I just bought a monitor with MHL. This came with an MHL lead Micro usb > HDMI plug so eager to try it I got nothing on the Note 3.
Testing this with my HTC Sensation the lead alone worked perfectly so I did a bit of research and figured that all I should need is a pin converter 5 - 11 pin and I should be fine.
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When that duly arrived, it still didn't work. What I noticed when using this though was :
1) The Samsung pops up a message "HDMI connected" when the monitor is on.
2) The monitor scans and doesn't tell me there is no signal - It sits there with a black screen when the note 3 is connected.
3) The Samsung loses it's sound (on the device) but nothing comes through on the monitor (not used the monitor speakers yet so I might no have this set up)
4) The Samsung shows that it is being charged.
Further research seems to come up with conflicting results. Some people say you MUST have one of those adaptors with external power, but others swear their adaptors work fine without it because the Note 3 is MHL 2.0 and only needs it for battery charging.
So I am a bit confused and hope some folks here can shed some light on this matter. My HTC sensation works perfectly with just the lead, I find it hard to believe the |Note 3 won't even when the pin outs are correct and the monitor is clearly supplying power to the device.
Any help appreciated, I don't want to buy an older mhl 1.0 adaptor with power or an expensive 2.0 adaptor if it's not necessary and I do want to hear from anyone that has an adaptor that doesn't require power.
I've never owned one Samsung phone, even when using an official (powered) MHL adapter, that worked well enough to even be worth having the adapter.
I don't know if the Note 3 requires it or not, but I wouldn't even bother with it tbh.
My Samsung MHL 2.0 cable does NOT require a power input with the Note 3 (I still use one anyway). AFAIK you still need a charging input if the cable is MHL 1.0, regardless of what spec the phone has.
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My Samsung MHL 2.0 cable does NOT require a power input with the Note 3 (I still use one anyway). AFAIK you still need a charging input if the cable is MHL 1.0, regardless of what spec the phone has.
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Thanks - I take it you are talking of the official one (which came out before the note 3)?
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Thanks - I take it you are talking of the official one (which came out before the note 3)?
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Correct.
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Correct.
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Thanks, it's curious then why my mhl lead with 5 - 11pin adaptor doesn't work directly unless there's some magic in the Samsung unit.
I seem to be clearing the fog on this issue a little but I'm still confused.
It appears that what Samsung provide is and MHL > HDMI adaptor. HDMI and MHL are different ... in some way.
However, when a monitor supports HML directly this shouldn't be necessary at all. As my monitor came with this feature and supplied an MHL cable albeit the 5 pin my take on this is that fitting a 5 > 11 pin converter should be all that I need. Some appear to have used passive MHL cables with success :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483054&page=3
But I'd still like any more expert opinions on whether I'm on the right track or not. If I am then I might assume the chinese adaptor I bought is defective in some way.
I don't know what happened but I bought this one and I am surprised! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item486423fdfe This was suggested in another thread from many users however it was noted that it requires power A/C to work! To my big surprise,the one that I got it works without plugging any power source and not only that but it managed to load my external usb other than hdmi
Those are my first results after 10 minutes of testing it! Didn't have any long term session with it in order to check if it is stable or errorfree!
Because I know some users may doubt it, here is a picture showing what I said !https://db.tt/Gsum0lyU
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I don't know what happened but I bought this one and I am surprised! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item486423fdfe This was suggested in another thread from many users however it was noted that it requires power A/C to work! To my big surprise,the one that I got it works without plugging any power source and not only that but it managed to load my external usb other than hdmi [/url]
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Thanks for the heads up. Can you tell me if you were plugging this into an MHL compliant monitor or was it just one that had HDMI?
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Thanks for the heads up. Can you tell me if you were plugging this into an MHL compliant monitor or was it just one that had HDMI?
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I think No as the TV is quite old and from my usage I didn't see any signs of MHL. But I will test it again in my other TV which is much newer to see if it still works without external power! I Will post my findings on this thread in the near future
It seems that it works pretty fine also in my other (newer) TV without any power source!
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SAVVAS. said:
It seems that it works pretty fine also in my other (newer) TV without any power source!
Edit: flip the picture as it is wrongly displayed.
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Thanks , they are cheap enough so I'll probably order the same one and give it a try.
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Thanks , they are cheap enough so I'll probably order the same one and give it a try.
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I hope you have the same luck as with me
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Hey there, i have tried gathering information about this subject and it seems all threads always lead to this announcement:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
Short: Samsung have changed to an 11 Pin-out to enable USB OTG and MHL Hdmi out at the same time. I purchased an original HDTV Adapter (EPL-3FHUBEGSTD) which as far as i can reliably count indeed has about 11 connectors inside the USB connector that goes into the phone.
Now, i can get HDMI out just fine, but ONLY when i also connect the MHL adapter to a power source (a PC USB Port will do fine), however i have also read, that the phone is able to power the MHL adapter itself but obviously would not be charged then (no surprises there). This does not work however.
Further, connecting a USB OTG cable to the micro usb port on the MHL adapter does nothing. No notification and no devices connecting. No power either, since the LED on my USB Hub does not light up as it should. Connecting any devices to the hub does nothing to change that situation. If i leave out the MHL adapter and connect the USB OTG cable directly to the phone, everything works perfectly. I have tried this with 2 different OTG cables so they are not the problem.
This is an original genuine HDTV Adapter for our phones, which according to that post should be working fine with USB OTG.
AFAIK, this topic --does-- come up more frequently now as i can find a few more discussions about it, albeit none really helpful:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-of-11-pin-mhl-connector-in-samsung-galaxy-s3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743128
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803079
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link#11-pin_MHL-USB_Connector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811435
That wiki entry is the most interesting link as it definitely states that using MHL and USB OTG simultaneously is possible and is also the reason why the 5 pin layout was changed to an 11 Pin layout.
Looking forward to reading your replies!
the ability to use MHL and OTG simultaneously would give the S3 so much more purpose. It is powerful enough to replace a desktop computer used only for light stuff like browsing and watching videos, and even simple gaming. If samsung made a dock like the one for the motorola atrix I'm convinced they will broaden their target group. The atrix got everything right with this but is inferior hardware wise. I love the idea of a one device for everything concept. Unfortunately it doesn't rhyme very well with the growth society.
Love the MHL and the OTG is even better only after I got the correct cables as the cables changed on S3 to the S2 version, unlimited space for watching films on my phone is now awesome and even better connecting it to to the TV just need a good dock,
is there perhaps any expert advise on this? According to multiple sources it should work but really doesnt. Did i buy the wrong mhl adapter?
I think they will only both work together when being used with an MHL enabled tv. That way the power comes from the tv and the usb on the adapter can be used for the usb-otg cable.
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But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
Thanks
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But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
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I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
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I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
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It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
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It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
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Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
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Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
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I have recently received an MHL connector (5 pin type) and the samsung 11 to 5 pin adapter for it. I can confirm that if I plug my OTG cable into it, and then into my powered USB hub, I can get the MHL to work just fine, both video and audio. The OTG cable powers it just fine, but does NOT allow me to use other devices attached to the USB hub.
I am still researching. I suspect you need to bring all 11 pins off the phone with a splitter of some sort, or possibly wire data lines through the MHL. Probably not with the 5 pin MHL connector and 11 to 5 pin adapter, but with the full 11 pin MHL adapter. I am not up to that level of hardware hacking. I suspect whoever does it first can sell a BUNCH of them!
Oh, and I have a Moto Lapdock for my Raspberry Pi, and would love to hook my S3 to it too!
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I've never actually tried to use an MHL cable for my phones before, so I was wondering if this would be compatible for my N3: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ATDA8C8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1AMUYYA3CT6HJ
Doesn't list N3 as one of the compatible devices but I figured that the N3 was backwards compatible with a micro usb, it shouldn't be a problem.
Does anyone know? And do I just plug it in and I'm good to go?
I use one off eBay that cost £3 that I used for my HTC One but it has a power source as well
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I've never actually tried to use an MHL cable for my phones before, so I was wondering if this would be compatible for my N3: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ATDA8C8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1AMUYYA3CT6HJ
Doesn't list N3 as one of the compatible devices but I figured that the N3 was backwards compatible with a micro usb, it shouldn't be a problem.
Does anyone know? And do I just plug it in and I'm good to go?
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Hi Calvin,
This one can not compatible with Note 3 for the Micro USB port of is different from the Micro USB port of Note 2/S4/S4.
The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 comes with USB 3.0 port.
Yes it will work with the Note 3. As long as it's an 11 pin adapter it'll work. The difference lies between mhl 1.0 and mhl 2.0. Mhl 1.0 requires you being plugged into a power source, 2.0 doesn't. Having usb 3.0 on our phones makes no difference. It's no different than being able to use a standard micro usb to charge our phones.
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my mhl 1 adapter not working
I have an MHL 1 adapter and it isn't working on my note 3. it is powered and I plug into my hdmi port on my monitor and nothing. I don't see a setting to enable so I suspect it supposed to happen automatically.
I bought this one.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1001326-REG/kanex_s3hdtv_mhl_2_0_to_hdtv.html
The plug fits both note 3 and note 8.0. I will test it later today.
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Yes it will work with the Note 3. As long as it's an 11 pin adapter it'll work. The difference lies between mhl 1.0 and mhl 2.0. Mhl 1.0 requires you being plugged into a power source, 2.0 doesn't. Having usb 3.0 on our phones makes no difference. It's no different than being able to use a standard micro usb to charge our phones.
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I have a samsung MHL 1.0 adapter on my s4 and note 3 and i dont need a power source to run it
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I have a samsung MHL 1.0 adapter on my s4 and note 3 and i dont need a power source to run it
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Then it's MHL 2.0. Google it. You have to have a power source prior to.
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Yes it will work with the Note 3. As long as it's an 11 pin adapter it'll work. The difference lies between mhl 1.0 and mhl 2.0. Mhl 1.0 requires you being plugged into a power source, 2.0 doesn't. Having usb 3.0 on our phones makes no difference. It's no different than being able to use a standard micro usb to charge our phones.
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How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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Then it's MHL 2.0. Google it. You have to have a power source prior to.
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Nope, not true. I have an old Samsung MHL 1.0 adapter that I use with the 5 to 11 pin adapter and the Note 3 powers it fine all on it's own. I also have the MHL 2.0 adapter from Samsung and that doesn't require the adapter but does NOT work if plugged into an AV Receiver (even when plugged into a dedicated MHL port). The MHL 1.0 adapter worked fine plugged into the AV Receiver but when I plug in the MHL 2.0 cable it pops up a message saying 'Plug HDMI cable directly into TV'. I even tried it with a Redmere (active) HDMI cable to see if that would fool it but it didn't.
It does work when plugged into the TV but I get no audio since the AV Receiver provides audio and the TV is HDMI 1.3 so no audio return.
On a side note the MHL connector (Yamaha RX-A1030) does not provide charging power (or any power at all) despite Yamaha's extensive marketing of the benefits of MHL (vs a plain old HDMI input). With an external power source connected to the MHL 2.0 cable I see 700mA charging current (vs 1200 if I plug the cable directly into the Note 3).
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Nope, not true. I have an old Samsung MHL 1.0 adapter that I use with the 5 to 11 pin adapter and the Note 3 powers it fine all on it's own. I also have the MHL 2.0 adapter from Samsung and that doesn't require the adapter but does NOT work if plugged into an AV Receiver (even when plugged into a dedicated MHL port). The MHL 1.0 adapter worked fine plugged into the AV Receiver but when I plug in the MHL 2.0 cable it pops up a message saying 'Plug HDMI cable directly into TV'. I even tried it with a Redmere (active) HDMI cable to see if that would fool it but it didn't.
It does work when plugged into the TV but I get no audio since the AV Receiver provides audio and the TV is HDMI 1.3 so no audio return.
On a side note the MHL connector (Yamaha RX-A1030) does not provide charging power (or any power at all) despite Yamaha's extensive marketing of the benefits of MHL (vs a plain old HDMI input). With an external power source connected to the MHL 2.0 cable I see 700mA charging current (vs 1200 if I plug the cable directly into the Note 3).
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I stand corrected. I knew there was only a few phones capable without external power but haven't had a chance to test on the Note 3. I was under the impression from what I've read that it had to be mhl 2.0 adapter not just the phone. I have a HTC One and my trusty old 5 pin, I sold my 11 pin a long time ago with my S3. I'm waiting on my 11 pin mhl 2.0 to get here now.
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How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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Search for an 11 pin specifically or a 5 pin with 11 pin adapter. Here is a link to one on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CTK0TSW/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_Fccxsb1RNZGE8
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How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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Look at the bottom (hook) side of the plug.
11 pin has a groove on the middle.
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I stand corrected. I knew there was only a few phones capable without external power but haven't had a chance to test on the Note 3. I was under the impression from what I've read that it had to be mhl 2.0 adapter not just the phone. I have a HTC One and my trusty old 5 pin, I sold my 11 pin a long time ago with my S3. I'm waiting on my 11 pin mhl 2.0 to get here now.
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Search for an 11 pin specifically or a 5 pin with 11 pin adapter. Here is a link to one on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CTK0TSW/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_Fccxsb1RNZGE8
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It's out of stock atm. I'm trying to look for one without a power source and is compatible with S3/N2, which I'm guessing should be all of them since they both use an 11-pin.
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Then the one I linked should work fine despite aaa111sss said about it, right?
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Yeah he's thinking that it has to be the same connector as the usb 3.0. It doesn't. Standard micro usb plugs up to our phones. We just don't get the benefits of 3.0 with them. The biggest factor in usb 3.0 is the data transfer rates and I'm guessing charging rate although I'm unsure about the charging thing.
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How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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The (official Samsung ) MHL adapter of the sgs3 and note2 work great on the note 3
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Yeah he's thinking that it has to be the same connector as the usb 3.0. It doesn't. Standard micro usb plugs up to our phones. We just don't get the benefits of 3.0 with them. The biggest factor in usb 3.0 is the data transfer rates and I'm guessing charging rate although I'm unsure about the charging thing.
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I just realized it requires a power source, which I'm not interested in. Don't really want any more than one chord connecting directly to my TV if possible. There's a few adapters that are cheaper for around $10, so I'm trying to looking for one without a power source and is compatible with S3/N2 (which I'm guessing is all of them since they both use 11-pin). Is it unreasonable to get one for around $15-18?
This is what I searched: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p...l+hdmi&ie=UTF8&qid=1381784572&rnid=2470954011
Unless I missed something, they all seem to need a power source.
According to CraigAmey they will work without a power source but if you're questioning it look specifically for mhl 2.0 11 pin. I know for a fact mhl 2.0 adaptors don't require it. I'm working but when I get the chance I'll post the link for one I found earlier.
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I did talk to Samsung advanced tech support about the MHL 2.0 adapter not working when plugged into a receiver. In short what he said was they never wanted it to work but the MHL 2.0 is the first one that can tell what it's plugged into, and therefore lock you out of using anything other than a TV or monitor. So all of those companies putting MHL inputs on their receivers (Yamaha, Pioneer) may as well not bother because Samsung are explicitly locking their latest devices to not support them.
Also while I've verified that the Note 3 can be used with either MHL 1.0 or 2.0 adapters without external power it does drain the battery pretty fast when you hook this up so if you're planning on watching a long movie you might want to connect power anyway. I haven't had a chance to test if any of the OTG peripherals work with the MHL 2.0 adapter yet either, that's next.
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I did talk to Samsung advanced tech support about the MHL 2.0 adapter not working when plugged into a receiver. In short what he said was they never wanted it to work but the MHL 2.0 is the first one that can tell what it's plugged into, and therefore lock you out of using anything other than a TV or monitor. So all of those companies putting MHL inputs on their receivers (Yamaha, Pioneer) may as well not bother because Samsung are explicitly locking their latest devices to not support them.
Also while I've verified that the Note 3 can be used with either MHL 1.0 or 2.0 adapters without external power it does drain the battery pretty fast when you hook this up so if you're planning on watching a long movie you might want to connect power anyway. I haven't had a chance to test if any of the OTG peripherals work with the MHL 2.0 adapter yet either, that's next.
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That's a good point. Thanks.
After looking through some more on Amazon, I'm thinking my original linked cable should work fine, but I'm not sure which one I should get: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...id=1381792525&sr=1-4&keywords=galaxy+mhl+hdmi
I can't seem to tell the difference between the three options. Also, after searching for a few of these on amazon, I'm worried that it won't actually charge the phone while in use. I'm getting conflicting reports according to the reviews over whether or not it charges the phone. I want to use this occasionally, but mainly for my mother to watch some of the shows she has on her phone, so it's quite important that it charges.
All share cast dongle is the way to go.
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I was under the impression that Note 3 supported MHL 2.0 but when I plug in the official HDTV adapter from Samsung (model number ET-H10FAUWEGWW) I still need to also use a USB charger to get it to show through the HDMI input on my TV?
If I don't I get a continual on-screen message on the phone "HDMI cable connected/disconnected" flashing/cycling until I plug-in the Micro USB charger cable on the side of the HDTV adapter.
Any thoughts appreciated
Your TV would have to have the MHL adapter which would mean you would have had to buy it most likely this year. If you are just plugging it into a regular HDMI slot there is not power available this is why you need to hook up the adapter.
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Your TV would have to have the MHL adapter which would mean you would have had to buy it most likely this year. If you are just plugging it into a regular HDMI slot there is not power available this is why you need to hook up the adapter.
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Thanks, didn't see that anywhere in the small print or YouTube reviews. Looks like I need a new tv, lol.
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I was under the impression that Note 3 supported MHL 2.0 but when I plug in the official HDTV adapter from Samsung (model number ET-H10FAUWEGWW) I still need to also use a USB charger to get it to show through the HDMI input on my TV?
If I don't I get a continual on-screen message on the phone "HDMI cable connected/disconnected" flashing/cycling until I plug-in the Micro USB charger cable on the side of the HDTV adapter.
Any thoughts appreciated
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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Thanks, didn't see that anywhere in the small print or YouTube reviews. Looks like I need a new tv, lol.
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You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
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Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA
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Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
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Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Micr...e=UTF8&qid=1384305065&sr=8-4&keywords=mhl+2.0
Fair warning though; this adapter is not perfect by any means, you can read my review on amazon (the one that tested it out on the note 3). As noted in my review, I am still waiting on a replacement one (since the original one I got functioned but didn't charge when I hooked up my power adapter), and I'll let you guys know if it's better once I receive it. Even though it doesn't function perfectly, for $10 dollars it does the trick.
Edit: They are sending me an extra without having to return the original, so even if the second one doesn't charge, at $5 a pop I'm happy.
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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Thanks for alerting me to the counterfeit reasoning that shows this part must be a copycat, I contacted the supplier of this part to us for a partial refund as I will use this as a backup and try and buy an original and prices drop from the £39 or take advice of the other replies in this thread and find a genuine 2.0 MHL non-Samsung version. I'll report back if I have any trouble with the supplier claiming that it is a genuine part and see how far eBay support me.
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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CraigAmey said:
You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
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Thanks babyshanks and CraigAmey for clarifying and also confirming that I don't need it new TV to take advantage of MHL 2.0's not requirement for external USB power. As I said in my previous reply and with this information and going back to the supplier on eBay to us for a partial refund as I will keep this version of the adapter until prices come down from the genuine parts for fine art genuine MHL 2.0 adapter non-Samsung version.
CraigAmey said:
You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
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I've read that you need to plug into a TV but haven't had problems. But I am using a samsung mhl 1.0 with 11pin adapter. Didn't need power also. Waiting for Samsung to get on the ball so I can buy a genuine mhl 2 from them.
sent from my sm-9005.
I bought the Samsung one before it went out of stock and it works in any HDMI input also without the need to plug it to the power outlet, but I'm sure a full HD movie will drain the battery fast..
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I think for the price of the official one your better off just getting a wireless dongle, unless you plan to game with it.
Hi guys, here's the response from the eBay seller, "These items were purchased From Kondor Ltd who are one of the major UK Distributors of Samsung Accessories. I would be extremely surprised if they sold fake stock and risked losing there multi-million contract with Samsung over some cheap fake stock. I can only assume the item received has a manufacturing fault of some sort as this is the first problem we have encountered for this product sorry.", so as you can imagine I'm beginning to think there my be a fault with my phone if this message is to be believed, what do you guys think?
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@rbiter said:
I've read that you need to plug into a TV but haven't had problems. But I am using a samsung mhl 1.0 with 11pin adapter. Didn't need power also. Waiting for Samsung to get on the ball so I can buy a genuine mhl 2 from them.
sent from my sm-9005.
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The MHL 1.0 adapter doesn't care what it's plugged into, only the MHL 2.0 adapter has that issue.
I just bought a mhl cable through amazon. It has the USB connector for the phone on one side, and a HDMI connector on the other. Directly attached to the HDMI connector is a regular USB plug which I plugged into my power source for my phone (as this is how I understood it should work).
I don't get any messages on my phone that indicate that it is connected to my TV/Monitor and my phone also doesn't indicate that it's charging.
What I read from the product description was, that connecting this cable to my power source would also charge the phone. So could it be my phone is charging, even if the battery indicator doesn't say so? Like it would be charging just so much as that my phone doesn't drain? Or should it clearly indicate that the battery gets charged. Befor knowing this, I'm hestitant to send the cable back as defective.
Can any one advise?
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I just bought a mhl cable through amazon. It has the USB connector for the phone on one side, and a HDMI connector on the other. Directly attached to the HDMI connector is a regular USB plug which I plugged into my power source for my phone (as this is how I understood it should work).
I don't get any messages on my phone that indicate that it is connected to my TV/Monitor and my phone also doesn't indicate that it's charging.
What I read from the product description was, that connecting this cable to my power source would also charge the phone. So could it be my phone is charging, even if the battery indicator doesn't say so? Like it would be charging just so much as that my phone doesn't drain? Or should it clearly indicate that the battery gets charged. Befor knowing this, I'm hestitant to send the cable back as defective.
Can any one advise?
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The phone should indicate it is charging as it normally would.
NZtechfreak said:
The phone should indicate it is charging as it normally would.
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Thanks. I really appreciate your straight answer
I'll be sending the cable back. I wouldn't bother too much if it wouldn't supply the full resolution and such, but I'd at least would expect some output on my TV.
Mikegrmn said:
Thanks. I really appreciate your straight answer
I'll be sending the cable back. I wouldn't bother too much if it wouldn't supply the full resolution and such, but I'd at least would expect some output on my TV.
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You're welcome.
I love using MHL, but I really wish there weren't several varieties of MHL cables (5-pin, 11-pin, 1.0 and 2.0) and also such a large number of fakes and very low quality ones out there. Makes buying difficult, as all these threads about MHL demonstrate.
Does anyone know if you can physical see whether you have a 5 pin or 11 pin MHL 2.0?
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Hi, my phone's (E970) display is dead. can I use MHL Adapter and hook it up to an HDMI Port on my monitor and get the display on it??
I am on CM 10.2 Stable right now. If its possible, cabn you tell me which MHL cable should I buy. I can only find the ones made for Samsung phones locally..Will this work?
http://www.ebay.in/itm/FOR-HTC-MHL-...ies&hash=item3cc9cc66f0&_uhb=1#ht_4870wt_1159
Thank you for reading. Hope you can help me resolve this..
NHS2008 said:
Hi, my phone's (E970) display isROM,ad. can I use MHL Adapter and hook it up to an HDMI Port on my monitor and get the display on it??
I am on CM 10.2 Stable right now. If its possible, cabn you tell me which MHL cable should I buy. I can only find the ones made for Samsung phones locally..Will this work?
http://www.ebay.in/itm/FOR-HTC-MHL-...ies&hash=item3cc9cc66f0&_uhb=1#ht_4870wt_1159
Thank you for reading. Hope you can help me resolve this..
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The mhl that came with my Samsung Infuse worked with CM rom, the micro USB to supply power to adaptor and HDMI had to be hooked up in a certain order for it to work. I don't remember which needs to be first. Also not certain it will work with a broken display, and I am wondering how you will get input to phone. Does the screen still register touches?
adfurgerson said:
The mhl that came with my Samsung Infuse worked with CM rom, the micro USB to supply power to adaptor and HDMI had to be hooked up in a certain order for it to work. I don't remember which needs to be first. Also not certain it will work with a broken display, and I am wondering how you will get input to phone. Does the screen still register touches?
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Yes, Its perfectly registers touches but the display is blank. I can use the phone but theres no display.
So, is there any easy way to change the Tab 12.2 and keep USB as a data connection?
something like this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Ports-Mic...TG-PC-Laptop-Smartphone-Table-B-/161222133020
xhanatos said:
something like this?
ebay.com/itm/4-Ports-Micro-USB-2-0-HUB-Charger-Apdater-Cable-OTG-PC-Laptop-Smartphone-Table-B-/161222133020
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That looks promising. Has anyone tried it yet? Just ordered one and will post if it works or not.
I haven't tried it but would like to know if it did.
Ordered but it's going to be a while. Didn't realise until after I placed the order that it's coming from China. Estimated delivery between June 20 and July 24. Order status says shipped already, but I've had stuff stuck in NY Customs for a few weeks on more than one occasion.
I just found this why searching for an answer to this. Suppose to work with all 6 devices!!! (8.4, 10.1, 12.2, Tab/Pro)
http://lavalink.com/products/tablet...taneous-charge-for-tab-4-tab-pro-4-usb-1-lan/
matthelm said:
I just found this why searching for an answer to this. Suppose to work with all 6 devices!!! (8.4, 10.1, 12.2, Tab/Pro)
http://lavalink.com/products/tablet...taneous-charge-for-tab-4-tab-pro-4-usb-1-lan/
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Nice. Maybe it'll go into production before I receive the adapter I ordered, lol. Still stuck at China Post.
Jerryo100 said:
That looks promising. Has anyone tried it yet? Just ordered one and will post if it works or not.
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The power point is used to power the connected devices and doesn't power/charge the tablet.
Plus it's only powerful enough to power USB devices, it will not power 2.5 " HDD's for example.
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The power point is used to power the connected devices and doesn't power/charge the tablet.
Plus it's only powerful enough to power USB devices, it will not power 2.5 " HDD's for example.
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Did you order one of these? If not, I'm curious as to where your getting the specs from. I'm hoping your wrong of course, lol. My external 2.5" HDD runs perfectly with 500ma, so if I had my 2100ma USB wall wort powering this adapter, I would assume I would get 500ma (if the power is being limited) or more out of the 2 usb ports. Unless Samsung is planning on selling an overpriced breakout box, I don't understand why they would cripple such a nice tablet with this one port for everything crap.
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Did you order one of these? If not, I'm curious as to where your getting the specs from. I'm hoping your wrong of course, lol. My external 2.5" HDD runs perfectly with 500ma, so if I had my 2100ma USB wall wort powering this adapter, I would assume I would get 500ma (if the power is being limited) or more out of the 2 usb ports. Unless Samsung is planning on selling an overpriced breakout box, I don't understand why they would cripple such a nice tablet with this one port for everything crap.
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I ordered the 1 port version, not the 2 ports version mentioned above.
It's true the tablet can power 2.5 HDD's when connected to any/most OTG cables, but I also wanted to use it with a phone (which needs the HDD to be connected to a power source).
After I sent the 1 port version back, I looked at buying the 2 port version, but after reading the small print, I found out the tablet couldn't be powered/charged, the power point was used to power the connected devices.
Two examples of the 2 ports version I looked at:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Micro-Adapter-Cable-Galaxy-EXCITES/dp/B00J2QID16/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1402734708&sr=8-29&keywords=otg+cable
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kool-TM-Adapter-Samsung-Smartphones/dp/B00K73U1O0/ref=sr_1_42?ie=UTF8&qid=1402734715&sr=8-42&keywords=otg+cable
The USB Power Port only supplies extra power to the dual OTG ports. It will not charge your mobile phone or tablet.
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The 2 port version, obviously will work when connecting 2 devices at once, but the power point, won't be any use, as the tablet will already be powering the devices.
That's my understanding of it.
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I ordered the 1 port version, not the 2 ports version mentioned above.
It's true the tablet can power 2.5 HDD's when connected to any/most OTG cables, but I also wanted to use it with a phone (which needs the HDD to be connected to a power source).
After I sent the 1 port version back, I looked at buying the 2 port version, but after reading the small print, I found out the tablet couldn't be powered/charged, the power point was used to power the connected devices.
Two examples of the 2 ports version I looked at:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Micro-Adapter-Cable-Galaxy-EXCITES/dp/B00J2QID16/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1402734708&sr=8-29&keywords=otg+cable
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kool-TM-Adapter-Samsung-Smartphones/dp/B00K73U1O0/ref=sr_1_42?ie=UTF8&qid=1402734715&sr=8-42&keywords=otg+cable
The 2 port version, obviously will work when connecting 2 devices at once, but the power point, won't be any use, as the tablet will already be powering the devices.
That's my understanding of it.
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Just got this adapter in: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Ports-Micro-USB-2-0-HUB-Charger-Apdater-Cable-OTG-PC-Laptop-Smartphone-Table-B-/161222133020
It does not charge the tablet. It does supply power to the 2 usb ports even when disconnected from the tablet. It is an inexpensive alternative to the Samsung otg to usb adapter I purchased for $19.99.
Hopefully Samsung or some other company comes out with an adapter that can charge the tablet and has usb and hdmi ports.
matthelm said:
I just found this why searching for an answer to this. Suppose to work with all 6 devices!!! (8.4, 10.1, 12.2, Tab/Pro)
http://lavalink.com/products/tablet...taneous-charge-for-tab-4-tab-pro-4-usb-1-lan/
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BTW, Lava contacted me, and said end of June. 2 more weeks. I'll order one as soon as I can, and will report the results. (I'm not 100% use which model I'll be getting, but they should be the same with just parts/ports missing)
matthelm said:
BTW, Lava contacted me, and said end of June. 2 more weeks. I'll order one as soon as I can, and will report the results. (I'm not 100% use which modem I'll be getting, but they should be the same with just parts/ports missing)
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I wish they'd make one that also included HDMI.
So you could charge your device, connect a HDD/USB and play the contents to a TV.
matthelm said:
BTW, Lava contacted me, and said end of June. 2 more weeks. I'll order one as soon as I can, and will report the results. (I'm not 100% use which modem I'll be getting, but they should be the same with just parts/ports missing)
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I wish they'd make one that also included HDMI.
So you could charge your device, connect a HDD/USB and play the contents to a TV.
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Nice find. I'm with 0-0-0 on the included HDMI. Just got this reply from them "nothing planned for hdmi. our current adapter will work with your 12.2 inch tablet on just usb though." Maybe if enough people contacted them stating their interest, they might develop one. Easy to send a message right from the product page requesting this.
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Nice find. I'm with 0-0-0 on the included HDMI. Just got this reply from them "nothing planned for hdmi. our current adapter will work with your 12.2 inch tablet on just usb though." Maybe if enough people contacted them stating their interest, they might develop one. Easy to send a message right from the product page requesting this.
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Wouldn't any of the USB to HDMI converters hooked to one of the USB ports work??? (just asking, have no intention of hooking it up)
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Wouldn't any of the USB to HDMI converters hooked to one of the USB ports work??? (just asking, have no intention of hooking it up)
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I don't think an MHL adapter works with a regular USB port. Not 100% sure though. Just ordered a male USB to female micro USB to try, lol. Even if it doesn't work, that's one adapter I don't already own. If it works through this adapter I purchased: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Ports-Micro-USB-2-0-HUB-Charger-Apdater-Cable-OTG-PC-Laptop-Smartphone-Table-B-/161222133020 then it should work through that Lava adapter.
hdmi, usb , & charge at the same time
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I wish they'd make one that also included HDMI.
So you could charge your device, connect a HDD/USB and play the contents to a TV.
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Jerryo100 said:
Nice find. I'm with 0-0-0 on the included HDMI. Just got this reply from them "nothing planned for hdmi. our current adapter will work with your 12.2 inch tablet on just usb though." Maybe if enough people contacted them stating their interest, they might develop one. Easy to send a message right from the product page requesting this.
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Wouldn't any of the USB to HDMI converters hooked to one of the USB ports work??? (just asking, have no intention of hooking it up)
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here u go guys...meant to post this almost a week ago when i saw the topic. i ordered one for my tab pro 8.4 lte (should work for every variant though) & it works great...u can use hdmi (takes the regular full sized cable) with a hard drive/flash drive or large sdcard connected simultaneously while charging your device but the charger doesnt even need to be plugged up for hdmi to work. The bonus for me was that i won mine in an auction & only paid $4 for it (normally around $10 as u can see from the link which still isnt bad)...if there is any negative about this thing its all the weight/stress resting on that lil micro usb connection which means it basically needs to be placed perfectly flat. They also have a dock version which should solve that issue for around $20 which i plan to order & test at some point...hope this helps other users out with your decision
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Micro-USB-OTG-SD-TF-Card-Reader-Writer-HUB-MHL-To-HDMI-HDTV-TV-Adapter-/131216319273?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item1e8d1a2329
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Micro-USB-OTG-SD-TF-Card-Reader-Writer-HUB-MHL-To-HDMI-HDTV-TV-Adapter-/131216319273?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item1e8d1a2329
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What a pity, doesn't ship to Germany or Switzerland...
burningstep said:
What a pity, doesn't ship to Germany or Switzerland...
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try the link below...i checked the shipping exclusions so u should be good to go
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-OTG-TF-Card-Reader-Writer-HUB-MHL-To-HDMI-For-Samsung-Note-3-/191218384443?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2c8580fe3b
@burningstep
yep...this DEFINITELY works simultaneously. I use it to watch movies from my usb external on my pico projector that are both connected to the tab pro...u wont be disappointed, in fact, i was surprised that it didnt even need the charger attached because it was necessary for both of my other tabs (the original 7 & the tab plus) although u will want to plug it up anyway or your battery is gonna get burned up pretty quick
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try the link below...i checked the shipping exclusions so u should be good to go
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-OTG-TF-Card-Reader-Writer-HUB-MHL-To-HDMI-For-Samsung-Note-3-/191218384443?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2c8580fe3b
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Great, thank you very much.
And you're sure, that HDMI and USB-OTG and Tablet-Charging works at the same time? Thus, I'll be able to play a video from an external harddisk to my TV over HDMI out.