I've never actually tried to use an MHL cable for my phones before, so I was wondering if this would be compatible for my N3: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ATDA8C8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1AMUYYA3CT6HJ
Doesn't list N3 as one of the compatible devices but I figured that the N3 was backwards compatible with a micro usb, it shouldn't be a problem.
Does anyone know? And do I just plug it in and I'm good to go?
I use one off eBay that cost £3 that I used for my HTC One but it has a power source as well
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CalvinL said:
I've never actually tried to use an MHL cable for my phones before, so I was wondering if this would be compatible for my N3: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ATDA8C8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1AMUYYA3CT6HJ
Doesn't list N3 as one of the compatible devices but I figured that the N3 was backwards compatible with a micro usb, it shouldn't be a problem.
Does anyone know? And do I just plug it in and I'm good to go?
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Hi Calvin,
This one can not compatible with Note 3 for the Micro USB port of is different from the Micro USB port of Note 2/S4/S4.
The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 comes with USB 3.0 port.
Yes it will work with the Note 3. As long as it's an 11 pin adapter it'll work. The difference lies between mhl 1.0 and mhl 2.0. Mhl 1.0 requires you being plugged into a power source, 2.0 doesn't. Having usb 3.0 on our phones makes no difference. It's no different than being able to use a standard micro usb to charge our phones.
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my mhl 1 adapter not working
I have an MHL 1 adapter and it isn't working on my note 3. it is powered and I plug into my hdmi port on my monitor and nothing. I don't see a setting to enable so I suspect it supposed to happen automatically.
I bought this one.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1001326-REG/kanex_s3hdtv_mhl_2_0_to_hdtv.html
The plug fits both note 3 and note 8.0. I will test it later today.
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Yes it will work with the Note 3. As long as it's an 11 pin adapter it'll work. The difference lies between mhl 1.0 and mhl 2.0. Mhl 1.0 requires you being plugged into a power source, 2.0 doesn't. Having usb 3.0 on our phones makes no difference. It's no different than being able to use a standard micro usb to charge our phones.
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I have a samsung MHL 1.0 adapter on my s4 and note 3 and i dont need a power source to run it
Solematrix said:
I have a samsung MHL 1.0 adapter on my s4 and note 3 and i dont need a power source to run it
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Then it's MHL 2.0. Google it. You have to have a power source prior to.
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Yes it will work with the Note 3. As long as it's an 11 pin adapter it'll work. The difference lies between mhl 1.0 and mhl 2.0. Mhl 1.0 requires you being plugged into a power source, 2.0 doesn't. Having usb 3.0 on our phones makes no difference. It's no different than being able to use a standard micro usb to charge our phones.
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How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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Then it's MHL 2.0. Google it. You have to have a power source prior to.
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Nope, not true. I have an old Samsung MHL 1.0 adapter that I use with the 5 to 11 pin adapter and the Note 3 powers it fine all on it's own. I also have the MHL 2.0 adapter from Samsung and that doesn't require the adapter but does NOT work if plugged into an AV Receiver (even when plugged into a dedicated MHL port). The MHL 1.0 adapter worked fine plugged into the AV Receiver but when I plug in the MHL 2.0 cable it pops up a message saying 'Plug HDMI cable directly into TV'. I even tried it with a Redmere (active) HDMI cable to see if that would fool it but it didn't.
It does work when plugged into the TV but I get no audio since the AV Receiver provides audio and the TV is HDMI 1.3 so no audio return.
On a side note the MHL connector (Yamaha RX-A1030) does not provide charging power (or any power at all) despite Yamaha's extensive marketing of the benefits of MHL (vs a plain old HDMI input). With an external power source connected to the MHL 2.0 cable I see 700mA charging current (vs 1200 if I plug the cable directly into the Note 3).
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Nope, not true. I have an old Samsung MHL 1.0 adapter that I use with the 5 to 11 pin adapter and the Note 3 powers it fine all on it's own. I also have the MHL 2.0 adapter from Samsung and that doesn't require the adapter but does NOT work if plugged into an AV Receiver (even when plugged into a dedicated MHL port). The MHL 1.0 adapter worked fine plugged into the AV Receiver but when I plug in the MHL 2.0 cable it pops up a message saying 'Plug HDMI cable directly into TV'. I even tried it with a Redmere (active) HDMI cable to see if that would fool it but it didn't.
It does work when plugged into the TV but I get no audio since the AV Receiver provides audio and the TV is HDMI 1.3 so no audio return.
On a side note the MHL connector (Yamaha RX-A1030) does not provide charging power (or any power at all) despite Yamaha's extensive marketing of the benefits of MHL (vs a plain old HDMI input). With an external power source connected to the MHL 2.0 cable I see 700mA charging current (vs 1200 if I plug the cable directly into the Note 3).
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I stand corrected. I knew there was only a few phones capable without external power but haven't had a chance to test on the Note 3. I was under the impression from what I've read that it had to be mhl 2.0 adapter not just the phone. I have a HTC One and my trusty old 5 pin, I sold my 11 pin a long time ago with my S3. I'm waiting on my 11 pin mhl 2.0 to get here now.
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How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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Search for an 11 pin specifically or a 5 pin with 11 pin adapter. Here is a link to one on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CTK0TSW/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_Fccxsb1RNZGE8
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How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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Look at the bottom (hook) side of the plug.
11 pin has a groove on the middle.
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I stand corrected. I knew there was only a few phones capable without external power but haven't had a chance to test on the Note 3. I was under the impression from what I've read that it had to be mhl 2.0 adapter not just the phone. I have a HTC One and my trusty old 5 pin, I sold my 11 pin a long time ago with my S3. I'm waiting on my 11 pin mhl 2.0 to get here now.
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Search for an 11 pin specifically or a 5 pin with 11 pin adapter. Here is a link to one on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CTK0TSW/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_Fccxsb1RNZGE8
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It's out of stock atm. I'm trying to look for one without a power source and is compatible with S3/N2, which I'm guessing should be all of them since they both use an 11-pin.
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Then the one I linked should work fine despite aaa111sss said about it, right?
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Yeah he's thinking that it has to be the same connector as the usb 3.0. It doesn't. Standard micro usb plugs up to our phones. We just don't get the benefits of 3.0 with them. The biggest factor in usb 3.0 is the data transfer rates and I'm guessing charging rate although I'm unsure about the charging thing.
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How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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The (official Samsung ) MHL adapter of the sgs3 and note2 work great on the note 3
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Yeah he's thinking that it has to be the same connector as the usb 3.0. It doesn't. Standard micro usb plugs up to our phones. We just don't get the benefits of 3.0 with them. The biggest factor in usb 3.0 is the data transfer rates and I'm guessing charging rate although I'm unsure about the charging thing.
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I just realized it requires a power source, which I'm not interested in. Don't really want any more than one chord connecting directly to my TV if possible. There's a few adapters that are cheaper for around $10, so I'm trying to looking for one without a power source and is compatible with S3/N2 (which I'm guessing is all of them since they both use 11-pin). Is it unreasonable to get one for around $15-18?
This is what I searched: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p...l+hdmi&ie=UTF8&qid=1381784572&rnid=2470954011
Unless I missed something, they all seem to need a power source.
According to CraigAmey they will work without a power source but if you're questioning it look specifically for mhl 2.0 11 pin. I know for a fact mhl 2.0 adaptors don't require it. I'm working but when I get the chance I'll post the link for one I found earlier.
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I did talk to Samsung advanced tech support about the MHL 2.0 adapter not working when plugged into a receiver. In short what he said was they never wanted it to work but the MHL 2.0 is the first one that can tell what it's plugged into, and therefore lock you out of using anything other than a TV or monitor. So all of those companies putting MHL inputs on their receivers (Yamaha, Pioneer) may as well not bother because Samsung are explicitly locking their latest devices to not support them.
Also while I've verified that the Note 3 can be used with either MHL 1.0 or 2.0 adapters without external power it does drain the battery pretty fast when you hook this up so if you're planning on watching a long movie you might want to connect power anyway. I haven't had a chance to test if any of the OTG peripherals work with the MHL 2.0 adapter yet either, that's next.
CraigAmey said:
I did talk to Samsung advanced tech support about the MHL 2.0 adapter not working when plugged into a receiver. In short what he said was they never wanted it to work but the MHL 2.0 is the first one that can tell what it's plugged into, and therefore lock you out of using anything other than a TV or monitor. So all of those companies putting MHL inputs on their receivers (Yamaha, Pioneer) may as well not bother because Samsung are explicitly locking their latest devices to not support them.
Also while I've verified that the Note 3 can be used with either MHL 1.0 or 2.0 adapters without external power it does drain the battery pretty fast when you hook this up so if you're planning on watching a long movie you might want to connect power anyway. I haven't had a chance to test if any of the OTG peripherals work with the MHL 2.0 adapter yet either, that's next.
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That's a good point. Thanks.
After looking through some more on Amazon, I'm thinking my original linked cable should work fine, but I'm not sure which one I should get: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...id=1381792525&sr=1-4&keywords=galaxy+mhl+hdmi
I can't seem to tell the difference between the three options. Also, after searching for a few of these on amazon, I'm worried that it won't actually charge the phone while in use. I'm getting conflicting reports according to the reviews over whether or not it charges the phone. I want to use this occasionally, but mainly for my mother to watch some of the shows she has on her phone, so it's quite important that it charges.
All share cast dongle is the way to go.
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Did anyone receive the HDMI adapter in the box for the AT&T Galaxy S II ? I read that it should be included but did not receive it.
Nope. Not in the AT&T box
10 char xxxx
Nope. It doesn't come with AT&T version. AT&T version, all you get is the phone, battery, ac charger, usb cable, $25 media hub (tv shows only), manuals.
The infuse comes with one. The galaxy doesn't included one.
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So a MiniUSB (or microUSB, whatever is ours) --> HDMI cable works from the phone?
only if your tv has MHL built into it
boondoc said:
only if your tv has MHL built into it
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curoius, do most newer tv's have MHL built in? or probably not?
all i can find when i type my tv's model number and MHL into google is.. my tv with some hockey info (NHL) hehe..
google is too smart for its own good sometimes.
Based upon what I've seen, you need a MHL adapter for the phone. Its just a little box that plugs into USB, and had a USB port on it for power input and an HDMI port. There's cheap out there, like this one.
I have an MHL adapter and it does work but you need to plug the power into the thing in order for it to do anything. My receiver has usb and hdmi on the front so that works for me. It would be nice to have 1 cable, but this works.
Unfortunately I believe that's the case with any MHL device. There's a chip inside that box that transcribes the MHL signal (coming over the 5 pin USB connector) to a full HDMI signal, and it requires power. It's not all that bad though, as you would probably want to be charging your phone while playing a video anyways.
Exactly it is nice it does have power. Unlike the ipad to vga dongle lol.
Eventually most of the high end TVs will have the MHL. You will still need the adapter but you will not need to power it. The TV will not only power your phone but charge it.
I pocketed the HDMI MHL adapter from my infuse when I returned it under the 30 day ATT trial... The screen was pixelated in my infuse in the top left hand corner so they were more concerned with my device being defective than me just not liking it and only asked me if the charger was in the box.
Honestly, who actually hooks their phone to their tv? I never have.
yeahmon said:
Honestly, who actually hooks their phone to their tv? I never have.
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The treadmills at my gym have lcd 's on them, I hook up my phone to it every single day and watch videos while exercising.
I wonder if anyone can report on this:
dealextreme.com/p/mini-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-2-pack-50944
USB->HDMI adapter for SGS2?
I'm inclined to give it try...
The above link is for connecting a USB device, such as a thumb drive or keyboard to a mini USB device. Useful for us? yes. Useful for hdmi output? No.
I recently purchased a "ikross USB to HDMI" adapter on amazon, supposedly supported by the HTC Amaze. However, when i plug the adapter in connected to my TV(s), nothing happens on the phone or tv.
Im guessing I need some kind of 'drivers' on the phone to enable this feature.
Also, my problem might be stemming from the fact that i am running Beastmod v2.2.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for these adapters?
Thanks
I don't believe you purchased the rite thing, I was reading and interested in running hdmi from my amaze, I have read most places you need to purchase an MHL converter, that's why the plug on the phone is the funny square shape
raiden9250 said:
I don't believe you purchased the rite thing, I was reading and interested in running hdmi from my amaze, I have read most places you need to purchase an MHL converter, that's why the plug on the phone is the funny square shape
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Mhl uses micro USB, so you don't need a special port on the adapter.
My guess for op is that it might be the ROM. I use bullet proof, and my Mhl to hdmi adapter works fine.
Final, try making a backup of your current ROM, flash a ROM with sense, and try again.
Edit: Also, this should be in accessories
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Huh I figured cause if you look in the port beyond the USB there are other pins I figured it requires a special plug to reach those pins
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Huh I figured cause if you look in the port beyond the USB there are other pins I figured it requires a special plug to reach those pins
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The port on the Amaze is a proprietary HTC design, called EXTUSB. It allows the device to get more power while charging, but it is also backwards compatible with microusb cables.
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I don't believe you purchased the rite thing, I was reading and interested in running hdmi from my amaze, I have read most places you need to purchase an MHL converter, that's why the plug on the phone is the funny square shape
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I got one of those, and it works IF you also plug a USB charging cable separately into the adapter - thanks for the stupid design HTC.
In order to do the hdmi out can you use a miniusb or does the adapter have to have the extusb?
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Also if I am reading this right you need a TV with the MHL chip in it for this to work:
Sorry I'm not allowed to post links yet...
gigaom.com/video/htc-mhl-usb-hdmi/
Wouldnt a standard micro HDMI to HDMI cable work? I typically use a standard micro usb cable to plug into my work computer without issue
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Wouldnt a standard micro HDMI to HDMI cable work? I typically use a standard micro usb cable to plug into my work computer without issue
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I'm confused, where are you plugging it into on the phone? Does microhdmi fit in the extusb port?
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The port on the Amaze is a proprietary HTC design, called EXTUSB. It allows the device to get more power while charging, but it is also backwards compatible with microusb cables.
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Wouldnt a standard micro HDMI to HDMI cable work? I typically use a standard micro usb cable to plug into my work computer without issue
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I'm confused, where are you plugging it into on the phone? Does microhdmi fit in the extusb port?
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All wrong. A simple Google will show you that EXTUSB was the port HTC used in the days of the T-Mo Wing, G1, and myTouch 3G.
The miniHDMI connector does NOT fit the Amaze. I wish I knew what our port was called... I'll report in if I can find it. But I know it's not EXTUSB
I recently bought Cable Matters Micro USB to HDMI MHL Adapter from Amazon. I have had success using it on stock phone, quicksense v3.0.0 and currently beastmod 2.3.0.
Just to set the record clear. The port on the Amaze 4G is called an MHL connector. It's not a proprietary HTC port, but a seemingly new industry standard. Just search wikipedia for MHL and you can read all about it.
Punchline is that you get a single port that can output HDMI and connect via USB in one go. Supposedly with the proper adapter your phone will charge while connected to an HDMI source. You can definitely use a standard micro USB cable on the MHL port if you just need to charge or connect to a computer via USB.
The one I bought, the power cable must be attached.
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The one I bought, the power cable must be attached.
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That's what Mr. Moo is getting at. MHL ports allows simultaneous output and charging; though I'm not sure they both need to be connected for either to work.
In my experience, the MHL with power connected doesn't really charge the phone. My battery still drains slowly while connected. Is that just me?
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In my experience, the MHL with power connected doesn't really charge the phone. My battery still drains slowly while connected. Is that just me?
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Happens to me too
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HTC calls the port ExtMicro USB. It's backwards compatible with Micro-USB plugs (the five leads on the flange you see on the front), but the proprietary plug has 12 pins total.
I was getting intermittent performance with a Micro-USB MHL-HDMI adapter, and had to have a Micro-USB charger attached.
The HTC adapter for the Amaze (and Flyer, and Rezound) is AC-M500, a 12-pin adapter with HDMI-out, Audio-out (3.5mm) and an ExtMicro USB port. I have pics of these on WikiMedia, and in a thread in the Rezound section.
I wish I could tell you what the 7 additional leads do that a conventional MHL-HDMI adapter doesn't ... and HTC isn't talking. (US Tech Support couldn't even confirm the that the port is different, only the recommended adapter.) aLogCat recorded some HDCP messages when I connected the phone with this adapter to a Dell ST2410 24" monitor that's been reported for not supporting HDCP-controlled HDMI video. When I connected my Amaze to a Samsung T27A300 1080P HDTV, it worked fine.
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finaldark said:
I recently purchased a "ikross USB to HDMI" adapter on amazon, supposedly supported by the HTC Amaze. However, when i plug the adapter in connected to my TV(s), nothing happens on the phone or tv.
Im guessing I need some kind of 'drivers' on the phone to enable this feature.
Also, my problem might be stemming from the fact that i am running Beastmod v2.2.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for these adapters?
Thanks
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I have same trouble last week. I bought a "usb to hdmi adapter" from Amazon as a cheap price last month. But it can't work. So last week , i got a new hdmi adapter from Hdgenius .Finally it is OK and can work normally. So maybe you can learn from me and get another new hdmi adapter to have a test.
If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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According to some of wikipedia entries it should be possible to use mhl and usb otg at the same time with a 11-pin mhl-hdmi adapter.
Wikipedia said:
11-pin MHL-USB Connector
The Samsung Galaxy S III uses a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-USB connector, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously (note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB-OTG port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III can power the MHL-HDMI adapter. Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
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Here you go.
So, it should work. But I couldnt make it work at the moment
I also got one of these 11-pin connectors and like it seems only the S3 has these adapters, so why the **** doesnt it work?? :/
I already asked sammy on facebook, just wondering what they will answer^^
Hopefully we will have some pos. results, dude.
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If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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How would that work since the micro USB connection on the mhl cable is for power / charger?
In those YouTube videos is it possible that they have the mhl cable connected to the TV and power source, and the keyboard and mouse connected wirelessly via Bluetooth?
Confused because you said USB Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. From what I know they aren't USB.
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Samsung should eventually release a dock to use both so unless someone figures it out first you'll just have to wait, because if it just took an 11 pin USB cable someone would have got it working already and we'd know about it, so I reckon it might have some extra circuitry to make it recognised by the phone.
Guys, as I already posted, the connector has 11 pins, so it should be possible to use OTG and MHL features at the same time. thats the only reason sammy brought out this connector and also cause of incompability with the 5-pin connector.
So they should bring the f*ck out somethin for the phone that activates this feature.
And a big problem I have with my mhl-connector is that I cant configure the output
on my 2 TVs at home I get 1080i, (both only 1080i capable), but the picture is kinda oversized so I cant see 100% percent of the picture, only 90% or smt like this.
But the funny part is, that I get on my 1680x1050p PC monitor only 576p screen, what actually sucks So it would be awesome if I could choose the resolution I want to have. But I guess its a thing of the connector (maybe it choose the resolutions iself).
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so the one in the videos using keyboard and mouse are bluetooth thru phone?
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I am SO HARD waiting for THAT "DOCK" hopefully will came out any day soon.
They should do iut fast. I'm waiting so hard for everything get connected with my Phone. It will be awsome if I don't need my Pc anymore.
To use the MHL cable you must have power connected to the adapter.
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If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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That's damn funny because I have wanted to know whether that would work as well, lol.
Did seriously consider trying but as I was on holiday if they broke, I wouldn't be able to get replacement so didn't try it.
In theory I would think it could work, but only if you could somehow wire in power to the hdmi adapter as it appears to need that to run the hdmi aswell as provide power to the phone, at least enough that once the usb adapter tries to demand power to run it isn't enough for the phone to output.
As to whether this is just a a stupid guess and assumption of how the devices and being a noob, I don't know.
If you can get a micro female to male adapter with a usb splitter for power then technically I can't see why it wouldn't work if the limitations are physical as oppose to software based (whole other issue I have no clue about).
EDIT: Wow, when I started that post no one had replied, err, seems a little redundant now, lol. My bad. Also, this 5 minute wait to point this out, have seemed really long...
guess we'll have to wait for that dock.
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I was under the impression that Note 3 supported MHL 2.0 but when I plug in the official HDTV adapter from Samsung (model number ET-H10FAUWEGWW) I still need to also use a USB charger to get it to show through the HDMI input on my TV?
If I don't I get a continual on-screen message on the phone "HDMI cable connected/disconnected" flashing/cycling until I plug-in the Micro USB charger cable on the side of the HDTV adapter.
Any thoughts appreciated
Your TV would have to have the MHL adapter which would mean you would have had to buy it most likely this year. If you are just plugging it into a regular HDMI slot there is not power available this is why you need to hook up the adapter.
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Your TV would have to have the MHL adapter which would mean you would have had to buy it most likely this year. If you are just plugging it into a regular HDMI slot there is not power available this is why you need to hook up the adapter.
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Thanks, didn't see that anywhere in the small print or YouTube reviews. Looks like I need a new tv, lol.
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I was under the impression that Note 3 supported MHL 2.0 but when I plug in the official HDTV adapter from Samsung (model number ET-H10FAUWEGWW) I still need to also use a USB charger to get it to show through the HDMI input on my TV?
If I don't I get a continual on-screen message on the phone "HDMI cable connected/disconnected" flashing/cycling until I plug-in the Micro USB charger cable on the side of the HDTV adapter.
Any thoughts appreciated
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
optical10 said:
Thanks, didn't see that anywhere in the small print or YouTube reviews. Looks like I need a new tv, lol.
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You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
babyshanks said:
I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
toddnbrown said:
Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA
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Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
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Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Micr...e=UTF8&qid=1384305065&sr=8-4&keywords=mhl+2.0
Fair warning though; this adapter is not perfect by any means, you can read my review on amazon (the one that tested it out on the note 3). As noted in my review, I am still waiting on a replacement one (since the original one I got functioned but didn't charge when I hooked up my power adapter), and I'll let you guys know if it's better once I receive it. Even though it doesn't function perfectly, for $10 dollars it does the trick.
Edit: They are sending me an extra without having to return the original, so even if the second one doesn't charge, at $5 a pop I'm happy.
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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Thanks for alerting me to the counterfeit reasoning that shows this part must be a copycat, I contacted the supplier of this part to us for a partial refund as I will use this as a backup and try and buy an original and prices drop from the £39 or take advice of the other replies in this thread and find a genuine 2.0 MHL non-Samsung version. I'll report back if I have any trouble with the supplier claiming that it is a genuine part and see how far eBay support me.
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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CraigAmey said:
You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
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Thanks babyshanks and CraigAmey for clarifying and also confirming that I don't need it new TV to take advantage of MHL 2.0's not requirement for external USB power. As I said in my previous reply and with this information and going back to the supplier on eBay to us for a partial refund as I will keep this version of the adapter until prices come down from the genuine parts for fine art genuine MHL 2.0 adapter non-Samsung version.
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You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
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I've read that you need to plug into a TV but haven't had problems. But I am using a samsung mhl 1.0 with 11pin adapter. Didn't need power also. Waiting for Samsung to get on the ball so I can buy a genuine mhl 2 from them.
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I bought the Samsung one before it went out of stock and it works in any HDMI input also without the need to plug it to the power outlet, but I'm sure a full HD movie will drain the battery fast..
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I think for the price of the official one your better off just getting a wireless dongle, unless you plan to game with it.
Hi guys, here's the response from the eBay seller, "These items were purchased From Kondor Ltd who are one of the major UK Distributors of Samsung Accessories. I would be extremely surprised if they sold fake stock and risked losing there multi-million contract with Samsung over some cheap fake stock. I can only assume the item received has a manufacturing fault of some sort as this is the first problem we have encountered for this product sorry.", so as you can imagine I'm beginning to think there my be a fault with my phone if this message is to be believed, what do you guys think?
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I've read that you need to plug into a TV but haven't had problems. But I am using a samsung mhl 1.0 with 11pin adapter. Didn't need power also. Waiting for Samsung to get on the ball so I can buy a genuine mhl 2 from them.
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The MHL 1.0 adapter doesn't care what it's plugged into, only the MHL 2.0 adapter has that issue.
I just bought a mhl cable through amazon. It has the USB connector for the phone on one side, and a HDMI connector on the other. Directly attached to the HDMI connector is a regular USB plug which I plugged into my power source for my phone (as this is how I understood it should work).
I don't get any messages on my phone that indicate that it is connected to my TV/Monitor and my phone also doesn't indicate that it's charging.
What I read from the product description was, that connecting this cable to my power source would also charge the phone. So could it be my phone is charging, even if the battery indicator doesn't say so? Like it would be charging just so much as that my phone doesn't drain? Or should it clearly indicate that the battery gets charged. Befor knowing this, I'm hestitant to send the cable back as defective.
Can any one advise?
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I just bought a mhl cable through amazon. It has the USB connector for the phone on one side, and a HDMI connector on the other. Directly attached to the HDMI connector is a regular USB plug which I plugged into my power source for my phone (as this is how I understood it should work).
I don't get any messages on my phone that indicate that it is connected to my TV/Monitor and my phone also doesn't indicate that it's charging.
What I read from the product description was, that connecting this cable to my power source would also charge the phone. So could it be my phone is charging, even if the battery indicator doesn't say so? Like it would be charging just so much as that my phone doesn't drain? Or should it clearly indicate that the battery gets charged. Befor knowing this, I'm hestitant to send the cable back as defective.
Can any one advise?
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The phone should indicate it is charging as it normally would.
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The phone should indicate it is charging as it normally would.
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Thanks. I really appreciate your straight answer
I'll be sending the cable back. I wouldn't bother too much if it wouldn't supply the full resolution and such, but I'd at least would expect some output on my TV.
Mikegrmn said:
Thanks. I really appreciate your straight answer
I'll be sending the cable back. I wouldn't bother too much if it wouldn't supply the full resolution and such, but I'd at least would expect some output on my TV.
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You're welcome.
I love using MHL, but I really wish there weren't several varieties of MHL cables (5-pin, 11-pin, 1.0 and 2.0) and also such a large number of fakes and very low quality ones out there. Makes buying difficult, as all these threads about MHL demonstrate.
Does anyone know if you can physical see whether you have a 5 pin or 11 pin MHL 2.0?
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I just bought a monitor with MHL. This came with an MHL lead Micro usb > HDMI plug so eager to try it I got nothing on the Note 3.
Testing this with my HTC Sensation the lead alone worked perfectly so I did a bit of research and figured that all I should need is a pin converter 5 - 11 pin and I should be fine.
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When that duly arrived, it still didn't work. What I noticed when using this though was :
1) The Samsung pops up a message "HDMI connected" when the monitor is on.
2) The monitor scans and doesn't tell me there is no signal - It sits there with a black screen when the note 3 is connected.
3) The Samsung loses it's sound (on the device) but nothing comes through on the monitor (not used the monitor speakers yet so I might no have this set up)
4) The Samsung shows that it is being charged.
Further research seems to come up with conflicting results. Some people say you MUST have one of those adaptors with external power, but others swear their adaptors work fine without it because the Note 3 is MHL 2.0 and only needs it for battery charging.
So I am a bit confused and hope some folks here can shed some light on this matter. My HTC sensation works perfectly with just the lead, I find it hard to believe the |Note 3 won't even when the pin outs are correct and the monitor is clearly supplying power to the device.
Any help appreciated, I don't want to buy an older mhl 1.0 adaptor with power or an expensive 2.0 adaptor if it's not necessary and I do want to hear from anyone that has an adaptor that doesn't require power.
I've never owned one Samsung phone, even when using an official (powered) MHL adapter, that worked well enough to even be worth having the adapter.
I don't know if the Note 3 requires it or not, but I wouldn't even bother with it tbh.
My Samsung MHL 2.0 cable does NOT require a power input with the Note 3 (I still use one anyway). AFAIK you still need a charging input if the cable is MHL 1.0, regardless of what spec the phone has.
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My Samsung MHL 2.0 cable does NOT require a power input with the Note 3 (I still use one anyway). AFAIK you still need a charging input if the cable is MHL 1.0, regardless of what spec the phone has.
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Thanks - I take it you are talking of the official one (which came out before the note 3)?
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Thanks - I take it you are talking of the official one (which came out before the note 3)?
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Correct.
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Correct.
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Thanks, it's curious then why my mhl lead with 5 - 11pin adaptor doesn't work directly unless there's some magic in the Samsung unit.
I seem to be clearing the fog on this issue a little but I'm still confused.
It appears that what Samsung provide is and MHL > HDMI adaptor. HDMI and MHL are different ... in some way.
However, when a monitor supports HML directly this shouldn't be necessary at all. As my monitor came with this feature and supplied an MHL cable albeit the 5 pin my take on this is that fitting a 5 > 11 pin converter should be all that I need. Some appear to have used passive MHL cables with success :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483054&page=3
But I'd still like any more expert opinions on whether I'm on the right track or not. If I am then I might assume the chinese adaptor I bought is defective in some way.
I don't know what happened but I bought this one and I am surprised! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item486423fdfe This was suggested in another thread from many users however it was noted that it requires power A/C to work! To my big surprise,the one that I got it works without plugging any power source and not only that but it managed to load my external usb other than hdmi
Those are my first results after 10 minutes of testing it! Didn't have any long term session with it in order to check if it is stable or errorfree!
Because I know some users may doubt it, here is a picture showing what I said !https://db.tt/Gsum0lyU
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I don't know what happened but I bought this one and I am surprised! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item486423fdfe This was suggested in another thread from many users however it was noted that it requires power A/C to work! To my big surprise,the one that I got it works without plugging any power source and not only that but it managed to load my external usb other than hdmi [/url]
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Thanks for the heads up. Can you tell me if you were plugging this into an MHL compliant monitor or was it just one that had HDMI?
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Thanks for the heads up. Can you tell me if you were plugging this into an MHL compliant monitor or was it just one that had HDMI?
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I think No as the TV is quite old and from my usage I didn't see any signs of MHL. But I will test it again in my other TV which is much newer to see if it still works without external power! I Will post my findings on this thread in the near future
It seems that it works pretty fine also in my other (newer) TV without any power source!
Edit: flip the picture as it is wrongly displayed.
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It seems that it works pretty fine also in my other (newer) TV without any power source!
Edit: flip the picture as it is wrongly displayed.
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Thanks , they are cheap enough so I'll probably order the same one and give it a try.
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Thanks , they are cheap enough so I'll probably order the same one and give it a try.
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I hope you have the same luck as with me