphone.
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I am not trying to have a bunch of lines, I already have 4 and only use 3, lol. Luckily since I have a Military/Veteran account I can call and suspend a line for as long as I damn well please for free. But, I would rather pay the $10/month until it goes away, or my girlfriend finally decides to ditch Metro PCS and her Huwaei wannabe smartphone.
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Haha, no kidding. Yeah, 10 bucks a month isn't that bad. No point in suspending it.
how does that work with adding a line anyway?
i see the option on amazon labelled "Add a line - to my family account" yet i just have the 1 line right now... so i don't believe it's considered a 'family' thing.
voxigenboy said:
how does that work with adding a line anyway?
i see the option on amazon labelled "Add a line - to my family account" yet i just have the 1 line right now... so i don't believe it's considered a 'family' thing.
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I believe once you add a line to an individual account, you will need to choose from a Family Share plan. You might want to be careful with doing so in case you have been grandfathered in with Unlimited Data though.
I have three lines right now on a family plan with my GF and the third I use as a "home" phone. Thinking about adding another to get a Rezound now.
Marcismo55 said:
I believe once you add a line to an individual account, you will need to choose from a Family Share plan. You might want to be careful with doing so in case you have been grandfathered in with Unlimited Data though.
I have three lines right now on a family plan with my GF and the third I use as a "home" phone. Thinking about adding another to get a Rezound now.
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hmm.. i would worry about the unlimited data(only reason i switched to verizon).
was thinking about canning my t-mobile account & switching over... although on t-mobile i still have that '5 favs' thing + unlimited internet & pay $44/month on it... so unless i could get a better value on verizon then maybe i should just keep it.
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I believe once you add a line to an individual account, you will need to choose from a Family Share plan. You might want to be careful with doing so in case you have been grandfathered in with Unlimited Data though.
I have three lines right now on a family plan with my GF and the third I use as a "home" phone. Thinking about adding another to get a Rezound now.
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I don't see why his voice plan would mess with his data at all. It didn't affect mine.
If you have a family share plan you get 10 favorite people you share. My mom, my brother and I use a combined ~750 minutes/month. I barely make phone calls unless they are for school/work/etc.
meh, i paid $267 on release day fo rthis phone, and i'm not even having any buyers remorse that's making me want to go return it and try to get it online for a penny lol
If you add a new line don't you still need to add a data plan?
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I don't see why his voice plan would mess with his data at all. It didn't affect mine.
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I'm not saying it would, but if he/she currently does have unlimited data they may want to verify they would not lose unlimited. It is a possibility changing a Voice Plan could alter that and I would think it could be different than just upgrading a phone and maintaining your same plan (even with an additional line).
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If you have a family share plan you get 10 favorite people you share. My mom, my brother and I use a combined ~750 minutes/month. I barely make phone calls unless they are for school/work/etc.
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Tell me about it...I got hooked up with this Promo plan VZW offered earlier this year and I have 1400 mins when we only use 400. It's nice to have more than you need!
Dsoto87 said:
If you add a new line don't you still need to add a data plan?
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Yeah but If you have multiple lines there might be some moves you can make to get things sorted.
Dsoto87 said:
If you add a new line don't you still need to add a data plan?
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Yes, but you can later move that new line to a dumbphone and cancel data no problem.
Sorry for all the questions but i've never done this before. If I opened a new line, how would it affect my current line that it would be moved to, which is an unlimited 3g plan?
Dsoto87 said:
Sorry for all the questions but i've never done this before. If I opened a new line, how would it affect my current line that it would be moved to, which is an unlimited 3g plan?
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You would have to change whatever voice plan you have to a family plan.
Your data feature would stay as it is attached to your current line.
The new line would be a new number with a $9.99 monthly fee + whatever features you attach to that line ($30 data for example).
Oh ok. I already have a family plan. Basically I'd like to know if I'll be grandfathered into an unlimited 4g plan or will I have to choose a tiered one.
And for my 1000th post I wish to impart upon you all the knowledge I have just gained this afternoon.
If you upgrade you can keep your unlimited data if you add a home phone line for $20/mo. according the the guy at the Verizon store today.
Went in there to try to get my phone replaced under warranty, which they wouldn't do since it has a cracked screen, threatened to leave VZW and was offered an early upgrade. After I asked if my plan would change he said yes, it would go down to 2gb, but then he told me if I added a home phone line I could have unlimited. I have a home phone with AT&T so I'll just port my number over and I'll be set. (I did buy a Magic Jack that I keep forgetting to hook up but I can sell that and hopefully get a refund for the months of service I paid for.)
EDIT: The phone service is a wireless service. According to jayochs it's called Home Phone Connect.
You mean a land line?
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You mean a land line?
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EDIT: Nope. It's wireless phone for your home, you use a regular phone on a wireless thing.
I will have to do that next time
Last upgrade (when I upgraded to the rezound) my unlimited data carried over, and the lady said that she had never seen that happen before, but I will have to try this if they try to take it away)
I call fibs
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That's some shady **** right there. I have unlimited and had my phone replaced under warranty with no issues. Don't go into the store when doing warranty stuff.
I wonder if Verizon is offering incentives to their store employees to get people off unlimited data. This isn't the first time I've heard of them telling ppl they won't warranty a phone if they don't switch off unlimited
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All you need to do is an alternate upgrade then put the new device back on your line.
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I dont believe it!!! I work for verizon communications (non wireless) and never heard of that. The only thing wireless does for us is fios. Was it a copper landline or fios? Either way if you kept your unlimited data, thats great! Did they give you a contract on the landline?
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That's some shady **** right there. I have unlimited and had my phone replaced under warranty with no issues. Don't go into the store when doing warranty stuff.
I wonder if Verizon is offering incentives to their store employees to get people off unlimited data. This isn't the first time I've heard of them telling ppl they won't warranty a phone if they don't switch off unlimited
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Sorry, didn't mention my screen is cracked. He said if he did it I'd just get charged for it later so they don't do it anymore.
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I dont believe it!!! I work for verizon communications (non wireless) and never heard of that. The only thing wireless does for us is fios. Was it a copper landline or fios? Either way if you kept your unlimited data, thats great! Did they give you a contract on the landline?
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I'd have to buy a wireless router/receiver(?) for $12 and the phone service is wireless. So technically I guess it isn't a land line... it's home phone service, $20/mo., call waiting, caller ID, nationwide calling...
Still thinking it through and wondering if that's better to pick up a new phone with new contract or buy a used one and keep unlimited without adding the home phone line. Plus I have to decide between the 2 phones he offered me for the same price but I don't want to hijack my own thread.
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Sorry, didn't mention my screen is cracked. He said if he did it I'd just get charged for it later so they don't do it anymore.
I'd have to buy a wireless router/receiver(?) for $12 and the phone service is wireless. So technically I guess it isn't a land line... it's home phone service, $20/mo., call waiting, caller ID, nationwide calling...
Still thinking it through and wondering if that's better to pick up a new phone with new contract or buy a used one and keep unlimited without adding the home phone line. Plus I have to decide between the 2 phones he offered me for the same price but I don't want to hijack my own thread.
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that's called home phone connect. it's a little box that you can bring anywhere and it uses verizons network to make calls, but you can plug normal landline phones into it.
lol my store gives those boxes away for free. you just have to pay that 20 a month, and you get the reciever for nothin
That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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yeah i think so..it's added like another line to your acct, just like a tablet/jetpack etc
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that's called home phone connect. it's a little box that you can bring anywhere and it uses verizons network to make calls, but you can plug normal landline phones into it.
lol my store gives those boxes away for free. you just have to pay that 20 a month, and you get the reciever for nothin
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Well why don't you come open your damn store in Los Angeles then???
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That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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yeah i think so..it's added like another line to your acct, just like a tablet/jetpack etc
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Well there goes my plan of trying to do that cancel thingy like on the hotspot and keep my unlimited. Doesn't sound like it would've worked anyway, seems any change triggers the loss of unlimited from what I've read.
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All you need to do is an alternate upgrade then put the new device back on your line.
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I don't understand. Can you explain what an alternate upgrade is?
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I don't understand. Can you explain what an alternate upgrade is?
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they mean if you have a family plan and another line has the upgrade, you take that, but you upgrade it on that other line...then just do an ESN change to put it to your line, thereby keeping unlimited data, but f'ing up our commissions. lol
i don't do that for customers because then i lose ALL of the commission i would've made. verizon wants you to do alternate upgrades instead of just ESN changes. my store would get charged back all that commission money from verizon at the end of the month because it's not a technical upgrade. if you can find someone who's dumb enough to do it for you, then so be it.....but when you order yourself online, you don't have this problem. only when you goto a store with a physical salesman.
I have read so many threads on unlimited data. Things about being able to keep unlimited on a non family plan, being able to keep it if you pay full retail, this, etc. I am confused. How do I keep it. I certainly don't want this useless box to connect my land phone to lol.
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a store with a physical salesman.
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If my salesman gets physical he's gonna lose a hell of a lot more than his commission.
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If my salesman gets physical he's gonna lose a hell of a lot more than his commission.
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Something tells me you can get very scary .
On a side note, I have one of these, works great. I keep a cordless phone plugged into it and I backfed it into my house wiring for another phone I have.
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I have read so many threads on unlimited data. Things about being able to keep unlimited on a non family plan, being able to keep it if you pay full retail, this, etc. I am confused. How do I keep it. I certainly don't want this useless box to connect my land phone to lol.
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Don't do anything that modifies your contract and they won't take it away from you. Any other way will be depending on some type of promotion or special allowance. Buy a phone without using an upgrade (either by paying full price or buying used) and you'll keep unlimited data. Using an upgrade discount triggers a contract modification and you lose it.
Okay I have a few ideas about getting a discounted phone and keeping unlimited data. First off my line is available for an upgrade this November, and another member of my family has an upgrade now, they do not have a smartphone now but will be getting a smartphone with 2gb data. So my first idea is once they get there upgrade, wait until mine is available and then transfer it to their line and have them upgrade again, and then I take that phone and put my sim card into it. Now I'm not sure, but I think the problem with that is when transferring my upgrade and having someone use it, will extend my contract and bump me to tired data, which I can't have happen. So if any of you have tried this method and had success I would really appreciate if you could tell me exactly how you did it.
The other method I read about was having a rep transfer the unlimited data plan to a tired data plan within the family and transferring the tired to the used to be unlimited, and then upgrading with tired data, and then switching the respective data plans back and maintaining unlimited data.
Again if anyone has had any luck with any of these ideas, or were able to keep your unlimited and get a subsidized phone another way, I would really appreciate it if you could leave a detailed response.
Thanks!!
You can use the other person's upgrade no problem, but if anyone uses yours, you will need a new contract and lose unlimited. I don't know about the more complex tiered data switching scheme... sounds like something that might work if the reps were feeling very charitable.
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You can use the other person's upgrade no problem, but if anyone uses yours, you will need a new contract and lose unlimited. I don't know about the more complex tiered data switching scheme... sounds like something that might work if the reps were feeling very charitable.
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Friend, just go to Gazelle and get a nice used phone for a couple hundred bucks and call it a day.
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You can use another family members upgrade by swapping phones after they upgrade, but you can't give your upgrade to someone else without losing unlimited. So either you convince your family member to give them your upgrade and you give them your old phone, you don't have many other options.
Thanks everyone. It sucks Verizon is doing this to its grandfathered users, but I guess I will just have to keep using the Thunderbolt until I have enough to buy a phone of contract.
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Thanks everyone. It sucks Verizon is doing this to its grandfathered users, but I guess I will just have to keep using the Thunderbolt until I have enough to buy a phone of contract.
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Hell yeah, I used 8 gb last month w/ wifi tether...not giving that up for no one lol
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heath2805 said:
Hell yeah, I used 8 gb last month w/ wifi tether...not giving that up for no one lol
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The funny thing is, I typically use around 3GB per month, even when I tether. I just hate the idea of always checking how much data I used to ensure that I don't go over!
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The funny thing is, I typically use around 3GB per month, even when I tether. I just hate the idea of always checking how much data I used to ensure that I don't go over!
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I'm kind of in the same boat. I am pretty much always on wifi now because I work from home, but I don't want to lose unlimited data in case I ever feel like using more data again. Been considering making a switch over to T-Mobile next time I feel like upgrading.
arrghushakaboorga said:
I'm kind of in the same boat. I am pretty much always on wifi now because I work from home, but I don't want to lose unlimited data in case I ever feel like using more data again. Been considering making a switch over to T-Mobile next time I feel like upgrading.
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I would love to switch to T-Mobile, but I'm about 15 minutes from the city so I only get 2G here, and I could never live with that. If you do go T-Mobile, I'd check out either the $30/mo. for 100 minutes with unlimited text and data, or the $50 unlimited everything.
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I would love to switch to T-Mobile, but I'm about 15 minutes from the city so I only get 2G here, and I could never live with that. If you do go T-Mobile, I'd check out either the $30/mo. for 100 minutes with unlimited text and data, or the $50 unlimited everything.
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I'm contemplating checking their service out. $50 unlimited everything works well for me since I do make fair use of minutes at times (mostly work-related). If their service in my area is good, I could see getting the Note 2 from them rather than buy it unsubsidized from Verizon.
Regarding the earlier comment about giving your upgrade to someone else, have you verified this? I had read through the grapevine an ok workaround was to transfer your upgrade to another line, use it, then activate it on your line again to bypass all the stuff. Just don't want to try the wrong thing when the time comes and get spanked for it hah.
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Regarding the earlier comment about giving your upgrade to someone else, have you verified this? I had read through the grapevine an ok workaround was to transfer your upgrade to another line, use it, then activate it on your line again to bypass all the stuff. Just don't want to try the wrong thing when the time comes and get spanked for it hah.
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If memory serves me correct it will lock you in for a 2 year contract so you would end up paying for 2 separate lines that way but I am not totally sure there.
Oh, we have the lines. And dumbphones on them that are used (grandparents on jitterbug like phones...heh) I know I can get away with upgrading one of those lines, then activating it on mine. I was just hoping someone had tried transferring the upgrade from smartphone to another line, upgrading, then activating back on real line. In essence, still using your own upgrading and just subverting contractual stuff by doing all the action on another line.
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I'm contemplating checking their service out. $50 unlimited everything works well for me since I do make fair use of minutes at times (mostly work-related). If their service in my area is good, I could see getting the Note 2 from them rather than buy it unsubsidized from Verizon.
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You should check out the T-mobile thread in the Galaxy S3 section before switching. There are a lot of comments regarding the poor quality of service.
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You should check out the T-mobile thread in the Galaxy S3 section before switching. There are a lot of comments regarding the poor quality of service.
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Think that has to do with the Samsung radio gripe which is really hit and miss but can be a problem. My mom has a g nex that gets a little flaky at times at home because of it. Before I put the update on it basically it was a coaster in my hosue
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You should check out the T-mobile thread in the Galaxy S3 section before switching. There are a lot of comments regarding the poor quality of service.
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I'll need to take a look at that and Note 2 discussion on T-Mobile. My area is possibly iffy for T-Mobile, which is why I'm concerned. AT&T was historically a problem. Verizon has had the best coverage at home so I'm reluctant to move away from them.
I'm trying to help my brother upgrade from a very old windows phone to a rezound and trying to get him to keep his unlimited data plan. Our parents live in an extremely rural area that doesnt have 4g. I saw posts in the past about people being able to keep their unlimited plans if they were in 3g areas.
Can anyone help or give advice as far doing an upgrade and keeping the older unlimited plan?
Much appreciated.
I don't know anything about getting it with 3G but I do know that if you get a home phone with Verizon they will let you have unlimited on your cell phone. It's $19/mo for nationwide calling. So if you have a home phone you can port that number over and it's no more expensive. If you don't have one and have to add it well, then it's going to cost that much more for unlimited.
You can't activate a 4G phone without a data plan and they are not allowing anyone to upgrade from 3G to 4G phones and keep their unlimited data. If there was a loop hole, I'm sure it would be posted online somewhere.
yeah, there's physically no way in our system to do it..maybe if you get like 5 levels up on customer service you could try though lol
ive always wondered this, hopefully someone can answer:
If I use someone else's upgrade on my line(on same account), will their plan change?
You can on AT&T!! I've done it a few times
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ive always wondered this, hopefully someone can answer:
If I use someone else's upgrade on my line(on same account), will their plan change?
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nope just extends the contract
That's some bull that Verizon is pulling that crap. When I had my droid x my plan was also for 4g. You pay for the plan not the phone. I would sue them in small claims court for breach of contract.
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nope just extends the contract
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sweet, maybe ill be getting the DNA after all
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sweet, maybe ill be getting the DNA after all
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i'd love to..but that no sd card slot..meh lol
Rockstad said:
You can on AT&T!! I've done it a few times
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Nobody here has AT&T, this is a truly non helpful post.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
demmo86rt said:
Nobody here has AT&T, this is a truly non helpful post.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
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Considering this is a global phone, you never know who might be on whatever carrier.
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i'd love to..but that no sd card slot..meh lol
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Same here. I barely have room for 8gb plus my 64gb
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Considering this is a global phone, you never know who might be on whatever carrier.
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Global radios doesn't make it any less of a verizon phone
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If you are using an upgrade on your account you do not keep unlimited and it doesn't extend your contract. When you upgrade you also sign up for a new contract. You are misinformed.
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If you are using an upgrade on your account you do not keep unlimited and it doesn't extend your contract. When you upgrade you also sign up for a new contract. You are misinformed.
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You're talking semantics here and, seeing as how he manages a Verizon reseller, he probably knows what he is taking about.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
mjones73 said:
You can't activate a 4G phone without a data plan and they are not allowing anyone to upgrade from 3G to 4G phones and keep their unlimited data. If there was a loop hole, I'm sure it would be posted online somewhere.
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I got upgraded from 3g to 4g then called customer service telling her i didn't know they'd put me on tiered. She explained that for two weeks you can change things back. She did it for me. But I purchased a thunderbolt off contract and did it
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You're talking semantics here and, seeing as how he manages a Verizon reseller, he probably knows what he is taking about.
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It's not semantics, it's Verizon policy. If you have an upgrade on any line on your account and you use it, you are then signing a new two year contract. A new contract with no unlimited where you are forced into a share plan.
That isn't a guess or semantics. That's exactly how it is.
If it wasn't, then you'd never lose unlimited ever because you can just upgrade on other lines until the end of time. You do realize how stupid that sounds right?
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It's not semantics, it's Verizon policy. If you have an upgrade on any line on your account and you use it, you are then signing a new two year contract. A new contract with no unlimited where you are forced into a share plan.
That isn't a guess or semantics. That's exactly how it is.
If it wasn't, then you'd never lose unlimited ever because you can just upgrade on other lines until the end of time. You do realize how stupid that sounds right?
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You can do that, upgrade on a secondary line, transfer the phone to your line, new phone, unlimited data. You are not forced into a shared plan, you can choose an individual tiered plan. If you have another line already on tiered data or willing to give up unlimited and their upgrade, you can use it and keep your unlimited. Please stop being wrong.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
Holy hell, NO YOU CAN'T. You cannot upgrade a secondary line and still maintain your current contract. If you add a line, it's a new two year agreement. When you upgrade a line with a subsidized price phone, it is a new two year agreement. THAT'S WHY THE PHONE IS SUBSIDIZED. That is how it works.
You really have no clue what you are saying. So stop.
Edit: Also, you can't be on individual tiered data when you have multiple lines anymore. You were able to add new lines at tiered data at one point but can't do that anymore. So any new line additions or upgrades force your entire family plan into a shared data plan. See how that works?
Again, stop speaking.
Yes some are bone heads but some aren't. Here's my recent experience.
I have 4 phones on my account with a 10 gig shared data plan. My daughter wanted to move from Sprint to Verizon so my wife and I went to a Verizon store to help her through the transaction. One of the first things I do when I talk to one of the CS reps is state my position and what I want from this conversation with him/her. I like to see what they know or don't know. My rep, John, saw that I wasn't an average clueless customer and he immediately shifted into a smarter mode. Kudos for that.
So, my daughter decides on a Moto X. He runs the numbers and quickly figures out that it's much cheaper for her to join our family plan. No problem, we'll do that. She now pays us monthly for 1/5 of the total bill.
Then he pulls this one: "I'd like for you to look at the Edge plan for that Moto X." Ok, I'm not dumb, I've read all about the Edge plan. Yes it's no contract and yes you can switch to a new phone after a year but you pay for the phone as you go. I've looked at the numbers and it never makes sense to get Edge unless you just can't wait to upgrade phones. But boy do you pay for it.
Right now my opinion of John is changing. He's trying to pull a fast one. So I object saying, "I'm not interested in Edge." He comes back with, "What if I can prove it saves you money?" "OK, wise guy," I'm thinking, "do you take me for an idiot? Show me how smart you are, bonehead." Instead, I say, "Really? How?"
And he shows me. The way the Edge program works is that the monthly cost of the phone on an Edge plan is retail cost divided into 20 months. In the case of the Moto X it's $400 retail or $20 per month. Turns out if you have a 10 gig, or higher, data plan they discount the Edge program by $25 for EACH phone on the Edge plan. So, in her case the $20 plan minus the $25 discount reduced the plan by $5 compared to a 2 year subsidized contract. "So," I thought, "this guy really knew what he was doing."
Other advantages to Edge: The phone can be upgraded after 60% of the retail price is paid off. That's 12 months. If you want to trade it in sooner than 12 months then pay the difference to get up to 60%. This is a trade-in, you don't keep the phone. However, if you do keep the phone for 20 months it's yours to keep, no trade in necessary.
The break even point is phone that retails for $500. At that point the monthly payment is $25 and the discount is $25.
An HTC One and LG G2 are break even on Edge. A Note 3, S5 and LG G3 are only $5 more on Edge. All in all, it turns out, Edge is a pretty good deal if you have the 10 Gig plan.
In the end, my daughter was happy, I'm happy and it was a great experience. So, not all CS reps are idiots.
Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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You can say that again
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You can say that again
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Yeah. Because of how much data I use, they told me they would give me all the deals of a more everything plan plus 20% off my whole bill. Then I said I already have 20% off through a worker who worked there years ago. They said it would add on top of that. So 40% off plus what ever more eveything. But given how much data I use, wouldn't do anything for me.
You lost me at "some aren't"
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
TabGuy said:
For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
kinstre11 said:
This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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Yes I am well aware...see my posts in that thread.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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No you are not under a contract when month to month. There are no binding terms keeping me locked to any set rules or conditions. However, there is the TOS I agreed to back when I first joined. Aside from that I have been a VZW customer for 15yrs and they have never ended or terminated any service I have had with them. They may discontinue a older plan, but they have never forced me off of any plan I was on. I have no reason to believe they would start doing such things. Just because they did away with the loop hole(add a line/transfer device/put dumb phone on added line) to keep unlimited does not mean they are going to start forcing people off thier unlimited plans. Even if they did, I would simply jump on a shared plan...it is what it is.
Boy did I luck out. Just read this about august 24th. I got a note 3 yesterday! Still unlimited.... and my upgrade I'd in November, seems like people better get their phones now! So what if you buy a used phone and swap sims?? Post Aug 24th...
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Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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Exactly... +1
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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the problem with putting any stock in what your account manager says is the simple fact that one could speak to 10 different account managers and get 10 different answers.
Amen to that, verizon employees must not have group trainings as they All seem to have a different answer for you.
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Most people do not realize the 25 dollar credit per edge line per month on the bill.
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