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Hello DuuDe's! 'Sup!?
I know, every device(CellPhone) is best at one department, but i wanna Know: (3 Questions)
1-Wich is the best Device With 512mb of RAM?
2-Wich is the best Device With 768mb of RAM?
3-Wich is the best Device With 1024mb of RAM?
I wanna know all these 3 segments.
The device im seeking, is one that No matter what App or Game i "Trow" to it, it execute it Flawlessly.
And I know, i cant install like 300k apps because that loads the device and lags it, but i know the Ext2/3/4 partition Trick
NOTE: Really dont care too much if its LTE enable or not. If price difference is considerable for just Having LTE i may discard it... All because in my country LTE will arrive in 2016 if not latter :'(
Anyway, if you guys help me with that, I Will be Thankfully
Cheers!
LG Optimus Speed, HTC Sensation, Samsung Galaxy S2
I'd definitely say, the best smartphone (also because it has 1GB RAM) is the Galaxy S2 which runs super smooth and should handle every apps flawlessly (just for some Tegra games you need to install chainfire but the 1.2GHz Dual Core Chip plus Hardware acceleration is awesome).
The number of devices with 768MB RAM isn't that big either, I'd choose the HTC Sensation which also has a 1.2 GHz dual core processor and nice screen and built quality, maybe runs a tiny bit worse that the S2 but it is definitely a great phone which also probably handles apps and games without problems.
The number of devices with 512 MB RAM is endless and the qualities of these devices depend on many things.
They usually handle applications and games (also 3d ones) as they are menu to be- all which is more a matter of the used processor. The best chip in a 512MB RAM phone is in the LG Optimus speed I think (Nvidia Tegra2, dual core) which runs very nice, also with high end Tegra optimized 3d games, and the OS will be even faster if you install CM7. The speed is pretty cheap for a dual core phone btw.
Hope this helps.
Arjoma said:
I'd definitely say, the best smartphone (also because it has 1GB RAM) is the Galaxy S2 which runs super smooth and should handle every apps flawlessly (just for some Tegra games you need to install chainfire but the 1.2GHz Dual Core Chip plus Hardware acceleration is awesome).
The number of devices with 768MB RAM isn't that big either, I'd choose the HTC Sensation which also has a 1.2 GHz dual core processor and nice screen and built quality, maybe runs a tiny bit worse that the S2 but it is definitely a great phone which also probably handles apps and games without problems.
The number of devices with 512 MB RAM is endless and the qualities of these devices depend on many things.
They usually handle applications and games (also 3d ones) as they are menu to be- all which is more a matter of the used processor. The best chip in a 512MB RAM phone is in the LG Optimus speed I think (Nvidia Tegra2, dual core) which runs very nice, also with high end Tegra optimized 3d games, and the OS will be even faster if you install CM7. The speed is pretty cheap for a dual core phone btw.
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Thanks men, i see more clear now.
The HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio, its worth to expect the release of it?
What do you say? Should i spect 2012 for buy the phone?
All those 3 options, or any Dual-Core phone will last 2 year flawless on executing Apps?
I ask because, i see how the phone world is evolving... Like Gaming on PC, in 6 month u cant play the last games... I don't want giving 500/600 and in 1 year or less i have to change it, cuz lag/Don't Execute
2 years is a very long time
It's impossible to pretend how the whole thing will develop in two years, it's just certain that we will at least have Quadcore chips then (Nvidia's quadcore processor will probably come in the first quarter of 2012 and the devices a little later). And I'm pretty sure that there will be games optimized for this Nvidia chipset which may not run anywhere else- like it's today with the Tegra2. But the number of those games is relatively small (at least now) and most current 3d games with nice graphics van be played on current (or even >1 year old 1GHz) phones, look at the SE Xperia play!
The Sensation XE is no bad choice (1.5GHz Dual Core Snapdragon, 768MB of RAM, but that isn't that hugely important for the choice of games). If you can get it for a good price you won't buy a bad phone with a powerful processor- although I think I'd still prefer the Galaxy S2.
I really can't guarantee that a phone you but today will do everything a new phone maybe be able to do in two years, I'm even sure that a 2013/2014 device will be able to handle things a 2011 phone won't but you shouldn't be too sad about that. The device will still run well in two years and it will probably run 97% of all available games- but I still can't look into the future.
I don't know how long you want to wait with the purchase of your next phone, in a few months there will be certainly better phones- e.g. the next Nexus will be unveiled in some days, not sure what to expect from it, also the price of current flagships will drop.
What might be great for you if you love gaming would be a successor to the Xperia Play but I haven't heard anything about it yet.
Hey, im still debating the idea of getting an S3, ive got the SGS1 :O im still perfectly content with it. ive heard numerous amount of complaints that the TW Launcher has to reload after using the S3 for things such as gaming and intense web browsing. And considering the fact that the USA variant of the S3 has 2GB of Ram im worried whether in a few months time the International S3 will be lacking in terms of Ram, LG already announced their 2GB phone (although LG are so crappy in terms of software, i doubt it will even be as fast as the S2 -.-, no offence to any LG fans, just kidding there aren't any )
On a serious note though, im guessing most of the high end phones within the upcoming months will have 2GB Ram standard, and the fact that so many people are having Ram issues with TW is making me doubt whether i should get an S3 or wait for the next powerhouse of a phone with an A15 chip and 2GB of Ram. Is this merely just a software bug? Or is the Ram actually struggling to keep up? ive seen similar problems with the One X. Although ive heard that it has been fixed, which is a good sign. And tbh, although the Exynos Quadcore is badass, i dont think its very balanced, the S4 chip in the US variant of the One X is damn fast and im guessing its going to be the same in the S3, in most cases it even keeps up with Quad core, and 2GB of Ram and Dual core processor sounds abit more efficient than a crazy Quad-core chip and merely 1GB of RAM. i dont really think Quad core will catch on, apart from the HOX and S3 i think every other phone will move towards the S4 chip and later A15 chips. Which leads me to believe that the S3 will be horribly underpowered (in terms of RAM) compared to phones later on in the year, and baring in mind that ive still got an S1. i like my phones to still be keeping up for atleast 2 years before they show signs of slow down. it seems as though the S3 is a beast in some aspects and weak in others. No hate for it by the way incase some [email protected]$$ decides to say "GTFO STOP HATING ITS THE BEST PHONE IN THE WORLD" It will still be an absolutely amazing phone regardless...
Specifically I wonder from a development standpoint do you expect to see modifications and features within roms that cater specifically to those with the extended 2GB memory models?
It seems one would be able to change the memory management values of ICS and allow the OS to use much more memory, shutting down background processes less often, etc.....thus providing more performance.
It seems to me that having that much memory should inspire some never before seen development.
It will change nothing. Even 1gb is enough.
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It will change nothing. Even 1gb is enough.
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really? enough to function but perhaps with 2GB of ram your operating system won't have to shut down background processes as often resulting in a more responsive experience? custom roms and apps could easily be written to use that extra memory. and you think that will have zero effect?
interesting
jamesnmandy said:
really? enough to function but perhaps with 2GB of ram your operating system won't have to shut down background processes as often resulting in a more responsive experience? custom roms and apps could easily be written to use that extra memory. and you think that will have zero effect?
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I think people like you would have never felt the necessity of a 2gb if phone companies like sammy didnt introduce that concept. And the very fact that you know nothing about how it can benefit deving, proves it. I personally always have 250mb ram free and I cant imagine how to use it all. Higher ram will have an impact yes on apps, will give them the chance to be even crappier since they wont have to worry how much ram the app will use because your device will have 2gb anyways which is a lot. Take the exanple of facebook apk; now it takes 100mb. Every time u update it thr crappier it gets from ram usage point of view. And in mh opinion the higher the ram in our devices, the crappier the apks will be.
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I think people like you would have never felt the necessity of a 2gb if phone companies like sammy didnt introduce that concept. And the very fact that you know nothing about how it can benefit deving, proves it. I personally always have 250mb ram free and I cant imagine how to use it all. Higher ram will have an impact yes on apps, will give them the chance to be even crappier since they wont have to worry how much ram the app will use because your device will have 2gb anyways which is a lot. Take the exanple of facebook apk; now it takes 100mb. Every time u update it thr crappier it gets from ram usage point of view. And in mh opinion the higher the ram in our devices, the crappier the apks will be.
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Totòòò said:
I think people like you would have never felt the necessity of a 2gb if phone companies like sammy didnt introduce that concept. And the very fact that you know nothing about how it can benefit deving, proves it. I personally always have 250mb ram free and I cant imagine how to use it all. Higher ram will have an impact yes on apps, will give them the chance to be even crappier since they wont have to worry how much ram the app will use because your device will have 2gb anyways which is a lot. Take the exanple of facebook apk; now it takes 100mb. Every time u update it thr crappier it gets from ram usage point of view. And in mh opinion the higher the ram in our devices, the crappier the apks will be.
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well i guess its a good thing I don't install crapware or use facebook?
Your point about it allowing poorly written code to continue to be junk can equally be expressed as saying it will allow custom roms and well-coded apps to utilize more memory and in turn perform better.
It could also have some applications when considering running alternative operating systems like linux. Certainly a completely different operating environment would be able to benefit from more memory.
I think this device sets a precedent and will influence devices to come. I don't understand your comment about " very fact that you know nothing about how it can benefit deving, proves it"? I never claimed to know anything about "deving".
I would say we will sooner see people wanting to move to 2GB of memory than we will see people complaining that they have 2GB of memory and really want to downgrade. Progress....you're right, had Samsung never added it, we wouldn't know but I have a feeling we will soon.
Man... this is the 3rd time I'm posting abotu this to you, but this time I will show you screen shots of my HOX and another users HOX.
The S4 was given 2gigs of ram because the Adreno and 4G LTE Radio requires quite a bit of ram to function properly. They take up about 400 mbs, so Sammy didn't want to only leave 600mb of ram to system cache and Touchwiz or whatever UI launcher you choose to use.
THis is a mistake that HTC made, and that's why the HOX and EVO 4G LTE suffers from multitasking issues.
Attached below, Tegra 3 has dedicated video ram, Adreno does not.
SlimJ87D said:
Man... this is the 3rd time I'm posting abotu this to you, but this time I will show you screen shots of my HOX and another users HOX.
The S4 was given 2gigs of ram because the Adreno and 4G LTE Radio requires quite a bit of ram to function properly. They take up about 400 mbs, so Sammy didn't want to only leave 600mb of ram to system cache and Touchwiz or whatever UI launcher you choose to use.
THis is a mistake that HTC made, and that's why the HOX and EVO 4G LTE suffers from multitasking issues.
Attached below, Tegra 3 has dedicated video ram, Adreno does not.
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just FYI, you aren't obligated to post the same thing over and over, but thanks for "enlightening me"
Totòòò said:
I think people like you would have never felt the necessity of a 2gb if phone companies like sammy didnt introduce that concept. And the very fact that you know nothing about how it can benefit deving, proves it. I personally always have 250mb ram free and I cant imagine how to use it all. Higher ram will have an impact yes on apps, will give them the chance to be even crappier since they wont have to worry how much ram the app will use because your device will have 2gb anyways which is a lot. Take the exanple of facebook apk; now it takes 100mb. Every time u update it thr crappier it gets from ram usage point of view. And in mh opinion the higher the ram in our devices, the crappier the apks will be.
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This has to be a joke. Are you kidding me? You really think adding more ram is a bad thing? Well, people like me did see the need for extra ram in this gen of phones. I wasn't going to buy the S3 until they released the specs with 2gb of ram. That sealed the deal for me. Just because the International version doesn't have the extra ram doesn't mean those that are getting the LTE variant are idiots.
The man asked a question, if you can offer no help then move on and don't post.
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SlimJ87D said:
The S4 was given 2gigs of ram because the Adreno and 4G LTE Radio requires quite a bit of ram to function properly. They take up about 400 mbs, so Sammy didn't want to only leave 600mb of ram to system cache and Touchwiz or whatever UI launcher you choose to use.
THis is a mistake that HTC made, and that's why the HOX and EVO 4G LTE suffers from multitasking issues.
Attached below, Tegra 3 has dedicated video ram, Adreno does not.
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This is exactly right. The constant reloading with the One X LTE variant is extremely annoying. Props to Samsung for doing the right thing. I am impressed.
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americasteam said:
This is exactly right. The constant reloading with the One X LTE variant is extremely annoying. Props to Samsung for doing the right thing. I am impressed.
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Honestly, we will have to wait and see. There are other reasons why Android kills apps. Don't forget how Android works, it fills up ram to work faster. Here's my analysis.
1. Facebook in the cache has about 20 mb of ram. I have 200 mb of ram free. I open facebook and it is 40mb of ram, but I have 180mb of ram free still. So not as much RAm is being taken up as we think.
2. A launcher is always running and RAM is always dedicated to it. Along with hat RAM, CPU usage as well.
3. Building off of 2, it can be quite possible that Android is programmed to suspend or close down apps to preserve CPU usage. So we can't blame it completely on the RAM just yet. In the case of the HOX we could because the HOX was running almost as much RAM as 512 mb ram android phones.
I bet RAM will help the US version be able to open up maybe 2 more apps than the international version, but Samsung will program it to still close the programs to down clock our CPUs to around 200 to 800 mhz so that our battery doesn't drain.
Imagine if you have to choose between battery or extreme multitasking? Imagine if you tried to do both, multitasking while running the CPUs at 800 mhz each! The phone would still lag regardless if you have 2gbs of RAM or not.
But what do I know? I'm just a Mechanical and Materials Engineer... Computer Science, Electrical and Computer engineering is way out of my league. It's just my hunches though, don't take them as facts.
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This has to be a joke. Are you kidding me? You really think adding more ram is a bad thing? Well, people like me did see the need for extra ram in this gen of phones. I wasn't going to buy the S3 until they released the specs with 2gb of ram. That sealed the deal for me. Just because the International version doesn't have the extra ram doesn't mean those that are getting the LTE variant are idiots.
The man asked a question, if you can offer no help then move on and don't post.
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Nobody called him an idiot. Why do you connect the 2gb ram with lte? Tmobile has no lte and is still getting 2gb ram. My whole point was that most users wont need 2gb ram. Still that doesnt mean 2gb ram is useless. It is a very good thing. Right now I have the intl version and I also have the att one x which has a s4 processor and lte and I dnt notice any speed differences so I guess there is more benefit having a 2gb ram rather than a quadcore processor.
As we all know, the international sgs3 variant has a quad core processor and 1gb of RAM. Some variants however have 2gb ram. I really can't understand why Samsung didn't just make 2gb`s the standard in the first place.
I understand that currently its enough but it doesn't seem `future proof`. How plausible would adding another gb of ram be? Would it be possible?
I have a feeling the process would be extremely complicated and getting hold of the actual ram chip would be quite a mission. Still I think it would be interesting to know if and how this might be possible.
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How future proof do you want it? Its going to be a few years before 2GB of RAM is the norm and a few more before that is the requirement... If ever.
I wish everyone would chill out about RAM. 1GB is not only enough. It is more than enough and will be for as long as we all have the device.
There is no current need and no forseeable need for more RAM. Its not like windows where if you keep throwing RAM at it, it gets faster and faster.
mits101 said:
As we all know, the international sgs3 variant has a quad core processor and 1gb of RAM. Some variants however have 2gb ram. I really can't understand why Samsung didn't just make 2gb`s the standard in the first place.
I understand that currently its enough but it doesn't seem `future proof`. How plausible would adding another gb of ram be? Would it be possible?
I have a feeling the process would be extremely complicated and getting hold of the actual ram chip would be quite a mission. Still I think it would be interesting to know if and how this might be possible.
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STOP WITH THE RAM QUESTIONS. You have NOTHING to worry about. The US version has 2GB of RAM because it physically NEEDS it. The international version does NOT.
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1gb is more than enough for ICS and probably Jellybean so nothing to worry about, and anyway Samsung don't like to update phones more than 18 months old so future proofing's a bit of a moot point.
what is going on here? samsung is going to launch a galaxy s III with a quad-core processor, 4G LTE and a huge 2GB RAM in Korea!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why they are doing this? why we are not getting these super features with the International version of galaxy s III?
sumouktick said:
what is going on here? samsung is going to launch a galaxy s III with a quad-core processor, 4G LTE and a huge 2GB RAM in Korea!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why they are doing this? why we are not getting these super features with the International version of galaxy s III?
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1. Most countries aside from the US and Canada (and countries in Asia) don't have LTE.
2. The 2GB of RAM is negligible unless you're a super-multitasker.
3. The way they got the LTE radio to work with the Exynos is by separating it from the SoC, which will result in very poor battery life. In the US models, which also do LTE and have 2GB of RAM, the phone uses the Snapdragon S4 SoC, not Exynos, which results in better battery life at the loss of raw power.
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1. Most countries aside from the US and Canada (and countries in Asia) don't have LTE.
2. The 2GB of RAM is negligible unless you're a super-multitasker.
3. The way they got the LTE radio to work with the Exynos is by separating it from the SoC, which will resort in very poor battery life. In the US models, which also do LTE and have 2GB of RAM, the phone uses the Snapdragon S4 SoC, not Exynos, which results in better battery life at the loss of raw power.
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what do you think? will 2GB RAM boost the speed of s III? mean, will it help to run high graphics games smoother than the International version of s III?
No
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This completely uninformed and un-knowledgeable post makes me sad
RAM does not affect speed positively, only negatively if you have too little (like if you tried running Ice Cream Sandwich on a G1/HTC Dream). RAM only affects the amount of applications you can have open at once, which is not a huge deal given that 1GB of RAM is a lot already, and Android (which is Linux) has fantastic memory management.
Now, I know you're going to go into your Task Manager and then come here and post, "BUT I ONLY HAVE LIKE _____ MB RAM FREE!". In Linux, free RAM is wasted RAM; the OS will load applications into memory to fill it up BUT that doesn't mean they're running. They'll start up faster when you use them, but they won't use battery when you're not. So even if you got the 2GB version, most of it would still be filled by the OS.
bortak said:
This completely uninformed and un-knowledgeable post makes me sad
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Are you here now too
Get used to it. Sgs3 forum manages to knock down the average xda iq quite a bit.
Not so much a dig at this op... this is quite mild
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bortak said:
This completely uninformed and un-knowledgeable post makes me sad
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are you asking me to inform you before posting a thread????????
Product F(RED) said:
RAM does not affect speed positively, only negatively if you have too little (like if you tried running Ice Cream Sandwich on a G1/HTC Dream). RAM only affects the amount of applications you can have open at once, which is not a huge deal given that 1GB of RAM is a lot already, and Android (which is Linux) has fantastic memory management.
Now, I know you're going to go into your Task Manager and then come here and post, "BUT I ONLY HAVE LIKE _____ MB RAM FREE!". In Linux, free RAM is wasted RAM; the OS will load applications into memory to fill it up BUT that doesn't mean they're running. They'll start up faster when you use them, but they won't use battery when you're not. So even if you got the 2GB version, most of it would still be filled by the OS.
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thanks for your information. I've got it now.:good: can you please make me understand that how samsung make a 4G LTE supported quad-core processor in a short time?
Normally, everything (RAM, CPU, GPU, DAC, Radios) are on one chip called an SoC (System on a Chip). Samsung put a separate 4G LTE radio in the phone, which talks to the SoC when it's being used. To clarify, when you say Exynos, you're talking about the SoC; that's what Samsung's is called. Snapdragon and Tegra III are other SoC's. But anyways, they put a separate (not on the SoC) LTE radio in there to make them be able to talk to each other, BUT it results in much less battery life since the phone has to power several components at once instead of one chip with everything on it.
This isn't the first time they've done this. The Tab 7.7 on Verizon (4G LTE) here in the US has the same Exynos dual-core as the Galaxy S II, but it has separate radio as well. The separate 4G LTE radio must have its own co-processor of some kind to process the information that the Exynos can't.