Hello friends,
i want to buy HTC One X+ but it's Heating issues let me down about thinking to buy it... Please if any htc one x+ experienced user please give you review regarding heating while playing games ? while watching movie any issue ? with heating ?
Please help me...i want to buy...so i want to clear all doubts... is it possible using some software limitations we can control hardware heating ?
asking said:
Hello friends,
i want to buy HTC One X+ but it's Heating issues let me down about thinking to buy it... Please if any htc one x+ experienced user please give you review regarding heating while playing games ? while watching movie any issue ? with heating ?
Please help me...i want to buy...so i want to clear all doubts... is it possible using some software limitations we can control hardware heating ?
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The heat issue is real HOWEVER, I watch movies, I play games for hours on, and I keep my screen on for god knows how long, and I can still hold my phone. So It's not "TOO HOT" as you might have heard. One X+ also has a safety protocol that when you put the phone in the charger while its too hot, the notification lights light up green and red, saying that the phone is too hot, but it lets it cool off then it will charge normally.
If you experience the phone being hot while having a cover on, try to remove the cover to let it cool off.
Did my phone shut down because it was too hot? No.
Did I burn my hand? No.
Is it safe? Yes.
asking said:
Hello friends,
i want to buy HTC One X+ but it's Heating issues let me down about thinking to buy it... Please if any htc one x+ experienced user please give you review regarding heating while playing games ? while watching movie any issue ? with heating ?
Please help me...i want to buy...so i want to clear all doubts... is it possible using some software limitations we can control hardware heating ?
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I don't play games on my phone so I can't help you there. Regarding heat while watching video, you may find this six-month-old thread of mine useful, where I pointed out how hot it gets when playing 1080p video. I just ran a bunch of 1080p movie trailers again, now that I updated to 4.2.2 from 4.1.1, and got it to go from 35 degrees C to 57 degrees C after half an hour straight of playing video.
However, considering it's a 720p screen and most of the videos I download are 720p or less, heat is not much of a problem, as 1080p stresses the processor more. As noted in that thread, if you're okay with loading your own ROMs, others say that non-stock ones can do better.
If I were you, I wouldn't get a Tegra smartphone at this point. The Qualcomm Krait 300/400 phones are considered best in class nowadays, which is why there are plenty of phones using the Snapdragon 600 and 800. I don't buy Qualcomm products because I don't like their patent stance, but everybody seems to agree their chips are the best right now, which is why they dominate the market. If it's about price, the Nexus 5 is coming out later this month, should be a good phone at a good price.
Yes joakim_one,
I am going for Sony Xperia SP @ just 300 USD which is a great kick for HTC One X+ with 1.7GHZ SnapDragon s4 Krait processor and Adreno 320 GPU which kicks out in many benchmarks Tegra Quad A9 40nm << Snapdragon Dual Core Krait 28nm A15 Processors Plus S4 Snapdragon is Battery saving 19-20 hours talktime is great fro sony xperia sp
asking said:
Yes joakim_one,
I am going for Sony Xperia SP @ just 300 USD which is a great kick for HTC One X+ with 1.7GHZ SnapDragon s4 Krait processor and Adreno 320 GPU which kicks out in many benchmarks Tegra Quad A9 40nm << Snapdragon Dual Core Krait 28nm A15 Processors Plus S4 Snapdragon is Battery saving 19-20 hours talktime is great fro sony xperia sp
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I didn't know much about that phone, so I looked up its review on Notebookcheck, who do some of the best gadget reviews on the internet. The Snapdragon is comparable to the Tegra 3 in benchmarks, but they say the SP's display is only average, which is a big step down from the HTC One X+ display, perhaps the best display I've ever seen in my life. It's only 4.7" and I prefer something bigger, but inch for inch, it's the best I've ever used. Also, they say that the HTC One X has better battery life than the Xperia SP.
If you want a mid-range phone, the Nexus 4 and upcoming Nexus 5 will be great options. I don't know what other mid-range phones are known to be good, but you might want to look through this list of the best-rated smartphones on Notebookcheck to find something.
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I didn't know much about that phone, so I looked up its review on Notebookcheck, who do some of the best gadget reviews on the internet. The Snapdragon is comparable to the Tegra 3 in benchmarks, but they say the SP's display is only average, which is a big step down from the HTC One X+ display, perhaps the best display I've ever seen in my life. It's only 4.7" and I prefer something bigger, but inch for inch, it's the best I've ever used. Also, they say that the HTC One X has better battery life than the Xperia SP.
If you want a mid-range phone, the Nexus 4 and upcoming Nexus 5 will be great options. I don't know what other mid-range phones are known to be good, but you might want to look through this list of the best-rated smartphones on Notebookcheck to find something.
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Thanks for suggestion... But i don't agree with your term better than HTC One X. HTC One X was having the worst battery and hence Htc ONE X Plus was out. Endurance test shows higher for Xperia SP with 2370 ~ 2400mAH Battery. Actually right now i am using Xperia Series phone and they are good in Battery i used to watch movie daily...on it while on travel to job. HTC One X+ would be great....but i have heard htc phones are most battery suckers...thats why i am going to switch to sony xperia series..
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Thanks for suggestion... But i don't agree with your term better than HTC One X. HTC One X was having the worst battery and hence Htc ONE X Plus was out. Endurance test shows higher for Xperia SP with 2370 ~ 2400mAH Battery. Actually right now i am using Xperia Series phone and they are good in Battery i used to watch movie daily...on it while on travel to job. HTC One X+ would be great....but i have heard htc phones are most battery suckers...thats why i am going to switch to sony xperia series..
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I suggest you look at more than the battery rating, as Notebookcheck finds that both the HTC One X and HTC One X+ had better battery life than the Xperia SP, with the HOX+ doing best. There was one exception: if you really stress the phones and put them under maximum load, then the Xperia SP lasted about half an hour longer than the HTC phones, likely because the Snapdragon S4 chip is more efficient than the Tegra. But if you're just keeping your phone idle or surfing the web, which is what you'll be doing most of the time, the HTC phones will likely last hours longer, according to their benchmarks.
Maybe other Xperia phones are better- I don't know- but the Xperia SP didn't benchmark well for battery life, just letting you know.
joakim_one said:
I suggest you look at more than the battery rating, as Notebookcheck finds that both the HTC One X and HTC One X+ had better battery life than the Xperia SP, with the HOX+ doing best. There was one exception: if you really stress the phones and put them under maximum load, then the Xperia SP lasted about half an hour longer than the HTC phones, likely because the Snapdragon S4 chip is more efficient than the Tegra. But if you're just keeping your phone idle or surfing the web, which is what you'll be doing most of the time, the HTC phones will likely last hours longer, according to their benchmarks.
Maybe other Xperia phones are better- I don't know- but the Xperia SP didn't benchmark well for battery life, just letting you know.
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Yeah it might be i can't oppose REAL facts... but i have found the HEAT Tests to be great for xperia devices its maximum is around gaming and charging while HTC Had Nvidia GPU heating issues..upto 52 Degree Celcius... which is to be consider for long term...run.. Anyways..our discuss could be useful to other members finding the MID range smart phones
asking said:
Yeah it might be i can't oppose REAL facts... but i have found the HEAT Tests to be great for xperia devices its maximum is around gaming and charging while HTC Had Nvidia GPU heating issues..upto 52 Degree Celcius... which is to be consider for long term...run.. Anyways..our discuss could be useful to other members finding the MID range smart phones
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What? lol 52c is nowhere near the thermal threshold. The Tegra 3 could comfortably run in the low 70's... Regardless heat has little impact in damaging hardware because these CPU's run at such low voltages.
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AndroHero said:
What? lol 52c is nowhere near the thermal threshold. The Tegra 3 could comfortably run in the low 70's... Regardless heat has little impact in damaging hardware because these CPU's run at such low voltages.
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AndroHero,
I mean to say outer body of the Phone. Processor original temp would be much higher, but the outer body temp is 52 Degree C means internal must be having high...
AndroHero said:
What? lol 52c is nowhere near the thermal threshold. The Tegra 3 could comfortably run in the low 70's... Regardless heat has little impact in damaging hardware because these CPU's run at such low voltages.
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AndroHero,
I mean to say outer body of the Phone. Processor original temp would be much higher, but the outer body temp is 52 Degree C means internal must be having high...
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Now that MWC showed HTC,LG...next phones for spring/summer 2012, we can say that the Xperia S is the best phone out there...why?
-Screen is not monstruous like the 4.7'' of the One X,and it has 720p resolution while One S is still qHD
-12mp! all other android phones are limited to 8mp.
-Dual core cpu 1.5, yes it's not the quad of One X but again who need 4.7''?
So in clear xperia S beats the One S in screen resolution and camera hands down.
It beats the One X in screen ppi and of course dimensions!
SGS3? well like the One X it will be huge with 4.7 or 4.8'' screen and anyway it won't be out before June!
Though WE NEED DEVS so CM9 and MIUI can make the Xperia S perfect
vegetaleb said:
Now that MWC showed HTC,LG...next phones for spring/summer 2012, we can say that the Xperia S is the best phone out there...why?
-Screen is not monstruous like the 4.7'' of the One X,and it has 720p resolution while One S is still qHD
-12mp! all other android phones are limited to 8mp.
-Dual core cpu 1.5, yes it's not the quad of One X but again who need 4.7''?
-One X has a fixed battery, any freezing and you will feel very bad!
-One X has microSIM slot like iphone 4, so you have to cut it or change it
So in clear xperia S beats the One S in screen resolution and camera hands down.
It beats the One X in screen ppi,microsim,fixed battery and of course dimensions!
SGS3? well like the One X it will be huge with 4.7 or 4.8'' screen and anyway it won't be out before June!
Though WE NEED DEVS so CM9 and MIUI can make the Xperia S perfect
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There are lots of things to love about the Xperia S (I've got one on pre-order) but you should know that the Xperia S also has a fixed battery and a micro SIM.
vegetaleb said:
Now that MWC showed HTC,LG...next phones for spring/summer 2012, we can say that the Xperia S is the best phone out there...why?
-Screen is not monstruous like the 4.7'' of the One X,and it has 720p resolution while One S is still qHD
-12mp! all other android phones are limited to 8mp.
-Dual core cpu 1.5, yes it's not the quad of One X but again who need 4.7''?
-One X has a fixed battery, any freezing and you will feel very bad!
-One X has microSIM slot like iphone 4, so you have to cut it or change it
So in clear xperia S beats the One S in screen resolution and camera hands down.
It beats the One X in screen ppi,microsim,fixed battery and of course dimensions!
SGS3? well like the One X it will be huge with 4.7 or 4.8'' screen and anyway it won't be out before June!
Though WE NEED DEVS so CM9 and MIUI can make the Xperia S perfect
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As yardglass pointed out the Xperia S has a non-removable battery and micro sim. Also the Xperia S does not beat the HTC in screen resolution as they are both 720p also it is lighter and thinner though a bit longer and wider. And no before you say im a HTC fanboy i've got the Xperia on pre-order already, just wanted to clarify some things with you
Sorry for battery and microsim.
I was talking about pixels density, between 720p 4.3'' and 720p 4.7''
The Xperia S beats the iphone4 but the One X is beaten by the iphone4,so in terms of optimal graphics:
Xperia S > Iphone4/s > One X/Galaxy Nexus > Sensation/ One S > SGS2
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Sorry for battery and microsim.
I was talking about pixels density, between 720p 4.3'' and 720p 4.7''
The Xperia S beats the iphone4 but the One X is beaten by the iphone4,so in terms of optimal graphics:
Xperia S > Iphone4/s > One X/Galaxy Nexus > Sensation/ One S > SGS2
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I believe it has the highest pixel density, yes. I really have no need for more than a dual core phone either. I don't even believe that the OS handles more than that at the moment, and I can't think of any app that would need that processor?
Xperia P :?
I'm bout to test it I have a confusion with both of them :O
I changed my order over from a Galaxy Nexus to the Xperia S. Nexus is sitting staring at me on my worktop, but it's going back tomorrow in a pre-paid bag.
The camera, faster processor and looks were enough to snap me up. However I do see that Xperia/Sony android development looks nowhere near as active as HTC/Samsung/ect.
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I changed my order over from a Galaxy Nexus to the Xperia S. Nexus is sitting staring at me on my worktop, but it's going back tomorrow in a pre-paid bag.
The camera, faster processor and looks were enough to snap me up. However I do see that Xperia/Sony android development looks nowhere near as active as HTC/Samsung/ect.
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If it makes you feel any better, there's been a couple devs come out and say they're getting this phone (I believe DoomLord is one of them).
Audioboxer said:
I changed my order over from a Galaxy Nexus to the Xperia S. Nexus is sitting staring at me on my worktop, but it's going back tomorrow in a pre-paid bag.
The camera, faster processor and looks were enough to snap me up. However I do see that Xperia/Sony android development looks nowhere near as active as HTC/Samsung/ect.
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Oh, you're on XDA too
Good choice. I think that with the Xperia S we'll be seeing a very high amount of developers. It's a very powerful device at a relatively low price, it has excellent cameras and an awesome display.
The biggest problem with the Xperia Arc and the rest of the 2011 family is that it wasn't a very powerful handset at release, it lacked RAM, internal memory and a faster processor. And the unlock tool from the Arc came a few months after the release.
The Xperia S however will be unlockable right away, we'll have a great set of resources to base ourselves on, and it has really good specs. And it's generating tons and tons of buzz around the internet.
I really did like the 2011 line of SE Xperias.
But I'm a bit apprehensive about the 2012 series because of the few qualms, as I see:
Non-removable battery
Non-expandable storage
Micro-SIM
Last-generation hardware specifications
The support for the phones being from Sony henceforth (whose track record for having a strict lock down policy on their devices is quite well known).
I'll wait and see what Samsung has up their sleeve with the S2 successor and if that's disaapointing, I'll go for the Xperia S (or Ion, if they do plan for an international release).
Sony Mobile, is not Sony. Sony Mobile still is the same set of people it always was, nothing will change. They're very committed to delivering all updates quite fast, you really shouldn't worry about that.
Micro-SIM: It'll be the standard for 2012.
Non-expandable storage: Isn't 32GB already a huge amount? I've always been fine with 8GB on my phone and 16GB on my standalone Walkman.
Non-removable battery can't be a problem either if there is a hard reset key combo. It's not been a problem for the iPhone or Nokia Lumia 800/N9 either.
I like this phone, but no LTE for AT&T bands and the CPU are a bit of a let down.
The 720P IPS 4.3in screen seems very nice and I would likey trade my oled+ 480p screen for the screen it has.
P.S I hope all buying like there new phone.
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Sony Mobile, is not Sony. Sony Mobile still is the same set of people it always was, nothing will change. They're very committed to delivering all updates quite fast, you really shouldn't worry about that.
Micro-SIM: It'll be the standard for 2012.
Non-expandable storage: Isn't 32GB already a huge amount? I've always been fine with 8GB on my phone and 16GB on my standalone Walkman.
Non-removable battery can't be a problem either if there is a hard reset key combo. It's not been a problem for the iPhone or Nokia Lumia 800/N9 either.
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It's a relief to hear that Sony isn't helming the mobile development division. I was afraid that there might be lock-downs and restrictions enforced (akin to locked bootloaders, hence, inability to flash custom ROMs) seeing as what they do to their PSP and PS3 product ranges. But I suspect Sony might somehow wiggle in their proprietary standards like they always love to (ATRAC3Plus, MemoryStick, PSVita Memory Card, etcetera).
Furthermore, I sure do hope Micro-SIMs become the standard as I do a travel a lot and I'd hate to cut my SIM cards to size.
And about the non-expandable storage, it isn't about the storage space per se, but it is more related to how I can swap an SD card with the data I need rather than copying it to the phone via a PC (thus making PC a requirement). However, if the storage space happens to be full I'd have to delete some data, and picking what to delete might be a tough choice, especially with no PC nearby to make a backup. I think this might become more evident when everyone tries recording videos for extended time in 1080p on their Xperia S which takes up more space.
I believe non-removable batteries are alright in the short run, but in the long run, there might be the necessity for the use of higher capacity batteries or backup travel batteries. Plus, if the battery decided to fizzle out, I couldn't possibly swap out the battery to fit in a new one without handing it in for service, which I believe is the iPhone user's bane.
Cheers, mate.
Only thing that irks me is non-removable battery, but hey, it's a worry not something I actually need. Never had an issue with my iPhone 3 battery, never replaced my HTC Desire battery (only ever pulled it for rebooting).
The ability to fast charge the battery to 80% in 30 mins may or may not have something to do with this, unlikely, but even if not it's a nice feature.
only thing that irks me is the usb/hdmi on opposite sides with those crappy plastic covers. if only the S was a bit more like the P we would have powered docks and car mounts... that was my biggest let down... seeing the P design makes me wish they thought the S through a bit more.
I am quietly waiting for reviews!!
Screen quality (viewing angles,colors,sunlight...), speaker volume, quality feeling...
Large battery - check
720p screen - check
Stylish and elegant design - check
made by Sony - check
Yep this is the best Android phone for Spring 2012 imo.
The best review / comparisons I've found are on PhoneArena. I'm being offered the Experia S as an upgrade for my existing contract, but unsure whether to wait for the One X or the Galaxy S3.
But again, as they're all essentially governed by the chipset/software, so does it boil down to which one you like the look of and what goodies they have on board?
Never easy, is it?
Non-removable battery
Non-removable battery is very bad. If the phone stucks, how to shut down?
Should we wait a long time till to battery reach 0%?
StellMonkey said:
Non-removable battery is very bad. If the phone stucks, how to shut down?
Should we wait a long time till to battery reach 0%?
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10-second press (or a combo, not sure anymore) will force-reboot the phone, it's hardcoded.
can the one x+ play games like asphalt 8 at high visualy quality with no lag? or are most high end games by gameloft ea rockstar gta games laggy unoptimized for tegra 3 still, would anyone advise me to get this phone for gaming? NOT INCLUDING tegra 3 designed games. the ones by gameloft are better IMO
ian619420 said:
can the one x+ play games like asphalt 8 at high visualy quality with no lag? or are most high end games by gameloft ea rockstar gta games laggy unoptimized for tegra 3 still, would anyone advise me to get this phone for gaming? NOT INCLUDING tegra 3 designed games. the ones by gameloft are better IMO
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This phone is the Worst Choice for Gaming on stock rom
even dual core phones can run asphalt 8 better than hox+.because it's not optimized for tegra3 (many games)
and the phone battery temperature gets very high...sth about 50-55°C or higher
I advise you >> Buy another Phone
CyanideIII said:
This phone is the Worst Choice for Gaming on stock rom
even dual core phones can run asphalt 8 better than hox+.because it's not optimized for tegra3 (many games)
and the phone battery temperature gets very high...sth about 50-55°C or higher
I advise you >> Buy another Phone
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2nd this. I am quite satisfied with the gaming performance but i could not tolerate the heat from the Tegra 3. If only mine is not a gift, i would sell it to get something better. HTC is not too friendly with development for this device as well. I wonder why they are spoiling the One series but neglecting the One X+ as it is one of their top devices
If all your intrested in is gaming... I'd buy a cheap phone and spend the rest on a shield!
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High end gaming and mobile gaming do not go in the same sentence. People don't understand specs don't mean SH*T if there is no cooling method or ventilation put into these devices. It could have all the 2.6ghz quad core snapdragon 1000 processor with 4gb of ram and 1tb of memory. Without anyway of cooling or ventilation you will yield 10-15min of "high end gaming" until the device feels too hot to handle so you will stop or the device stops itself from becoming too hot.
Phone specs look great on paper. What lacks is high end software for the high end specs and no cooling or ventilation. What's the use of a 800hp muscle car if there is zero ventilation to the engine???
Get a gameboy bro
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High end gaming and mobile gaming do not go in the same sentence. People don't understand specs don't mean SH*T if there is no cooling method or ventilation put into these devices. It could have all the 2.6ghz quad core snapdragon 1000 processor with 4gb of ram and 1tb of memory. Without anyway of cooling or ventilation you will yield 10-15min of "high end gaming" until the device feels too hot to handle so you will stop or the device stops itself from becoming too hot.
Phone specs look great on paper. What lacks is high end software for the high end specs and no cooling or ventilation. What's the use of a 800hp muscle car if there is zero ventilation to the engine???
Get a gameboy bro
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Hmm, I don't know. Cause I can play Real Racing 3 for about an hour before battery is 0%. It doesn't over heat anymore. I gave it for repairs and told HTC overheating is the biggest issue now they solved it. Also told them battery has an issue, finishes too fast, they fixed it now I can high end gaming for an hour, previously 40 minutes
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Hello,
My question is pretty much what the title asks. I just got rid of my tablet, prematurely (don't ask lol), and it is a great tablet. I want another one, but I am wondering if I should wait until the Z4 drops. I mean, I really only watch movies and Netflix, with the occasional PS4 Remote Play and PC gaming with Limelight. I can get a brand new 32GB white model Z2 Tablet for $400. Do you think that the Z4 is going to be much more powerful and feature rich than the Z2?
What do you all think?
Thanks!
My guess is that it will have the same performance as Z2. From what I have seen and read about 810 it is not much of a performer, so an increased resolution should put it on par with 801 in Z2.
I've owned Z3 Tablet Compact, which is a bit faster than Z2, for a while and it was OK but I expected it to be so much more. Though it was quite faster in games and had a snappier UI than iPad Air.
But it still may be worth waiting for the release of Z4, since the price of Z2 should drop considerably.
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My guess is that it will have the same performance as Z2. From what I have seen and read about 810 it is not much of a performer, so an increased resolution should put it on par with 801 in Z2.
I've owned Z3 Tablet Compact, which is a bit faster than Z2, for a while and it was OK but I expected it to be so much more. Though it was quite faster in games and had a snappier UI than iPad Air.
But it still may be worth waiting for the release of Z4, since the price of Z2 should drop considerably.
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Utter nonsense.
Snapdragon 810 is significantly more powerful than 801 both in terms of CPU and graphics performance, and it's the GPU that will deal with the extra resolution anyway, leaving the processor free to bring its performance benefits elsewhere. Plus there's a whole lot more to this than performance anyway -- the Z4 Tablet is way ahead of the Z2 Tablet in terms of battery life, screen brightness, size (it's almost 12% smaller), weight (11% lighter), built-in storage (32GB vs 16GB), has no cover over the USB port, has a better front camera, has better audio, etc. etc.
Basically the only ways that the Z2 Tablet is better than its successor are the inclusion of the magnetic charging port, and a lower pricetag. European-market pricing for the Z4 Tablet without the keyboard dock is around US$600, so you'll save about 30% on the older, lesser model.
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Utter nonsense.
Snapdragon 810 is significantly more powerful than 801 both in terms of CPU and graphics performance, and it's the GPU that will deal with the extra resolution anyway, leaving the processor free to bring its performance benefits elsewhere. Plus there's a whole lot more to this than performance anyway -- the Z4 Tablet is way ahead of the Z2 Tablet in terms of battery life, screen brightness, size (it's almost 12% smaller), weight (11% lighter), built-in storage (32GB vs 16GB), has no cover over the USB port, has a better front camera, has better audio, etc. etc.
Basically the only ways that the Z2 Tablet is better than its successor are the inclusion of the magnetic charging port, and a lower pricetag. European-market pricing for the Z4 Tablet without the keyboard dock is around US$600, so you'll save about 30% on the older, lesser model.
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Ok 810 is good performer. What i was saying is that Z4 UI will perform the same as Z2.
There is 77% more pixels on Z4. How much more powerful is 810? Even if it was 100% more powerful how would that translate in usage. That is roughly 10% better performance. On the videos i've seen z4 drops frames and stutters occasionally, same as Z2 and Z3 TC both of which I've used.
Battery has the same capacity. Sony has absolutely top power saving features but will it manage to draw that much more out of it? I expect battery life to be the same.
Using percentages to describe size reduction is soo apple. Point is, the new tablet will be
12 mm shorter, 5mm narrower and 0.3mm thinner.
All those things are great but for the use he mentioned it is not worth the price difference.
solmiler said:
Ok 810 is good performer. What i was saying is that Z4 UI will perform the same as Z2.
There is 77% more pixels on Z4. How much more powerful is 810? Even if it was 100% more powerful how would that translate in usage. That is roughly 10% better performance. On the videos i've seen z4 drops frames and stutters occasionally, same as Z2 and Z3 TC both of which I've used.
Battery has the same capacity. Sony has absolutely top power saving features but will it manage to draw that much more out of it? I expect battery life to be the same.
Using percentages to describe size reduction is soo apple. Point is, the new tablet will be
12 mm shorter, 5mm narrower and 0.3mm thinner.
All those things are great but for the use he mentioned it is not worth the price difference.
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Congratulations on ignoring the bulk of my post.
Trying to use pixel count to estimate the relative performance difference between the two tablets seems silly to me, especially when you're only focusing on CPU.
Like knoxploration said, the GPU is what matters. The Adreno 430 in the Z4 can easily best the Adreno 330 in the Z2.
Still, I think we're splitting hairs. Both tablets seem great. It just comes down to personal preference. Go with the Z4 if you want the latest and greatest, or stick with the still very capable Z2 if you want to save some money.
Personally, I think the Z4 will finally convince me to get a tablet.
Edit: If you want a formal comparison between the Z2 and Z4, here's an article from PC Advisor:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/...2-tablet-vs-sony-xperia-z4-tablet-comparison/
Edit 2: And if you want benchmarks between the Adreno 330 and Adreno 430, here's another link:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/adreno-430-benchmarked-trounces-adreno-330/
Sounds like price is your most sensitive issue. Otherwise it wouldn't be a concern... I have a z2 and z3 compact, never had any performance issues, and I fully intend to get the z4 asap.
rm40f2 said:
Trying to use pixel count to estimate the relative performance difference between the two tablets seems silly to me, especially when you're only focusing on CPU.
Like knoxploration said, the GPU is what matters. The Adreno 430 in the Z4 can easily best the Adreno 330 in the Z2.
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Actually I wasn't focusing on CPU I thought that Adreno GPU was a part of Snapdragon processor. I think it is but if I've made a mistake, I apologize. I have looked at HTC M8 vs M9 for comparison since they both have the same resolution displays and have sd 801 vs 810 (or Adreno 330 vs 430). I looked at GFXBench results to draw my conclusion so it was actually the gpu performance that I have been referring.
You're right, solmiler! Excuse me while I remove my foot from my mouth.
I owned Z2. It's super smooth especially for an android tablet, which you usually wouldn't install to much software on it.
Considering the poor performance of 810 when temperature goes high and the higher resolution it has, I would recommend you to go for a Z2 if you get a very good deal on it.
I bet Z2 and Z4 will have almost the same performance.. and Z2 would be way cheaper and easy to get.
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testudoaubreii said:
Hello,
My question is pretty much what the title asks. I just got rid of my tablet, prematurely (don't ask lol), and it is a great tablet. I want another one, but I am wondering if I should wait until the Z4 drops. I mean, I really only watch movies and Netflix, with the occasional PS4 Remote Play and PC gaming with Limelight. I can get a brand new 32GB white model Z2 Tablet for $400. Do you think that the Z4 is going to be much more powerful and feature rich than the Z2?
What do you all think?
Thanks!
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If you are heavy user so w8 for Z4 Table
cause with 64Bit you ll get better performance (more ability for heavy usage)
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Interesting article about the Snapdragon 810 heat problems:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/
I'm considering move from Xiaomi kenzo to Xperia Z5 Compact, From gaming & performance perspective. Is it a downgrade?
810 heats a lot
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Also waterproofing tends to make the phone running hotter than normal, so keep an eye on that. But performance wise, I think it is an updrade. You won't see a dramatic difference cause the 650 is lag free on its own.
S650 doesn't heat at all, when S810 is a heater (useful on winter ) + for S650
S650 has 28nm manufacturing processes, S810 has 20nm + for S810
S650 is little bit faster then S810 (4xA57 vs 2xA72) + for S650
So.. Nope for Z5 Compact?
Read reviews if both devices, consider what's important to you, like battery life, camera performance, size, weight, etc.
From a SOC perspective only, SD810 is a downgrade from SD650 in my opinion.
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I got both socs mentioned courtesy of lg flex 2 and of course rn3pro. I think there pretty much the same with the 810 having better gpu performance.
As far as heat, they both get warm running antutu or high demanding games, they both run cool when browsing, facebook etc
personally I'd go with a sd820/821 if you want more performance
glock24 said:
Read reviews if both devices, consider what's important to you, like battery life, camera performance, size, weight, etc.
From a SOC perspective only, SD810 is a downgrade from SD650 in my opinion.
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I'm searching for gaming performance.
You will hate the battery, I went from a Z5C to a 3S now on a Note 3 Kate. I would not go back.
Go for the zuk z2 plus sd 820 on a budget or get the mi 5s it has sd821 and it should be the best for gaming and heavy tasks. Seriously i do bot recommend u to go for sd 810 i used it on my nexus 6p and it heated up quite a bit go for the above devices they should be the best.
Hi,
I am thinking buying this phone. The most important thing for me is to have a snappy phone for regular apps(spotify, whatsapp, mail, browsing) , and at least one day of battery on lte (I don't use more than 3.5h sot).
From what i saw on this forum xperia x might be a good choice for me. Would you recommend something else? or can xperia x fulfill my needs?
Thanks.
I was evaluating between X and XP when they both come out. I noticed Sony removed "2 days battery life" from XP's marketing materials. So its X for me. I need battery life more than gaming performance though.
ykphuah said:
I was evaluating between X and XP when they both come out. I noticed Sony removed "2 days battery life" from XP's marketing materials. So its X for me. I need battery life more than gaming performance though.
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and what's your opinion? are you pleased with your decision? do your day by day routine is similar to mine? how is your battery life ?
iulian. said:
Hi,
I am thinking buying this phone. The most important thing for me is to have a snappy phone for regular apps(spotify, whatsapp, mail, browsing) , and at least one day of battery on lte (I don't use more than 3.5h sot).
From what i saw on this forum xperia x might be a good choice for me. Would you recommend something else? or can xperia x fulfill my needs?
Thanks.
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Go for it.
S650 is more than enough for you, even when gaming counts. The Z5 heats up and throttles itself pretty fast even on normal usage. MM roms on Xperia phones are hell fast already.
Though, isn't it too OP to buy a S8xx phone for daily apps?
EDIT: There is no phone on the X line that could last up to 2 days. My X normally last for 5 hours onscreen, with gaming web browsing are my top priorities.
Z3c still is the one with the strongest juice pack.
iH8Ecchi said:
Go for it.
S650 is more than enough for you, even when gaming counts. The Z5 heats up and throttles itself pretty fast even on normal usage. MM roms on Xperia phones are hell fast already.
Though, isn't it too OP to buy a S8xx phone for daily apps?
EDIT: There is no phone on the X line that could last up to 2 days. My X normally last for 5 hours onscreen, with gaming web browsing are my top priorities.
Z3c still is the one with the strongest juice pack.
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ok thanks. I might wait a bit to see how does nougat affect xperia x. (as any update brings some slow effect to the day by day experience)
iulian. said:
ok thanks. I might wait a bit to see how does nougat affect xperia x. (as any update brings some slow effect to the day by day experience)
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Well, there is hardly any reason to nerf the X in the next update. M4 and Z4 was nerfed due to the heating issues, which the X doesn't have.
Also, you can go back to MM at anytime.
Having this same dilemma currently. Had my eye on the Xperia line since the Z1C and my GS3 is finally failing enough that i'm going to pull the trigger on something new and looking to step away form the galaxy line. Not a big gamer beyond mindless time killers (angry birds and the like) so mostly just need snappy performance for browsing and youtube and good battery life. I feel like the X hits that sweet spot between giving up a bit of screen size with the compact and going up to the bigger Z5 which i'm not really sure i want to do either. Can get a Z5C and XX for the same price right now, and only about $50 more for the Z5. Seems like all the reviews are mainly knocking the XX based on the steep list price and saying "just get a Z5 instead" but now that the price has come down so much i'm not sure that really applies anymore. For practical everyday use i feel like the X is going to be right on par, and any of them are going to smoke this dinosaur of a phone i'm on now.
well coming to my initial thoughts z5 is better than x? because for me are the same price
and how much battery life can I get using waze? (for a 5h road trip, would i need a car charger?)
iulian. said:
well coming to my initial thoughts z5 is better than x? because for me are the same price
and how much battery life can I get using waze? (for a 5h road trip, would i need a car charger?)
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I use another navigation app, but i guess the X will survive with around 5% with Stamina on all the way, while the Z5 will die halfway.
Though you should have a portable charger in your car every time. It doesn't take too much space anyway.
yeah. ok thanks.
I still have some doubts of the battery life of xx, but I suppose this is mainly because the market is flooded by 3000mah batteries.
I like that X have earpiece in better position, as having the earpiece, like Z5 have, at the phone edge, is quite annoying, during a call, the phone doesn't cover my ear hole, but instead I must hold phone in some strange and uncomfortable position and others can hear the conversation.
X -s earpiece sound is also better, as Z5 have smaller earpiece and as it's waterproof, so it's behind protection tape, which changes the sound.
ksuuk said:
I like that X have earpiece in better position, as having the earpiece, like Z5 have, at the phone edge, is quite annoying, during a call, the phone doesn't cover my ear hole, but instead I must hold phone in some strange and uncomfortable position and others can hear the conversation.
X -s earpiece sound is also better, as Z5 have smaller earpiece and as it's waterproof, so it's behind protection tape, which changes the sound.
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but how is battery life on both devices? (i understand that xx has enough battery juice for at least one day on 4g)
iulian. said:
but how is battery life on both devices? (i understand that xx has enough battery juice for at least one day on 4g)
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Logic say's that more performance (bigger screen, more CPU cores etc) consumes more power. So it depends of phone usage. It You are continuously on 4G, then depends how good is the signal. If signal is bad, phone needs to amplify the signal and this again eats more battery.
Quote from - http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-X-vs-Sony-Xperia-Z5_id4206/page/4
"In terms of total capacity, the 2,900mAh cell of the Xperia Z5 has the lead over the 2,620mAh unit of the Xperia X. But as you should know by now, numbers are just numbers.
Indeed, we found the numbers to be unrepresentative of our experience, with the Xperia Z5 offering worse battery performance with perhaps a 10% drop in longevity compared to the X. Not a massive advantage for the newer device, sure, but still something to keep in mind. Obviously, this ratio can vary wildly depending on what your typical usage looks like.
When it comes to charging times, the Xperia X, with its smaller juicer getting filled up some 15 minutes quicker than the larger unit of the Z5."
hi, again. how about an older sony (like z3, z3+ - saw that z3+ has s810 chip, and i am concerned about overheat) but how about z3? saw good reviews even after some years.
I bought the Xperia X a month ago and I am really happy with the device. I would estimate around 2 days battery life with normal usage. I think the phone is a perfect all-rounder with clean UI, good/fast camera, fantastic front camera (13mp), vibrant full-HD 5" screen, beautiful design/finish with metal back and 21/2 D glass. PS4 remote play (if you own PS4) is great too. Finger print scanner is also very consistent and extremely fast (<1 sec to start and unlock phone). My previous phone was Xperia Z3C which was also very good, but overall I would rank the Xperia X higher mainly due to the screen, cameras, finger print scanner and metal finish.