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I just got off the phone with tech support and it isn't on their system...of course, it is tech support and usually, they are some of the last people to know. But, considering how hard it is to upgrade to the leaked version, do you think HTC can take on the challenge and make the update fairly pain free?
Given the fact that we were told "Honeycomb would be released soon after launch" ... I'm not holding my breath and it really is unfortunate.
Can't even get ahold of the stock RUU for the US WiFi Flyer due to HTC's lack of updates.
My gut feeling, is they wouldn't have put all the effort into making a working HC ROM, if they weren't going to release it. Remember, the leak was beta. Presumably, it will take some time to go from beta to the release/final version. Maybe we'll see a leak for that. Even then, there is some lag time between when the final version is finished, and it actually starts getting pushed out.
From the HC install guide thread on Modaco:
If you're wondering 'why so many steps and why don't we just run the ruu'? There are 2 main reasons - firstly is the fact that you need s-off, which is generally the revolutionary bootloader, which protects itself from being overwritten - a problem as the new bootloader is necessary for HC. The second reason is that flashing RUU or rom.zip updates your misc partition version tag, which can seriously limit your options should something go wrong and / or you need to roll back to Gingerbread.
For the official HC update, it would seem that neither of these issues apply, so the official update process would probably be much easier.
Very unfortunate because the beta HC from HTC is very close but has enough bugs to keep me from using it. No US RUU means you cannot try out the beta and get back to stock and since Google refused to release HC source, not much chance a 3rd party custom ROM will fix problems like camera issues and other things on HC.
My suggestion for everyone to this repeating question, whether they take it is up to the individual, keep bugging @htc and @HTCUSA on twitter (if you have a twitter account)... Or find their facebook page and ask there. Those are usually worked by PR or CS instead of tech support.
Demand usually gets a result.
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Here is what I asked them...
"Being the owner of several HTC Phones and enjoying their build quality, I recently purchased a HTC Flyer, thinking it would (as promised) get updated to Honeycomb.
Now, some web sites are reporting the flyer will not be updated.
I am now approaching my 30 day return window, so my question is, do I need to return my Flyer and buy something like the Samsung?
I really like HTC products but, I do want a device that (as promised) will get updated."
This was their reply ...
"Gary, We very much appreciate your loyalty to HTC and understand how it can be frustrating awaiting announced updates, especially when they take longer than anticipated to come out. We ask for your patience as the update is being developed and tested for your device. Thank you again!"
Guess we'll see
Edit ... I just sent this ...
"Thank you for your quick reply. As you know the official announcement was on Feb 11, 8 months ago saying the update to Honeycomb would be coming soon. The Flyer is approuching 1 year old and still no update. It seems like I may have to return my flyer and try another product. Thanks, Gary"
I am on the edge too about returning my Flyer. Friday is the last day I have to return it back to Best Buy.
I was generally more impressed with how HTC handled updates than Samsung, but seeing how this device has not recieved HC yet, I'm very much doubting that it will ever receive ICS. I am so much more interested in ICS than HC anyways. So I am thinking that I should return the Flyer and buy a newer tablet, Say the soon to be relased Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus which would have a much better chance of seeing an ICS update.
I really love the Flyer, but I am looking towards keeping a tablet for the long term...
The Toshiba Thrive 7 looks promising, but I fear a lack of dev support. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus then???
I'm leery of Samsung since they are being battered by Apple to the point of delaying their Google / Samsung joint next big thing that was scheduled for Oct.11. I don't expect you'll see ICS on a tablet for a long time since Google hasn't even released the Application layer yet and that's the easy part. After that the HW vendors have to do the kernels and drivers and that's what taking so long with HC right now.
mikejwatkins said:
I am on the edge too about returning my Flyer. Friday is the last day I have to return it back to Best Buy.
I was generally more impressed with how HTC handled updates than Samsung, but seeing how this device has not recieved HC yet, I'm very much doubting that it will ever receive ICS. I am so much more interested in ICS than HC anyways. So I am thinking that I should return the Flyer and buy a newer tablet, Say the soon to be relased Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus which would have a much better chance of seeing an ICS update.
I really love the Flyer, but I am looking towards keeping a tablet for the long term...
The Toshiba Thrive 7 looks promising, but I fear a lack of dev support. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus then???
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Talk to current galaxy tab 7 wifi users about Samsung and their updates. That tablet is a year old and hasn't received gingerbread yet. You'll always be playing that game. Buy a tablet for what it has now, not what It's going to have. Be grateful that we have a stable ROM that works well. Dell Streak owners were pushing for 3.2, now half of them are reporting bugs and others are reverting to froyo. I rather them take the time to get it right. A beta build means they're working on it.
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mikejwatkins said:
I am on the edge too about returning my Flyer. Friday is the last day I have to return it back to Best Buy.
I was generally more impressed with how HTC handled updates than Samsung, but seeing how this device has not recieved HC yet, I'm very much doubting that it will ever receive ICS. I am so much more interested in ICS than HC anyways. So I am thinking that I should return the Flyer and buy a newer tablet, Say the soon to be relased Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus which would have a much better chance of seeing an ICS update.
I really love the Flyer, but I am looking towards keeping a tablet for the long term...
The Toshiba Thrive 7 looks promising, but I fear a lack of dev support. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus then???
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I too like the Flyer but, I think I’ll go with the Lenovo ThinkPad … already has HoneyComb and a much better Notes app.
HDMI and full size usb ports
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...3A2177ABA63564CDF6AE8CD837B3&tabname=Features
Yeah.... no, I tried to like the big 10 inch. I had a Asus Transformer which worked great, but no, just couldn't really love lugging a huge slate. I have a laptop which is much more capable for lugging. SO I am really digging the Flyer
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I too like the Flyer but, I think I’ll go with the Lenovo ThinkPad … already has HoneyComb and a much better Notes app.
HDMI and full size usb ports
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...3A2177ABA63564CDF6AE8CD837B3&tabname=Features
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But have you actually use it? I haven't tried the flyer..but the Thinkpad tablet I have an eval unit right now in front of me and it's horrible!...main issue I have with it is that it's really sluggish...and big!...also, palm rejection probably works like 70% of the time..so as I take some notes..I get specks of dots/lines around where my palm is...
I'm not impressed by the stylus pen so far. Maybe it is much better like they say in HC, but I haven't used it yet, so that was a waste of money.
The Flyer itself is awesome. Good hardware, quality build, great HTC Sense overlay on top of GB. I do like it.
I was unaware that Samsung hadn't released an update for the wifi tab after so long. That is discouraging. But I would really like a device that will see ICS.
If the flyer was dual core and or had a slightly higher resolution screen, I'd definately keep it. But right now I'm still debating.
All HTC needs to do is update their gingerbread built to support pen in any applications users wants it to work..and I think most user would be happy..
That seems to be the issue I've been hearing about the Flyer GB build? Is that right?
DigitalMD said:
Yeah.... no, I tried to like the big 10 inch. I had a Asus Transformer which worked great, but no, just couldn't really love lugging a huge slate. I have a laptop which is much more capable for lugging. SO I am really digging the Flyer
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Same here. If I can't put it in my back pocket I don't want it.
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aarick said:
All HTC needs to do is update their gingerbread built to support pen in any applications users wants it to work..and I think most user would be happy..
That seems to be the issue I've been hearing about the Flyer GB build? Is that right?
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I only really have two complaints about the GB Flyer vs. HC. other than the pen.
1. The Sense widgets are huge on GB and the screen grid layout is sized for a phone, not a table. HC looks so much better.
2. The browser in HC seamlessly syncs bookmarks with desktop Chrome and other settings automatically are backed up in a much better fashion than GB.
aarick said:
All HTC needs to do is update their gingerbread built to support pen in any applications users wants it to work..and I think most user would be happy..
That seems to be the issue I've been hearing about the Flyer GB build? Is that right?
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EXACTLY
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I really doubt that HTC will update Flyer. I sent email to them asking about that. Their answer is not satisfying me. They say that I should wait, if there is update I will get a notification. That is really a bad answer !!!
The reason I bought Flyer is for Magic stylus. But, I am really dissapointed. There is no handwriting recognition. I may not need update, but surely I need apps that can maximize the use of stylus....
Cheers...
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But have you actually use it? I haven't tried the flyer..but the Thinkpad tablet I have an eval unit right now in front of me and it's horrible!...main issue I have with it is that it's really sluggish...and big!...also, palm rejection probably works like 70% of the time..so as I take some notes..I get specks of dots/lines around where my palm is...
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That happens sometimes with the Flyer too. They're both based on the same technology, but Lenovo's has handwriting recognition.
I do love the 7 inch form factor but, man, the Lenovo tablets are looking really attractive right now, especially with both a stylus and a keyboard.
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I'm not impressed by the stylus pen so far. Maybe it is much better like they say in HC, but I haven't used it yet, so that was a waste of money.
The Flyer itself is awesome. Good hardware, quality build, great HTC Sense overlay on top of GB. I do like it.
I was unaware that Samsung hadn't released an update for the wifi tab after so long. That is discouraging. But I would really like a device that will see ICS.
If the flyer was dual core and or had a slightly higher resolution screen, I'd definately keep it. But right now I'm still debating.
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Sorry for the little bit off-topic.
Samsung did upgrade my ex-galaxy tab 7 with GB 3 months ago. After the upgrade, things were smoothly but the chip is still 1G.. playing HD games were still slow. Anyways, I already sold it and bought the 10.1 and it was much faster... and nicer but too big for me.. and I sold it too after I saw a price drop for the flyer.
I am thinking to get the flyer since I really enjoy smaller tablet. 10.1 was nice but too big for me and my kids. I am thinking
1) flyer
2) galaxy tab 7+ (good size dual-core, HC ready and possible ICS in the future)
3) galaxy tab 8.9 (my prefer - I have tried it @best buy, really love the size HC + touchwiz was cool)
may I ask someone who have the flyer
1) do you see/feel any slowness playing games? since it is single-core. my ex-tab 7 was slow sometime.. but my 10.1 was so smooth.
2) how is the pen? my sons like to draw, is it worth to pay 80 bucks to get the pen?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
or where have you gone?
I just got mine yesterday. Its awesome.
Got mine.. love it but it feels like a freaking tablet compared to the Eris
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My 4 reason for getting a Rezound over the Nexus.
1. Better screen
2. Better camera
3. Build Quality (Nexus feels like a toy compared to the Rezound to me)
4. I actually like Sense.
I got my SGN on the 15th. It is soooo much better than the Eris. Of course it is also 2 years newer.
I really love ICS, it is quite a step up from Gingerbread. After using it the manufacturers are going to have to step up their game to compete. I see no reason to use an after market launcher with ICS.
Droid 3. I had a Bionic first, but had many problems with data with it. It's a common problem with all of the LTE phones at the moment, so I decided to get the best 3G phone that I could get (plus I wanted a world phone), so it was between the D3, the DInc2, and the iPhone 4S.
Love my new Galaxy Nexus!
Too many superlatives to list...now I've got an HTC, two Motorolas, and a Samsung device .
What will I get next year, LOL?
Cheers!
I moved to a fascinate bit had problems now I have a incredible 2 .my wife just became an i-tard so I am playing around with her x2.
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Got my Galaxy Nexus on launch day, Dec 15th, 3 days before my birthday.
Love, love, love it. Couldn't be happier. Little quirks here and there that could use fixing and a few things I miss from custom ROMs/launchers, but overall absolutely the best phone I have ever had.
Still keeping my Eris around as a music player/alarm clock though. Can't part with it!
Thinking about getting it, but I'm on the fence based on the various reviews.
By the time my thinking is done the next great phone will be announced and then what?
I went with the Galaxy Nexus. Huge step up for me from the Eris. I like how some of the above posters felt the need to justify their purchase over the Galaxy. Thats fine. Fact is they are all pretty great phones when your stepping up from something like an Eris. I loved my Eris but that hardware was seriously tired.
ICS was the main reason why I splurged. I hated to spend the money but ...Ice Cream Sandwich. Thats all I got to say about that.
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Thinking about getting it, but I'm on the fence based on the various reviews.
By the time my thinking is done the next great phone will be announced and then what?
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Then you pick up the Gnex for cheap and be happy with nice specd phone. Now a days its too hard keeping up with phones.
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Exactly. Trying to keep up with these new phones is like trying to keep up with video games or computers. As soon as you buy the top model, within a month there's a new hotness. I figure by the time my upgrade is available at the end of March there will be another 5-6 new Verizon phones, and so maybe the Nexus, Razr or Rezound upgrade prices will have dropped more by then.
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Exactly. Trying to keep up with these new phones is like trying to keep up with video games or computers. As soon as you buy the top model, within a month there's a new hotness. I figure by the time my upgrade is available at the end of March there will be another 5-6 new Verizon phones, and so maybe the Nexus, Razr or Rezound upgrade prices will have dropped more by then.
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Right. That said, though, there will not be another Nexus device until the next version of Android (whatever "J" will be.) Here's hoping that Verizon continues to sell them in the future.
I upgraded to Rezound, love this phone!
i dropped my flyer and now i have a couple of verticle lines going straight down the screen. im still waiting to see how much it'll cost to repair, but if its too much, i will probably just buy a new tablet
i thought the flyer was great, especially with the stylus, but seeing how it is losing support, i was wondering if there was any other 7 inch tablets out there that had the same quality stylus support as the flyer?
Yea the EVO view tab
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Yea the EVO view tab
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Something that is gonna be supported in the next year with at least ICS
One problem we all have;
when devs update the SW by 0.0.1 we all need to get one. Hmmm really?
Fu*k all the upgrades as long as device is doing what u need for ya. I love Flyer and wont cry ower ICS, wich is already old and off date by JB. Blah. Updating new devices to be able to load up lates OS doesent look smart anymore specially with costs of devices... and obviuslly mine payment at work.
Looks like all this upgrades r onlly to push u to buy new devices. 500€ for phone this days... I mean common. Flyer was what 600€ or even more when came out...
Blah...
I love HC Leedroid rome 4.3 with Holo luncher now.
So on the end, buy ICS compatible device today and stay out of JB suport tomorow. Run to the store for new one. No recesion in the world i would say
Samsung is having great success with stylus integration based on the Galaxy Note, which is getting ICS updates. They are about to release a series of tablets with stylus, I would look at those.
I got a Note recently to replace my iphone. I hardly ever use my flyer now. The Note obviously has a smaller screen, but does have a higher resolution.
So, my flyer is now for sale
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jprednik said:
One problem we all have;
when devs update the SW by 0.0.1 we all need to get one. Hmmm really?
Fu*k all the upgrades as long as device is doing what u need for ya. I love Flyer and wont cry ower ICS, wich is already old and off date by JB. Blah. Updating new devices to be able to load up lates OS doesent look smart anymore specially with costs of devices... and obviuslly mine payment at work.
Looks like all this upgrades r onlly to push u to buy new devices. 500€ for phone this days... I mean common. Flyer was what 600€ or even more when came out...
Blah...
I love HC Leedroid rome 4.3 with Holo luncher now.
So on the end, buy ICS compatible device today and stay out of JB suport tomorow. Run to the store for new one. No recesion in the world i would say
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haha i WISH my flyer could last me the next five years, but if i have a choice with a device that is no longer going to be supported or upgraded and a newer device, i have to go with the newer one
i know the galaxy note is great, but i want something that is wifi only
by surfing online, it really seems that the flyer was a one of a kind tablet with its stylus.... its so sad that it didnt sell well and htc is giving it a cold shoulder
The next set of Samsung tablets will have pens so don;t cry about Flyer.
HTC's poor sales record has been noticed by Microsoft. MS does not want HTC to build its first Windows 8 tablets.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Weak-sales-keep-HTC-from-launching-first-Windows-8-tablet_id31074
And why can it not? Siriuslly your wife is longa age and stil lasts you LOL.
I gotta say it how it is. Your wasting time and energy trying to change their minds about the subject. HTC is clueless and most likely will be bought out before the end of the year. Don't fret though you have options. For one, we got some great developers here working to make honeycomb better and bring us ICS and Jelly Bean. But if you can't stand your flyer anymore and don't wanna hold out for our developers, then welcome to the era of cheap tablets! The Flyer is still worth some bucks on ebay, if you got a 32gig model with a pen you can get over 200 for it easy. And with that you could grab a Nexus 7 or Gtab2.
I know where you guys are coming from and trust me I was there too. I was looking for an affordable tablet with decent specs and passed over several other nice tablets because this was an HTC and I expected more from it. I didn't expect an ics update but I thought I'd like honeycomb more, and when I saw this tablet for $200 and honeycomb I was all about it.
We've already tried everything from spamming their Facebook page to online petitions. HTC is cleaning their slate and trying to start over with the one series. Will it work? Probably not because they are pissing off alot of customers on the process and it's too little too late for HTC. Sense 4 is a step in the right direction but it's still a far departure from stock ics and still too intrusive, and since the galaxy s3 launch you've heard very little about the one series.
Just remember you can always cut your losses and buy another tablet. That's what finally calmed me down, realizing that.
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Or you can enjoy the Flyer for what it is. I'm perfectly happy with my Flyer and can see myself holding on to it for another year or so. It does what I wanted then I bought it. A year from now I'll probably start looking for something a bit faster. Let's face it: no Android update is going to put a Tegra 3 into this device. But for now, my Flyer is just great, than you very much.
Its my eBook reader. And being an HTC fanboy for so long (7 years?), I'm going to steer away from them. Google branded nexus devices are best imo, in terms of updates and such. I've bought too many devices from HTC in the past 3-4 years that have been abandoned by them just soon after release.
I like my Flyer the way it is. And it does what it's supposed to. But it doesn't change the fact that, should it be updated to ICS, it will move faster that on HC, be compatible with more apps, and all in all, be better.
To me, it's a pity it's not updated. It's not the end of the world, it's just... sad.
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Or you can enjoy the Flyer for what it is. I'm perfectly happy with my Flyer and can see myself holding on to it for another year or so. It does what I wanted then I bought it. A year from now I'll probably start looking for something a bit faster. Let's face it: no Android update is going to put a Tegra 3 into this device. But for now, my Flyer is just great, than you very much.
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+1 I am in love with my flyer. I too enjoy the flyer for what it is and will be holding onto it as it does what I wanted when i bought it. the only thing I wish I had was chrome browser (hopefully will get that as soon as Lisbon is fully developed). I think I just need to stop reading posts that make me feel that I should be dissatisfied when i am in fact very satisfied. I also need to stop reading post whereas it's as if HTC owes me something more for what I purchased. well maybe they do and maybe they don't but it does get tiresome reading complaints about it when in fact either nothing is going to be done about it or the complaints are made to those who can't do anything about it. and before I get screamed on - I know that this is a forum and it's purpose is to voice your opinion as often and as loud as you want. it's just that I want people to show the flyer some love. so now that I've had my say (which is really just said tongue in cheek) I would just like to say "can't we all just get along?"
Glad you guys can because if we didn't have developers I would of sold mine after 3 months. It your choice of gigantic phone or tablet ui slower than an atari 2600. Just sayin lol.
I'll be fair in saying gingerbread isn't bad but the Google apps running in phone mode and looking hideous kill it for me
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At any rate I'm enjoying mine now. Got mine on ioidroid senseless honeycomb, found an old version of adw ex where the tablet ui displays correctly and, I got things pretty spartan on it, and it works and its fast too. Overall for me the goal is to have an Android tablet that's fast and usable, not necessarily up to date
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to be honest I am not happy with the lack of software updates but I have not found a replacement 7" tablet on the market that can replace my Flyer's functionality. So I may not buy another HTC device, but if I am being honest it is a featured packed device that handles nearly every task you can throw at it. Now I didnt pay full price, and I likely would be more upset if I did, but for the $299 I paid for mine it is a very nice device.
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Glad you guys can because if we didn't have developers I would of sold mine after 3 months. It your choice of gigantic phone or tablet ui slower than an atari 2600. Just sayin lol.
I'll be fair in saying gingerbread isn't bad but the Google apps running in phone mode and looking hideous kill it for me
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well to be honest my love for the flyer is mainly due to the devs (and I prefer honeycomb over gingerbread). but the way that I see it is to just make the best of the situation at hand. if you can move on then by all means move on. if you can't afford to then make the best of what you have. and if you are sticking around for the sake of sticking around then please don't cry along the way and bring others down. And I'm not speaking of anyone in particular, please I don't want to make any enemies here. I come here for the fun of it not to chastise anyone (if I wanted to do that I have three children) or to be chastised (I have a wife for that)
When I find a decent tablet with a phone that takes a SIM card, I'll be all over it. That Samsung looks promising but I don't know if it'll take a SIM card.
Yeah I can't complain, my flyer cost me $200, and if I had waited for the Nexus 7 I wouldn't have the money now because my wife would of spent it on something else lol. That's married life for ya. At any rate I've gotten my money's worthy out of it and I got it running pretty fast. Just sick of the recent rally to try and get ics from htc again, didn't we just go through this a couple of months ago? It's a lost cause if you really want ics you either need to cut your losses or just be patient with our developers because it's not like one person decided not to update the flyer, a board of directors and a lot of other people did, and there simply aren't enough flyer owners to have any pull with HTC anyway
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I like my flyer, it is great for browsing and casual computing. I love the capacity of the unit and the expandability. It does everything I need. I'm still on GB; I never thought that HC was that good for a 7 inch tablet.
It's not really designed for 7 inch tabs no doubt. Really I'd be fine with gingerbread if the Google apps were just tablet optimized. Jelly bean addresses the need for a separate tablet ui for 7 inch tabs but imo they didn't put much thinking into it as you now have 2 black bars instead of 1
Also the phone launcher just sucks imo. Should of kept the honeycomb launcher and kept the buttons where they put them but no bar just buttons.
But on that note if we can get jelly bean with virtual buttons disabled it might just be perfect for our old tablet
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I don't care if HTC is going to be bought by someone, I'm going to keep trying to get the update. I might not get it, but at least they'll have to see what they've done written at their facebook pages and many more will know. Call it revenge, vendetta, whatever you want, I don't care, I own 4 Sensations too, and I've been a loyal HTC customer for years... and I have never been in this situation before. I can understand HTC not updating a device released two years ago, but the Flyer was released a year ago and ICS 6 months later.
And they're lying at us saying the tablet is optimized for Honeycomb... I don't like it when people lie to me.
Here in Europe the Flyer 3g was sold at 700€. That's 848 US $ at today's exchange rate... It's not a cheap device and it should have the update to something presented 6 months after Flyer was released. Don't you think???
I agree, my flyer cost USD 700. Not so fortunate. I really appreciate your effort.
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I purchased the Flyer because of its pen functionality and what it could do out of the box. Anyone who's ever purchased an Android phone knows that most devices only see one major software update. The Flyer got Honeycomb, which was no small feat. To my knowledge, HTC was the only OEM to update a tablet from Android 2.3 to Android 3.0. For a half second, I contemplated getting the Nexus 7, but I can't bear the thought of losing my pen functionality simply to say that I have a faster tablet with the latest version of Android.
I take issue with the statement that HTC will be bought out by the end of the year. While HTC has suffered a huge loss in the past three quarters, the company's revenue and profits are still solid. If HTC were a U.S. traded company, it would rank between 150-180 in the fortune 500 list and its YTD 2012 profits would be comparable to CBS, Progressive and Sysco.
Yeah but they still are clueless at what people want. Take the one series. Where are the sd cards and removable batteries? And why does the att version have half the storage? Why does sense 4.0 still have a gingerbreadish looking notification bar? Who gives a rats ass about beats by Dre?
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Who gives a rats ass about beats by Dre?
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Apparently HTC doesn't since they decided not to meet financial obligations to Beats....
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To my knowledge, HTC was the only OEM to update a tablet from Android 2.3 to Android 3.0.
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Apparently HTC doesn't since they decided not to meet financial obligations to Beats....
See also: Dell Streak 7....
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Well, they never updated my 4g dell streak!
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nickmgray said:
... Anyone who's ever purchased an Android phone knows that most devices only see one major software update....
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well, my first android phone (X10i) went from 1.6 -> 2.1 and eventually to 2.3.3 even though SE at the time was not know for their great support in regards to updating firmwares.
Hi everyone I'm curious to find out peoples history regarding smartphones and the reasons they may have chosen their next one...
1. Droid 1. Awesome phone great battery life awesome hackability...constant reboots and random hardware issues. Went through three of these with various hardware issues and eventually graduated to...
2. HTC Thunderbolt. Released before LTE efficiency and battery tech could catch up with each other. Fast as hell when configured properly and could still probably be a decent phone if oc'ed and running jelly bean. Eventually gave up on bloaty sense and the choked out development scene brought to us by either verizon or htc. (Probably the former).
3. Iphone 4...I know I know don't want to start a flame war. Gave up kickass 4g a nice big yet underwhelming screen and all of googles love to switch to the big evil apple...Like Adam and eve after the first bite I couldn't get enough. Top notch screen, brilliant responsiveness, great app ecosystem and ultimately good customisation if jailbroken. But it was all surface fluff... I missed my 4g and was worried about losing grandfathered unlimited data oj my next 4g phone so I jumped ship. I still think apple makes great products and there is something to be said about a closed ecosystem.
4. Rezound. Love this phone and now that chad has opened the floodgates to the amazing opportunities granted by aosp/cm/jb/miui////// I just can't wait to see what happens next. Thanks rezound community for sticking around and fostering good spirits through the bullsh** that is the verizon update process. I know we should just buy a phone for what it is at release and be happy, but all of us here see the true potential of our very powerful devices without bloated and antiquated gb sense. It's good to support it ourselves if the companies that sell it won't.
Yeesh I got a little lost and tangential or whatever but this is what I've been wondering about since I started flashing roms and hacking my devices. Now with chad bringing us what's really rilly ril I'm excited to hear about others journeys through the minefield of smartphone devices. Also excited I got a nexus 7 coming soon!
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OK, I'll play
1. Moto Q9C- wanted a phone that had a hardware keyboard and internet. It was either this or a BB, which had a higher data plan at the time (45 vs 30/ month)
2. TP2- got an upgrade after a year and got my first touchscreen device. Man that thing was a brick. Great phone to dev on, even made my own ROMs.
3. HD2- jumped to t-mobile due to issues with sprint. This phone was and is still a beast.
4. HD7- had to try the new windows phone. Would probably still be on it if t-mobile reception existed. Got out of 4 lines of t-mobile due to bad reception issues.
5. Thunderbolt- came down to 4g lte and android (which I wasn't a huge fan of) or the Trophy which had the windows phone I liked, but small screen and no lte. Think I made the right choice. Love windows phone, but verizon doesn't.
6. Rezound- opened a 5th line to get the rezound on penny sale through amazon. Great phone, no complaints. Don't care about aosp, don't think you should b!tch about something that didn't come stock on the phone. Still has great specs almost a year later.
7. who knows. When windows phone 8 comes out, if verizon gets one with good specs and lte, I might jump back. You definitely use your phone more on WP, than on Android where you spend half the day flashing and customizing.
I'll join in.
1. BlackBerry storm. Ugh
2. OG Droid. The phone that got me hooked on android.
3. Droid X. Great build quality and good development despite the locked bootloader.
4. Droid charge... Only droid I've seen that ran like my blackberry.
5. The rezound. Added a line and for it for a penny from Amazon. Promptly sold the charge and added a dumb phone to the second line.
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Well for me, I have a very short smartphone history so here it goes:
1. LG Ally - Didn't really get to pick the phone. After one of my sh*tty "feature" phones from vzw broke I looked around the house and found my moms old LG ally and used it for about 5 months. Loved that thing and hacked the sh*t out of it, loading up Roms like nobody's business. That's when I really fell in love with android.
2. HTC Rezound - when my upgrade came in December I picked the rezzy because it had kick ass specs and thought that it would get ICS shortly after release (which of course was NOT the case and this is the reason why many people got stuck with this phone). Overall I love it, and now thanks to chad who hung around through all the bs with the rezzy, we will shortly have CM9/10 as a daily driver.
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1) BlackBerry storm. what ^ said!!
2) Droid X. Loved it. Quality was fantastic and fun to customize despite the locked bootloader.
3) Droid Charge. Despised that piece of junk. Will never buy another Samsung phone again.
4) Rezound. Got Verizon to switch me to this as a warranty replacement for my Charge.
5) Plan on picking up the new iphone whenever it comes out.
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My first smartphone. Previous one was a Pantech Jest. Prior experience with Android includes Archos 32 (Eclair/Froyo) and HP Touchpad (CM7/CM9). Next I'll probably get the next generation Nexus, or maybe the one after that.
1.) Palm Centro
2.) Droid eris
3.) Samsung fascinate
4.) Droid inc 2
5.) Rezound
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1.First smartphone was the droid eris, used it a couple months and my uncle convinced me to hack it and actually liked the phone, ready to slap jb on it again
2. I had to get put on a different contract n got stuck with a moto citrus, poc phone, hated it
3. Samsung Galaxy S Continuum, replaced my citrus for free after 4 citrus and then went back to my eris after esn cleared
4. Rezound, i called up vzn about my mic going bad on my eris, guy felt bad n upgraded me to rezound been here since temp root, came alooong way n this is the greatest phone ever, s off n everything
5. Acer Iconia A500 running JB
Motorola Devour: Small screen, iffy build quality, underpowered android phone. Picked it up on a whim and started my smart phone journey
Motorola Droid X: Great phone, great build quality, loved having physical buttons. First phone that I rooted and rommed
Motorola Droid X2: This phone had potential (IMHO) but Moto dropped support for it unfortunately. Also suffered the curse of having 512mb RAM... seriously MOTO??? If given another chance I would not purchase this phone again (currently my backup if the Rezound dies)
HTC Rezound: Was looking forward to this phone for months and I love it. Quick, beautiful screen, able to accept a 64gb microsd card, and now s-offed so I can do with it what I want.
Future maybe:
HTC DLX: possible quad core, 5" 1080p screen.... drool
1. LG Voyager...dropped in water..
2. DROID 2 global.....very slow and got very hot....
3. HTC Droid Incredible....returned droid 2...i liked htc sense to much
4. HTC EVO 3D...bought to develop on nice phone....sold it like 2 days ago
5. HTC Rezound....HTC Droid Incredible was slow and old now needed upgrade
6. HTC Thunderbolt....i lost it...somewere my house lol
7. HP Touchpad wanted a tablet
8. Google Galaxy Nexus...needed a daily phone...
9. Nexus 7 .....sold my touchpad for it...
You're going to like that Nexus 7. I had to get a new one because of screen lift on mine, but other than that, it is great. I worked out of town all week, and left the laptop home, just took my rezound, and my nexus 7.
HTC 6700 (got old)
HTC 6800 touch (got old)
HTC Desire (left cellcom)
HTC EVO (gave to wife)
B&N Nook Color (still have)
HTC EVO 3d (got rid of sprint)
Sammy gallexy nexus (sammy radios suck)
HTC Rezound (still have)
Asus prime (junk, asus bought it back)
Asus Nexus 7 (defective, screen lift)
Asus Nexus 7 (still have)
Wife also had
sammy transform (junk)
HTC evo (got rid of sprint)
HTC rezound (still have)
Asus prime (junk asus bought it back)
Asus nexus 7 (still have)
Kid also had
B&N nook color (passed down from me)
Asus Nexus 7 (still have)
Yeah I'm excited to see the possibilities of unlimited 4g tethering on a snappy tablet. I'm glad I got grandfathered in to the cloud future!
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GoBlue13 said:
1) BlackBerry storm. what ^ said!!
2) Droid X. Loved it. Quality was fantastic and fun to customize despite the locked bootloader.
3) Droid Charge. Despised that piece of junk. Will never buy another Samsung phone again.
4) Rezound. Got Verizon to switch me to this as a warranty replacement for my Charge.
5) Plan on picking up the new iphone whenever it comes out.
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you know the new iPhone is the same exact thing, only with a slightly taller screen right?
1. Samsung Omnia i910
2. HTC Incredible
3. HTC Rezound
Alright My turn!
HTC Sensation: frickin amazing phone. Beautiful design, nice qHD (best at the time I got it) screen, HSPA, beautiful design, curved glass, great development (never really got I to development on this one tho ) oh did I mention a beautiful design? It was the perfect phone. However, T-Mobile has the WORST service in my area so I returned it after 2 weeks :'(
HTC Rezound: The sensation got me really in to HTC so I wanted to get an HTC for my phone I was going to keep, I knew verizon had good signal in my area so I wanted to go with them. I saw the Galaxy Nexus at the announcement in November and wanted the Nexus (Epic foreshadowing), and was horribly disappointed with the iPhone announcement a month earlier in October, but when the Rezound was on sale for a penny on amazon, PLUS 4Gb of data, I had to spring. It was a meh phone, lacked development and jelly bean wa just announced, so I found a sucker on Craigslist and traded it for a...
Galaxy Nexus: Awesome phone. Amazing screen, size design. Best phone I ever owned. Better than the sensation even, and I never thought I would say that. With CM9 it's amazing and as soon as cm10 RC1 pops up, I'm flashing that.
iPhone 2G: Never Activated. Bought on eBay just to play around with, keep me content with the mess that was the HTC ReZound. Installed Android 2.3.3 on it and Jailbroke and Unlocked the iOS side of it. It's fun to play with but definitely shows it's age
HTC DROID Incredible: never activated. Bought on Craigslist So i can get I to development a little. What an amazing little thing. I like to use it more than any of my other phones. A little slower than the other things so not a daily driver but it's so fun to tweak, and I can get a week of battery life out of that thing.
iPad 3 16GB VZW 4G: wanted a tablet, android tablets just weren't up to par at the time, so I picked this up. I love it. Hell I'm using it now. The display is really what made me choose it over an android. Preordered it and it arrived on my doorstep on launch day, Mar 14. Running a beta of iOS 6 right now and I have Siri on it.
So that's the history of all my smartphones and tablets
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Tl;dr
Sensation: bad service switched to..
Rezound: not so good phone switched to...
Galaxy nexus: amazing phone will keep for the rest of my contract
Side/Dev phones:
iPhone 2G
HTC DInc
Tablet: iPad 3
1) old school blackberry pearl > decent at its time
2) old blackberry curve > also decent at its time.
3) T-Mobile mytouch 3g (HTC magic 32b) > got this for free from my girlfriends aunt. Rooted it the second day I got it, bricked it and spent 12hrs straight fixing it. Its my main phone currently.
4) Droid Incredible > girlfriends moms. I play around with it and hack on it, awesome phone for its age.
Tablets
1) Archos 80G9 1.0ghz > piece of junk but with an OMAP 4430 soc, it was the best tablet for its price. Cheap build and crappy buggy firmware. That broke, sent to RMA and got a free upgrade to...
2) Archos 80G9 1.5ghz > much faster with the OMAP 4460 and 1gb ram, still crappy firmware and not much development past stock firmware. Awesome dev community though, best community I've seen on XDA. Of course all the awesome ROMs comes out after it broke again. I gave up and bought a...
3) Asus Nexus 7 > awesome tablet! I love it and can't get enough of it!
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1) old school blackberry pearl > decent at its time
2) old blackberry curve > also decent at its time.
3) T-Mobile mytouch 3g (HTC magic 32b) > got this for free from my girlfriends aunt. Rooted it the second day I got it, bricked it and spent 12hrs straight fixing it. Its my main phone currently.
4) Droid Incredible > girlfriends moms. I play around with it and hack on it, awesome phone for its age.
Tablets
1) Archos 80G9 1.0ghz > piece of junk but with an OMAP 4430 soc, it was the best tablet for its price. Cheap build and crappy buggy firmware. That broke, sent to RMA and got a free upgrade to...
2) Archos 80G9 1.5ghz > much faster with the OMAP 4460 and 1gb ram, still crappy firmware and not much development past stock firmware. Awesome dev community though, best community I've seen on XDA. Of course all the awesome ROMs comes out after it broke again. I gave up and bought a...
3) Asus Nexus 7 > awesome tablet! I love it and can't get enough of it!
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Awesome avatar dude :good:
1) LG Env3 it was my first smarter than a dumb phone
2) Samsung fascinate by first android device, paid 200 for it off of Craigs list. had to wait a long time for froyo but the developers stayed with it and now its running jelly bean. its my current back up.
3) HTC Rezound my second android device bought it for 200 back in February because i wanted a dual core phone that had a nice screen and the 4G speeds with no data limit. still bone stock because i was going to wait for the ota.
4) HTC Thunderbolt got it for 100 of craigs list because my dads droid x's screen went out and he needed my fassy, it was already running cm7 when i bought it and it was pretty quick for having such a crappy gpu.
Tablet
Samsung galaxy tab 7.0 wifi was very dissapointed that it had a omap 3625 instead of the hummingbird. no devs no roms no gingerbread in U.S so i flashed the UK version of gingerbread and now it works great
Oh, let's see if I can remember all of them...
1) iPhone 2G. My very first smartphone.
2) iPhone 3G. Got it simply because I was eligible for upgrade and I like new things.
3) iPhone 3GS. Same as above.
4) Nexus One, my first android smartphone. I loved the design of this thing. All aluminium phones will always have a soft spot in my heart. It's a fairly refreshing to get away from the plastic-dominated phones every once in awhile. I wish more phones would have less plastic and more metal.
5) iPhone 4. What can I say...I didn't have my Nexus One for long. It wasn't that I didn't truly enjoy my Nexus One. It was just that, after having iPhones three times in a row, I was still a little enamored with it, so I got sucked in to the iPhone 4 when it came out mainly because it was new and shiny. Didn't last long, though.
6) Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S). I only had my iPhone 4 for a month. It only took that long for me to realize that I truly did enjoy Android more. Somewhat unfortunately, I had already sold my Nexus One by the time I had realized this, so I opted for the then recently released Captivate. I started with tweaks and custom ROMs right out of the gate. I remember that the Captivate, for some reason, was formatted using RFS or something, so the biggest tweak around was reformatting to EXT2 or EXT4 for much better I/O performance.
7) HTC EVO 4G. This was what solidified HTC as one of my favorite phone manufacturers. I felt that the Nexus One was a very well designed phone and the EVO drove it home for me. Didn't have a single issue with that phone. I remember getting it because Sprint had just come out with 4G. I use my phone primarily for data services so I thought 4G would be a great move. It turned out that WiMAX sucks and that Sprint, in general, wasn't as good coverage and 3G data speed-wise as I had come to expect with AT&T. Neither of those points were against the phone, though, which I thought was excellent.
8) HTC EVO Shift 4G. After having (what was that, 7?) all touch screen phones I decided to try one with a physical keyboard to see if I liked it. I had the phone for less than a month. The physical keyboard felt terrible to me. I don't think it was the keyboard on the Shift itself that was the problem. I think that I had become too accustomed to touch screen keyboards. I was way slower at typing on the physical keyboard. I returned the phone and went back to my regular EVO.
9) Motorola Atrix 4G. I got this phone primarily because Dual Core was the next big thing and because I wanted to switch back to AT&T from Sprint (see #7 as to why). I had no complaints against the phone itself. It performed very well. There was, for awhile, a bit of a snafu about Motorola's bootloader unlocking policy at the time. The Atrix bootloader was eventually unlocked, but if I remember right it was due to a leak and not an official source.
10) Motorola Bionic. So from Sprint, back to AT&T, and then to my first time with Verizon. The reason here was similar to my EVO: Verizon had just launched 4G LTE in my area and I was excited about the prospect of much higher data speeds. Where as Sprint's 4G was a disappointment for me, Verizon really blew it out of the water. I was satisfied with my Bionic at first, but there were some issues with 4G. It would drop 4G far more often than my coworker's phones (Samsung Charge and HTC Thunderbolt) even though we were in the very same place. There were also issues with data hand off between 4G and 3G and even issues with data dropping out entirely. Many people at the Verizon community forums were reporting the same things. Eventually, I got to the point where I was no longer confident that Motorola would fix these issues in a timely manner.
11) Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I wanted to love this phone, I really did. I switched off my Bionic because of the issues I mentioned. I loved the idea of having a Nexus device. Getting timely and guaranteed updates to the latest Android seemed like a blessing. I loved the size of the screen, the way it looked, the performance...I even liked how it felt despite many people calling Samsung phones "plasticy." It wasn't all sunshine and rainbows, though. I switched my Bionic because I felt like my 4G LTE connectivity wasn't as good as it should be. Turns out my Bionic's reception was actually leaps and bounds better than the Galaxy Nexus. I had the Nexus for three weeks and reception was down right horrid. In those three weeks I saw 4G LTE in my notification bar maybe a grand total of 3 or 4 times. It was a drastic and noticeable drop from my Bionic. The phone averaged about 20% time spent without a signal. It was terrible. It was sad because I literally liked everything else about the phone.
12) HTC Rezound. As I said, I kept my Galaxy Nexus for only 3 weeks because of terrible reception. When I switched it out for the Rezound it was like night and day. The Rezound immediately connected to and held on to 4G LTE far more often and for longer. I went from being on 3G a majority of the time with my Nexus to having it the other way around. My Rezound would (and does) pick up 4G most of the time while at work. It only drops down to 3G occasionally. Also, where as my Nexus averaged 20% time spent without a signal, the Rezound was and is 0% in comparison. After getting the Rezound I couldn't believe how terrible the Nexus' radio was in comparison. I'm not sure if Samsung or Google ever managed to fix those problems with software. I just know that I didn't want to hang on to it and hope.
Aaaaaand...that's it! My last and current smartphone is the HTC Rezound. I'll admit, I was and maybe still am (a little) tempted by the Galaxy S3 but...well, the terrible reception on the Galaxy Nexus has still left a bit of a bad impression in my mind as far as Samsung phones go. I think Google should go back to HTC for the Nexus phones
I have always been with Verizon since I was 18 and I am now 26. I won't start with the dumb phones since those don't really count...
1. Motorola Q
2. LG Ally (returned and got Droid X instead.)
3. Droid X (I really loved this phone. I might look online or Craigslist to buy another one to setup on my home theater as a media player )
4. HTC Incredible (bought this on Craigslist. Wanted to try CM7 because Droid X didn't have it at the time.)
5. HTC Thunderbolt (traded the Droid.X and Incredible together to someone for this Thunderbolt)
6. IPhone 4S (my brother messed up his phone and needed a new one but didn't have an upgrade. He offered me $200 for my Thunderbolt and I went ahead and figured I would try out an iPhone 4S. I loved the build quality and the selection of apps, but I just missed Android and preferred all of the customization and roms.
7. HTC Rezound (Traded the 4S and don't regret it one bit.)