(UPDATE) 10/30/13--WORKING MJ4
SUCCESS ROOT ON MJ4 KNOX 0x0!
IF YOUR ALREADY ON MJ4 and want to keep knox 0x0 read bootloader warning and look at end of this post. (optionally take the mj4 ota and do one of the methods below.)
WARNING!!!!! THE MJ4 UPDATE MAY CONTAIN A NEW BOOTLOADER!!!
LOOK HERE for bootloader warning http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2503620
there have been reports of people flipping knox trying to downgrade from mj4.
at the moment there is no full mj4 file. be careful (more info post #142)
i take no responsibility for any of this
Currently the best method for doing this
Get the full official mi5 file from --http://hotfile.com/dl/251958168/19cbccf/SPR-N900PVPUBMI5-20131004144419.zip.html
this will serve as the basis for rooting straight to mi5.
next go HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850
read that page twice. read it again.
i used those files on a copy of the mi5 software to create a modified vega ready version
from there its pretty much the same
Just to be safe pull your sd card first.
FLASH THE STOCK MI5 FIRST (not needed)
1. Flash the modified vega full mi5 file you created earlier.
2. do the part with the root files on the sd card.(IT MAY BE BEST TO SKIP THIS PART UNTIL AFTER THE OTA skipping steps 2-4 should let you update,then run the sd files to gain root after update then you should be able to set status official with wanam and you should be all ready to accept the next ota.just skip 2 all together and move steps 3-4 to the end)(thanks @bard77)
3.install the wanam xposed framework and wanam xposed (the apk is in the market along with a link to the framework get both) make sure to open the framework and click update/install. (This is done in the xposed installer app not the wanam app.)
4. Spoof system status to official using wanam
5.accept the ota update and reboot
6. Copy the vega root files back to the sd
7.reboot
8.remove the vega root files again
9.reboot
10. Check root. i used root checker free from market
11. check knox status (reboot download mode again)
12. head back over to the vega thread and throw a thanks and maybe buy designgears a drink!
if using supersu pro keep ota root method. you must run the sd files before accepting ota (must have root first) then you wouldnt need to run them again. but because you have to run them once at some point anyway probably better at this point to go ahead and skip the sd files until after ota and reboot.
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SET SYSTEM STATUS BACK TO OFFICIAL WITH WANAM YET>this is no big deal.will just have to wait for the next update anyway. (Check updated method above in red. doing it that way should let you spoof status again.)
I did not have to wipe data.
a downgrade will not flip the flag.(ON MJ4 A DOWNGRADE MAY FLIP KNOX!!)
vega knox safe root works.
spoofing system status works
flashing the official sammy again gives you a stock phone with knox still 0x0 and status official.(there is no mj4 full restore be careful!)
system status custom but no biggie there.
Spoofing system status to official with xposed and taking the ota will remove root.you must use the vega root files again.or supersu pro to keep root.
Flashing any full stock samsung files again will return everything to official.(caution on mj4)
Good enough for me at the moment.
Also remember flashing a custom kernel\recovery at this time will flip knox.
Any zip files you would want to flash will need to be done manually instead. Use adb or a file explorer with root access [I use es file explorer] and copy the files over.
THIS WILL NOT RESET KNOX if it has already been flipped. at the moment it looks like a hardware fuse gets blown. there may be no way to reset knox to 0x0. (however i am constantly surprised at what the talented devs on this forum can pull off)
FLASHING ANY CUSTOM KERNEL/RECOVERY/ROMS will flip the knox flag.
now we can use the native sprint hotspot mod! pretty much my reason for going through this. ( a mj4 odex version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46980618#post46980618)
you may need to turn on usb debugging mode also.especially for methods below.
you can turn on usb debugging mode here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468680
IF YOUR ALREADY ON MJ4:
the method above will not work for you.
you will not be able to downgrade to run the vega files.
at least until samsung releases a mj4 upgrade.
for now your best option might be an app called kingoroot but beware it may be dangerous from a security pov (http://www.no links please) (thanks @cherylbaker @dallastx for testing for us)
another option may be using vroot tool . (once again you will need to google it do not post links. please.) (thanks @cyphol post #190 with instructions on how to use a few posts later)
Thanks a mil for testing
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bit will be 0x1
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Well that's crap. Figured flashing the official samsung package would allow me to downgrade to MI3 without flipping the flag.
Anyone know how to downgrade mi5 to MI3 without tripping knox?
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Actually, I misread the question. I haven't tried this to verify. I am not sure. Sorry for misinformation
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Actually, I misread the question. I haven't tried this to verify. I am not sure. Sorry for misinformation
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It happens. Thanks.
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Half tempted to try this
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Half tempted to try this
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Yea I'm downloading it now. Ultimate goal is. Go back to MI3 use the VEGA knox safe root. Spoof the system status with xposed and see if I can get the ota.
In theory that gives me root with knox 0x0 and mi5 but no one has tried yet I guess.
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mjcollum said:
Yea I'm downloading it now. Ultimate goal is. Go back to MI3 use the VEGA knox safe root. Spoof the system status with xposed and see if I can get the ota.
In theory that gives me root with knox 0x0 and mi5 but no one has tried yet I guess.
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Be sure to let us know how it goes. I would be interested in following this route
http://swappa.com/listing/ZZV485/view
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Be sure to let us know how it goes. I would be interested in following this route
http://swappa.com/listing/ZZV485/view
note 2 for sale
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Will do. Probably be tomorrow at some point. Another hour on the stock MI3 files. And a couple hours on the VEGA stuff. Hopefully will be all ready when I get up.
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mjcollum said:
Will do. Probably be tomorrow at some point. Another hour on the stock MI3 files. And a couple hours on the VEGA stuff. Hopefully will be all ready when I get up.
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im doing this right now.
it has been reported the knox safe boot works on sprint.
i can confirm 100% that a downgrade back to mi3 using the official sammy files will not trip knox.
didnt even wipe my data so far.
will report back shortly with more info and if all is successful a short tut.
can now report for 100% knox safe root has worked.
now to see about xposed and the ota.
xposed let me set status back to official! update downloaded!
Bummer! appears updating looses root. resets status to custom.
however knox still 0x0 and everything works so far.
ill mess around for a bit and see what i can come up with.
So i guess the way to go with this right now would be to just downgrade to mi3.
root with vega.
(optionally install exposed)
and just don't update to mi5.
since mi5 doesn't really effect much at the moment this shouldn't be a problem.
MI5 Enhancements/Fixes
- Voicemail audio restored when connected to Galaxy Gear (I DON'T HAVE A GEAR so no worries for me)
- Restriction to benchmark sites removed (I don't care about benchmarks)
Important Notes
- Software version is MI5
- Refer to the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Software Update article in Support for install instructions
mjcollum said:
im doing this right now.
it has been reported the knox safe boot works on sprint.
i can confirm 100% that a downgrade back to mi3 using the official sammy files will not trip knox.
didnt even wipe my data so far.
will report back shortly with more info and if all is successful a short tut.
can now report for 100% knox safe root has worked.
now to see about xposed and the ota.
xposed let me set status back to official! update downloaded!
Bummer! appears updating looses root. resets status to custom.
however knox still 0x0 and everything works so far.
ill mess around for a bit and see what i can come up with.
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See if OTA Root Keeper still works. In fact, SuperSU Pro might also have the root preservation option. Downgrade to MI3, the knox safe root, OTA Root Keeper or SuperSU Pro, set device status to official, take OTA, get root back. See how that goes
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See if OTA Root Keeper still works. In fact, SuperSU Pro might also have the root preservation option. Downgrade to MI3, the knox safe root, OTA Root Keeper or SuperSU Pro, set device status to official, take OTA, get root back. See how that goes
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your a genius i completely forgot about ota rootkeeper and didnt think about checking su pro! be trying this shortly.
Edit:
OTA rootkeeper does not work on 4.3
reports are supersu pro's rootkeeper doesn't work on 4.3 either but i'll give it a shot anyway.
edit 2:
Supersu pro doesn't appear to keep root either
was worth a shot.
surely this will all be solved at some point.
for now im just happy to have root with no flipped flags.
and the ability to return to stock if needed.
mjcollum said:
im doing this right now.
it has been reported the knox safe boot works on sprint.
i can confirm 100% that a downgrade back to mi3 using the official sammy files will not trip knox.
didnt even wipe my data so far.
will report back shortly with more info and if all is successful a short tut.
can now report for 100% knox safe root has worked.
now to see about xposed and the ota.
xposed let me set status back to official! update downloaded!
Bummer! appears updating looses root. resets status to custom.
however knox still 0x0 and everything works so far.
ill mess around for a bit and see what i can come up with.
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So your back where you started Except now you are custom .. bunmer
http://swappa.com/listing/ZZV485/view
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cherylbaker said:
So your back where you started Except now you are custom .. bunmer
http://swappa.com/listing/ZZV485/view
note 2 for sale
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Yea. But if you flash the official mi3 update everything returns to stock official. Then can re root again. Just don't accept the ota.
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mjcollum said:
Yea. But if you flash the official mi3 update everything returns to stock official. Then can re root again. Just don't accept the ota.
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Held out this long will hold out and see if they do Vega due mi5 and how stable Things look. Lots of people keep losing root. I suspect we are going to need more than what we are doing right now. There seems to be something in the phone deleting super user. .
http://swappa.com/listing/ZZV485/view
note 2 for sale
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Held out this long will hold out and see if they do Vega due mi5 and how stable Things look. Lots of people keep losing root. I suspect we are going to need more than what we are doing right now. There seems to be something in the phone deleting super user. .
http://swappa.com/listing/ZZV485/view
note 2 for sale
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Yea I just couldn't wait any longer.
Everything seems ok here though.
Have flashed back and for between hacked and stock a handful of times testing things out. Haven't had a single fc. Root appears stable through multiple reboots.knox intact.i guess will see for sure over next couple days. I don't feel like I'm missing anything by skipping the mi5. Other than getting the hot spot working. But I'm sure that's doable also. Will keep updated on progress.
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Have you flashed a custom ROM? Or Feeza's stock after going through thus process? We're there any issues?
Thanks again for the tip!
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Have you flashed a custom ROM? Or Feeza's stock after going through thus process? We're there any issues?
Thanks again for the tip!
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Flashing a custom recovery\kernel will flip the knox flag.so I have not.
If you want custom rooms you'd be better using the cf auto root and TWRP recovery. However that would flip the knox flag.
I mostly see this as a temporary hold over to keep knox intact until everything gets figured out.
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Cool...thanks again for the advice! Starting to get that flashohalic itch again...lol...not sure I can hold out until they figure out all of these annoyances.
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Can someone advise on the ota update.. I don't quite understand entirely boot loaders and such.. My note 2 is stock rooted. I don't think I will ever Change roms, but I want to stay rooted.
What is the verdict for someone like me? I do not want to block ota then miss other important updates, but I do not want to lose root either.
Please advise.
Again, sorry for such a basic question. I am still transistioning from iPhone world
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crash613 said:
Can someone advise on the ota update.. I don't quite understand entirely boot loaders and such.. My note 2 is stock rooted. I don't think I will ever Change roms, but I want to stay rooted.
What is the verdict for someone like me? I do not want to block ota then miss other important updates, but I do not want to lose root either.
Please advise.
Again, sorry for such a basic question. I am still transistioning from iPhone world
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Just block it. Sure devs will find a way to root and unlock again soon. At that point, you can restore the SDM 1.0 and get later updates if you need them.
You're sure to lose root within 5 days if you don't.
Ok, based on what you say you don't want to rom but you want root. That is where I am. There is an app called voodoo ota rootkeeper in the play store. It is free. Install it and use it to backup root. Take the update and use voodoo to restore root.
That will get you root and a locked bootloader. Which is where I read you want to be. But remember you may be stuck with a locked bootloader forever.
That said consider this. Pass on the update for now. You can always update to it later to get the next update. By waiting you keep your options open and miss nothing.
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Ok, based on what you say you don't want to rom but you want root. That is where I am. There is an app called voodoo ota rootkeeper in the play store. It is free. Install it and use it to backup root. Take the update and use voodoo to restore root.
That will get you root and a locked bootloader. Which is where I read you want to be. But remember you may be stuck with a locked bootloader forever.
That said consider this. Pass on the update for now. You can always update to it later to get the next update. By waiting you keep your options open and miss nothing.
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Good advice. This is my plan as well.
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Thank you both for the quick replies. I think that is what I am going to do. Block it for now, using titanium. Then wait and see.
I am going to look in to that other program though. Right now I feel I will always want to reman stock-rooted, but who knows... No point in closing that door forever.
Just so I have this straight..... Using titanium I backed up the sdm 1.0 file, then in the same screen I click on it and choose delete? That's it? Thanks for being patient with me.
crash613 said:
Thank you both for the quick replies. I think that is what I am going to do. Block it for now, using titanium. Then wait and see.
I am going to look in to that other program though. Right now I feel I will always want to reman stock-rooted, but who knows... No point in closing that door forever.
Just so I have this straight..... Using titanium I backed up the sdm 1.0 file, then in the same screen I click on it and choose delete? That's it? Thanks for being patient with me.
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Yes, although I believe it's "Un-install", not delete. You could freeze it as well, if you have the paid for version.
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I have a Note 2 that was rooted using a root-injected stock OS. Unfortunately, the OTA got me this morning and I have lost root. At the following link several folks have replied that they were able to get their Note 2's rooted after the OTA. What do you guys think? I don't want to brick my phone but I sure need Root-Explorer and Titanium Backup.
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-note-2-root/how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-note-2-sch-i605/
Guitar4Him said:
I have a Note 2 that was rooted using a root-injected stock OS. Unfortunately, the OTA got me this morning and I have lost root. At the following link several folks have replied that they were able to get their Note 2's rooted after the OTA. What do you guys think? I don't want to brick my phone but I sure need Root-Explorer and Titanium Backup.
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-note-2-root/how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-note-2-sch-i605/
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I can now confirm that, if you have a rooted, stock Note II and lose root through the OTA, you can go the Odin route with a rooted stock image and successfully root the device. Additionally, if you install Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper after rooting the device, you can then, do the OTA and restore root using the Voodoo app. Instructions and files are available at:
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I can confirm that a handy dandy combination of:
1. Deferring the update
2. Rooting via ExynosAbuse
3. Backing up root via Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper
4. Updating
will maintain root with the latest Verizon Galaxy Note 2 update.
I am now I605VRALL4and my Device Status says "Normal" since I haven't flashed anything.
y8s said:
I am now I605VRALL4and my Device Status says "Normal" since I haven't flashed anything.
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I did what you did and I am modified. I did the light sabre mod. But I don't think that would do it.
Edit......reboot and mine is back to normal.
Sorry for this stupid question but I cant find how to root my note 3 with Sprint without tripping knox or voiding the warranty. I've done so much searching but I only found one root method which is the Kingo app but I heard its not approved by XDA mods because it steals personal information from the phone. Please help
I have never tried the chainfire method of rooting so far. I've only tried kingo. I cannot report on other methods. I cannot verify on the accusations of stealing information either. I can vouch that kingo does not trip the Knox counter. That is all I have to report. Sorry if that is no help.
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I have never tried the chainfire method of rooting so far. I've only tried kingo. I cannot report on other methods. I cannot verify on the accusations of stealing information either. I can vouch that kingo does not trip the Knox counter. That is all I have to report. Sorry if that is no help.
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Thanks for your reply. Do you know if I install the custom recovery like twrp or clockwork does that trip the knox counter with the kingo root method?
alikhan2004 said:
Thanks for your reply. Do you know if I install the custom recovery like twrp or clockwork does that trip the knox counter with the kingo root method?
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Custom recovery trips Knox. King usually doesn't but can.
What he said. Recovery is what sets off the Knox e-fuse.
Well that's crap. I'm on MI3 unrooted. Should I update and root or root and flash deodexed update? I've been unsure and hesitant to ask but the thread is here so, lol.
I'm on MJ4 and I'm out of luck period. At least for now.
alikhan2004 said:
Sorry for this stupid question but I cant find how to root my note 3 with Sprint without tripping knox or voiding the warranty. I've done so much searching but I only found one root method which is the Kingo app but I heard its not approved by XDA mods because it steals personal information from the phone. Please help
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They don't know what the info is used for. So its kinda like be safer then sorry. Me personally i use it and everything is just fine. 1000's of other have used it as well. In today's world everything is out there for thieves to use against you.
Yes you dont want to just give it to them but rest for sure if you bank with a major bank you have no worries. I bought a ps4 off amazon. The next day i had a charge from some other state at walmart for $42.00! Called Wellsfargo and they put the money back in my account.
Just keep up with your credit scores and financial transactions as all Americans should be doing anyways.
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Custom recovery trips Knox. King usually doesn't but can.
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Ok so let me get this straight if I root my device and install a custom recovery like TWRP or clockwork it will trip knox?
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What he said. Recovery is what sets off the Knox e-fuse.
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You sure? Because I want to flash a custom rom but dont want to trip knox.
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They don't know what the info is used for. So its kinda like be safer then sorry. Me personally i use it and everything is just fine. 1000's of other have used it as well. In today's world everything is out there for thieves to use against you.
Yes you dont want to just give it to them but rest for sure if you bank with a major bank you have no worries. I bought a ps4 off amazon. The next day i had a charge from some other state at walmart for $42.00! Called Wellsfargo and they put the money back in my account.
Just keep up with your credit scores and financial transactions as all Americans should be doing anyways.
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Well said...I know I'm not the only person that used the software but at the same time I don't want to go through the whole hassle of disputing activities on my credit report or bank accounts. I will hold off a little longer for some other root method to come out. Do you know if the Root de la Vega is available for Sprints Note 3?
Like we said, kango root won't trip Knox. Adding custom recovery will. If you are determined to run a custom ROM, then you will have to install a custom recovery to flash it and that recovery will trip Knox.
I used the chain fire method on the MJ4 update and had no issues. Going to have to trip Knox though. But look around, no one is having problems with sprint with Knox tripped except for a few unlucky people and they go to a different store and problem is solved.
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Like we said, kango root won't trip Knox. Adding custom recovery will. If you are determined to run a custom ROM, then you will have to install a custom recovery to flash it and that recovery will trip Knox.
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Gotcha..Thank You just wanted to clarify before I install a custom rom.
I used Wanam and faked the status back to official. Looks like nothing ever happened...
this is it.. got my note 3.. and i want to uninstall those unnecessary apps.. from what ive search.. i need to root the phone.. my plan is root the phone using kingo and then install titanium backup.. and uninstall those unnecessary apps.. i can install any apps just not custom roms right, so i will not trip the knox?? thanks in advance
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this is it.. got my note 3.. and i want to uninstall those unnecessary apps.. from what ive search.. i need to root the phone.. my plan is root the phone using kingo and then install titanium backup.. and uninstall those unnecessary apps.. i can install any apps just not custom roms right, so i will not trip the knox?? thanks in advance
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Correct, but I would recommend that you deep-six the idea of uninstalling any system apps (honestly, it can cause some serious problems with your device). Best to freeze them using TiBu. Your phone has a ton of system space, and deleting apps can lead to undesired results, with no upside.
Any app that can be frozen from app manager should be done from there first (select disable). The rest, use the freeze option from TiBu (Sprint Zone, Connection Optimizer).
Do one or two at a time, then reboot. See if your phone locks up after some use. If no issues, freeze another clutch of apps. If you do run into trouble, thawing the app is your next move.
I hope this helps.
Good luck!
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Correct, but I would recommend that you deep-six the idea of uninstalling any system apps (honestly, it can cause some serious problems with your device). Best to freeze them using TiBu. Your phone has a ton of system space, and deleting apps can lead to undesired results, with no upside.
Any app that can be frozen from app manager should be done from there first (select disable). The rest, use the freeze option from TiBu (Sprint Zone, Connection Optimizer).
Do one or two at a time, then reboot. See if your phone locks up after some use. If no issues, freeze another clutch of apps. If you do run into trouble, thawing the app is your next move.
I hope this helps.
Good luck!
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oohh okies thanks for the advice.. will do that instead of uninstalling.. yeah.. disable should be free some of the ram usage thanks..
alikhan2004 said:
Sorry for this stupid question but I cant find how to root my note 3 with Sprint without tripping knox or voiding the warranty. I've done so much searching but I only found one root method which is the Kingo app but I heard its not approved by XDA mods because it steals personal information from the phone. Please help
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let me make it simple for you. just search "How to root note 3 without tripping knox" on utube. you will find a video newly added (in April) about it. it has full tutorial performed on camera.
hope it helps
rooting new 4.4.4 NH7 without tripping knox tmobile m919 model
Looking for stwp by step directions on how to pull this off.
You can still use towelroot, but you need to flash back the 4.4.2 NB4 stock kernel through odin. After rooted reflash the new 4.4.4 NH7 stock kernel. There you go, rooted NH7 knox 0x0.
Hey everyone, I have a question...so I rooted my phone a couple of months ago and never got around to installing a custom rom. So as of right now I have the stock 4.3 (sch-i545), I never done anything besides rooting it. I just received an update for the stock rom and my question is, could I just update it while my phone is rooted without voiding the warranty and or bricking it? Much obliged for your time
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
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If all you did was rooted, and didn't delete any apps, make any changes to files, etc., it should work. It won't brick your phone if it doesn't work, it will just reboot and tell you it failed.
Sir_Eagle said:
If all you did was rooted, and didn't delete any apps, make any changes to files, etc., it should work. It won't brick your phone if it doesn't work, it will just reboot and tell you it failed.
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My understanding was that you need to be absolute stock to take an OTA. Have you seen anyone say they've been able to OTA a rooted phone?
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joshm.1219 said:
My understanding was that you need to be absolute stock to take an OTA. Have you seen anyone say they've been able to OTA a rooted phone?
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Can't say for sure if I have. Never heard of anyone that rooted and didn't make any kind of change either.
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Can't say for sure if I have. Never heard of anyone that rooted and didn't make any kind of change either.
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If all you did was root the phone, you will be able to OTA... BUT,
This OTA update will install NC5 on your phone and add the lovely Knox warranty void as well.
As far as I can tell, at this time, therd is NO way of rooting the Verizon S4 after updating to NC5.
If you look under "About Phone, Status.. Device Status, if it says OFFICIAL, you'll be good to go for OTA.
But remember... no Rooting under the new OTA with verizon, until one of the XDA Genius finds a solution for us zombies.
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If all you did was root the phone, you will be able to OTA... BUT,
This OTA update will install NC5 on your phone and add the lovely Knox warranty void as well.
As far as I can tell, at this time, therd is NO way of rooting the Verizon S4 after updating to NC5.
If you look under "About Phone, Status.. Device Status, if it says OFFICIAL, you'll be good to go for OTA.
But remember... no Rooting under the new OTA with verizon, until one of the XDA Genius finds a solution for us zombies.
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I tried to OTA on rooted phone and it failed.
Don't like to do a factory reset, so I basically only want an OTA update. Cant stick anymore as my phone is driving me nuts, my phone screen keeps on going black and locking every few seconds when I wake the screen from sleep
ch.ch1 said:
I tried to OTA on rooted phone and it failed.
Don't like to do a factory reset, so I basically only want an OTA update. Cant stick anymore as my phone is driving me nuts, my phone screen keeps on going black and locking every few seconds when I wake the screen from sleep
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Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
You can go to MK2; the latest version of Jellybean.
You can then either root and stay there.
You can root, install safestrap then go to a rooted KitKat (NC5) and keep the MK2 bootloader.
You can ignore all rooting and mods and take the OTA and go to a crippled NC5 with no root.
Hope that helps.
yupp
joshm.1219 said:
My understanding was that you need to be absolute stock to take an OTA. Have you seen anyone say they've been able to OTA a rooted phone?
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Yeah I used the OTA update and my phone was rooted. Also every time I turn(ed) on my phone it says samsung custom with an unlock this is on 4.4.2 and on 4.3 before. I checked to see if I have root, but I don't. Also superuser is still installed, says I don't have root (obviously). Except the weird thing is, that it says samsung custom still, and on the isis mobile wallet it says I cant use it because my device is rooted. I also used root checker to see if I was to double check and it says I'm not. I'm really confused... but hey at least the OTA update worked, i just cant wait to get root again because I will miss all my rooted apps. I didn't check to make sure they developed root either. which sucks but whatever.
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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Confirmed. Just ODIN'd back to MJ3 from the VRUAND3 update and regained root using Saferoot.
seriously whaaat can u post the needed files and step by step directions ive never used odin before
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mrraya said:
seriously whaaat can u post the needed files and step by step directions ive never used odin before
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207&nocache=1
Be sure to thank @droidstyle for taking the time to make this guide
Another confirmation, Odin'd back to MJ9 from ND3 then used saferoot to root.
Can also confirm working for me and rooted also. Does anyone know how we can stop the OTA notification or do we just ignore it?
stop the ota notification note 2
Ostate24 said:
Can also confirm working for me and rooted also. Does anyone know how we can stop the OTA notification or do we just ignore it?
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Change
FWupgrade.apk to FWupgrade.bak
SDM.apk to SDM.bak
I am not allow to post a link at this time so do a search on "stop the ota notification note 2"
Regain root, ND3 question,Correct MJ9, ODIN7
gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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This is what I have been looking for except it says to "REGAIN" root.. I have never had it (ROOT) to start with.. So will this still work?
and
where do I get the correct MJ9 since I did not get it off my phone before I lost it.?? or am I ODIN back to out of the box state which is VRALJB?
Odin 7 or Odin 9
I have read ODIN7 ? but Odin9 is newest as far as I can tell...want to double check.
thanks so much!!!!
mrraya said:
seriously whaaat can u post the needed files and step by step directions ive never used odin before
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thebat1 said:
This is what I have been looking for except it says to "REGAIN" root.. I have never had it (ROOT) to start with.. So will this still work?
and
where do I get the correct MJ9 since I did not get it off my phone before I lost it.?? or am I ODIN back to out of the box state which is VRALJB?
Odin 7 or Odin 9
I have read ODIN7 ? but Odin9 is newest as far as I can tell...want to double check.
thanks so much!!!!
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thebat1, since I am assuming you are on bootlocked ND3 from your screenshot, you will mess up/brick your phone trying to flash VRALJB. You can only go back to MJ9 at this point. The thread I used which is the same posted by iooooooc -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4207&nocache=1 says "4.1.1 VRALJB- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2043636 (Unless you purchased your device within the first month of release and never took the OTA update, DO NOT use this)".
I am pretty sure it doesn't matter if you rooted under MJ9 or not. I was able to Odin without root and I wouldn't see why not being rooted when on MJ9 would not enable you to use Odin (since the whole point of Odin is to flash Samsung phones). I'd make a Helium backup just in case though.
You can read the thread I linked and posted by iooooooc to find out how to reflash. It's the same one I used. It has links to Odin and the MJ9 firmware (look for "VRUEMJ9 4.3" with the warning "ONLY USE THIS IF YOU TOOK THE 4.3 OTA!!") and the PIT file you'll need.
You can also read about and get links to all flavors of Odin (you need v3.07 for the VZ Note II) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...08-2013-odin-3-09-odin-1-85-versions-t2189539
Finally, to root, here's the main thread for Saferoot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Everything I read is pretty straightforward.
I also haven't received any notification to upgrade back even though I haven't used the .bak renaming method which is interesting.
Worked great!!!! Thanks for the links guys!!!
Worked Here Too!
gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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I decided to bite-the-bullet after reading your post, and all I had to do was re-root as well. All said and done it took me 30 minutes tops to have my phone back. I also used Kingo last time, but after ND3, the version of Kingo I used to root MJ9 didn't recognize the phone and the latest version was so full of dire warnings I immediately aborted.
Thanks guys!
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I decided to bite-the-bullet after reading your post, and all I had to do was re-root as well. All said and done it took me 30 minutes tops to have my phone back. I also used Kingo last time, but after ND3, the version of Kingo I used to root MJ9 didn't recognize the phone and the latest version was so full of dire warnings I immediately aborted.
Thanks guys!
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I just received a replacement for my broken Note 2, which I previously had rooted with N3bula. To root my old phone, given it came with 4.1, I just had to Odin the MJ9 files, and then flash N3bula with TWRP . When I got my replacement, it updated to ND3 before I realized what was going on. Does anyone know what files I actually need to flash to get back to MJ9 from ND3? I found a file called I605VRUEMJ9.tar on one of the links posted recently. Since the actual ROM on the phone is the stock 4.3 rom, I assume I don't need to worry about system.img. I don't know about boot.img, cache.img, recovery.img, sboot.bin. I am confident I should flash tz.img, modem.bin, hidden.img.
Thanks!
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gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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Is there a particular reason you wish to use safestrap rather than continuing to use Kingo? Is Kingo not working?
Thx!!
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Worked great!!!! Thanks for the links guys!!!
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thebat1, since I am assuming you are on bootlocked ND3 from your screenshot, you will mess up/brick your phone trying to flash VRALJB. You can only go back to MJ9 at this point. The thread I used which is the same posted by iooooooc -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4207&nocache=1 says "4.1.1 VRALJB- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2043636 (Unless you purchased your device within the first month of release and never took the OTA update, DO NOT use this)".
Neither of those links are good.
Thanks!!
@Skilover
If you go to Droidstyle's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34891181 , and then go to section 1b of the guide, you can revert back to MJ9 by following the guide's instructions. You'll want to use the stock file for (VRUEMJ9 4.3) if you're wanting to revert back from ND3.
After you get back to MJ9, you can get root access with saferoot..... Here's the link to saferoot-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=48392009
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Amazing..WTG, XDA!
New user here. Been reading a bunch of posts lately as I finally got around to trying to root my SCH-1605, which I have through VZW. For a long time, my big concern was interference on the VZW side. Finally, warranties expired and the urge peaked... just in time for the ND3 OTA update. I tried a couple of methods I found - no success. Finally stumbled on some threads that basically said - ND3 = Out of Luck.
Then I found this post.. :victory:
Truly awesome. Worked like a charm. Looking up good info on locking down the OTA pushes next.
My observations of the differences between my previous attempts and what was missing:
My first attempts:
I neglected to include the 16GB PIT file referenced in the links above (** Note: a few guides I popped across mentioned making sure that only "Auto Reboot" and "F. Reset Time" are checked. When you include the PIT file, it will auto-check "Re-Partition". I left this checked, and it worked like a charm. Can't speak as to the offset of UNchecking this, as - like I said - I left it checked)
I used a different .md5 file that would flag as a fail despite my efforts (I was using a CF autoroot md5). I'm fairly certain this failed due to the OTA update, though it may have been the lack of a PIT file. If someone could provide some more info there, I'm totally open to listen!
Bottom line - my experience was pretty painless after doing adequate research. Thanks a ton! :highfive:
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I also came across some info stating that the downgrade to the MJ firmware might flag the KNOX (I believe?) or a similar issue. Anyone run across any of those issues using these methods? If someone has a quick link to how I could check this for myself, I'd be very appreciative.
@Tangescence
Glad to hear you had success with rooting . This link should help you check on your knox counter status:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48758233&highlight=odin#post48758233
If "Knox Warranty Void" is at zero, you didn't trip the counter.
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Knox warranty void: 0
Confirmed. The flashback left KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0
Lists as Samsung Official Binary with a System Status of Custom.
Looks good!
I know this is a bit of a side tangent, but safestrap should work with MJ9 and saferoot to allow custom ROMs despite the locked bootloader - right?
Again, many thanks to the community!
Right, safestrap was designed to be used for people with the locked bootloader on a rooted MJ9. Here is the safestrap thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51616723
I don't know a lot about safestrap, but I believe the ROM slots are not working yet so you'll have to install a custom Rom over the stock ROM if you want to use it. You'll have to do more research to make sure you know how to use it if you want to give it a go.
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mattnmag said:
Right, safestrap was designed to be used for people with the locked bootloader on a rooted MJ9. Here is the safestrap thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51616723
I don't know a lot about safestrap, but I believe the ROM slots are not working yet so you'll have to install a custom Rom over the stock ROM if you want to use it. You'll have to do more research to make sure you know how to use it if you want to give it a go.
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Awesome - I'll be researching it tonight and tomorrow. Will post to the safestrap thread with my results and probably a heads up here to redirect. Again, tons of thanks!
Confirmed working
My Verizon Note 2 broke so under warranty I got a replacement device with the latest VRUAND3 build installed. It literally drove me nuts because I was so used to having the advantage of a rooted device with the bootloader unlocked. After doing some research, I came across the information on this thread and it helped me with having at least root access which allows me to take advantage of my Titanium Backup and other apps tailored to rooted devices.
Thank you very much for this post. I hope the devs will one up on Verizon and give the community the ability to have a unlocked bootloader soon. I like the connection speed and coverage with Verizon but their method of controlling how their customers use their devices is just annoying. I paid good money for this phone Verizon! I'm going to do what I wish to do with it to make it unique and personal to me. They just don't seem to understand that. Once again... Thanks. ROOT 4TW!
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thebat1, since I am assuming you are on bootlocked ND3 from your screenshot, you will mess up/brick your phone trying to flash VRALJB. You can only go back to MJ9 at this point. The thread I used which is the same posted by iooooooc -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4207&nocache=1 says "4.1.1 VRALJB- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2043636 (Unless you purchased your device within the first month of release and never took the OTA update, DO NOT use this)".
I am pretty sure it doesn't matter if you rooted under MJ9 or not. I was able to Odin without root and I wouldn't see why not being rooted when on MJ9 would not enable you to use Odin (since the whole point of Odin is to flash Samsung phones). I'd make a Helium backup just in case though.
You can read the thread I linked and posted by iooooooc to find out how to reflash. It's the same one I used. It has links to Odin and the MJ9 firmware (look for "VRUEMJ9 4.3" with the warning "ONLY USE THIS IF YOU TOOK THE 4.3 OTA!!") and the PIT file you'll need.
You can also read about and get links to all flavors of Odin (you need v3.07 for the VZ Note II) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...08-2013-odin-3-09-odin-1-85-versions-t2189539
Finally, to root, here's the main thread for Saferoot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Everything I read is pretty straightforward.
I also haven't received any notification to upgrade back even though I haven't used the .bak renaming method which is interesting.
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Pretty easily done with Odin and TWRP.
ALERT! This will void whatever warranty you have. Also, I am not at fault if your phone comes to life..... or dies.
Just need to download Odin (there are forums all over for finding the files.)
Download the TWRP recovery flash file:
http://dl.twrp.me/hltespr/twrp-2.8.6.1-hltespr-4.4.img.tar
Download Chainfire's SuperSU and copy to SD card:
http://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip
Power off phone entirely.
Hold Volume down + home and power the device on, then press Volume up to confirm entering Download Mode.
Open Odin.
Connect Phone to computer.
Wait for drivers to install if not already. May need to obtain Samsung USB drivers (http://androidxda.com/download-samsung-usb-drivers)
When the box shows "COM #", click the PDA button and select the TWRP image file you downloaded. (or other recovery).
Uncheck "Auto Reset"
Click Start.
Once finished, disconnect device.
PULL BATTERY
Power into Recovery first thing first by holding Volume up + Home. (failure to do so will result in the stock recovery being flashed back on boot by the phone)
Recovery will autopatch the ROM to prevent the stock recovery from being rewritten on reboot. (or should)
From inside your recovery, flash the SuperSU update zip.
Reboot and enjoy root!
(I had to try a couple of times through trial and error to get it to stick)
Thank you.
Thank worked like a charm!
Worked first time. Thanks!
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Does doing it this way trip Knox? I read the part about voiding your warranty. I know by having root it voids Samsung warranty.
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rbaucom said:
Does doing it this way trip Knox? I read the part about voiding your warranty. I know by having root it voids Samsung warranty.
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It does from what I can tell. A stock ROM flash should be able to reset Knox, it did for me, but varied results from other threads on these forums.
Greaper88 said:
It does from what I can tell. A stock ROM flash should be able to reset Knox, it did for me, but varied results from other threads on these forums.
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Wow your the first person that I have read that was able to reset a blown an efuse American sprint note 3 Knox that way.
I'm reluctant to try it.
And thinking about it it looks like that yes it would looks like it needs a a non stock recovery.
I'll wait.
Looks like we are about to have a deodexed stock rom with root about to drop. From the other thread post in here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3104033
Stock rooted ROMs
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Just to clarify. Once KNOX is tripped there is no reseting it unless the insides are swapped out. When you trip KNOX you blow an e-fuse which is non reversible. However there are ways of upgrading and keeping root without tripping knox, but thats has nothing to do with this
May is Motorcycle Awarness Month. Sent from my Galaxy Note 3
elwood said:
Just to clarify. Once KNOX is tripped there is no reseting it unless the insides are swapped out. When you trip KNOX you blow an e-fuse which is non reversible. However there are ways of upgrading and keeping root without tripping knox, but thats has nothing to do with this
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so tripping KNOX and blowing the e-fuse is bad, right? so what happens after? does the phone self destruct? and is there a way around it?
agentcelsius said:
so tripping KNOX and blowing the e-fuse is bad, right? so what happens after? does the phone self destruct? and is there a way around it?
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It's only bad if you care about warranty. Once rooted it will show 0x1 in Download Mode. A Samsung repair Tech or Sprint Repair Tech can see that and refuse to fix your phone
By replying to this post, you acknowledge that you have read and understand the OP including all links included in OP.. Sent from my Galaxy Note 3
very good
Sprint doesn't care. It's more on Samsung go site. Never had a issue with Knox tripped with sprint.
Sent from my 0x1 Note 3...... I love tep
Got root
Worked a treat on my Note 3 SM-9005 Lollipop, took 1st time no probs.
Knox is tripped but what the hell, I've been living with the stock build up until the Lollipop update.
works fine
I recently upgraded to ok2, and used this same procedure to reroot my phone successfully.
Coming from JellyBean MJ4 firmware would it be safe to flash the pre-rooted OK2 through TWRP?
Flashed fine from NAB and seemed functional enough but I wasn't happy with the Lollipop UI. Reverted to NK4.
Thanks worked from OK2 Stock.
One question... Can I use another SU application? I was trying to use an old wireless tethering application but it is asking me if I am rooted and won't start.
Titanium backup runs fine and says I have root, as does Root Checker.
If not, does anyone have a working wireless tethering application for their Note 3?
yarmock said:
Thanks worked from OK2 Stock.
One question... Can I use another SU application? I was trying to use an old wireless tethering application but it is asking me if I am rooted and won't start.
Titanium backup runs fine and says I have root, as does Root Checker.
If not, does anyone have a working wireless tethering application for their Note 3?
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I use Wi-Fi tether router. It's about $3 and works beautifully. (It does license check I believe)
They haven't updated their language to include lollipop, but as a general rule, whatever it says to do for kitkat will work on lollipop. Under "Configure Router," they have a link to the website with a list of configurations. Just follow that, and you should be good. One thing that I would add is to leave the "lte tether patch" unchecked.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.snclab.wifitetherrouter
You could try finding a newer superuser zip to flash in recovery. I do know that a couple of older ones gave that issue. I personally didn't have any luck with another supersu app, but the last time I tried a different one was on kitKat.