Functionality without unlocked bootloader - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im getting an Atrix tomorrow nothing has been done to it should i update the software on phone and then root or vice versa? Can i do all this without an unlocked bootloader? Im not looking to flash any roms or CWM.

You can root it without unlocking
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And i can overclock too meaning set cpu like no frills to 400`s min to 1.00 max for a little more speed?

cell2011 said:
And i can overclock too meaning set cpu like no frills to 400`s min to 1.00 max for a little more speed?
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It might be possible, but from what i've seen thats a kernel related issue. To flash a new kernel, you need to unlock.
May i ask why you don't want to unlock?
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Well if its rooted it should be able to do no frills and adjust cpu. Thats really all i want to do

cell2011 said:
Well if its rooted it should be able to do no frills and adjust cpu. Thats really all i want to do
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Yes, but you can't overclock the stock kernel. just underclock it

Then what is the deal with people that rooted and not unlocked and flash recovery and roms from rom manager?

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Then what is the deal with people that rooted and not unlocked and flash recovery and roms from rom manager?
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Its an exploited weakness in the system that rom manager uses. Its like the A2, and in my side job device, the DX, bootstrap can be used. I'm not sure if there's an official bootstrap for the 4G though. But like i said, it gets into the system and exploits a weakness and installs a new recovery. You then reboot into recovery from rom manager to install a custom rom
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Ty what i meant is cant i just root from one click root and then install CWM from Rom manager.without unlocking bootloader?

cell2011 said:
Ty what i meant is cant i just root from one click root and then install CWM from Rom manager.without unlocking bootloader?
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I don't see why not. I've never done it like that with the 4G, but it should be possible
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That is impossible. Where did you see that?
Maybe you need to do more research.

The HD can so shouldnt this be able to? Also i think i could root this and no frills on this and set min in the 400`s and max 1.0 of course. Is this possible without BL

Don't compare. Atrix was/is an experiment from motorola. It has very unique things that atrix 2 and atrix hd don't have.
Edit: again, you can do whatever you want with stock kernel, except overclocking it.
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benefit of unlocked bootloader

hi guys
i'm just wondering what would be the true benefit of an unlocked bootloader, since we can still use the same roms using cobrato's method?
while i want to try it, it seems that the x10's unlocked bootloader still have limitations ie kernels need to flashed and also irreversible.
are there much tangible benefits, ie better performance?
thanks
I just love the boot screen of custom kernel ;D
shubu000 said:
hi guys
i'm just wondering what would be the true benefit of an unlocked bootloader, since we can still use the same roms using cobrato's method?
while i want to try it, it seems that the x10's unlocked bootloader still have limitations ie kernels need to flashed and also irreversible.
are there much tangible benefits, ie better performance?
thanks
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the benefit is using custom kernel...custom kernel is smooth than stock...
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jiawei0309 said:
the benefit is using custom kernel...custom kernel is smooth than stock...
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hi jiawei,
thanks for getting back to me, but when you say custom kernel smoother than stock, do you mean just any? or custom kernels with an unlocked bootloader?
thanks
shubu000 said:
hi jiawei,
thanks for getting back to me, but when you say custom kernel smoother than stock, do you mean just any? or custom kernels with an unlocked bootloader?
thanks
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use doom kernel v6-FS and use setcpu n set to lagfree...it iz smoother...but u need to unlock ur bootloader
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[Q] Rooting att atrix 4G 2.3.6

my friend wants me to root his atrix 4g which is running android version 2.3.6 stock. And his phone has never been rooted and the bootloader is still locked. I know that I would have to unlock the bootloader. But how would I go about rooting it after I've unlocked bootloader? please someone help
Ps. Already have moto drivers installed because I have a moto xoom
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If you are gonna unlock the bootloader, then you would probably be looking to load a custom ROM. That's really the only reason for unlocking the BL.
After your BL is unlocked, many custom ROMs (like CM7) come with root privileges already...
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ccrows said:
If you are gonna unlock the bootloader, then you would probably be looking to load a custom ROM. That's really the only reason for unlocking the BL.
After your BL is unlocked, many custom ROMs (like CM7) come with root privileges already...
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Yes im planning to flash a custom rom. So I could just unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery, and then flash a custom rom that is pre-rooted?
Because that's what I did when I rooted my xoom.
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i just got a warranty replacement, and it had 2.3.6 on it.
i had to do alot of research. they have a rooting guide via adb on the atrixforum website
and the automatic bootloader unlock in the atrix development thread in xda works.
due note that alot of the NEW atrix's with 2.3.6 dont have the ability to flash sbf, which means the bootloader is unable to be unlocked. Mine worked, so i might have just been lucky
sgtkid12 said:
Yes im planning to flash a custom rom. So I could just unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery, and then flash a custom rom that is pre-rooted?
Because that's what I did when I rooted my xoom.
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If you go custom ROM, then ya Root is usually built in. CM7 I know has it...
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ccrows said:
If you go custom ROM, then ya Root is usually built in. CM7 I know has it...
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Alright. Thanks for the help.
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Punkrocknerd said:
i just got a warranty replacement, and it had 2.3.6 on it.
i had to do alot of research. they have a rooting guide via adb on the atrixforum website
and the automatic bootloader unlock in the atrix development thread in xda works.
due note that alot of the NEW atrix's with 2.3.6 dont have the ability to flash sbf, which means the bootloader is unable to be unlocked. Mine worked, so i might have just been lucky
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Oh man. Thanks for the info. Hopefully mine works too
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Punkrocknerd said:
i just got a warranty replacement, and it had 2.3.6 on it.
i had to do alot of research. they have a rooting guide via adb on the atrixforum website
and the automatic bootloader unlock in the atrix development thread in xda works.
due note that alot of the NEW atrix's with 2.3.6 dont have the ability to flash sbf, which means the bootloader is unable to be unlocked. Mine worked, so i might have just been lucky
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I wonder why Motorola would do such a thing unless they had some sort of contract agreement with the carriers?
All I know is when the BL code leaked, Motorola scrambled insanely fast to try and cover that up, but it was too late. Truth be told, if the BL code never got leaked I would have sold my phone a long time ago. IDK, for me personally I'm probably gonna make it a personal requirement for all my future phones to have BL unlocked before purchasing...
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ccrows said:
I wonder why Motorola would do such a thing unless they had some sort of contract agreement with the carriers?
All I know is when the BL code leaked, Motorola scrambled insanely fast to try and cover that up, but it was too late. Truth be told, if the BL code never got leaked I would have sold my phone a long time ago. IDK, for me personally I'm probably gonna make it a personal requirement for all my future phones to have BL unlocked before purchasing...
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But I can still unlock the boot loader, right?
Edit: I unlocked the boot loader and rooted the phone successfully
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Can anyone put the link up on dropbox for me?
What link? And why are you bumping an ancient thread?
Rooting
I hope this is the right place to put this .
What are the pro's and con's of rooting the atrix ?

Lapdock HDMI mirror on unlockable Atrix?

hi ^^
is there a way to perform a HDMI mirror with a lapdock but on a Atrix with an unlockable bootloader (means no other ROMs..)
I wouldn't mind if I had to disable webtop (but don't want to delete it).
I'd like to play games,watch movies etc. on it but in webtop the Atrix is too slow
Edit: Bootloder is LOCKED , no custom ROMs for me
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Try Cynogenmod stable Rom its got mirroring option enable it and you can see your phone through LCD TV I do the same for games.
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As I already wrote, I have an unlockable bootloader : can't flash custon ROMs..
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you mean you have an LOCKED bootloader, an unlocked bootloader would allow you to flash a custom rom.
Anyway, there's a post somwhere in the forums which discuss how to enable hdmi..mirroring on any rom... im on my..phone so i can't find it right now
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andresrivas said:
you mean you have an LOCKED bootloader, an unlocked bootloader would allow you to flash a custom rom.
Anyway, there's a post somwhere in the forums which discuss how to enable hdmi..mirroring on any rom... im on my..phone so i can't find it right now
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No guys, he has an Unlockable bootloader (that can't be unlocked), a lot of people got phones which can't be unlocked from Motorola since some months ago.
Don't know how to help you there, buddy
andresrivas said:
you mean you have an LOCKED bootloader, an unlocked bootloader would allow you to flash a custom rom.
Anyway, there's a post somwhere in the forums which discuss how to enable hdmi..mirroring on any rom... im on my..phone so i can't find it right now
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yes, sorry if I didn´t write it right, my bootloader is LOCKED and I can´t unlock it (newer Atrix)
it would be nice if someone could post that thread
edit: if you mean this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472382 then I think it won´t work because it´s for Wet Dream and DarkSide
actually, i was reffering to the parent thread, this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348692 ( i guess)
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You can try unzipping the .zip and copying the files manually whilst remembering to back up any replaced files. I can't offer any promises though as I haven't taken a look at any of the files. Plus, as stated in the thread, instabilities can happen when flashing the zip so make sure you can recover any changes you make. Not having cmw is a *****...
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I hate it too nit being able to unlock my bootloader and install custom roms..
what could happen to my phone? ( worst case scenario ... )
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RaZoR No1 said:
I hate it too nit being able to unlock my bootloader and install custom roms..
what could happen to my phone? ( worst case scenario ... )
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Worst case? You end up with a hi-tech brick

Quick question, set cpu etc apps and locked bootloader?

If the phone only has root access but standard rom and kernel and locked bootloader, will cpu apps still work?
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Ben36 said:
If the phone only has root access but standard rom and kernel and locked bootloader, will cpu apps still work?
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yes but with you can't overlocked it
So it can be used to change governors still?
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Ben36 said:
So it can be used to change governors still?
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If there a different govs in the stock kernel yes... and tegrak (paid version) you can actually overclock the stock kernel although I wouldn't recommend it....
Thanks, just sorting my mum's U out, but didn't wanna unlock the bootloader. Root is enough
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Moto E Lte XT1538

Sorry if it's a duplicate but can the bootloader be unlocked on the xt1528?? Ordered one, won't be here till Thursday.
Sorry for the tittle error, can't change it
No.
divineBliss said:
No.
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Alright. What about root? Custom rom via safestrap or bootstrap? Anything? Lol
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Temp root via Kingroot, but you don't get /system write access. No perm root, no full root, no ROMs, no bootloader unlock, etc
Thanks guys
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xtermmin said:
Temp root via Kingroot, but you don't get /system write access. No perm root, no full root, no ROMs, no bootloader unlock, etc
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I noticed something under Developer Options, *OEM Unlocking* Does that mean in the future Motorola will allow it?? I wish because with stock rom, it doesn't have much ram available. Well either way my sister will be happy, lol. Again thanx for your replies.
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Josephdbrewer25 said:
I noticed something under Developer Options, *OEM Unlocking* Does that mean in the future Motorola will allow it?? I wish because with stock rom, it doesn't have much ram available. Well either way my sister will be happy, lol. Again thanx for your replies.
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Motorola does allow it. VZW and ATT are the reason their versions are locked down. Sprint/TMo/USCellular/international are all unlockable via moto.
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