I know a lot of you are keen on cases that charges &increases the usage time of your Ultra. So here is another option that is probably cheaper, and has a higher capacity than Sony's, yet to be released case. The case uses the magnetic dock/ pins to charge the device.
Like i said before, I really can't see myself using this device, or anything similar. I purchased a case, and yet I would rather use the Ultra naked. It just feels better... (yeah I know there are so many ways you could read that last sentence.. but i'll leave it there anyway!)
Cost: $36 USD
LINK: http://shop.brando.com/Power-Jacket-for-Sony-Xperia-Z-Ultra-4500mAh_p09950c1591d003.html
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I have one... Its ok but the charging capacity is overstated.. You will be lucky to et one full charge out of the device..
There is another thread around here somewhere. Someone actually broke his and so actually ripped it apart to see what was inside. It was a generic 4000Mah 3.7v battery.
Also even though the case is light, when combined with the phone it does feel considerably heavier. I've charged mine up and just left it in the glovebox of my car in case of emergencies.
baileyjr said:
I have one... Its ok but the charging capacity is overstated.. You will be lucky to et one full charge out of the device..
There is another thread around here somewhere. Someone actually broke his and so actually ripped it apart to see what was inside. It was a generic 4000Mah 3.7v battery.
Also even though the case is light, when combined with the phone it does feel considerably heavier. I've charged mine up and just left it in the glovebox of my car in case of emergencies.
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Sup man,
I haven't bothered verifying if this case uses a Li-Po.. but if you do some quick google, you would see that keeping a Li-Po battery on full charge for too long would kill it after some time.. That's how I killed my original Galaxy note battery.. That's why manufacturers stock their batteries at only 40% charge and not on full charge.. :fingers-crossed:
capitansid said:
Sup man,
I haven't bothered verifying if this case uses a Li-Po.. but if you do some quick google, you would see that keeping a Li-Po battery on full charge for too long would kill it after some time.. That's how I killed my original Galaxy note battery.. That's why manufacturers stock their batteries at only 40% charge and not on full charge.. :fingers-crossed:
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I'll bear that in mind. Thanks for that :good:
I'm enjoying mine, so thanks to the dude who posted the link in another thread about this.
Question though: I need to tell the phone to not turn the screen on every time I'm charging/no longer charging. Any recommendations?
not working
hi i just received the brando case.
but i was unable to get it to work. is it due to my firmware? im not using the official sony firmware
im on Paranoid Android beta 2.
please advise. thank you.
JunBringer said:
I'm enjoying mine, so thanks to the dude who posted the link in another thread about this.
Question though: I need to tell the phone to not turn the screen on every time I'm charging/no longer charging. Any recommendations?
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JunBringer, as you've got one, and I'm not sure wheather to get this or the official Sony battery case, can you tell me please.
Can I have the Power Jacket charging while I'm connected and using the phone, and, will it charge itself and the phone when the Power Jacket 's turned on ?
Thanks
liviococcia said:
JunBringer, as you've got one, and I'm not sure wheather to get this or the official Sony battery case, can you tell me please.
Can I have the Power Jacket charging while I'm connected and using the phone, and, will it charge itself and the phone when the Power Jacket 's turned on ?
Thanks
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Yes you can. When the phone and jacket is on and connected it will charge the internal phone battery first and then switch to recharging the powerjacket :good:
baileyjr said:
Yes you can. When the phone and jacket is on and connected it will charge the internal phone battery first and then switch to recharging the powerjacket :good:
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Thanks Baileyjr, just one last question please, where did you get yours?
I've seen them on Mobilefun.co.uk £39.99, but I've seen what looks to be exactly the same product for less on Amazon.co.uk £27.00 (seller is Deal Zone) they both appear to have the lable 'Power Case' on the inside and not 'Power Jacket'
Cheers
liviococcia said:
Thanks Baileyjr, just one last question please, where did you get yours?
I've seen them on Mobilefun.co.uk £39.99, but I've seen what looks to be exactly the same product for less on Amazon.co.uk £27.00 (seller is Deal Zone) they both appear to have the lable 'Power Case' on the inside and not 'Power Jacket'
Cheers
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I got mine from brando workshop in China buddy.
http://shop.brando.com/Power-Jacket-with-cover-For-Sony-Xperia-Z-Ultra-4500mAh_p10103c1599d003.html
Although the one I have doesn't have the flip cover for the front.
hamdogg said:
I know a lot of you are keen on cases that charges &increases the usage time of your Ultra. So here is another option that is probably cheaper, and has a higher capacity than Sony's, yet to be released case. The case uses the magnetic dock/ pins to charge the device.
Like i said before, I really can't see myself using this device, or anything similar. I purchased a case, and yet I would rather use the Ultra naked. It just feels better... (yeah I know there are so many ways you could read that last sentence.. but i'll leave it there anyway!)
Cost: $36 USD
LINK: http://shop.brando.com/Power-Jacket-for-Sony-Xperia-Z-Ultra-4500mAh_p09950c1591d003.html
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Thank you for your information!! :good:
baileyjr said:
I got mine from brando workshop in China buddy.
http://shop.brando.com/Power-Jacket-with-cover-For-Sony-Xperia-Z-Ultra-4500mAh_p10103c1599d003.html
Although the one I have doesn't have the flip cover for the front.
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Do you have trouble with yours turning on and off in your pocket, thus turning the screen on constantly? I only use mine now when it's sitting stationary somewhere because of this.
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Do you have trouble with yours turning on and off in your pocket, thus turning the screen on constantly? I only use mine now when it's sitting stationary somewhere because of this.
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No I'd not noticed that, but I've since taken the case off and I have it in my glovebox in case of emergencies.
Whilst I appreciate the purpose of this case, it exposes the sides of our XZU making it prone to damage. I would have preferred to see a proper jacket that proteted all sides for better protection. lets hope some other brands or newer versions are released soon ideally identical in design to my current case ROCK Flexi Series View Case for Xperia Z Ultra.
baileyjr said:
I got mine from brando workshop in China buddy.
ht tp://shop.brando.com/Power-Jacket-with-cover-For-Sony-Xperia-Z-Ultra-4500mAh_p10103c1599d003.html
Although the one I have doesn't have the flip cover for the front.
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I have this exact case ordered. I will provide a review when it arrives. Sadly it's just leaving for shipment today, so it will be 10-20 days.
Is anyone else having problems with this case after updating to firmware .136? Or is it just coincidence that my case is defective the same day that I updated?
My phone started going on and off charging without me pressing the button and now the case won't charge the phone at all. The LEDs light up on the case for a second when I press the button, but it doesn't charge the phone.
reiji said:
Is anyone else having problems with this case after updating to firmware .136? Or is it just coincidence that my case is defective the same day that I updated?
My phone started going on and off charging without me pressing the button and now the case won't charge the phone at all. The LEDs light up on the case for a second when I press the button, but it doesn't charge the phone.
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My Sony XZU model C6388 (UK) is on firmware 14.2.A.0.290, I'm not experiencing any issues on this firmware and I can't see how an external battery that is connected only using Sony's power contacts can get effected by a kernel update, it's more likely that you haven't charged the battery either because the micro USB port is damaged in the external battery pack, or there's a problem with the cable or USB power adapter you might be using, or that the cells in the battery pack are damaged.
Secondly, check to make sure that the connections between the battery pack and the phone are making a good contact, some of these packs get a little out of shape where the connection block is, especially if you constantly remove and reattach the pack.
So to test it out, i would remove the pack from the phone first then charge it up (check that the blue light is illuminated when you plug in the micro USB lead), then reattach to the phone and turn the battery pack on (making sure the packs got a good connection)
If you still have no luck, then chances are it's the battery pack that's at fault.
Hope this helps.
Regards
liviococcia said:
My Sony XZU model C6388 (UK) is on firmware 14.2.A.0.290, I'm not experiencing any issues on this firmware and I can't see how an external battery that is connected only using Sony's power contacts can get effected by a kernel update, it's more likely that you haven't charged the battery either because the micro USB port is damaged in the external battery pack, or there's a problem with the cable or USB power adapter you might be using, or that the cells in the battery pack are damaged.
Secondly, check to make sure that the connections between the battery pack and the phone are making a good contact, some of these packs get a little out of shape where the connection block is, especially if you constantly remove and reattach the pack.
So to test it out, i would remove the pack from the phone first then charge it up (check that the blue light is illuminated when you plug in the micro USB lead), then reattach to the phone and turn the battery pack on (making sure the packs got a good connection)
If you still have no luck, then chances are it's the battery pack that's at fault.
Hope this helps.
Regards
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Thanks for the input. I agree - it doesn't make sense that firmware could affect it, but I was a bit paranoid after hearing about Samsung's issue with 3rd party S-View cases.
I plugged in the case for just a few minutes and now it's suddenly working again. The LEDs were indicating a full charge and it's been charging the phone for a while now, so I'm not sure what the issue was.
Besides this little issue, I'm very happy with the case and I got a great deal on Amazon.
I have the flip cover version of this one.
It's definitely thinner and more form fitting than the CP12, but since it doesn't WORK (It just doesn't charge my Z Ultra in any capacity, yet receives a charge itself), I can't use it. It's a shame, because I like it comparatively.
Mine is a pain to get it to work...like most of the time the phone wont recognize that is trying to charge it. When it does it works great but its a rarity :/
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077EU85E/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
Just got this bad boy delivered today and so far, it works great and it has slot to charge a second battery but unfortunately not an extended battery. It does have a insert in the main cradle however that can be removed so you can charge the phone with certain cases and possibly an extended battery (Have not tested yet).
Pros:
Can charge the phone and another Battery at the same time.
Has a good weight and is very stable.
Cheap!
Cons:
The USB wall charger it comes with does not give you a full AC charge but a USB charge. I changed out the wall charger and I was back to AC.
Can't charge the extended battery on it's own. (you might be able to do some cutting in order to make it fit however.)
EDIT**** I know I said that this will charge an extended battery but I'm not sure that's fact yet. I believe it will only fit certain cases and not sure if there is enough room for the extended battery. If after testing it does fit, I'll make the corrections here. Sorry if I got any false hopes up.
looks cool, may pick one up.
says in the description that it doesnt fit the extended battery
racinwarrior said:
looks cool, may pick one up.
says in the description that it doesnt fit the extended battery
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Well there you go! I didn't actually read the description that closely apparently.
txkorm said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077EU85E/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
Just got this bad boy delivered today and so far, it works great and it has slot to charge a second battery but unfortunately not an extended battery. It does have a insert in the main cradle however that can be removed so you can charge the phone with certain cases and possibly an extended battery (Have not tested yet).
Pros:
Can charge the phone and another Battery at the same time.
Has a good weight and is very stable.
Cheap!
Cons:
The USB wall charger it comes with does not give you a full AC charge but a USB charge. I changed out the wall charger and I was back to AC.
Can't charge the extended battery on it's own. (you might be able to do some cutting in order to make it fit however.)
EDIT**** I know I said that this will charge an extended battery but I'm not sure that's fact yet. I believe it will only fit certain cases and not sure if there is enough room for the extended battery. If after testing it does fit, I'll make the corrections here. Sorry if I got any false hopes up.
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i actually bought My EZO dock charger back on february 26th and i use it everyday and yes it does charge extended battery if its connected to the phone and it fits most cases
just wondering do ur battery lights work on the bottom of the charger?? mine is always blue and green just wondering if anyone else is haviong this also
R187J said:
i actually bought My EZO dock charger back on february 26th and i use it everyday and yes it does charge extended battery if its connected to the phone and it fits most cases
just wondering do ur battery lights work on the bottom of the charger?? mine is always blue and green just wondering if anyone else is haviong this also
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I believe the blue light is power and the green light is for the second battery. If you put a battery in there that needs juice, it'll turn red and back to green when charged.
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Great find guys, I'm gunna get this for the wife since I took her OEM dock
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Will this work for the gel case with extended battery ? Like the one I have for the thunderbolt
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Maybe I have a different one, or my USB on the charger is at a bad angle but there's no way the phone will charge with the extended battery with or without a case. Bummer! Still awesome though.
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Here's some pics of the red and green light as well as the angle of the USB.
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txkorm said:
I believe the blue light is power and the green light is for the second battery. If you put a battery in there that needs juice, it'll turn red and back to green when charged.
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Well my lights stay blue and green no matter what I do Lmao
U using USB charge or AC charger???
And I kinda wish it enabled dock mode sux I have to put it in dock mode by hand each time
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Looks like I need to pick one up, today is payday!!!!
R187J said:
Well my lights stay blue and green no matter what I do Lmao
U using USB charge or AC charger???
And I kinda wish it enabled dock mode sux I have to put it in dock mode by hand each time
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AC. Where do I find the dock mode?
KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
Bummer that it won't fit with a case.
WA_Bob said:
Bummer that it won't fit with a case.
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.... Nobody said that. It will fit certain cases. You just have to take out the insert that you see in the picture.
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Do you have problems inserting it into the dock. Seems like inserting it into the microUSB connector would be a pain.
krelvinaz said:
Do you have problems inserting it into the dock. Seems like inserting it into the microUSB connector would be a pain.
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At first I did but once you get the feel for the angle, it goes in like butter......... Well maybe chunky peanut butter. It's not bad at all.
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Just ordered mine! Can't wait to play with this puppy
This is a better option than the Verizon dock that I got with mine. In order to use it I have to take the phone out of the case every time...and no slot for an extra battery. Now I just need to sell my dock...
Thanks for this link. I've been looking for a dock that will fit with the case installed.
Well first off I have to say that shipping with this seller is top notch. Wasn't expecting it this early.
Within the first 2 seconds of having this dock I broke the thing that keeps the battery snug in the back. I used my training from my days with the A-team to make the battery stick. The phone with extended battery fits but kind of awkwardly. I MscGyver'd something else to make it sit more naturally.
Umm I really do need something to charge both so I'd order again if I had to, it's a decent dock just not made 100% the way it should be IMO
I am looking at this unit or at another unit:
http://www.amazon.com/RND-Power-Solutions-Battery-compatible/product-reviews/B006IKLPSC
Not sure why anyone would have tried both, but if so, any comments?
my s2 has gone mental tonight.
i charged it up to 100% before i left. then tonight for some reason it kept showing this when the charger wasnt plugged in
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so i kept restarting and taking out the battery til it stopped.
you can see the charging period didnt seem to show up on the graph. the charging period shown there i was not charging but the phone seemed to think it was. so as i was restarting it a few times it went from about 70 to 49 to 17 to 49 again
and also i havent been able to get a phone signal for ages and then when i can it wont let me register a network.
my phone is now basically just a wifi web browsing device until i get it sorted :crying:
Sounds like a battery failure.. Not sure tho.
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oh ive just seen this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...unable-make-calls-text.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
thats a relief. o2 is down nationwide
EVERY single time I've heard of this issue (and there are a TON of threads all over XDA about this, not to mention all over other forums - seriously, just google "i9100 charging paused voltage too high", and watch how many results you get), it is due to a dirty or failing USB port.
Steps to take.
-clean USB port with a clean, dry brush. (don't be TOO rough)
-if that doesn't work, take out the battery, and with a q-tip and small amount of isopropyl alcohol, clean the USB port. Let it dry, then replace the battery.
-if THAT doesn't work, you'll probably have to get the part for the USB port replaced.
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elquango said:
oh ive just seen this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...unable-make-calls-text.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
thats a relief. o2 is down nationwide
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This has nothing to do with what you posted...
yeah i know. i had both things happen at the same time so initially i thought it was my phone on the fritz and they were related
so i tried those things and it still having problems.
I bought this replacement in Nov off Ebay. After i lost my original one. Do you think I can still take it anywhere to be repaired?
will the o2 store look at it for me?
such a hassle. im gonna have to unroot it and stuff
oh great and now it keeps randomly vibrating and going to this screen and then back to my home screen
elquango said:
so i tried those things and it still having problems.
I bought this replacement in Nov off Ebay. After i lost my original one. Do you think I can still take it anywhere to be repaired?
will the o2 store look at it for me?
such a hassle. im gonna have to unroot it and stuff
oh great and now it keeps randomly vibrating and going to this screen and then back to my home screen
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By "those things" I'm guessing you didn't actually replace the part for the USB port. Just the cleaning steps?
That image is "desk clock" mode. It gets activated when certain pins in the USB port are shorted with a specific resistance. If you thoroughly cleaned the port as best you could, and are getting random desk clock mode and still randomly getting the charging paused message, then I'd say your USB port is dying a slow death. You'll need to get the part replaced.
From what I hear the part itself is pretty cheap (like $15) and not hard to replace. I don't know if O2 will do it for you though, since you didn't actually buy the phone from them. You can try... but I doubt it, since it was a second hand purchase. Or just take it to a local cellular repair shop.
My phone is also having a similar experience. I running an AOKP rom so it keeps charging instead. How long will the usb port work for. It's being sent back to Samsung to have the screen replace and have notified them about this. So will the usb port work till next week or could it die in hours or days?
imlgl said:
My phone is also having a similar experience. I running an AOKP rom so it keeps charging instead. How long will the usb port work for. It's being sent back to Samsung to have the screen replace and have notified them about this. So will the usb port work till next week or could it die in hours or days?
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I'm not sure how someone on a different continent than you can possibly answer a question about the state of the USB port on your phone and how long it will last.
ctomgee said:
By "those things" I'm guessing you didn't actually replace the part for the USB port. Just the cleaning steps?
That image is "desk clock" mode. It gets activated when certain pins in the USB port are shorted with a specific resistance. If you thoroughly cleaned the port as best you could, and are getting random desk clock mode and still randomly getting the charging paused message, then I'd say your USB port is dying a slow death. You'll need to get the part replaced.
From what I hear the part itself is pretty cheap (like $15) and not hard to replace. I don't know if O2 will do it for you though, since you didn't actually buy the phone from them. You can try... but I doubt it, since it was a second hand purchase. Or just take it to a local cellular repair shop.
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hmm i'll have to look into it then. no idea where to start buying parts and where to take it to repair.
will have to do some research
It can by caused by humidity too in my opinion. Had this problem few times. My friend had too. It was gone after putting out battery for few hours in warm place. Even when I was keeping my phone in locker at roofed swimming pool it was happening.
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I'm not sure how someone on a different continent than you can possibly answer a question about the state of the USB port on your phone and how long it will last.
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I'm going on average, like how long would be last. Roughly. Mine's been doing it for the past 3 days.
imlgl said:
I'm going on average, like how long would be last. Roughly. Mine's been doing it for the past 3 days.
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It depends on the severity of the damage specific to your phone. If it's damaged more severely, then not long. If it's not damaged so severely, then longer. How long it's been doing it doesn't mean anything.
ctomgee said:
It depends on the severity of the damage specific to your phone. If it's damaged more severely, then not long. If it's not damaged so severely, then longer. How long it's been doing it doesn't mean anything.
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Well it's still charging but my pc no longer recognises it so I don't thin it's going to last too long.
ok its getting worse now. ive requested a repair from samsung.
before i send it off should i remove all my google and facebook accounts or should it be ok to leave that kind of stuff on there?
As long as it's unrooted, running stock firmware, has the flash counter reset if necessary, why would you need to remove stuff like that first ? I probably wouldn't.
Always remove personal data. Fully wipe your phone. You never know who works in service and what will di with your personal stuff. Thats my opinion.
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As long as it's unrooted, running stock firmware, has the flash counter reset if necessary, why would you need to remove stuff like that first ? I probably wouldn't.
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what are they gonna do if its rooted?
i dont have warranty anway so im gonna have to pay for the repair
look how mental the battery is being.
having to back up things through airdroid cos i cant use the usb now
If rooted they CAN cancel warranty.
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I got a brand new s2 two and a half weeks ago, 1 week ago when unplugging my charger it sort of went crazy bringing up the car mode, desk clock, charging when it wasn't and the voltage too high popup every 30 seconds. I took it back and they exchanged it straightaway however i have had this one for 3 days and its done exactly the same thing. I rooted and installed a custom rom on the first but left the second totally stock. It also happened to the girlfriends note too.....
Luckily i haven't had the phone for a month yet so i'm still entitled to an exchange but this has put me off samsung and i'm thinking of an alternative if they'll allow me to take a different handset.
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Hey guys,
I went out on a limb and bought the OWL car charger+dock for my DNA.
There is a bunch of discussion on the item here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029734 along with plenty of pictures.
I wanted to let you guys know some specifics for the DNA:
1. The phone fits perfectly into the clip. I don't have any cases, so I can't test that, but naked the phone fits like a glove and is very secure, even upside down.
2. Even the "second generation" of charger still does not put out enough juice for the DNA, even with the phone at idle.
I have emailed Moon and will update this thread when I hear back from him. I am thinking the problem might have something to do with the controller inside the charger. It switches to red (charging) momentarily when the phone is inserted, but then switches back to green (full).
bmyton said:
I have emailed Moon and will update this thread when I hear back from him.
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Update 1: Moon has emailed back already to assure me that if the charger doesn't work, he will do what it takes to make it right.
I am hoping we can figure out a way to make the phone work in the charger, since I love the design and the convenience of Qi...
awesome! I have been wondering if it works for our phone since I saw the post you linked above about a week ago. I emailed moon about it, but he was unsure. I'm glad that someone confirmed what I have been wondering. Thanks again
I'm also looking forward to more info on this. Going through the website I couldn't quite follow if it worked or not.
Update 2:
The Qi charging coil built into the CarPad does work to charge the HTC DNA, unfortunately the coil is positioned about 0.5" too low for the phone.
Moon is working on an adjustment to the circuit board to re-position the charging coil.
Tonight I am going to take a look at temperatures during charging. With the screen turned on the battery did get 3-4°C warmer than normal on the Nokia Qi charger, but it was a pretty short charge. I am going to try leaving the screen turned on and the phone charging on the CarPad tonight for a couple of hours to see the charge rate and temperature change.
Other news:
There does not seem to be any scuffing, scratching, or denting of the phone's finish caused by inserting and removing from the clip. I had worried that the spring arms on the side might hurt the matte finish on the back of the phone, but so far I don't see any changes.
Thanks guys,
Ben
thanks for the update, keep us posted. in car qi charging is very interesting.
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Thanks, I got a reply from Moon that he thinks the "autopad" will be the option for the DNA and he'll let me know when it is available. I will post info here if I hear back.
http://owlpad.net/owl-autopad/
Update 3:
Good news tonight. First, I've done a temperature test using the phone at room temperature. With navigation, LTE, and the screen constantly on the CarPad provides moderage charge (+200mAh) and does not cause excessively high heat (under 45°C). This is comparable with the 43°C I saw with the Nokia Qi charger while watching a Netflix Stream.
With the screen off the temperature is also pretty normal (35°C) so I think the coil is good.
Moon at Owl Chargers tells me that he may add a little to the coil to make it more consistent on the charging, and he is going to create a new PCB that has the coil positioned 1/2" higher so that it will line up properly with the DNA.
It sounds like this change could happen pretty quickly, but I will let you know when I have the test board in hand.
Thanks guys,
Ben
Please keep the updates coming, thanks!
Hey everyone, sorry for a few days of delay.
I talked to Moon this morning and he thinks they should have the test board created by the beginning of next week. He is moving the charging coil up to line up better with both the DNA and the Galaxy S3, and he is upgrading to a bigger charging coil to presumably give better charging efficiency.
I have removed the standard charging coil from the phone holding base and have been using it as a standard desktop charger for the last few days (with the Owl-Pad supplied AC Adapter). It has been working well for that as long as I position the phone properly, so with any luck the new board should fix the problem in the car mount.
I will let you guys know when the new part ships, and will be sure to take pictures of the new versus old board.
Thanks,
Ben
Thanks for the updates.
Sudo make me a sandwich.
Good news from Moon at OWL Pad today, the new circuit board is complete, his testing looks good, and he is shipping it out to me to test on the DNA tomorrow.
I will update everyone here with pictures once I have the new board and have been able to try it out, but Moon posted some initial tests on the Galaxy S3 and Note 2 which both charge at the higher position. Those tests looked good so I have to think it will work on the DNA as well.
Thanks all,
Ben
(You can see my pictures and charging screenshots on the OwlPad site)
http://owlpad.net/2013/02/24/owl-carpad-for-htc-droid-dn/
AWESOME! thanks again. for the final product, he will make a new charger right? we wont have to buy the old one and replace the circuit board i hope.
thanks again.
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AWESOME! thanks again. for the final product, he will make a new charger right? we wont have to buy the old one and replace the circuit board i hope.
thanks again.
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I'm not sure how he would do that. I'm sure he has a bunch of the units already boxed up from the last production run. It might be that he has to ship the old unit and the new board separate. Honestly, changing the board was incredibly easy. There are four screws and then the old board just lifts out and the new one drops in.
When the new one comes in I had planned on putting up pictures showing how to remove the old one and install the new one.
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I'm not sure how he would do that. I'm sure he has a bunch of the units already boxed up from the last production run. It might be that he has to ship the old unit and the new board separate. Honestly, changing the board was incredibly easy. There are four screws and then the old board just lifts out and the new one drops in.
When the new one comes in I had planned on putting up pictures showing how to remove the old one and install the new one.
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I think I'd love to get both boards since then I'd be prepared if my next phone requires the "other" position.
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I think I'd love to get both boards since then I'd be prepared if my next phone requires the "other" position.
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Looks like the set is for sale for the DNA on the web page now. Still sounds like he's waiting for test results but you go through with an order now if you want.
Hey Guys,
I got the unit in the mail when I got home from work (30 minutes ago).
So far everything looks GREAT!
I am running temperature and charging tests now, but the new coil position looks perfect, and I'm getting as much or possibly more current out of the OWL charger than I was getting out of the Nokia.
Tonight I should have pictures and screen shots available from my early tests, but I have to say that everything looks great so far.
I also want to add that the level of customer service and responsiveness from Moon at OWL charging was incredible. If I got service half as good from the companies I do business with in the US I would be amazed, and these folks are having to deal with me from the other side of the world. I have absolutely no ties with their company, and hadn't even spoken to them to ask if the charger worked for my phone before I ordered, but they went above and beyond any expectations in getting this charger working.
Once I have a few hours charging I can fill in the remaining details (temperatures, approximate charge time, etc), but right now I would say the newest version is a huge success!
-Ben
bmyton said:
So far everything looks GREAT!
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I forgot to mention, the +300 mah charging rate was with the screen locked on, LTE, GPS, Navigation, and Pandora all running.
Ben
bmyton said:
Hey Guys,
I got the unit in the mail when I got home from work (30 minutes ago).
So far everything looks GREAT!
I am running temperature and charging tests now, but the new coil position looks perfect, and I'm getting as much or possibly more current out of the OWL charger than I was getting out of the Nokia.
Tonight I should have pictures and screen shots available from my early tests, but I have to say that everything looks great so far.
I also want to add that the level of customer service and responsiveness from Moon at OWL charging was incredible. If I got service half as good from the companies I do business with in the US I would be amazed, and these folks are having to deal with me from the other side of the world. I have absolutely no ties with their company, and hadn't even spoken to them to ask if the charger worked for my phone before I ordered, but they went above and beyond any expectations in getting this charger working.
Once I have a few hours charging I can fill in the remaining details (temperatures, approximate charge time, etc), but right now I would say the newest version is a huge success!
-Ben
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awesome! thanks for the feedback and being a Guinea pig for us all... i really appreciate it. so to make sure, you are now using the carpad/N2 right? if so, i'm gunna go ahead and place my order.
Thanks again
bmyton said:
I forgot to mention, the +300 mah charging rate was with the screen locked on, LTE, GPS, Navigation, and Pandora all running.
Ben
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Thanks! Placed my order. I'm willing to give it a shot at this point!
Dear Big Phone Niche Market Like Minded Friends,
I have had my Ultra for about a week now. I love it! With non-removable battery, I have formed a habit of plugging in my phone wherever possible...at my office, at home, first thing I do when I enter my car. If I keep a count, it would be like more than 20 times per day. Each time, removing and reinserting the USB cap.
My concern is whether that USB cap is going to fall off soon? Anyone know how sturdy or resilience that little string that connect the cap to the phone?
That string seems to be such 20th century solution, no?
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Buy a magnetic charging cable or dock
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Simply amazing elegant solution. Thank you!
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Buy a magnetic charging cable or dock
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Yup, magnets is the way to go! I have only opened the flaps once or twice since I got it. I use AirDroid to transfer files to and from my computer.
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Dear Big Phone Niche Market Like Minded Friends,
I have had my Ultra for about a week now. I love it! With non-removable battery, I have formed a habit of plugging in my phone wherever possible...at my office, at home, first thing I do when I enter my car. If I keep a count, it would be like more than 20 times per day. Each time, removing and reinserting the USB cap.
My concern is whether that USB cap is going to fall off soon? Anyone know how sturdy or resilience that little string that connect the cap to the phone?
That string seems to be such 20th century solution, no?
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You should check your phone. Charging 20 times per day is insane. The phone should get you at least 4 hours of screen time. Assuming you don't do anything else but use your phone since you love it so much, you should only be charging a maximum of 4 times a day assuming charging takes 2hours since your using the phone at the same time. 20 times a day means your phone is probably always plugged in already.
I suggest having it exchanged.
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How do you use the charging dock in the car? LOL
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Oh no, there's nothing wrong with the phone battery.
I just have a habit of pluging in my phone when ever possible to keep it as much charged as possible.
Just in case, I'm stuck in a broken elevator for hours, I can play Candy Crush longer.
I didn't have this habit with any one my previous battery removable phones.....it just all started with the HTC One (non-removable battery)
aaronqui said:
You should check your phone. Charging 20 times per day is insane. The phone should get you at least 4 hours of screen time. Assuming you don't do anything else but use your phone since you love it so much, you should only be charging a maximum of 4 times a day assuming charging takes 2hours since your using the phone at the same time. 20 times a day means your phone is probably always plugged in already.
I suggest having it exchanged.
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Just ordered to USB magnetic charging cable via Amazon. Will get them soon, and report back. It would have been cool if Sony included these.
Like I mentioned before, all the engineers were probably assigned to the PlayStation 4 group, and left only one lonely part time summer intern to the Ultra LOL
mozzy said:
Buy a magnetic charging cable or dock
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I could not resist
hi there do you have the link to the Amazon item?
jeremy.chan said:
hi there do you have the link to the Amazon item?
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Amazon
Amazon Cable only
It only cost HK$50 (US$6.4) to replace the cap here in Hong Kong's Sony repair centre, so its pretty in-expensive.
this is why I bought the charging station before the cellphone itself !!!
If you lost your USB or Micro Sd card cap cover you can buy the same also from the below link....May be this is useful
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-Cap-M...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item233055a6ce
cheaper magnetic dock from amazon here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464956
I got my magnetic cable today. It's a perfect solution. Thank you for suggesting it.
Out of curiosity, what would happen if I charge the phone simultaneously using both the magnetic connector and the micro USB?
(a) The phone would implode, vaporize, and generate a wormhole causing a temporal shift
(b) The phone will be charged up faster
(c) The phone will be charged up at regular rate
Thanks in advance.
knite75 said:
I got my magnetic cable today. It's a perfect solution. Thank you for suggesting it.
Out of curiosity, what would happen if I charge the phone simultaneously using both the magnetic connector and the micro USB?
(a) The phone would implode, vaporize, and generate a wormhole causing a temporal shift
(b) The phone will be charged up faster
(c) The phone will be charged up at regular rate
Thanks in advance.
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Astrophysicist here. The correct answer is A.
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I knew it! Definitely staying clear of this.
LordManhattan said:
Astrophysicist here. The correct answer is A.
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Alright, i lied. I have no idea what'll happen The question now is; do you dare?
You know what? I'm gonna pass on this one. I'll let CERN physics lab have a crack at spawning the wormhole first.
LordManhattan said:
Alright, i lied. I have no idea what'll happen The question now is; do you dare?
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Hi folks,
I bought a used SG2 for a friend recently but it’s having some issues…
As soon as the phone arrived I plugged into the PC and rooted it, along with flashing latest stock firmware.
That all went smoothly but as I was setting up Google etc I noticed it gets really hot both when charging and also when in use. It also discharges really quickly, even with all sync and data connections turned off. I’d read about stock JB not being the best so decided to install Resurrection Remix, however was still running hot and discharging far too quickly (also tried with no SD card, just to make sure it wasn’t a Media Scanner issue).
It also drains whilst charging too. For example, last night it got to 92% whilst powered off, then when I checked later it was at 88%... so I unplugged it before bed when I woke up it was completely dead. Now it doesn’t seem to charge at all. This is on original battery and a brand new one…. both won’t charge. I’ve tried different chargers, different cables, different USB sockets etc etc. Also tried leaving the battery out of a while, but all to no avail.
I have just ordered a new USB port from eBay, to see if there is there is a problem charging… but beyond that I guess I still need to figure out why it’s heating up so much evenw hen doing nothing. When it was still powering on, checking CPU Spy tells me it’s not running at max CPU or anything, and Wakelock Detector isn’t reporting anything abnormal.
The phone is currently plugged into my PC but I know it's not charging as it's cool to touch and pressing the power button doesn't display the battery icon.
We have another S2 in the family (rooted and running an old JB NeatROM) and whilst battery life isn’t the best, it can easily last most of the day on standby. It also doesn’t get hot like this one does.
Any ideas what might be causing the problem and how to fix it?
Cheers,
Lee
Take the charged battery from the other s2 in the house and put it in. Does it power up? Go into download mode? Recovery?
andrewwright said:
Take the charged battery from the other s2 in the house and put it in. Does it power up? Go into download mode? Recovery?
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Thanks for the the suggestion.
I don't have the other S2 to hand unfortunately, plus as that one is working fine I wouldn't want to risk damaging it's battery in this faulty unit.
I've ordered an external battery charger too though, which should be here Friday.
The ext charger won't go to waste but I'd try the battery first as I don't think it will damage it. Terminal's look OK? Testing should be fine.
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The ext charger won't go to waste but I'd try the battery first as I don't think it will damage it. Terminal's look OK? Testing should be fine.
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I'll probably get the ext charger before I have access to the other S2
The terminals look ok, nice and clean... and the USB socket looks a little grubby but no more so than my other phones.
Let's say for a moment that I do manage to get the batteries charged and the phone to power on again... do you have any idea what might be causing it to heat up so much? I did try setting governor to Conservative and set the max CPU to 1000MHz rather than 1200MHz, but it was still getting hot and draining quickly. Again, this is with nothing running in the background, no SD card and all 3G/Wifi etc turned off.
Thanks
Get it running and install BBS . better battery States. See from there what's running in the background.
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Get it running and install BBS . better battery States. See from there what's running in the background.
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Yeah mate, BBS is one of my "first install" apps along with Wakelock Detector, CPU Spy, Root Explorer and Titanium Backup
Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to install it on this S2 before the problems started to appear.
Will report back once ext charger / new USB port arrives
I'm determined not to waste 60 quid on this thing, even if I have to spend a bit more to get it working!
Given that you've tried different firmware and ROMs I think you can rule out software issues. I *think* you're going down the right path by replacing the USB socket/board assembly...... Just make sure you're putting the correct version in......there are 4 non interchangeable versions of this part.....
My wife says I'm a phone geek....She's probably right
keithross39 said:
Given that you've tried different firmware and ROMs I think you can rule out software issues. I *think* you're going down the right path by replacing the USB socket/board assembly...... Just make sure you're putting the correct version in......there are 4 non interchangeable versions of this part.....
My wife says I'm a phone geek....She's probably right
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Thanks bud, hopefully I got the right one!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400684001792?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Well.....that *looks* right, but then all the versions of the board *look* the same..... It's the 'rev' number on the board you have to watch for.....
See this guide I created.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2335961
it'll show how to tell the boards apart......
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Well.....that *looks* right, but then all the versions of the board *look* the same..... It's the 'rev' number on the board you have to watch for.....
See this guide I created.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2335961
it'll show how to tell the boards apart......
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Thanks again Keith, that is an excellent guide! Very informative.
The one pictured on eBay has GT-I9100 REV 2.2 R.B54 B on the board and looking at some other eBay and Amazon items, most appear to be selling Rev2.2 boards.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0098VPOK8/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_8Hjotb1JF0Q2Z
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generic-Con...400688905&sr=1-3&keywords=i9100+charging+port
Here’s a Rev 1.5 though…
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Connector-C...400688905&sr=1-9&keywords=i9100+charging+port
..and a Rev 0.2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vktech-Char...00688905&sr=1-21&keywords=i9100+charging+port
I notice some of the Rev2.2 boards have different alphanumeric numbers below the rev (like R.B54 on the one I bought), does that make a difference too?
Knowing my luck this model will have a Rev that no one sells! I’ll check tonight after work, so fingers crossed for a Rev2.2!
Cheers
I'm not entirely sure what the other numbers are.....my guess is they're probably batch numbers or something similar......
The important numbers to match are the "rev version" numbers.....
In my experience (having repaired this issue on 2 S2s) the rev2.3 is the most commonly used version....but hey....you might be lucky....
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I'm not entirely sure what the other numbers are.....my guess is they're probably batch numbers or something similar......
The important numbers to match are the "rev version" numbers.....
In my experience (having repaired this issue on 2 S2s) the rev2.3 is the most commonly used version....but hey....you might be lucky....
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Well Sod's Law strikes, I have a Rev 2.3
I've messaged the seller to see if they have them, but have also ordered another from a different seller just in case.
Ah...bad luck fella.....it might have worked if you'd ordered a 2.4 to replace a 2.3.....newer designs *might possibly* have some backwards compatibility.... but I strongly doubt that older versions are forwards compatible.
And don't listen if the seller tries to tell you that the rev version doesn't matter.....most sellers aren't aware that there is more than one version of the board, and will probably base their reply on that incorrect information.......
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Replaced the circuit last night, was really easy. The phones are like Lego compared to HTC!
After rebuilding the phone it did initially recognise the charger, and started to charge the battery however after a while I noticed it had depleted again (charging whilst off). Charging was also extremely slow. It also wouldn't charge properly when switched on... would go up then down again.
The ext. charger also arrived so I've just popped in a fully charged battery to see how it lasts (took forever to charge that too!). Hopefully wont get hot and drain rapidly like before but we'll see.
I'll report back later, but at the moment I'm thinking about cutting my losses and selling it for spares or repair :crying:
The plug on the end of the charger *might* be worn too....this will also cause poor connection during charging......the whole micro USB plug/socket arrangement is (IMO) pathetically fragile for what these manufacturers want it to do......
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The plug on the end of the charger *might* be worn too....this will also cause poor connection during charging......the whole micro USB plug/socket arrangement is (IMO) pathetically fragile for what these manufacturers want it to do......
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Between home and work I have HTC, Samsung, LG and Sennheiser micro-USB cables, mostly new too... so probably safe to rule that out.
The phone has now been on battery for 4hrs 20min, and has only lost 8% battery in stand-by (WiFi on for the last hour or so too), so that's a step in the right direction! Temps seem normal as well.
Also, remember the Rev 2.2 I accidentally ordered before realising that variants existed? Well it turned up this afternoon and it's actually a Rev 2.4! Only difference I can see if the rubber thing is missing from the mic. Might give it a try later.
Thanks again for the help Keith!
No problems fella......
Putting the rev2.4 in shouldn't hurt.... as I said, I *think* there is backwards compatibility....
If that doesn't help, try going back to stock JB again. But this time root and debloat it. That is what I am running at the moment, and this is what I get from a full charge.....
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If that doesn't help.....have you thought of flashing a CM ROM?...the most recent one I tried was Markox89's linaro/sabermod CM11.....good on battery and pretty much bug free.....
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Cheers Keith, that's impressive stats!
Well the phone seems to have somehow fixed itself! Not only did the battery keep going all night, it allowed me to connect to the PC and transfer files, and also charged from the PC whilst the phone was powered on. Tested with the wallcharger and all seemed normal too. Maybe the batteries just needed the boost from the ext. charger to get them going since they were both completely drained?
I flashed Wanam JB but wasn't really keen on the super stock look and feel so then flashed NeatROM JB which is much better.
My friend actually decided he wants to keep his crappy old brick phone but at least now I can sell the S2 in good faith knowing that it works
I'd be tempted to keep it as a backup....I still have my first smartphone (galaxy W) safely stored away for just that purpose.
And from my point of view....I personally would be loathed to part with something that I'd invested time, effort and money into to bring back to life.....I know at the end of the day it's just a piece of tech and an asset, but for me, if I'd done what you've done....it'd be (I dunno) more personal than that......
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