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I rooted my phone yesterday with casual, twrp all that stuff. I had installed a few apps to explore the perks of being rooted. I had backed up with twrp. Looking at my storage and noticed a large amount of memory used in my miscellaneous section. So I went into it and deleted everything....I think thats where I messed up. My phone still works fine. Just no photos. I had very important pictures of my son on my phone. I tried using a recovery app.root to recover them but it said I had no FAT files. Any help on what I can do will be greatly appreciated
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I rooted my phone yesterday with casual, twrp all that stuff. I had installed a few apps to explore the perks of being rooted. I had backed up with twrp. Looking at my storage and noticed a large amount of memory used in my miscellaneous section. So I went into it and deleted everything....I think thats where I messed up. My phone still works fine. Just no photos. I had very important pictures of my son on my phone. I tried using a recovery app.root to recover them but it said I had no FAT files. Any help on what I can do will be greatly appreciated.
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I've read in elsewhere that miscellaneous storage is actually the aggregation of various types of files including media. So if you were able to delete miscellaneous files then perhaps that's why you would have deleted the photos.
Ok. Do you know if there is a way to recover those deleted files?
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jt_lipka said:
Ok. Do you know if there is a way to recover those deleted files?
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Just searched "undelete files" at Google Play and this came up:
Undelete for Root Users
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Install
Undelete for Root Users
Undelete for Android is an application for root users that allows you to recover any deleted files from your SD card or internal storage. LOOK IN "UNDELETE" FOLDER FOR FILES. With support for over 1000 file types, ...
Tried that. Got an error message on startup after grant root permissions. It said it appears I have no FAT file system storage and if I know I do then I can send log to them and after I hit ok it exits out of the app...
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Tried that. Got an error message on startup after grant root permissions. It said it appears I have no FAT file system storage and if I know I do then I can send log to them and after I hit ok it exits out of the app...
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I would suggest you send the log to them. I would check in their release notes to see which "FAT" formatting they support. Some may support exFAT while others may support FAT32. Depending on how you're formatted, you may or may not meet their spec. I know this is always a big issue for kernels as well, as some kernels can recognize ext2/3/4/5 and FAT32 but not exFAT.
Hi people, I rooted my girlfriends galaxy ace & put link2sd on it to transfer as many apps as possible to free up internal memory which left her with about 45mb to play with & 2gb external sd space, I now have a problem, last night I made the mistake of downloading an official update for it & it failed instalation because the phones rooted (obviously :crying which I stupidly forgot! The problem I now have is that the failed update @ 30.1mb is hogging up the memory again with the usual "low on internal space" error residing in status bar! I managed to delete a few unneeded apps & now have about 21mb space & no warning but the failed update is still there somewhere on the internal memory & I want to find & delete it if I can using root explorer! Can someone give me its location where it's residing to delete it, or can I only use manage applications in settings to do this & delete the data in software updates? & will that give me back the space it took!?
TIA!
Anyone??
Try clearing the cache of the programs. U can use "Apps2sd" or "Titanium Backup" to clear cache and move some of the apps to sd card to free space.
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Try clearing the cache of the programs. U can use "Apps2sd" or "Titanium Backup" to clear cache and move some of the apps to sd card to free space.
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I've moved most apps to sd using link2sd as previously stated in my first post, & I've cleared the cache of most programs also
The problem lies with the update that I downloaded which failed to install because of the device being rooted, it's residing in internal memory still taking up 30.1mb of space! I just need to delete it somehow but don't know where to look for it!?
The problem lies with the update that I downloaded which failed to install because of the device being rooted, it's residing in internal memory still taking up 30.1mb of space! I just need to delete it somehow but don't know where to look for it!?
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I can update apps even after rooting.
And I think everyone here can.
Gaining root access to the phone won't affect ur app update.
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amogh420 said:
I can update apps even after rooting.
And I think everyone here can.
Gaining root access to the phone won't affect ur app update.
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he isn't talking about updating apps, he is talking about updating firmware..
if phone is rooted, then ota update will fail..!!
if internal memory is around 30 mb then it is normal (i think, but not sure)
still u can try to wipe cache and dalvik cache through cwm..
or just simply update the firmware through odin...
and restore all app via titanium backup :thumbup:
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srt99 said:
he isn't talking about updating apps, he is talking about updating firmware..
if phone is rooted, then ota update will fail..!!
if internal memory is around 30 mb then it is normal (i think, but not sure)
still u can try to wipe cache and dalvik cache through cwm..
or just simply update the firmware through odin...
and restore all app via titanium backup :thumbup:
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Thanks for making that point yep the free internal memory that is left is around 28mb now, but only because I uninstalled some more apps after the update failed! I've cleared caches & dalvik cache but if I were to find & delete the failed update, I'd gain another 30mb (totalling 60mb free space!)
I think I'll just unroot it, install the ota update then root it again if I can't find where it's residing & delete it! I'm not too keen on using odiin although I have in the past on my S2 with no problems, I prefer ota or mobile odin (mobile odin doesn't support the galaxy ace unfortunately!) or cwm recovery firmware instalations!
Thanks for your reply! :good:
srt99 said:
he isn't talking about updating apps, he is talking about updating firmware..
if phone is rooted, then ota update will fail..!!
if internal memory is around 30 mb then it is normal (i think, but not sure)
still u can try to wipe cache and dalvik cache through cwm..
or just simply update the firmware through odin...
and restore all app via titanium backup :thumbup:
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Ohh
I thought he meant the update of Link2SD failed. Lol.
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Cant find failed update
amogh420 said:
Ohh
I thought he meant the update of Link2SD failed. Lol.
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Hi
I have same problem firmware update failed and I had unrooted my phone before I started update I have now lost 50mb (app) of internal storage.
You make a good point CrackDaddy "where does firmware updates reside after downloading" I have used Link2sd and Titanium to try and find this failed download but just can't find it, knowing the firmware file name or the format that it may be would help cos I have probably seen it and did not realise.
I hope some member can help us.
There is no firmware file, the firmware is like a custom rom. So there are multiple files which atayed in /system after the failed download (correct me if I'm wrong). The solution is to flash a firmware through Odin.
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Android-fany said:
There is no firmware file, the firmware is like a custom rom. So there are multiple files which atayed in /system after the failed download (correct me if I'm wrong). The solution is to flash a firmware through Odin.
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Thanks for info android-fany
I was hoping the failed download would be in one place and not multiple files.
So installing updated firmware via Odin would remove / fix failed firmware and correct the storage problem ?
And can we download and install updated firmware via Odin when phone is rooted or does the phone need to be unrooted before download / install of updated firmware ??
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Thanks for info android-fany
I was hoping the failed download would be in one place and not multiple files.
So installing updated firmware via Odin would remove / fix failed firmware and correct the storage problem ?
And can we download and install updated firmware via Odin when phone is rooted or does the phone need to be unrooted before download / install of updated firmware ??
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it is fine if u flash fw through odin on a rooted phone..
so dont worry..just flash it :thumbup:
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Thanks for info android-fany
I was hoping the failed download would be in one place and not multiple files.
So installing updated firmware via Odin would remove / fix failed firmware and correct the storage problem ?
And can we download and install updated firmware via Odin when phone is rooted or does the phone need to be unrooted before download / install of updated firmware ??
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Yes, does installing new firmware overwrite or add to the system file storage space problem
After all, I'm not as concerned about having new firmware custom or official on the phone, as I am about gaining the space back, ( it's not my phone ) so potentiality all I have to do is partition the sd card to fix the space problem, although the failed update files wiould still remain in the system!
Ok so I am in the exactly the same boat; rooted my GT-S5830i on stock rom and stupidly yesterday I downloaded a 30.14mb update which failed after installing 25% of it and now my internal memory is 30mb less!!! =( (if only I had known before hand you can't update a rooted phone!!)
Researching told me that OTA updates where stored in the cache so I tried wiping the cache in recovery and no joy. Using my ES File Explorer app the following folders show...
/data/cache/ is empty!
/cache/lost+found/ is empty!
/cache/recovery/ has a file called "last_log" which is only 7.23KB not 30mb! =(
So it would seem the failed update installed and as said above is in the system folders, so I guess unless I was told every single file/folder name and went and deleted them all all,. the only other way to get back the 30mb of internal memory would be to flash my phone back to the stock rom correct?
I really didn't want to muck about with flashing, I'm a total noob and tbh it scares me in case I muck it up and also then there is warranty issues, doesn't flashing make the bootload value increase each time, thus voiding your warranty if the value is not at the stock value of 0?! I decided to root my phone with the understanding that if I did need to do a warranty claim I could reload the bloatware apps, factory reset the phone and then unroot it thus putting it back to stock mode and more importantly the bootload value will remain the same as the phone has not been flashed!
So I am put off tbh if the only way for me to get my 30mb of internal space back is to flash it with the stock rom! =(
Does anyone know where the 30mb of files are and what they are called? Maybe it is just one file and not a lot because I understand now that when you do an OTA update it downloads the update but before installing checks the system's files and folders to check every is 100% stock and that the stock apps are there before installing the update. Well surely because this check failed on my phone then it didn't install the update and with any luck the 30mb download is still in one file?!
lol sorry to go on, this has really annoyed me, especially the fact that since it has happened yesterday I have literally spent about 7 hours on and off researching this on the net etc! =(
Thanks for your help,
James =)
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Ok so I am in the exactly the same boat; rooted my GT-S5830i on stock rom and stupidly yesterday I downloaded a 30.14mb update which failed after installing 25% of it and now my internal memory is 30mb less!!! =( (if only I had known before hand you can't update a rooted phone!!)
Researching told me that OTA updates where stored in the cache so I tried wiping the cache in recovery and no joy. Using my ES File Explorer app the following folders show...
/data/cache/ is empty!
/cache/lost+found/ is empty!
/cache/recovery/ has a file called "last_log" which is only 7.23KB not 30mb! =(
So it would seem the failed update installed and as said above is in the system folders, so I guess unless I was told every single file/folder name and went and deleted them all all,. the only other way to get back the 30mb of internal memory would be to flash my phone back to the stock rom correct?
I really didn't want to muck about with flashing, I'm a total noob and tbh it scares me in case I muck it up and also then there is warranty issues, doesn't flashing make the bootload value increase each time, thus voiding your warranty if the value is not at the stock value of 0?! I decided to root my phone with the understanding that if I did need to do a warranty claim I could reload the bloatware apps, factory reset the phone and then unroot it thus putting it back to stock mode and more importantly the bootload value will remain the same as the phone has not been flashed!
So I am put off tbh if the only way for me to get my 30mb of internal space back is to flash it with the stock rom! =(
Does anyone know where the 30mb of files are and what they are called? Maybe it is just one file and not a lot because I understand now that when you do an OTA update it downloads the update but before installing checks the system's files and folders to check every is 100% stock and that the stock apps are there before installing the update. Well surely because this check failed on my phone then it didn't install the update and with any luck the 30mb download is still in one file?!
lol sorry to go on, this has really annoyed me, especially the fact that since it has happened yesterday I have literally spent about 7 hours on and off researching this on the net etc! =(
Thanks for your help,
James =)
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Firstly if you flash through CWM recovery & not odin your flash/binary count remains at 0, & you can easily reset the binary counter with a single click anyway if you ever needed your warranty, right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647703
Secondly as Android-fany has stated in his post, a failed update resides in the /system as multiple files & not a single file, so unless you flash either an official or custom rom/firmware, then you have no other options available, other than partitioning your sd card to make more space on internal memory!
& thirdly flashing roms/firmware REALLY isn't that difficult, look in the dev section & read the tutorials to the letter, then you should have no worries! (just remember to flash the CORRECT rom/firmware) official or custom for your particular device/model!)
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Firstly if you flash through CWM recovery & not odin your flash/binary count remains at 0, & you can easily reset the binary counter with a single click anyway if you ever needed your warranty, right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647703
Secondly as Android-fany has stated in his post, a failed update resides in the /system as multiple files & not a single file, so unless you flash either an official or custom rom/firmware, then you have no other options available, other than partitioning your sd card to make more space on internal memory!
& thirdly flashing roms/firmware REALLY isn't that difficult, look in the dev section & read the tutorials to the letter, then you should have no worries! (just remember to flash the CORRECT rom/firmware) official or custom for your particular device/model!)
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I did a factory reset and all is good after reinstalling all my downloaded apps and putting all my settings/texts/contacts etc back on the phone, I now have 42mb more internal memory, since the failed OTA update =)
lcrjames said:
I did a factory reset and all is good after reinstalling all my downloaded apps and putting all my settings/texts/contacts etc back on the phone, I now have 42mb more internal memory, since the failed OTA update =)
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If you did a factory reset then you should have rooted & partitioned your sd card before you put everything back on mate
as you're only gonna be in the same predicament sometime soon, either through apps, msg's, media or yet another failed update taking your space!
Unfortunately the internal memory on the galaxy ace sucks period!
You can't have many apps on it then, or anything else for that matter!
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If you did a factory reset then you should have rooted & partitioned your sd card before you put everything back on mate
as you're only gonna be in the same predicament sometime soon, either through apps, msg's, media or yet another failed update taking your space!
Unfortunately the internal memory on the galaxy ace sucks period!
You can't have many apps on it then, or anything else for that matter!
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Yeah I need to get round to partitioning my 16gb SD card (10gb is free) so all my apps are installed on that, don't suppose you know any simple guides? At the mo I am still forcing apps to install the majority part of it on the sd card from this guide I used when I first got my phone before I rooted.... http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...-force-install-apps-sd-card-without-root.html
I must admit it is very annoying that my apps positions change from what I want every time I turn my mob on and off or connect it to the PC with a cable (ie. every time it mounts and unmounts the SD card!)
Yea the galaxy ace internal memory sucks, but mine is a hell of a lot better than stock which was only about 85mb free out of the box which is quickly taken up by user apps/data etc, but I have 115mb free at the mo and I have about 25 user apps, which is fine for my use, One day I will partion my SD card though, I hope lol.
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Yeah I need to get round to partitioning my 16gb SD card (10gb is free) so all my apps are installed on that, don't suppose you know any simple guides? At the mo I am still forcing apps to install the majority part of it on the sd card from this guide I used when I first got my phone before I rooted.... http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...-force-install-apps-sd-card-without-root.html
I must admit it is very annoying that my apps positions change from what I want every time I turn my mob on and off or connect it to the PC with a cable (ie. every time it mounts and unmounts the SD card!)
Yea the galaxy ace internal memory sucks, but mine is a hell of a lot better than stock which was only about 85mb free out of the box which is quickly taken up by user apps/data etc, but I have 115mb free at the mo and I have about 25 user apps, which is fine for my use, One day I will partion my SD card though, I hope lol.
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I thaught you said you were noob & too scared to do anything with your phone?, lol! If you can follow that tutorial for using sdk tools & putting commands into cm prompt, then installing CWM zip on your sd card with root/unroot zip then rootiiing & partitioning & using Link2sd to put your apps on your sd card & never running out of space should be a doddle!
there's tons of guides, just use google, I'm sure even you can do that
Here: http://mnabil95.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-increase-internal-memory-galaxy.html
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CrackDaddy said:
I thaught you said you were noob & too scared to do anything with your phone?, lol! If you can follow that tutorial for using sdk tools & putting commands into cm prompt, then installing CWM zip on your sd card with root/unroot zip then rootiiing & partitioning & using Link2sd to put your apps on your sd card & never running out of space should be a doddle!
there's tons of guides, just use google, I'm sure even you can do that
Here: http://mnabil95.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-increase-internal-memory-galaxy.html
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Hi All, not been on here for a while to give update to my failed FW update cos was on holiday.
Anyway I have done nothing to my phone cos I was away and obviously been getting reminder regards FW update from Samsung but just keep postponing it because of problem.
I have read all the postings here since (some interesting and good points) but just a little bit confused because some members say use CWM and others say use Odin mmm, what is the best to use and do you require to have phone unrooted for both ??
Also where would I get this new FW update from because the last time I was on Sammobile (2wks ago) and I looked again when I got back from holiday it was not there.
Because I am a nooby I am just a little apprehensive lol
Just another point / if the binary counter on a phone was not at "0" would this cause new FW to fail when trying to install ??
So the ota wont try to install itself. I see a lot of people annoyed with ota notifications. this is the solution
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Another simple tip, if you have to Odin after a soft brick, immediately start airplane mode until the rooting process is done. Me personally I keep the RomToolbox apk on my SD card so I don't even have to sign in to download.
Great tips!!
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So the ota wont try to install itself. I see a lot of people annoyed with ota notifications. this is the solution
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Just so I'm 100% sure I'm safe...
(I am rooted and thought I had already taken care of this, but obviously had not...)
I had an OTA notification waiting for me when I woke up this morning. I declined and it said something to the effect that it would automatically try again at 0100 (1 AM) and make sure my phone was charged and yada, yada, yada...
After that, I immediately renamed \system\app\sdm.apk to "SDM.bak" (I also renamed FWUpgrade.apk in the same manner as directed in another post I saw).
So...that's all I should have to do right? Is there a downloaded update hanging out somewhere that needs to be deleted as well? My phone won't attempt to install this later at 0100 tonight?
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Just so I'm 100% sure I'm safe...
(I am rooted and thought I had already taken care of this, but obviously had not...)
I had an OTA notification waiting for me when I woke up this morning. I declined and it said something to the effect that it would automatically try again at 0100 (1 AM) and make sure my phone was charged and yada, yada, yada...
After that, I immediately renamed \system\app\sdm.apk to "SDM.bak" (I also renamed FWUpgrade.apk in the same manner as directed in another post I saw).
So...that's all I should have to do right? Is there a downloaded update hanging out somewhere that needs to be deleted as well? My phone won't attempt to install this later at 0100 tonight?
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The actual OTA download will be located in /cache. Delete with root explorer.
The download goes into the Data/FOTA folder. Find that and remove all permissions. I cant take credit for that one because I read it from another user that confirmed it stopped the OTA.
1. Open Root Browser
2. Navigate to data/fota
3. Long Press and select Permissions
4. Uncheck all boxes making it 0000
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The actual OTA download will be located in /cache. Delete with root explorer.
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The download goes into the Data/FOTA folder. Find that and remove all permissions. I cant take credit for that one because I read it from another user that confirmed it stopped the OTA.
1. Open Root Browser
2. Navigate to data/fota
3. Long Press and select Permissions
4. Uncheck all boxes making it 0000
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Thanks!
10ECN said:
The download goes into the Data/FOTA folder. Find that and remove all permissions. I cant take credit for that one because I read it from another user that confirmed it stopped the OTA.
1. Open Root Browser
2. Navigate to data/fota
3. Long Press and select Permissions
4. Uncheck all boxes making it 0000
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would it be better just to delete the update? The file is about 327MB and that's unwanted space being used
How are you renaming sdm? I am using ES as root and it's not letting me.
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would it be better just to delete the update? The file is about 327MB and that's unwanted space being used
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I think the logic behind leaving the update file there, but with permissions removed is because that would effectively block the update from being re-downloaded again, or being run by the updater.
Granted, that point is probably moot if the correct updater apps are already frozen, but it's an extra layer of assurance.
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How are you renaming sdm? I am using ES as root and it's not letting me.
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I used Root explorer...be sure to mount the directory as "read/write"
I ended up moving the two apk's to a backup folder on my sdcard, however after reboot I am still getting the prompt. I did not move the .odex files. Doing that now..
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I ended up moving the two apk's to a backup folder on my sdcard, however after reboot I am still getting the prompt. I did not move the .odex files. Doing that now..
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Perhaps you only copied them?
FWIW, the FWupgrade.apk didn't have an associated odex file on mine.
It didn't actually move sdm, but rather copied it. To fix sdm and renove notification for update, I used Titanium Backup to create a backup thrn uninstalled the apk. Hope this helps.
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I just froze SDM and FWUpgrade. Is that not good enough? Why is everyone renaming and deleting it?
I was wondering about the same thing why people are renaming and moving files. Maybe they don't have titanium backup to freeze it?
Freezing is all you need. These other extra precautions are not necessary.
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reybie said:
I was wondering about the same thing why people are renaming and moving files. Maybe they don't have titanium backup to freeze it?
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You don't even need Titanium backup. I never see it mentioned here so I don't know if anyone knows it exists, but I think the free app "System Tuner" by 3c is much better that Titanium and has way more features.
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I just froze SDM and FWUpgrade. Is that not good enough? Why is everyone renaming and deleting it?
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I was wondering about the same thing why people are renaming and moving files. Maybe they don't have titanium backup to freeze it?
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Yeah, I just prefer to manually rename/remove files that I know for a fact I don't want running. Freezing apps via TiB works well for bloatware and stuff like that...stuff that I *may* want to activate again later, but in this case, I'm 100% sure I do NOT want to run any OTA updates.
Most people use titanium back up or other apps because a lot of users don't understand file and folder permissions or how to run commands with adb or terminal etc. Manually doing it in cases like this is good so you know that its disabled. Especially when its something like this.
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I just froze SDM and FWUpgrade. Is that not good enough? Why is everyone renaming and deleting it?
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That's what I did and No Update for Me! Also, being on a custom recovery helps!
I am in need of freeing up space on my device. Out of the 16Gb I only have 2.xGb available now. I do have at least 2 backups on my phone, and 2 helium backups. Looking at the math, they should not take up that much room:
Stock.zip 1.7G
slim.zip 1.6G
Helium1 642MB
Helium2 733MB
= 4.65G
So that really doesn't make any sense to me. I reviewed my apps and I had a lot of google play cached, but I deleted all of that data through app management. So I can't figure what is taking up all of this space.
1. if I delete my backups from the device, which I have transferred to my computer, and then paste them back in, will they work? Will they work if I format the phone?
2. In reality I would have no problem formatting the phone to wipe everything and flash a rom again via OTG cable through CWM. However, I am at a loss as to what selection(s) in CWM I make to fix my problem.
1) there is actually only 11-12G actually available to the user, on all DNA's, on all ROMs
2) you can move back ups around. i keep a copy of mine in dropbox and on my computer, but never on my phone.
3) you have to have apps, app cache, music, pics, ect to have such little space. you need to look at your /data partition and your /sdcard partition when calculating space.
4) wth is helium?
Helium used to be carbon backup. But I'll look at my directories and review the space used
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Ok. So I was able to free up a bunch of space and removed a single backup, leaving stock.zip on board in case of crashing and need of assistance with Verizon though 99% unlikely to happen. I was having major issues finding where helium stored its data because it is blocked from the user. But luckily the Storage option in >Settings>Storage in slimbean is much greater in depth than I'm used to. So I was able to detect where a lot of my data was coming from which was various sources, but some were helium/Carbon, and also old DL files of CM that were sitting around.
But for the sake of knowing, If I did want to wipe everything through CWM and format, would I choose everything? or just a single option.
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Helium used to be carbon backup. But I'll look at my directories and review the space used
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Ok. So I was able to free up a bunch of space and removed a single backup, leaving stock.zip on board in case of crashing and need of assistance with Verizon though 99% unlikely to happen. I was having major issues finding where helium stored its data because it is blocked from the user. But luckily the Storage option in >Settings>Storage in slimbean is much greater in depth than I'm used to. So I was able to detect where a lot of my data was coming from which was various sources, but some were helium/Carbon, and also old DL files of CM that were sitting around.
But for the sake of knowing, If I did want to wipe everything through CWM and format, would I choose everything? or just a single option.
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well its been a while since i've used CMW, and im on TWRP. but it depends on how far down you want to format. if you want to just do a regular wipe, and reload a new rom then the usual wipe is your /system, /data, /cache, /dalvik, and /boot. im not sure what CWM calls them, but those are the usual partitions. just make sure you have a new rom ready or a backup. if you wanted to reformat even FURTHER than that, you could flash the stock rocovery and do a fac reset. but thats only if you are have major issue across all roms.
OK. Thanks for the response. I'm going to research why so many people tend to prefer twrp now.
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rockfreak101 said:
OK. Thanks for the response. I'm going to research why so many people tend to prefer twrp now.
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i think one of the main factors was that it works with some ROMs OTA functions, especially Viper roms, which are very popular. myself, i just wanted to try it out lol
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OK. Thanks for the response. I'm going to research why so many people tend to prefer twrp now.
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If u came from a Rom that was on 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 to a Rom that is 4.2.2 then check the /sdcard directory.. not sdcard0. I think its also in data/media. Not sdcard/data/media but striaght data/media. Use a root file manager and if u still have files in there, then delete everything except the 0/ folder. Happened to me a couple times and I freed up around 2-4 gb everytime
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If u came from a Rom that was on 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 to a Rom that is 4.2.2 then check the /sdcard directory.. not sdcard0. I think its also in data/media. Not sdcard/data/media but striaght data/media. Use a root file manager and if u still have files in there, then delete everything except the 0/ folder. Happened to me a couple times and I freed up around 2-4 gb everytime
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I looked into that and saw what you were referring to. My only concern is that data/media is where my stock.zip recovery is saved. I'm not sure if I'm quite ready to remove that from my device yet. Also, do I need any of the CWM stuff found in data/media still? I am not referring to data/media/0.
rockfreak101 said:
I looked into that and saw what you were referring to. My only concern is that data/media is where my stock.zip recovery is saved. I'm not sure if I'm quite ready to remove that from my device yet. Also, do I need any of the CWM stuff found in data/media still? I am not referring to data/media/0.
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Update: I'm glad I checked. I performed a backup of my current rom and CWM placed it in /data/media/clockworkmod. So this is an active directory that CWM is using for my backups. So I don't believe I'll be deleting the /data/media/clockworkmod directory. But will then anything else be impacted if deleted?
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Update: I'm glad I checked. I performed a backup of my current rom and CWM placed it in /data/media/clockworkmod. So this is an active directory that CWM is using for my backups. So I don't believe I'll be deleting the /data/media/clockworkmod directory. But will then anything else be impacted if deleted?
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Oh if you still have your backups there then dont delete that cwm folder.. but try and delete anything else that seems useless. What Rom are you on now?
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Oh if you still have your backups there then dont delete that cwm folder.. but try and delete anything else that seems useless. What Rom are you on now?
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On slimbean. The remaining 4.1 files are from stock. All roms i have used are 4.2.
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On slimbean. The remaining 4.1 files are from stock. All roms i have used are 4.2.
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Alright I'm pretty sure its the data/media/android folder that has a pretty good chunk of memory. Try and delete that. It wont mess up your current setup because your android folder is on the sdcard 0
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Also if you took pictures, downloaded stuff, or have music when you were on stock, then dont touch folders like dcim, download, music, pictures, ect. I personally move all my files when I switch between 4.1 to 4.2 fro. Sdcard to sdcard0. If you want to do that use a computer to make sure it transfered right because I used es filemanager once and it said it transfered but instead all of it was lost. I think someone made a .zip file that could transfer everything but I can't remember
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Alright I'm pretty sure its the data/media/android folder that has a pretty good chunk of memory. Try and delete that. It wont mess up your current setup because your android folder is on the sdcard 0
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Also if you took pictures, downloaded stuff, or have music when you were on stock, then dont touch folders like dcim, download, music, pictures, ect. I personally move all my files when I switch between 4.1 to 4.2 fro. Sdcard to sdcard0. If you want to do that use a computer to make sure it transfered right because I used es filemanager once and it said it transfered but instead all of it was lost. I think someone made a .zip file that could transfer everything but I can't remember
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Sounds good. In regards to the pictures. I believe you posted about that somewhere else before, or someone else did. I saw the issues. I use dropbox and don't have any music on my device other than google music cache. So I cleared a lot of that stuff up. thanks for your help.
Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
Yes, once you root the phone you can download Titanium backup (full version) and freeze SDM
As I believe that the SDM is the file that manages the communication for updates
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Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
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Well that depends. Progress is definitely being made towards another bootloader unlock. However, the 4.4 update would possibly introduce even more security that the devs haven't seen before.
But using titanium or just renaming sdm.apk to sdm.bak with a file explorer (must be rooted) will stop the updates.
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Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
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Once you root download and install TitaniumBackup and the key (the money you spend for the key is really worth it!) Then you can freeze SDM as well as FWUpgrade. This will prevent your phone from upgrading.
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Yea I can't imagine stock 4.4 will be anything but more difficult for the XDA gods to find an exploit.
Thank god for swappa and people selling their mdk s4's .
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I used adb to rename both, I hope that would be ok too,? Next I want to get rid of KNOX, Backup Assistant, Verizon Mobile Security, and Google+. Is it safe to remove them too?
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Once you root download and install TitaniumBackup and the key (the money you spend for the key is really worth it!) Then you can freeze SDM as well as FWUpgrade. This will prevent your phone from upgrading.
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I used adb to rename both, I hope that would be ok too,? Next I want to get rid of KNOX, Backup Assistant, Verizon Mobile Security, and Google+. Is it safe to remove them too?
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Your BEST bet is to use TitaniumBackup and make a backup of all the files you want to "get rid of". Once you make those backups, you can have TitaniumBackup uninstall those apps. Now if something happens you can easily reinstall those apps through TitaniumBackup. You can also have TitaniumBackup backup location to be your extSdCard and not on your phone, this way your backups aren't eating up space on the sdcard (internal sdcard)
I have frozen ( thru TitaniumBackup) all the apps you are talking about and I'm not having any problems.
Hope this helps!
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Yea I can't imagine stock 4.4 will be anything but more difficult for the XDA gods to find an exploit.
Thank god for swappa and people selling their mdk s4's .
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rest assured, that every subsequent firmware release by samsung/verizon will lock down whatever exploits we are using even more.
Summary of my system: I have a SPRINT SPH-L720T MK5 4.3 model phone. I am rooted with k1mu SafeRoot and have about twelve system apps (including the touchwiz launchers) frozen with Titanium backup. I use nova launcher as my primary launcher. I wish to remain rooted and according to things I read on the saferoot thread, I cannot receive OTA updates while apps are frozen, yet I received new notification this morning on my phone that says "System Update Downloaded. Touch to install".
I read the thread. I froze FWUpgrade. Not sure what SDM stands for, and I don't see a SDM in the list but when I type SDM in the filter it brings up a service called "System Update 1.8.8". I froze it also, assuming it's the right one.
I restarted the phone and the "System update downloaded. Touch to install" notification is still on my screen.
1) Is there any way to get rid of the notification after it has already spawned? I don't want to accidentally click on it at a later time.
2) and Is there any way to tell what the update actually is before launching it? Maybe it's not 4.4 and I can launch it.
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Summary of my system: I have a SPRINT SPH-L720T MK5 4.3 model phone. I am rooted with k1mu SafeRoot and have about twelve system apps (including the touchwiz launchers) frozen with Titanium backup. I use nova launcher as my primary launcher. I wish to remain rooted and according to things I read on the saferoot thread, I cannot receive OTA updates while apps are frozen, yet I received new notification this morning on my phone that says "System Update Downloaded. Touch to install".
I read the thread. I froze FWUpgrade. Not sure what SDM stands for, and I don't see a SDM in the list but when I type SDM in the filter it brings up a service called "System Update 1.8.8". I froze it also, assuming it's the right one.
I restarted the phone and the "System update downloaded. Touch to install" notification is still on my screen.
1) Is there any way to get rid of the notification after it has already spawned? I don't want to accidentally click on it at a later time.
2) and Is there any way to tell what the update actually is before launching it? Maybe it's not 4.4 and I can launch it.
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Go to /cache/fota/ on your phone. There will be an Update.zip. Delete or rename that and the update prompt will go away.
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Go to /cache/fota/ on your phone. There will be an Update.zip. Delete or rename that and the update prompt will go away.
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I went to the top of the tree and found the cache folder but there were no sub folders (i.e. "fota"). I also ran a search on the entire tree for a "fota" folder and did not find one. I also ran a search on the entire tree for "update.zip" and didn't find one.
Is it possible, that my freezing the "FWUpgrade" and "System Update 1.8.8" automatically removed the fota folder and the update.zip? That seems unlikely.
or is it possible that I'm dealing with a completely different update (perhaps it's not 4.4, maybe it's something else all together)?
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I went to the top of the tree and found the cache folder but there were no sub folders (i.e. "fota"). I also ran a search on the entire tree for a "fota" folder and did not find one. I also ran a search on the entire tree for "update.zip" and didn't find one.
Is it possible, that my freezing the "FWUpgrade" and "System Update 1.8.8" automatically removed the fota folder and the update.zip? That seems unlikely.
or is it possible that I'm dealing with a completely different update (perhaps it's not 4.4, maybe it's something else all together)?
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Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
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Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
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Ran a search across my whole device for OTApkg.zip. No file found.
Please allow me to restate a few things:
1) I have no subfolder under "/cache". I do not have a "fumo" or "fota". I have nothing in my "/cache" folder.
2) On my Sprint SPH-L720T Tri Band phone, I do not have a "SDM" app process. When I type "SDM" in my titanium backup, it brings up a app process called "System Update 1.8.8". I don't know if I should have froze this, but I did.
3) I ran a search across my whole device for *.zip to return all .zip files. I did find a "/system/etc/security/otacerts.zip". Not sure if I should do anything with that.
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Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
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Also, I am rooted. I used your saferoot two months ago. I just went into my file manager app and found a root option. I turned it on and the file manager app requested super user privilege which I granted. Now I can see sub folders under cache, but none of them match your description.
I do see a obvious file called " 0de568e284baa2bbcb25305b099be7cc415386de.USER_L720T_SPT_MK5_to_NAF_Update_FWD.zip". See enclosed pic.
I moved it to my sd card. Do you think I'm OK to press the update option now to make it go away?
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Just freeze sdm in titanium
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Maduro78 said:
Just freeze sdm in titanium
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There is no sdm on my model. Read the entire thread. It's not very long.
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bgmg said:
There is no sdm on my model. Read the entire thread. It's not very long.
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This is a misplaced thread.
bgmg doesn't have a Verizon phone, it's a Sprint phone. That's why suggestions to freeze SDM/FWUpdate don't work.