Edited this original post here, it was 3:30am when I typed the original.. Anyway - anyone know if rooting can cause any type of instability on it's own? Without installing custom mods, roms, etc - does the act of rooting potentially cause things to not work as intended from the carrier? (my friend had an S3, rooted, and allshare stopped working - he was only rooted). I know there is some type of exploit involved in gaining root access, so that's why I ask. It's not a critique on rooting, I want to do it myself.
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Anyone? I know it says "at your own risk", but i am curious - are there inherent known issues that can crop up just from rooting alone, maybe from just the method of gaining root through the system?
sjr19 said:
Anyone? I know it says "at your own risk", but i am curious - are there inherent known issues that can crop up just from rooting alone, maybe from just the method of gaining root through the system?
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There may be a few things that don't function properly as a result from rooting. But it's 99.99999% of the time not an actual issue with the files on the phone. Nothing should be modified except for root access.
One of the ones for sure would be ota updates. I read someone else was having issues with one of the Samsung apps for streaming video to devices. These issues and others like them were caused by the system status being changed to custom and can be solved quite easily by setting the system status back to official with wanam xposed. With root and the status set to official your phone should preform exactly as stock in every way except you'll have root.
But be aware if you accept the ota while rooted you may lose root. Would have to re root or use supersu pro to maintain root during the ota.
From my Note 3
Rooting will give you many benefits. Some of these include unauthorized apk installation, developer mode, custom firmware/modem improvements and fixes for some less functional stock features. This list could go on and on...
Most carriers frown upon customers rooting their devices for a few reasons; liability, damage control and profit above all.
When your device is rooted, custum, unofficial, and/or the Samsung KNOX binary counter has been tripped, Sprint/Samsung will consider your warranty void. Basically you will need to return the device to official stock and unrooted if you need to have your phone serviced.
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Kompster said:
Rooting will give you many benefits. Some of these include unauthorized apk installation, developer mode, custom firmware/modem improvements and fixes for some less functional stock features. This list could go on and on...
Most carriers frown upon customers rooting their devices for a few reasons; liability, damage control and profit above all.
When your device is rooted, custum, unofficial, and/or the Samsung KNOX binary counter has been tripped, Sprint/Samsung will consider your warranty void. Basically you will need to return the device to official stock and unrooted if you need to have your phone serviced.
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Fully agree.
However just to say it again because I see the question everywhere.
YOU CAN NOT RESET KNOX TO 0X0 AFTER IT HAS BEEN TRIPPED TO 0X1.
There is a root method that doesn't flip the knox flag though if that is a concern.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484095
YOU CAN NOT RESET KNOX TO 0X0 AFTER IT HAS BEEN TRIPPED TO 0X1.
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I've never had issues when just rooting a device granted I've only had the s3 and note 2 and now the note 3. But with the note 3 if you use the auto root method it will trip knox and that can't be undone and will void the warranty. The root de la vega method will give you just root access if it's what your looking for with out messing up knox.
Thanks guys. Yeah, like I said my buddy's allshare cast stopped when he rooted, so now he's reluctant to do that again. I know about not accepting OTAs. I think I am going to wait to see what other root methods may crop up, and also see if anyone finds away to reverse any accidental knox trips. Right now, i'm just enjoying the damn thing lol! Thanks all.
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Thanks guys. Yeah, like I said my buddy's allshare cast stopped when he rooted, so now he's reluctant to do that again. I know about not accepting OTAs. I think I am going to wait to see what other root methods may crop up, and also see if anyone finds away to reverse any accidental knox trips. Right now, i'm just enjoying the damn thing lol! Thanks all.
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If your knox is already flipped no need to wait for a new method. Just cm auto root. Use xposed to set system status official. And optionally get supersu pro and select the keep root ota option or don't update to any ota .the files will be in the development section to flash after its released. Like this and you should be 100% functional and stock/rooted.
I'm currently rooted with the vega root .status official. And everything appears to work for me including allshare.
There is always a risk with changing anything. But in my opinion the benefits out way the risks. And all of this is easily undone by just flashing back to a stock system.
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It is hard to get rooting because they limit the resource.
kelvinzhou905 said:
It is hard to get rooting because they limit the resource.
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its not hard. all the resources you need are here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2484095
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Sorry for this stupid question but I cant find how to root my note 3 with Sprint without tripping knox or voiding the warranty. I've done so much searching but I only found one root method which is the Kingo app but I heard its not approved by XDA mods because it steals personal information from the phone. Please help
I have never tried the chainfire method of rooting so far. I've only tried kingo. I cannot report on other methods. I cannot verify on the accusations of stealing information either. I can vouch that kingo does not trip the Knox counter. That is all I have to report. Sorry if that is no help.
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I have never tried the chainfire method of rooting so far. I've only tried kingo. I cannot report on other methods. I cannot verify on the accusations of stealing information either. I can vouch that kingo does not trip the Knox counter. That is all I have to report. Sorry if that is no help.
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Thanks for your reply. Do you know if I install the custom recovery like twrp or clockwork does that trip the knox counter with the kingo root method?
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Thanks for your reply. Do you know if I install the custom recovery like twrp or clockwork does that trip the knox counter with the kingo root method?
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Custom recovery trips Knox. King usually doesn't but can.
What he said. Recovery is what sets off the Knox e-fuse.
Well that's crap. I'm on MI3 unrooted. Should I update and root or root and flash deodexed update? I've been unsure and hesitant to ask but the thread is here so, lol.
I'm on MJ4 and I'm out of luck period. At least for now.
alikhan2004 said:
Sorry for this stupid question but I cant find how to root my note 3 with Sprint without tripping knox or voiding the warranty. I've done so much searching but I only found one root method which is the Kingo app but I heard its not approved by XDA mods because it steals personal information from the phone. Please help
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They don't know what the info is used for. So its kinda like be safer then sorry. Me personally i use it and everything is just fine. 1000's of other have used it as well. In today's world everything is out there for thieves to use against you.
Yes you dont want to just give it to them but rest for sure if you bank with a major bank you have no worries. I bought a ps4 off amazon. The next day i had a charge from some other state at walmart for $42.00! Called Wellsfargo and they put the money back in my account.
Just keep up with your credit scores and financial transactions as all Americans should be doing anyways.
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Custom recovery trips Knox. King usually doesn't but can.
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Ok so let me get this straight if I root my device and install a custom recovery like TWRP or clockwork it will trip knox?
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What he said. Recovery is what sets off the Knox e-fuse.
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You sure? Because I want to flash a custom rom but dont want to trip knox.
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They don't know what the info is used for. So its kinda like be safer then sorry. Me personally i use it and everything is just fine. 1000's of other have used it as well. In today's world everything is out there for thieves to use against you.
Yes you dont want to just give it to them but rest for sure if you bank with a major bank you have no worries. I bought a ps4 off amazon. The next day i had a charge from some other state at walmart for $42.00! Called Wellsfargo and they put the money back in my account.
Just keep up with your credit scores and financial transactions as all Americans should be doing anyways.
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Well said...I know I'm not the only person that used the software but at the same time I don't want to go through the whole hassle of disputing activities on my credit report or bank accounts. I will hold off a little longer for some other root method to come out. Do you know if the Root de la Vega is available for Sprints Note 3?
Like we said, kango root won't trip Knox. Adding custom recovery will. If you are determined to run a custom ROM, then you will have to install a custom recovery to flash it and that recovery will trip Knox.
I used the chain fire method on the MJ4 update and had no issues. Going to have to trip Knox though. But look around, no one is having problems with sprint with Knox tripped except for a few unlucky people and they go to a different store and problem is solved.
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Like we said, kango root won't trip Knox. Adding custom recovery will. If you are determined to run a custom ROM, then you will have to install a custom recovery to flash it and that recovery will trip Knox.
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Gotcha..Thank You just wanted to clarify before I install a custom rom.
I used Wanam and faked the status back to official. Looks like nothing ever happened...
this is it.. got my note 3.. and i want to uninstall those unnecessary apps.. from what ive search.. i need to root the phone.. my plan is root the phone using kingo and then install titanium backup.. and uninstall those unnecessary apps.. i can install any apps just not custom roms right, so i will not trip the knox?? thanks in advance
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this is it.. got my note 3.. and i want to uninstall those unnecessary apps.. from what ive search.. i need to root the phone.. my plan is root the phone using kingo and then install titanium backup.. and uninstall those unnecessary apps.. i can install any apps just not custom roms right, so i will not trip the knox?? thanks in advance
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Correct, but I would recommend that you deep-six the idea of uninstalling any system apps (honestly, it can cause some serious problems with your device). Best to freeze them using TiBu. Your phone has a ton of system space, and deleting apps can lead to undesired results, with no upside.
Any app that can be frozen from app manager should be done from there first (select disable). The rest, use the freeze option from TiBu (Sprint Zone, Connection Optimizer).
Do one or two at a time, then reboot. See if your phone locks up after some use. If no issues, freeze another clutch of apps. If you do run into trouble, thawing the app is your next move.
I hope this helps.
Good luck!
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micmars said:
Correct, but I would recommend that you deep-six the idea of uninstalling any system apps (honestly, it can cause some serious problems with your device). Best to freeze them using TiBu. Your phone has a ton of system space, and deleting apps can lead to undesired results, with no upside.
Any app that can be frozen from app manager should be done from there first (select disable). The rest, use the freeze option from TiBu (Sprint Zone, Connection Optimizer).
Do one or two at a time, then reboot. See if your phone locks up after some use. If no issues, freeze another clutch of apps. If you do run into trouble, thawing the app is your next move.
I hope this helps.
Good luck!
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oohh okies thanks for the advice.. will do that instead of uninstalling.. yeah.. disable should be free some of the ram usage thanks..
alikhan2004 said:
Sorry for this stupid question but I cant find how to root my note 3 with Sprint without tripping knox or voiding the warranty. I've done so much searching but I only found one root method which is the Kingo app but I heard its not approved by XDA mods because it steals personal information from the phone. Please help
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let me make it simple for you. just search "How to root note 3 without tripping knox" on utube. you will find a video newly added (in April) about it. it has full tutorial performed on camera.
hope it helps
rooting new 4.4.4 NH7 without tripping knox tmobile m919 model
Looking for stwp by step directions on how to pull this off.
You can still use towelroot, but you need to flash back the 4.4.2 NB4 stock kernel through odin. After rooted reflash the new 4.4.4 NH7 stock kernel. There you go, rooted NH7 knox 0x0.
I had long been using a rooted phone before I got the S5, but things seem a little different now. I held off on rooting the S5 because I wanted to be sure that I was going to keep it long term before I did. So yesterday I did some research on here and elsewhere and ended up rooting via towelroot and getting SuperSU installed without flashing. Now I just need to figure out a few things and was hoping to get some help understanding what comes next.
I've been reading about concerns over tripping "Knox" holding folks back from flashing custom recover and ROMs. I'm not a touchwiz fan but I can tolerate it. If there were no cost, I'd probably just install Xposed or something like that but is this Knox thing important? What am I giving up if I flash a custom recovery?
SuperSU "disabled" Knox when I started it. What functions of Knox are disabled? Can I flash recovery and roms without incident now that it is disabled?
Almost as soon as I got done rooting and installing SuperSU last night, I got a notification from samsung saying that "an update is required to access samsung services". Was that triggered by the rooting of the phone? Can I install that update without loosing root access?
Last question: Now that I have root, what do I need to do to keep it? Will it be rolled back by any OTA update, and if so, what must I do to prevent that?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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SuperSU "disabled" Knox when I started it. What functions of Knox are disabled? Can I flash recovery and roms without incident now that it is disabled?
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You wouldn't have had to search or read very far in the forum to find answers to all of your questions. These get asked over and over, pretty much every day.
If you are contemplating a custom recovery, then read a thread about e.g. TWRP to learn about it's advantages. As just one of many advantages, it's the only way that you can make a proper, 100% backup.
Installing a custom recovery will increment Knox because Knox has not been removed from the bootloader. However most people don't obsess about the Knox flag. The only significant downside to the flag is that it might invalidate a minority of warranty claims.
Block e.g. rename or freeze the OTA updater to avoid losing root. An update will generally break it and there is no assurance that you will always be able to reroot. SuperSU Pro has a feature that attempts to restore root after an update.
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Hi all, thanks in advance for any help on this. I have a few general s5 rooting questions. I'm an experienced 'rooter' having rooted and installed custom ROMs on many previous devices.
- I've ready that the s5 has an 'e-fuse' that gets 'blown' when the device is rooted. this then voids the warranty and prevents things like Fort Knox from running. I get that, and understand the risks. But, I've also read that the lollipop update will remove root. These two things seem to contradict themselves.
- on other devices I've rooted, I've then installed a custom ROM. I don't plan to do this with my s5. I haven't been able to find much written on the experience of a rooted s5 running the samsung stock ROM/firmware. I'd like to use something like xposed to change parts of the ROM (like the white background that's so pervasive in the s5 flavor of lollipop). I'm curious if anyone is running lollipop on an s5 that is rooted but running stock samsung firmware and xposed.
thanks!
Rooting won't trip Knox. Installing a custom recovery will. If you have insurance on your device tripping Knox doesn't matter, your covered anyway.
thanks!
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Rooting won't trip Knox. Installing a custom recovery will. If you have insurance on your device tripping Knox doesn't matter, your covered anyway.
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very interesting, thanks! can I run xposed/titanium backup pro/other root things without a custom recovery? all I'm really interested in is modifying Samsung-dictated things (like apps that can't be frozen and colors/elements that can't be changed) + making complete backups to the SD card. If I recall from my previous experiences, a custom recovery was the way to create a nandroid backup...but I think perhaps titanium backup pro can do that from the android front-end (with root).
I assume that I should wait to root until the tmobile s5 gets lollipop? i.e. that update will kill root?
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very interesting, thanks! can I run xposed/titanium backup pro/other root things without a custom recovery? all I'm really interested in is modifying Samsung-dictated things (like apps that can't be frozen and colors/elements that can't be changed) + making complete backups to the SD card. If I recall from my previous experiences, a custom recovery was the way to create a nandroid backup...but I think perhaps titanium backup pro can do that from the android front-end (with root).
I assume that I should wait to root until the tmobile s5 gets lollipop? i.e. that update will kill root?
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Right now there are threads that show you how to get rooted lollipop on your phone without tripping Knox which basically involves downgrading the kernel so you can root with towelroot, then using mobile Odin to flash lollipop and inject root in the process. It seems people are able to do this without issues. To this point, I do not think that anyone has found an exploit for lollipop.
The problem you will run into is that Xposed still does not run on lollipop so you cannot do much in the way of customization. Most of the G900F ROMs can run on the G900T so you might poke around in those threads to pick up more info.
Hope this helps a little.
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very interesting, thanks! can I run xposed/titanium backup pro/other root things without a custom recovery? all I'm really interested in is modifying Samsung-dictated things (like apps that can't be frozen and colors/elements that can't be changed) + making complete backups to the SD card. If I recall from my previous experiences, a custom recovery was the way to create a nandroid backup...but I think perhaps titanium backup pro can do that from the android front-end (with root).
I assume that I should wait to root until the tmobile s5 gets lollipop? i.e. that update will kill root?
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System runtime is different. Art for lollipop compared to dalvik.. So it's not compatible as of now
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This does not work with lollipop
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gspears said:
Right now there are threads that show you how to get rooted lollipop on your phone without tripping Knox which basically involves downgrading the kernel so you can root with towelroot, then using mobile Odin to flash lollipop and inject root in the process. It seems people are able to do this without issues. To this point, I do not think that anyone has found an exploit for lollipop.
The problem you will run into is that Xposed still does not run on lollipop so you cannot do much in the way of customization. Most of the G900F ROMs can run on the G900T so you might poke around in those threads to pick up more info.
Hope this helps a little.
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are you sure ? I have been able to downgrade. towelroot and flash lollipop and it boots but supersu does not work properly. root apps ask permission and supersu grants permission but the apps dont actually work
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Rooting won't trip Knox. Installing a custom recovery will. If you have insurance on your device tripping Knox doesn't matter, your covered anyway.
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I don;t know where you heard that rooting won;'t trip Knox but I beleive you are wrong about that At least I know that Flashing cf auto root - flashing recovery or flashing custom roms all trip knox. If your phone can use Towel Root - that rooting process does not trip knox - but I am not sure if Towel Root works on Lollipop or on the S5 for that matter. (I may be wrong about Towel Root - I have never used that process so I can't say for sure)
Flashing a new rom via ODIN does not trip knox. It is just like getting an UPDATE from the carrier OTA.
BUT, If you are already rooted - you already have tripped knox - flashing Lollipop will remove root - but it will not do anything to change the fact that you tripped knox on your phone already.
As far as I know everything I have said is correct - based on what I have learned thru reading - flashing and using several different samsung phones -
finally, I see a lot of people paranoid as hell about tripping knox - and I can tell you without any hesitation that I have never had a problem getting service or replacements after rooting a phone - there have been a few times back when I first started flashing roms that I had issues with my phone and I took it in and got a replacement without any issue - once I broke my screen and got a replacement then too - both times I was rooted, running custom recovery - etc.
I hope this helps you
I used towel root on NE6. You can downgrade to that via Odin and not trip knox. As far as flashing 5.0 and losing root. I came from Alliance flash Twisted lollipop and kept root. Then used Odin to flash the bootloader and modem for OB1.
Do you still have Knox 0?
How did you flash lollipop?
Pretty easily done with Odin and TWRP.
ALERT! This will void whatever warranty you have. Also, I am not at fault if your phone comes to life..... or dies.
Just need to download Odin (there are forums all over for finding the files.)
Download the TWRP recovery flash file:
http://dl.twrp.me/hltespr/twrp-2.8.6.1-hltespr-4.4.img.tar
Download Chainfire's SuperSU and copy to SD card:
http://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip
Power off phone entirely.
Hold Volume down + home and power the device on, then press Volume up to confirm entering Download Mode.
Open Odin.
Connect Phone to computer.
Wait for drivers to install if not already. May need to obtain Samsung USB drivers (http://androidxda.com/download-samsung-usb-drivers)
When the box shows "COM #", click the PDA button and select the TWRP image file you downloaded. (or other recovery).
Uncheck "Auto Reset"
Click Start.
Once finished, disconnect device.
PULL BATTERY
Power into Recovery first thing first by holding Volume up + Home. (failure to do so will result in the stock recovery being flashed back on boot by the phone)
Recovery will autopatch the ROM to prevent the stock recovery from being rewritten on reboot. (or should)
From inside your recovery, flash the SuperSU update zip.
Reboot and enjoy root!
(I had to try a couple of times through trial and error to get it to stick)
Thank you.
Thank worked like a charm!
Worked first time. Thanks!
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Does doing it this way trip Knox? I read the part about voiding your warranty. I know by having root it voids Samsung warranty.
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Does doing it this way trip Knox? I read the part about voiding your warranty. I know by having root it voids Samsung warranty.
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It does from what I can tell. A stock ROM flash should be able to reset Knox, it did for me, but varied results from other threads on these forums.
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It does from what I can tell. A stock ROM flash should be able to reset Knox, it did for me, but varied results from other threads on these forums.
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Wow your the first person that I have read that was able to reset a blown an efuse American sprint note 3 Knox that way.
I'm reluctant to try it.
And thinking about it it looks like that yes it would looks like it needs a a non stock recovery.
I'll wait.
Looks like we are about to have a deodexed stock rom with root about to drop. From the other thread post in here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3104033
Stock rooted ROMs
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Just to clarify. Once KNOX is tripped there is no reseting it unless the insides are swapped out. When you trip KNOX you blow an e-fuse which is non reversible. However there are ways of upgrading and keeping root without tripping knox, but thats has nothing to do with this
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Just to clarify. Once KNOX is tripped there is no reseting it unless the insides are swapped out. When you trip KNOX you blow an e-fuse which is non reversible. However there are ways of upgrading and keeping root without tripping knox, but thats has nothing to do with this
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so tripping KNOX and blowing the e-fuse is bad, right? so what happens after? does the phone self destruct? and is there a way around it?
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so tripping KNOX and blowing the e-fuse is bad, right? so what happens after? does the phone self destruct? and is there a way around it?
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It's only bad if you care about warranty. Once rooted it will show 0x1 in Download Mode. A Samsung repair Tech or Sprint Repair Tech can see that and refuse to fix your phone
By replying to this post, you acknowledge that you have read and understand the OP including all links included in OP.. Sent from my Galaxy Note 3
very good
Sprint doesn't care. It's more on Samsung go site. Never had a issue with Knox tripped with sprint.
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Got root
Worked a treat on my Note 3 SM-9005 Lollipop, took 1st time no probs.
Knox is tripped but what the hell, I've been living with the stock build up until the Lollipop update.
works fine
I recently upgraded to ok2, and used this same procedure to reroot my phone successfully.
Coming from JellyBean MJ4 firmware would it be safe to flash the pre-rooted OK2 through TWRP?
Flashed fine from NAB and seemed functional enough but I wasn't happy with the Lollipop UI. Reverted to NK4.
Thanks worked from OK2 Stock.
One question... Can I use another SU application? I was trying to use an old wireless tethering application but it is asking me if I am rooted and won't start.
Titanium backup runs fine and says I have root, as does Root Checker.
If not, does anyone have a working wireless tethering application for their Note 3?
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Thanks worked from OK2 Stock.
One question... Can I use another SU application? I was trying to use an old wireless tethering application but it is asking me if I am rooted and won't start.
Titanium backup runs fine and says I have root, as does Root Checker.
If not, does anyone have a working wireless tethering application for their Note 3?
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I use Wi-Fi tether router. It's about $3 and works beautifully. (It does license check I believe)
They haven't updated their language to include lollipop, but as a general rule, whatever it says to do for kitkat will work on lollipop. Under "Configure Router," they have a link to the website with a list of configurations. Just follow that, and you should be good. One thing that I would add is to leave the "lte tether patch" unchecked.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.snclab.wifitetherrouter
You could try finding a newer superuser zip to flash in recovery. I do know that a couple of older ones gave that issue. I personally didn't have any luck with another supersu app, but the last time I tried a different one was on kitKat.
I started to think about rooting my g960f, it is a week year old device and the ads in apps annoys me so much. I will be using root to disable bixby through root uninstaller, if you have any other suggestions please tell. also I will be using mother of adblock, if you have any other suggestions please tell. I still have some questions.
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
I wont be installing custom rom as I already liked the stock rom but it needs some modification. I am sure that most of the people has the same questions in their minds so your answers would help many.
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- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
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As long as all you did was root the phone and did not change the OS to a custom one you should be able to get OTA updates. You should be able to install OTA updates normally, but you will loose the root install and have to do it again. Since OTA updates may patch any exploits a root install tool may use you might not be able to root the phone again (at least not until the root utility is updated to use a different method) after an update, so keep that in mind.
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- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
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Once you root you might very well trip Knox. If Knox is tripped Samsung Pay, Secure folders is what I can find Google Searching and searching the forum here as what wouldn't work Samsung app wise. S-Health would also stop working, but I've read about potential ways to make S-health work again. I am not sure if those ways still work or not.
Other apps (financial, etc) may not work if the phone is rooted..
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- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
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Sort of... Knox secure apps like S-health, Secure Folders, Samsung Pay will not work. Once you trip knox they will not work on the device ever again. This is because once knox is tripped it is tripped, it's a hardware e-fuse. You can not fix it nor reset it.
Other apps that just detected whether root is installed (or being used) should return to normal
thank you so much for the reply, lastly do you any suggestion for rooting? like the best way of doing it or use this guide and such.
Why root the device? You can use Adhell3 and block all the ads using knox itself
Pandemicc said:
thank you so much for the reply, lastly do you any suggestion for rooting? like the best way of doing it or use this guide and such.
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Personally I don't have a suggestion on a root method for your phone, but I do suggest you do some research on the subject. You can also look in the Galaxy S9 topic on XDA as that is the model you said you were using (G960F). In all honesty your gonna want to read up on what the process entails, what issues you might encounter and the risks involved... This is kind of a one way trip (metaphorically and essentially literally speaking) because if you trip knox (which you most likely will) you will void any warranty as well as permanently loose rather useful functionality on the phone (Samsung pay does come in handy IMHO). Not to mention root weakens the security of the phone and if your not careful you could (not saying you will, but could) run into a lot of problems.
Granted I am not saying you shouldn't root your phone but I am suggesting that in your case there is a more simpler method of doing what you want to do. Adhell3 was suggested and it's an app I use as well. Adhell3 will allow you to configure knox to do what you are seeking.. Knox can be configured to serve as a system wide ad blocking and it can be used as a way to disable apps on the phone (including bixby). There is more it can do, but I would suggest reading up on it (I can't give you all the answers, your gonna have to discover them also). Since your not trying to install an custom OS or changing cpu governors, cpu frequencies or anything Xposed related I would suggest looking into Adhell3 since that will do what you want without messing with Knox (or any potential issues with your phone from rooting). Also Adhell3 is not a permanent change to the phone, it can be fully removed, it doesn't weaken the security of the phone by allowing root access to the Android OS and file system on the phone and it will survive OTA updates.
Also if your looking to cut down on advertisements in applications I would suggest not installing as many.. Adblocking whether by hosts file or Adhell3 works by blocking the dns lookup of an advertisement. Both methods are not 100% perfect because if an advertisement comes from the same domain as where you are accessing (like facebook or Youtube sometimes do) then the advertisement will still be shown. Still to cut down on advertisements I would suggest going with Adhell3 over root.
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
Nope, that means also that once you decice to flash custom recovery your knox will be triggered 0x1 in bootloader and it cant be reversed by flashing stock.
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
Most devs here release latest build of their ROMs based on the latest security patches from official stock ROMs. You can just dirty flash the latest build over the previous one.
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
Samsung pay and secure folder. However you can try google pay as an alternative and you can use MagiskHide to make apps work even if the phone is rooted.
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
You can go back to stock, but you wont be able to use the features mentioned above. It's a one way irreversible process.
KevAngelo14 said:
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
Nope, that means also that once you decice to flash custom recovery your knox will be triggered 0x1 in bootloader and it cant be reversed by flashing stock.
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
Most devs here release latest build of their ROMs based on the latest security patches from official stock ROMs. You can just dirty flash the latest build over the previous one.
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
Samsung pay and secure folder. However you can try google pay as an alternative and you can use MagiskHide to make apps work even if the phone is rooted.
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
You can go back to stock, but you wont be able to use the features mentioned above. It's a one way irreversible process.
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Remember to include Xprivacylua to inhibit apps from seeing what apps you have installed. Have helped me out using bank apps as well