http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/17/a-stable-version-of-ubuntus-mobile-os-is-available-now/
I know we are still a community very young here in the G2 forums but I think some Ubuntu goodness would be good to have as a choice. The stable version just launched for the Nexus 4. I've no deving experience but it'd be cool if a dev could take a look and see if it's possible to do a port :fingers-crossed:
Not to burst the bubble but, at least on the N7, it's totally unstable, and unusable.
Doesn't mean development can't start. Get the groundwork in place so when the Ubuntu Touch source is more refined, then a full-fledged ROM won't be much far away.
More options is a good thing even if they have maturing to do.
Personally, I'm interested in seeing how the docking-as-a-desktop thing will perform considering the specs of this phone being so nice.
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Not to burst the bubble but, at least on the N7, it's totally unstable, and unusable.
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For what i understand, that's why they haven't officially released it for tablets yet.
bumping, because well... a man can dream!
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Buy some Unix/Linux books and start reading. Develop it yourself if it's that important to you!
cggorman said:
Buy some Unix/Linux books and start reading. Develop it yourself if it's that important to you!
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Awwwww.... come on.
This would be an interesting choice but I feel that Android is more touch friendly than Ubuntu would ever be.
Any development is good development.
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Ubuntu Touch's gesture based navigation seems really sweet, but the lack of apps seems worrying.
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Awwwww.... come on.
This would be an interesting choice but I feel that Android is more touch friendly than Ubuntu would ever be.
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I was under the impression that Ubuntu was more touch friendly than android what with gestures etc.
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Anyone with knowledge about ROM building and would like to take on the task @Th3Bill has been working with Ubuntu for android based products for a long time. He is currently working on Ubuntu touch for another device. He could probably give someone pointers.
I would love to try out Ubuntu touch. Been very excited about since it was first announced.
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fr4nk1yn said:
Not to burst the bubble but, at least on the N7, it's totally unstable, and unusable.
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I was able to use it on my galaxy nexus just fine. Everything worked near flawlessly. Just couldn't make or receive phone calls or text but that's because I was on CDMA. From what I remember they have had several very stable builds on a few devices. Just no interest because of app development.
But my view on this is if its made available for more devices then eventually someone will pick up development of apps for it. The people that have say its very easy.
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qipengart said:
Awwwww.... come on.
This would be an interesting choice but I feel that Android is more touch friendly than Ubuntu would ever be.
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While I thought the same when I started playing around with building it the other day, I will say that it's a VERY nice UI they have made. It seemed very simple to navigate.
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tsdeaton said:
Anyone with knowledge about ROM building and would like to take on the task @Th3Bill has been working with Ubuntu for android based products for a long time. He is currently working on Ubuntu touch for another device. He could probably give someone pointers.
I would love to try out Ubuntu touch. Been very excited about since it was first announced.
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Ubuntu touch I'm new with...just been doing for last 2 days LOL. I have been in the Android scene for a while, though (@tsdeaton knows me from the good ol Photon).
I will say this...UT is not as simple as it seems. I've got issues with multiple things so far (pretty much, I have a nice, pretty UI with a semi-functioning camera and NO networking or sound so far), but am working at figuring out how they get this working on their native devices and hoping to reverse engineer what they did for the HTC One.
As far as their native builds, the N10 and N7 are greatly lagging behind the N4 and GNex in terms of stability. If you check out their current status of each build (I don't have a link, but a quick googling should find it), you'll get an idea of the daunting task ahead of anyone looking to make this work.
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While I thought the same when I started playing around with building it the other day, I will say that it's a VERY nice UI they have made. It seemed very simple to navigate.
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Ubuntu touch I'm new with...just been doing for last 2 days LOL. I have been in the Android scene for a while, though (@tsdeaton knows me from the good ol Photon).
I will say this...UT is not as simple as it seems. I've got issues with multiple things so far (pretty much, I have a nice, pretty UI with a semi-functioning camera and NO networking or sound so far), but am working at figuring out how they get this working on their native devices and hoping to reverse engineer what they did for the HTC One.
As far as their native builds, the N10 and N7 are greatly lagging behind the N4 and GNex in terms of stability. If you check out their current status of each build (I don't have a link, but a quick googling should find it), you'll get an idea of the daunting task ahead of anyone looking to make this work.
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I had a hell of a time even getting it to compile. Let alone run on the device. Respect to the person that takes on this task.
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I had a hell of a time even getting it to compile. Let alone run on the device. Respect to the person that takes on this task.
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Compile was not too hard...I can get that far. It looks really nice when it boots, which took all of 12 seconds on first boot. I thought it had hung on a boot animation when I realized there was a status bar...LOL. It's pretty smooth and a VERY nice UI to be honest (and I don't really like ubuntu on the PC...I'm a Mint fan myself).
It's the part where they start talking about audio and writing Alsa UCM mixer files that I get a bit lost, as they have links to what SHOULD be reference material on HiFi and VoiceCall, yet both go to "Page does not exist" pages, thus leaving the builder on their own to figure it out.
Camera and wifi I should be able to fix. Phone, data, etc...I'm not sure that will work right without a LOT of work.
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While I thought the same when I started playing around with building it the other day, I will say that it's a VERY nice UI they have made. It seemed very simple to navigate.
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Ubuntu touch I'm new with...just been doing for last 2 days LOL. I have been in the Android scene for a while, though (@tsdeaton knows me from the good ol Photon).
I will say this...UT is not as simple as it seems. I've got issues with multiple things so far (pretty much, I have a nice, pretty UI with a semi-functioning camera and NO networking or sound so far), but am working at figuring out how they get this working on their native devices and hoping to reverse engineer what they did for the HTC One.
As far as their native builds, the N10 and N7 are greatly lagging behind the N4 and GNex in terms of stability. If you check out their current status of each build (I don't have a link, but a quick googling should find it), you'll get an idea of the daunting task ahead of anyone looking to make this work.
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Haha sorry I got you and loki mixed up. But what I seen of yours is a great start for the nonbelievers. Is Loki still around? He was the one in the Ubuntu scene
Edit found him
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281528
BTW wouldn't it be interesting to have something like this set up for other devices
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player911 said:
Any development is good development.
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Totally agree. I would like to see how it progresses. It's nice looking already.
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I am considering creating a secure ROM which will be optimized for security and privacy. Gapps will be removed, security will be enhanced, Tor integration, a custom kernel enhanced for security and speed, and open source drivers (The last two are for later work).
I am considering making two flavors, a defense ROM (Set up for defense and max privacy), and a Offensive ROM (The defensive ROM except modded for pentesting (Right...? ). I might figure out how to get the aircrack suite running on it.)
However, the Offensive ROM is a future project and i am just going to make the defense ROM for now.
Is there any interest into this? (And i might integrate cornerstone into it)
I plan to make it a FOS ROM for v2 or v3 but thats all in the future. For now i am planning to build off of the stock ROM.
Any idea's/suggestions?
Edit: I have started working on the Defense version and I should have a 1.0 out soon.
And yes, I have the computing power to compile a FOS ROM. Two quad Core 8gb machines
An SELinux version of Android already exists... and Android is already inherently secure because of app-sandboxes... what on earth could you possibly offer better than that? If you want a secure android, don't root it.
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damien667 said:
An SELinux version of Android already exists... and Android is already inherently secure because of app-sandboxes... what on earth could you possibly offer better than that? If you want a secure android, don't root it.
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I mean secure as in no Google logging (remember carrier IQ oh wise one? ), custom written drivers so no manufacturer logging , and a custom kernel so that I can do things like disable the GPS chip at kernel level and lock the camera at kernel level.
And the offensive ROM is going to be a blast. All ur wifis ar mine and all that
All of that sounds pretty awesome, even if I didn't use it choice is the reason we all go android right?
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marko! said:
All of that sounds pretty awesome, even if I didn't use it choice is the reason we all go android right?
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Exactly!
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Why go thru all that troubles, why dont you just turn off the internet? or dont use your tablet at all?
Please do this! We have mobile labs with Transformer Prime's and this will be perfect for testing and IT!
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Why go thru all that troubles, why dont you just turn off the internet? or dont use your tablet at all?
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I'm not going through *that* much trouble. V1 is just a modded stock ROM.
And why would I pay $500 for something I don't use?
detta123 said:
Please do this! We have mobile labs with Transformer Prime's and this will be perfect for testing and IT!
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The defense or the offence one?
i500 said:
The defense or the offence one?
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Defense. 10char
I'm interested in the offensive one but not so much defensive one. All options are great though!
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SOTK said:
I'm interested in the offensive one but not so much defensive one. All options are great though!
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The offense one is going to be built off of the Defense ROM so i have to make sure the Defense ROM is stable before building the Offense ROM. No use putting the cart before the horse .
Ha I'd love this! Just took a break from my computer forensics lab to find this here waiting.
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tor integration would be a nice feature, but so would having an option to cut it off if it gets too slow.
Better vpn implementation would be a plus.
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Ha I'd love this! Just took a break from my computer forensics lab to find this here waiting.
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tor integration would be a nice feature, but so would having an option to cut it off if it gets too slow.
Better vpn implementation would be a plus.
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I was planning on doing both of those.
Hopefully i can have a alpha build out tomorrow.
I am all for the defensive ROM, in fact as long as cornerstone is integrated into any ROM, i will be absolutely elated to try it.
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avinash60 said:
I am all for the defensive ROM, in fact as long as cornerstone is integrated into any ROM, i will be absolutely elated to try it.
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Cornerstone will be integrated into a separate build as it is quite buggy from what i have heard.
justwonder said:
Why go thru all that troubles, why dont you just turn off the internet? or dont use your tablet at all?
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Do you even know what TOR is?
And the things you use a tablet for (Pr0n?) are not the things the OP is making a very specific build for.
I actually have quite a few professional tools on my Prime as well, and it wouldn't break my heart to see GAPPS go away.
I really hate it when amateurs with no clue post "rhetorical" questions. Rhetorical in quotes because you obviously have no clue that there IS a valid answer to your question, nor are you even remotely interested in the answer because the OP already gave it PRIOR to you asking.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
defense/offense in 1?
So if this Eee Pad is like its netbook brother the Eee PC which has a broadcom also(yes I know its not the exact same one) it could be pretty useful in the penetrate(offensive) area. My college runs the Eee PC in the ethical hacking classes because its compact and the broadcom it boasts can utilize BT WiFI tools to its full potential.
Anyone know if sideloading the Ubuntu Developer Preview would work with CWM on our phone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBJ7U3omGps
We need to get a working CM build before we can do that. Currently, the N4 and GN builds are using a CM kernel as a base for the Ubuntu Dev preview. Theoretically, we can build something that boots (since we do have a booting CM build) it would lack a ton of things though such as voice and data.
If someone knows a bit more info, feel free to correct me.
The developer preview is limited in these functionalities anyway as far as I'm aware
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jonesin said:
The developer preview is limited in these functionalities anyway as far as I'm aware
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It has no cdma or LTE compatibility as of now. Gsm only. There is an extensive list of known issues. Its pretty sweet though. Got it on my nexus 7.
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I think the dev preview is only for the nexus products for now. They will come out with more support later.
atishpatel2012 said:
I think the dev preview is only for the nexus products for now. They will come out with more support later.
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They have instructions for porting it to any device.
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to my knowledge the preview doesn't even have mobile data functionality for gsm for now its only wifi, text and calls
After watching several videos on Ubuntu, I'm both excited to try it, and little confused. In almost all videos, it looks almost exactly like Android. The task bar looks the same, it pulls down the same way, the icons look basically the same.
Don't get me wrong, I love having options, but it doesn't seem to be very unique.
Any thoughts on this?
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Serinety said:
After watching several videos on Ubuntu, I'm both excited to try it, and little confused. In almost all videos, it looks almost exactly like Android. The task bar looks the same, it pulls down the same way, the icons look basically the same.
Don't get me wrong, I love having options, but it doesn't seem to be very unique.
Any thoughts on this?
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There are several differences. First of all, the thing you will most readily notice is that there are not button/hardware or otherwise for the ubuntu phone OS, it uses gestures similar to the blackberry 10 OS. In some instances this is better at other times, it is nice to have a button. In the long term, your benefit will be the ability to have a larger screen on a smaller device since you won't have to have a longer device to accomadate the buttons.
From a more technical standpoint, using pure linux removes some of the more contentious parts of android like the use of Java. Some of which may provide a faster user experience on the same hardware if Ubuntu can manage to ditch xorg. You could also, argue that the app availability and scalability of ubuntu is greater than android. In other words, soon you'll be able to walk around with a linux device that you can plug into a monitor and blu-tooth keyboard and have a full fledge desktop all from the same hardware -- Carry one device - access it anywhere and in whatever capacity you need it at that time.
Put it on my galaxy nexus it's not really all that it is fun to play with but I had problems with calls. DNA is much better but stock android will make this the best device all day. If only it had the front stereo speakers powered by beats this phone would never need to be upgraded
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It has no cdma or LTE compatibility as of now. Gsm only. There is an extensive list of known issues. Its pretty sweet though. Got it on my nexus 7.
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And how do you feel about it so far? Been thinking about doing the same thing with my N7..... but not having the ability to use my already purchased apps and what not is deterring me at the moment.
UrGuardian999 said:
And how do you feel about it so far? Been thinking about doing the same thing with my N7..... but not having the ability to use my already purchased apps and what not is deterring me at the moment.
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I love the look of ubuntu as an OS, and this kind if follows suit. It is buggy as hell though. I no longer am using it. Its fun to tinker with but that's about it.
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idkwhothatis123 said:
I love the look of ubuntu as an OS, and this kind if follows suit. It is buggy as hell though. I no longer am using it. Its fun to tinker with but that's about it.
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I guess we'll have to see when it stabilizes whether it's worthy of replacing OG Android
I'm a pretty basic guy with pretty basic needs. I like a certain look and functionality to my DNA. I have been debating over what my DD should be and am using Viper DNA (which completely kicks major ass good). When I mean basic I really mean it though. I keep going back and forth from the stock 2.04.605.2 710RD rooted rom and this one and I need a guide or some pointers to get what I want to get out of it. I just learned how to use ADB last week so I am new to the format, but I did manage to do the following:
SuperCID
UNLOCKED Bootloader
Root
S-Off
Blocked OTA updates
Flashed a kernel
My current setup is the updated radio of 1.01.01.0110 and the kernel for the 2.04.605.2 710RD update 3.4.10-ga02d2c6
I think I may be making bad decisions at the install of Viper DNA because the stock rom battery lasts forever but the Viper DNA rom only lasts half as long so I must be making a mistake somewhere.
All I really want is the stock version with these simple modifications :
Basic calculator as the sense one has weird number design (ugly design really)
Aosp looking status bar like the one guichh has but with a plain vertical battery with no percent
Aosp dialer
Working mms with aosp theme as well
Everything else can stay stock. Oh and if that pesky wifi notification in the pull down will go away that would he nice.
I know there are individual fixes for these (in most cases) but one of these options (status bar) is hard to pull of without running viper tweaks so you can't really pull that off on stock.
I know every end user is different and I guess I will have to try development next to really get what I want but if there is an easier way I would appreciate any and all help.
Actually I've been really reluctant about flashing a Rom because of that. Stock battery has been so good these few days I've had the phone. So it seems like you will have to play with the tweaks on viper / try different kernels on it. One reliable Rom that you could try is newtroot's. His were always very generous on battery life on previous devices.
The theme section has a good aosp theme last I saw. Not 100% sure, I kind of like sense 4.
You are going to love ViperDNA 1.2. As a beta tester I'm sworn to confidentiality but I can say that it will solve all of the problems you mentioned.
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You are going to love ViperDNA 1.2. As a beta tester I'm sworn to confidentiality but I can say that it will solve all of the problems you mentioned.
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I have heard a rumor that Viper DNA version 1.2 will be based off of the 2.04 version. I've been a beta tester for Sony for a very very long time. So I know the feeling of being sworn to secrecy. Hopefully, I will look forward to the new Viper DNA 1.2 and love it as much as you say.
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You are going to love ViperDNA 1.2. As a beta tester I'm sworn to confidentiality but I can say that it will solve all of the problems you mentioned.
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No your not. Nits has said multiple times that beta testers can talk about it and post screen shots.
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Jaybone073 said:
I have heard a rumor that Viper DNA version 1.2 will be based off of the 2.04 version. I've been a beta tester for Sony for a very very long time. So I know the feeling of being sworn to secrecy. Hopefully, I will look forward to the new Viper DNA 1.2 and love it as much as you say.
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That's not even a rumor, that's a fact. Lol.
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No your not. Nits has said multiple times that beta testers can talk about it and post screen shots.
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That's not even a rumor, that's a fact. Lol.
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Nice to see you chime in Big Andrew. You have been most helpful to me in the past and I really appreciate your input as well as everyone else who has put up with the noob learning how to use adb. I managed to master my Thunderbolt a while back but the DNA has opened up a whole new world to me and I feel I may be annoying more than I should be. I know I ask a lot of questions and I try to learn something new every night so it may be time to crack the knuckles and dig into theming, skinning, or dare I say it, mild development to achieve what I am looking for.
If there is a way to do what I need running stock rooted with the stock kernel I will be more than happy to take a good "noob bashing" with replies that say something to the effect of this:
Okay idiot bone - step one to get your soap status bar and icons is to go to adb and do this...
Lol. I can take a good bashing. I realize that xda is a little more tech savvy than my previous forum home so I am prepared to hear comments like that....and "your village called, they want their idiot back". Lol.
I'm just curious as to why Verizon note 2 is lacking so much in the ROM development side of things compared to other carriers. Is it solely because we are still only 4.1.1? Just thought it would be interesting to see peoples input!
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By the way, sorry if this is in the wrong thread :/
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
Oops! Sorry for taking up space Haha. Didn't look too far into the forums for anything related.
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nunyazz said:
It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
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Only a quarter of a year ago....And even in the thread you linked there were whiny people complaining that someone else at some point had asked the question. Lighten up.
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Yet Scott just released a zip that will allow us to flash t mobile, and att roms. Give me a moment, and I will find the thread, and post it here. If you want to see a dead phone, go look at the rezound. The phone is barely a year and a half old, and it is marching into obscurity. The droid incredible has more action. These threads aren't going to produce more roms, just bad attitudes. Try playing with all of the mods we have, and theme it to whatever you want it to be. Morphology, Xposed, and a slew of others. Troll the other carriers threads, and pull mods that you want. That is all we can ask for, unless you are paying the devs a paycheck.
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HughesNet said:
. Lighten up.
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Really dude? Get a life.
nunyazz said:
Really dude? Get a life.
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Yes, really.
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jbrown30 said:
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Which have you tried? Both Jedi and Jelly Beans are both great. I am using the mod in my sig right now as I like that it keeps the samsung allshare features working.
With a combination of Jelly Beans, Widget Locker, and a theme you could pretty much get anything done you want. Pick up the odd app or mod here and there to fill in the gaps.
By the way, if you want to give 4.1.2 a go Jedi is running that. It is great if you don't need the Samsung services.
Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
Most source built ROMs (AOSP) are going to have issues, whether major or minor, and are much easier to customize as you're dealing with XML and java. However, the lack of TW features keep people away from them.
With TouchWiz ROMs, you don't lose any functionality, but there is only so much that smali hacking can do. Most of this is just the time consuming nature of trying to hack a ROM via smali only. You could get everything in your favorite source built ROM if you wanted to take the time to do so. But, given that this is a for-fun thing and not a money making venture, developers aren't likely to take that amount of time if they wouldn't use it themselves.
jcollier said:
I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
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I would definitely prefer a few quality roms with great support than 27 versions of cyanogenmod that are 98% the same. Beans, MeanBean, Tweaked, Jedi, Elemental...that should be plenty to keep the crack flashers happy.
JeramyEggs said:
Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Appreciate the input man!
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What is a rom really? To me It's just a better version of what the manufacturer builds. The stuff is basically the same for the most part with the addition of tweaks for better battery performance etc... That are added by the dev. The thing that makes a rom different are the things like themes and different looking batteries etc..., so why have 100 roms that essentially are the same? I would prefer to have 1 rom that performs well with a bunch of themes and mods hence i only use meanbean and love the real icon theme, or morphology. Mean bean is a great rom and with pbj kernel even better.
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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This answer makes me glad I didn't flame you last night when I was drunk haha. Meanbean plus morphology is plenty of customization for me haha
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stock android firmware has evolved into something so much better than it use to be...im still on beans build 2 because it flatout works and has all the things I need. Its hard to develop when stock touchwiz is so good out of the box. the only real thing that touchwiz needs is themeing. beans takes the cake on that. aosp was nice on my gs1 because it trimmed the fat and made the ol single core with limited ram run smooth. these quad core beasts are designed to handle bloat and a festure rich skins(touchwiz), so aosp does not have the appeal and performance advantage it use to. however for the folks that
keep this device well past tthe point verizon quits supporting it, then aosp will shine...simply for the fact it will bring the latest android offerings and keep the note 2 alive.
I think it had A LOT to do with TW and Spen/Note 2 specific features. Nobody really wants to lose them, and there's only so many ways to mess with TW. There's plenty of AOSP/KP stuff but look at the involvement compared to TW roms... It's there, but not as much... My take on it anyway.
Edit: Yeah, what Droidstyle said, lol.
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Don't forget that Samsung has promised an update to 4.2 for the Note II sometime this year. No real timetable, but when it comes it will be a shot in the arm for development.
Myself, I bounce between Beans ROM and CyanogenMod. The S-Pen features are what generally keep me hopping, but both are good.
I know, I know... the droid x2 is a lost cause, but i have to make it last a little while longer and I have 2 of them so...
Is anyone interested or talented enough to try to get CM11 (kitkat) ported over to this device? I know @kev1nMark has been "talking" to dragonzkiller about getting into it, but anyone else have resources to contribute? I've never worked on the device at such a low level before, but I have written apps for it as well as know a thing or two about code. I'm happy to contribute whatever i can, even if its as simple as running up tests on my spare device.
Thoughts?
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I know, I know... the droid x2 is a lost cause, but i have to make it last a little while longer and I have 2 of them so...
Is anyone interested or talented enough to try to get CM11 (kitkat) ported over to this device? I know @kev1nMark has been "talking" to dragonzkiller about getting into it, but anyone else have resources to contribute? I've never worked on the device at such a low level before, but I have written apps for it as well as know a thing or two about code. I'm happy to contribute whatever i can, even if its as simple as running up tests on my spare device.
Thoughts?
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I am considering it. This devices is a royal pain to work with though. I will see what i can do.
I'm certainly willing to test any builds that may come up, I'll have to locate a wall charger though..
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I've never worked on the device at such a low level before, but I have written apps for it as well as know a thing or two about code. I'm happy to contribute whatever i can, even if its as simple as running up tests on my spare device.
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In the same situation. It's looking like a good deal of work and might be a task I just simply don't have the skill for at this point. Still, I really want to have a useful old phone. Gingerbread makes me sad. Jelly Bean is just a resource hog. I've always wanted to learn a little more about the ROM build process and this might be a decent way to do it.
How does one go about porting KitKat to the X2?
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How does one go about porting KitKat to the X2?
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This is where I'm starting also w/ dragonzkiller's CM10 repos. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
EDIT: Perhaps it's better to start building an updated CM10 just to get everything building correctly? With my lack of experience diving right into CM11 seems a bit bold.
One can simply put cm11 framework on a cm10 base but that's not what we want.
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One can simply put cm11 framework on a cm10 base but that's not what we want.
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Not what we want, but it may be our only option.
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Should anyone decide to take on this herculean task, I'll be more than happy to be a test bunny. My X2 is presently a glorified paperweight.
-blu
I have a Milestone X2 running under the ACS Alaska carrier. My device is rooted and I've used every ROM that Larson Thorpe has put in his MX2 collection. The ICS and JB roms did work, but had too many issues/crashes/reboots/etc so I just stuck with Eclipse 2.3 which is based on Gingerbread.
This phone is just... hard to deal with sometimes, and we all know it's mostly due to the amount of RAM. KitKat seems to take care of a ton of memory issues in Android (tested on my N7.) People have said that KitKat won't actually improve older devices by much, but any improvement would be amazing!
I'm totally down to fully test any builds anyone comes up with. I wish I could help build/develop for this phone, but I'm a web developer and have absolutely no skill with ROM building or kernels or anything like that.
Here's to hoping!
I can get everything set up and running (as in, ready to compile) but the compile errors are truly a mess to debug.
Is anyone willing to make a "how to" thread that describes how to make a basic rom, specific to this phone?
I think enough people are still interested, but I think we'd get further if we helped to educate each other.
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Is anyone willing to make a "how to" thread that describes how to make a basic rom, specific to this phone?
I think enough people are still interested, but I think we'd get further if we helped to educate each other.
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This is about the closest thing I have seen, thanks Kevin for pointing it out already:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
Maybe once it gets put on more devices and development starts up again. You could ask nitroglycerin if he would be willing to update eclipse. But being a 512mb device this would be huge.
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Since we don't have a unlocked bootloader we can't just download the source and compile it, it takes a lot of skill. That's why we have a low development rate
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Since we don't have a unlocked bootloader we can't just download the source and compile it, it takes a lot of skill. That's why we have a low development rate
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Well, actually, you can have CM compile around a pre-compiled kernel (what we have) but there's more to it than that.
One, we already have graphics issues...and KitKat forces you to have newer drivers or else you get black artifacting
This is due to OpenGL 3 not being supported by the vendor blobs
Our blobs don't even have ICS support...
Another nightmare is, yes, getting CM to take the precompiled kernel
If I got my hands on the source that the cm10.1 rom is based off of, we could start work
I would aim to start with 10.2, then maybe add in cm11 features but keep the old system
It would make things easier, keep radios, wifi, storage and display working...hopefully
Also, being as I'm on cm10, could anyone link me the patched recovery?
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one on the ol' X2, this would be so awesome if we got a KitKat ROM
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one on the ol' X2, this would be so awesome if we got a KitKat ROM
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I'm literally ready to start working on it now
But I need our device stuff and I'm waiting for a reply to a PM for it
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I can get everything set up and running (as in, ready to compile) but the compile errors are truly a mess to debug.
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You have the device tree?
That's all I really need to get started
I want to do this soooo badly
Hell...I'm willing to do this Nexus Image style: hacking the files into a precompiled image to get it working
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Found the sources
smallzfsu said:
I know, I know... the droid x2 is a lost cause, but i have to make it last a little while longer and I have 2 of them so...
Is anyone interested or talented enough to try to get CM11 (kitkat) ported over to this device? I know @kev1nMark has been "talking" to dragonzkiller about getting into it, but anyone else have resources to contribute? I've never worked on the device at such a low level before, but I have written apps for it as well as know a thing or two about code. I'm happy to contribute whatever i can, even if its as simple as running up tests on my spare device.
Thoughts?
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I am willing to test. My programming skills are certainly not up to this task, but I would like to learn. Any way to get started?
polymath257 said:
I am willing to test. My programming skills are certainly not up to this task, but I would like to learn. Any way to get started?
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I'm about to go work on it now
Maybe we'll have it in two weeks? No? Probably not...
I'll try building CM11, but don't expect the graphics to work
At all