Hi to everybody!
I am a owner of a Galaxy 3.6 player and I am very interested in buying the new dac / headphone amp by Fiio, the E18 model.
You can see more details on the official site (Products -> Portable AMP&DAC).
In the description they write:
"E18 can work with smartphones with USB OTG function"
I don't think that my player supports this feature, but I ask: is an hardware problem (the player does not supply sufficient energy) or a software problem (too old Android version, ...)?
If this is not possibile with the litlle GP 3.6, there is on the market another player that can do this?
[Little OT: the old Galaxy S with cyanogenmod 10.1.3 supports the usb otg?]
I believe (according to the OP) that Androthan's Arcane Kernel for the GP3.6 supports usb otg feature. But there are a lot of people mentioning wifi problems with that kernel and the usb otg feature has not been tested (not sure) therefore I would'nt recommend it.
As for other Galaxy Players, I doubt the stock rom and kernel of any player have the usb otg feature. But it has been achieved through custom kernels with usb otg support
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drakonizer said:
I believe (according to the OP) that Androthan's Arcane Kernel for the GP3.6 supports usb otg feature. But there are a lot of people mentioning wifi problems with that kernel and the usb otg feature has not been tested (not sure) therefore I would'nt recommend it.
As for other Galaxy Players, I doubt the stock rom and kernel of any player have the usb otg feature. But it has been achieved through custom kernels with usb otg support
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Many thanks for your answer.
I found on the forum the related thread for the Kernel that you have indicated, but it seems discontinued.
Perhaps there is a hope for the Androthan's CyanogenMod porting...
In the meantime I investigated how the Fiio E18 will work with a android device. Here is an answer I found in another forum:
"When E18 works as a DAC for the smartphone, the phone will not provide power for the E18. That is to say, the E18 will not consume the power of the smartphone when the E18 plays a role of DAC."
So it seems that is not mandatory that the player can supply power via usb. Perhaps is enough that the USB OTG is enabled in the kernel.
I will ask about this to Androthan...
drakonizer said:
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As for other Galaxy Players, I doubt the stock rom and kernel of any player have the usb otg feature. But it has been achieved through custom kernels with usb otg support
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Another question. The development on a custom rom for the galaxy 3.6 is still in development and in a early stage. Which player got a good custom rom, stable and without big issue?
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Well both the 3.6 and 4.2's CM7 is still under development and currently these devices only have stock.based ROMS and themes.
Both the 4.0 & 5.0 have custom roms including CM10.2. I've heard they have managed to get 5.0's 4.2.2 stable along with FM radio and camera (using a third party app). The 4.0 only has minor camera issues.
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drakonizer said:
Well both the 3.6 and 4.2's CM7 is still under development and currently these devices only have stock.based ROMS and themes.
Both the 4.0 & 5.0 have custom roms including CM10.2. I've heard they have managed to get 5.0's 4.2.2 stable along with FM radio and camera (using a third party app). The 4.0 only has minor camera issues.
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Many thanks for your answer.
Here is another question about the USB OTG feature.
I'm not a developer, so I ignore many things about the question...
From what I've read on this forum, the OTG is usually introduced with a kernel that can be flashed on a stock or custom rom.
But here is my question: if I want to introduce only this feature in a device, it would be possible to do it with a "simple" patch or an app?
The device MUST be rooted to obtain this feature?
I ask this because to use an external DAC like the Fiio E18, it would be really useful to be able to achieve this functionality in a "simple" way without having to flash a custom rom or a kernel...
Nope...you have to use a custom kernel which includes the usb otg feature, does'nt matter with which ROM, stock or custom. Also I heard someone telling the USB OTG feature cannot be used with our players due to lack of enough power from the micro usb port.
EDIT: I think if a kernel (stable) with USB OTG feature is released for the 3.6, you'll be able to use your DAC as it doesn't need power from the phone.
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Hello everybody,
I know that the scene is working really hard making and porting ROMS for the NT, now that CM7 (ALPHA) is out... I'm curious if is a CHANCE or light in the future to use a micro USB/HDMI output to be able to connect the tablet to a HD TV using MHL.
PS: Is the CM7 KERNEL capable of mounting or recognize keyboards, gamepads etc etc with micro USB port.
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Hello everybody,
I know that the scene is working really hard making and porting ROMS for the NT, now that CM7 (ALPHA) is out... I'm curious if is a CHANCE or light in the future to use a micro USB/HDMI output to be able to connect the tablet to a HD TV using MHL.
PS: Is the CM7 KERNEL capable of mounting or recognize keyboards, gamepads etc etc with micro USB port.
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I'm pretty sure that video output would require some hardware support, soas far as I know that won't be possible.
I don't know about using the USB for external devices, but if they ever figure out the "magic number" it should be possible via Bluetooth.
apavoratiago said:
Hello everybody,
I know that the scene is working really hard making and porting ROMS for the NT, now that CM7 (ALPHA) is out... I'm curious if is a CHANCE or light in the future to use a micro USB/HDMI output to be able to connect the tablet to a HD TV using MHL.
PS: Is the CM7 KERNEL capable of mounting or recognize keyboards, gamepads etc etc with micro USB port.
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MHL is pretty cool .But AFAIK Nook does not have a HDMI out function. B&N would've advertised the **** out of this feature , coz it would have been a great advertising feature .IIRC most 7" tabs lack video output .
USB OTG has not been described as a feature and seems very unlikely .
If the bluetooth module (present but disabled) is unlocked and drivers installed , then BT keyboards, gamepads possible in the distant future .
Hav fun
Gwindli said:
I'm pretty sure that video output would require some hardware support, soas far as I know that won't be possible.
I don't know about using the USB for external devices, but if they ever figure out the "magic number" it should be possible via Bluetooth.
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It is possible to pipe the display signal with software plugin and rebuild in PC via normal USB connector. It works in PSP.
Can someone send me the internal zip for cm7 please
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scotthall1515 said:
Can someone send me the internal zip for cm7 please
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This would be awesome.
Hi guys, could need some help, please:
I just can't get a picture from my S3 (neither YouTube, Homescreen, nor movie from SD Card) to show on my LG HDTV's screen... Any idea, why?
Just in case you're wondering...
-- I do have the latest/correct Adapter for the S3 (Model code: EPL-3FHUBEGSTD/Original Samsung bought on Amazon)
-- I have connected the S3 charger to the Adapter
-- One side plugged into HDTV, the other into the Adapter, and the latter plugged into S3.
I think that the CM9 Nightlies (RC2) just might not be up to par... (??)
Can anyone confirm it's actually working with your International S3 (I9300) and XpLoDWiLD's version of CM9 ??
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I can confirm this on the Cm10 nightlies.
The mhl adapter works fine on Samsung-derived Roms, just not the CM ones.
I wonder if a different kernel would help? I plan to try a few later...
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i have this exact same adapter and can confirm it working perfectly fine on samsung roms. I have posted a similar thread on getting it to work with USB OTG here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836822
I believe there must be something in the kernel to enable HDMI output (seeing as i get a "HDMI cable connected" notification) as well as switching into USB Host mode (and thus providing the adapter with power). It has been suggested that among the 11 Pins in the new Galaxy S3 port there should be 2 separate USB Ports, one to be used for charging, syncing, data cable, MHL, etc, and one to use for USB OTG while the other is in MHL mode.
I am hoping for new insight into this matter, since this would empower the device greatly. Together with the superior hardware, this would definitely be a killer feature.
+1
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Basically, I want to connect a Microsoft webcam to my SGP 4.0, and probably using a custom made .apk, just record the video from the webcam. No preview display or anything.
My plan so far is to wait until TeamSuperNova finishes their ICS for the 4.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712668
And I already have the webcam and I ordered a USB host-mode cable from Amazon (not sure if I would still need that with ICS though).
So the plan is to connect the webcam to the 4.0 with the cable, but I'm just curious if you guys think it'll work, or if any experiments have already been done in this field. I have seen the video of a webcam running on the Nexus, but I really dont care about a preview, just recording. Imagine the most ghetto Go-Pro possible, that's what I'm shooting for.
Thanks guys
no suggestions/ tips/ etc?
Frogman9 said:
no suggestions/ tips/ etc?
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Make sure you can get it working with desktop Linux. That'll give you the added benefit of knowing what driver it needs. From there you can find/port a program that'll read your /dev/video* devices, something like gstreamer, ffmpeg, mencoder, or an Andriod app.
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Make sure you can get it working with desktop Linux. That'll give you the added benefit of knowing what driver it needs. From there you can find/port a program that'll read your /dev/video* devices, something like gstreamer, ffmpeg, mencoder, or an Andriod app.
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thanks for the help bro, also, why do i need a linux system? how does that show me what driver it uses?
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thanks for the help bro, also, why do i need a linux system? how does that show me what driver it uses?
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Because Android is a Linux system, though the userspace is mostly different. You don't necessarily need to have a Linux system, but I imagine it'd be harder to do Android work on another system. Though chances are good that you'd be able to do it on another kind of UNIX, such as Mac OS X being the most popular.
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Because Android is a Linux system, though the userspace is mostly different. You don't necessarily need to have a Linux system, but I imagine it'd be harder to do Android work on another system. Though chances are good that you'd be able to do it on another kind of UNIX, such as Mac OS X being the most popular.
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okay, this makes sense, but what about using eclipse? that can handle android development and all, so would i be able to determine the driver using windows/ eclipse? and also do those terminal commands and such you also posted?
ps: sorry for my ignorance, the best ive done in android so far is a fallout soundboard....
Frogman9 said:
Basically, I want to connect a Microsoft webcam to my SGP 4.0, and probably using a custom made .apk, just record the video from the webcam. No preview display or anything.
My plan so far is to wait until TeamSuperNova finishes their ICS for the 4.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712668
And I already have the webcam and I ordered a USB host-mode cable from Amazon (not sure if I would still need that with ICS though).
So the plan is to connect the webcam to the 4.0 with the cable, but I'm just curious if you guys think it'll work, or if any experiments have already been done in this field. I have seen the video of a webcam running on the Nexus, but I really dont care about a preview, just recording. Imagine the most ghetto Go-Pro possible, that's what I'm shooting for.
Thanks guys
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I bought a USB OTG cable for my Nexus and it worked perfectly. I then tried it on my 5.0 and it didn't work. I think USB host mode is not compatible with the player range (the 5.0 anyway) as the micro USB port is not powered. But who knows, maybe it works on the 4.0
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Frogman9 said:
okay, this makes sense, but what about using eclipse? that can handle android development and all, so would i be able to determine the driver using windows/ eclipse? and also do those terminal commands and such you also posted?
ps: sorry for my ignorance, the best ive done in android so far is a fallout soundboard....
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You can find out what driver you need (if it exists) from the camera's datasheet and some Googling. If you want to test it on a more well known platform before you test it on the device, that platform would be an x86_64 linux. It's just a good refernce is all, and would come in handy in case the plug and pray method doesn't work.
Those commands only coincidentally take the name of their project, of which I was referring. See:
* http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/
* http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html
* http://ffmpeg.org/
Supermaster34 said:
I bought a USB OTG cable for my Nexus and it worked perfectly. I then tried it on my 5.0 and it didn't work. I think USB host mode is not compatible with the player range (the 5.0 anyway) as the micro USB port is not powered. But who knows, maybe it works on the 4.0
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yeah i got the OTG cable too, and it didnt work with the 4.0, but I believe thats because its not getting powered due to the 4.0 not having true 4.0 host mode, which powers the usb, so either i splice in the required 3-5v in the usb line or i wait for Team SuperNova to complete their port of CM9 (4.0.4) for my player (the 5.0 actually already has it so you should be good to go).
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yeah i got the OTG cable too, and it didnt work with the 4.0, but I believe thats because its not getting powered due to the 4.0 not having true 4.0 host mode, which powers the usb, so either i splice in the required 3-5v in the usb line or i wait for Team SuperNova to complete their port of CM9 (4.0.4) for my player (the 5.0 actually already has it so you should be good to go).
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I tried it on my 5.0 running my CM9 rom, but no luck. I'm not sure if the player series supports USB Host seeing as the GT-I9000 does not have this feature. As far as I'm aware, USB Host started appearing on devices in the same generation as the GT-I9100 so about a year later.
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USB Host appears to be a kernel feature:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-gains-usb-host-functionality/
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I tried it on my 5.0 running my CM9 rom, but no luck. I'm not sure if the player series supports USB Host seeing as the GT-I9000 does not have this feature. As far as I'm aware, USB Host started appearing on devices in the same generation as the GT-I9100 so about a year later.
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USB Host appears to be a kernel feature:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-gains-usb-host-functionality/
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damn, i wonder if we need usb host mode, i mean if its powered externally with 3-5v, and then the proper drivers are installed in a custom app, wouldnt we be able to at least display what the camera sees?
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damn, i wonder if we need usb host mode, i mean if its powered externally with 3-5v, and then the proper drivers are installed in a custom app, wouldnt we be able to at least display what the camera sees?
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kinda a side question, but do you guys think this app would work with a galaxy player 4.0?http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22884164&postcount=3
i dont know much about android, but as far as i know, as long as its android, it might be able to run, right? does the transformer use jellybean? < thats probably where my idea would fall flat if it does...
Hi,
does anybody know, whether USB OTG is supported by Desire X? I assume it is not supported by the stock system, but can I expect the support to be added by some custom system?
Regards,
Stepan
I don't want to make myself an idiot, but, what's USB OTG?
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Stereo8 said:
I don't want to make myself an idiot, but, what's USB OTG?
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It stands for USB on the go. It is the ability of the phone to act as USB host. So that you can connect a USB flash drive, keyboard, or mouse... to the phone.
There is an app in Google Play that allows to check your phone's capability of USB OTG or USB Host Mode, but I couIdn't test it with my Desire X, because I don't have any USB peripherals with a micro-usb connector. The app only says there are "classes" found (don't ask me what that means) that seem to support it. I couldn't see anything in the manual about it either.
The One X doesn't even have USB OTG with the kernel it uses now, but they might enable it in a future kernel update (read that somewhere).
Your best bet is to contact HTC support and ask them straight out.
I tested the app.
The Kernel is not supporting USB Hosting. (It`s only a Software issue, i think)
Hopefully the update will bring this feature.
S4 Play on MSM8225 doesn't support OTG. Just go on Qualcomm site and you can see it.
A bit late....
Hahaha I am a bit late on this one, but all aspects of USB OTG are functional on the Desire X w/ stock and some custom roms. This includes storage, keyboard/mouse, gamepads and much much more. Works flawlessly, and better than the Nexus 7 2013 on Stock can manage (no usb storage support!) One of the reasons I switched to CM 11 on my Nexus.
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Hahaha I am a bit late on this one, but all aspects of USB OTG are functional on the Desire X w/ stock and some custom roms. This includes storage, keyboard/mouse, gamepads and much much more. Works flawlessly, and better than the Nexus 7 2013 on Stock can manage (no usb storage support!) One of the reasons I switched to CM 11 on my Nexus.
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The thing is, USB OTG works only from Android version 4.1 and newer. 4.0 has no OTG support.
dansou901 said:
The thing is, USB OTG works only from Android version 4.1 and newer. 4.0 has no OTG support.
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Yeah, I forgot to mention that :silly:
How come when I try to connect a ps3 controller it doesn't work but USB storage does work.
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filipcar said:
How come when I try to connect a ps3 controller it doesn't work but USB storage does work.
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I think that you dont have the drivers.
Google it.
Hi gang-
Maybe nottach or someone else in the know could answer this question, does the Optimus G support usb on the go yet? I have tried several USB dongles and keys that work fine on my Galaxy S2 and Nexus 7 but nothing appears to work properly on the Optimus yet, even despite trying several USB mounting utilities such as stickmount.
Am I using the wrong utilities, or is there no support in the stock ROM or Base ROM yet?
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There's no support for it in the kernel, stock or sk8's kernel. Hopefully, once custom kernels become available, we will have USB OTG capability, although I don't know how popular it will be, given that you can stick in a 64Gig micro sdcard in our LGOG.