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I am buying a New SGS 2, the seller has told me that its factory Unlocked, but I have my doubts that he has De-branded the phone and selling with the name of Factory Unlocked.
Can someone tell me, how would I know if the Seller has Sold me a Debranded phone or a factory Unlocked one?
jjdoctor said:
I am buying a New SGS 2, the seller has told me that its factory Unlocked, but I have my doubts that he has De-branded the phone and selling with the name of Factory Unlocked.
Can someone tell me, how would I know if the Seller has Sold me a Debranded phone or a factory Unlocked one?
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Debrand means no branding on the phone splash scrre apps etc .
Factory unlocked presume its not sim locked to a network will work with any sim card .
jje
JJEgan said:
Debrand means no branding on the phone splash scrre apps etc .
Factory unlocked presume its not sim locked to a network will work with any sim card .
jje
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correct me if im wrong
branded phone = sim locked and apps+ splash screen etc
factory unlocked =phone as is
qwerty warrior said:
correct me if im wrong
branded phone = sim locked and apps+ splash screen etc
Branded means branded be it sim locked or not >>> my phone branded and not sim locked from new .
just like a CPW phone may be branded but not sim locked .
factory unlocked =phone as is Yes and no sim lock thats easy to test by OP trying different sims .
jje
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I think the OP means that he suspects that the seller has bought a branded phone, eg from o2 then used a guide to unlock and debrand.
If this is so, I dont personally know how to check this myself, but I presume you can tell by the imei or by how many stickers are on the box (how many imei stickers, o2 normally have 2)
Also ask for proof of purchase?
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JJEgan said:
qwerty warrior said:
correct me if im wrong
branded phone = sim locked and apps+ splash screen etc
Branded means branded be it sim locked or not >>> my phone branded and not sim locked from new .
just like a CPW phone may be branded but not sim locked .
factory unlocked =phone as is Yes and no sim lock thats easy to test by OP trying different sims .
jje
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well its different in the USA
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qwerty warrior said:
JJEgan said:
well its different in the USA
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Typical .
jje
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jameslfc5 said:
I think the OP means that he suspects that the seller has bought a branded phone, eg from o2 then used a guide to unlock and debrand.
If this is so, I dont personally know how to check this myself, but I presume you can tell by the imei or by how many stickers are on the box (how many imei stickers, o2 normally have 2)
Also ask for proof of purchase?
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lol.. you are the only one who got my question right.. He cant provide me proof of purchase since he is a Re-Seller himself and would consider that as his market secret.
There must be some way De-branded can be differentiated from Factory unlocked ones..
jjdoctor said:
There must be some way De-branded can be differentiated from Factory unlocked ones..
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AFAIK, only by IMEI, and then only if you actually have a valid IMEI database, which is about as likely as this guy selling you an actual unbranded phone (by the sound of it).
jjdoctor said:
lol.. you are the only one who got my question right.. He cant provide me proof of purchase since he is a Re-Seller himself and would consider that as his market secret.
There must be some way De-branded can be differentiated from Factory unlocked ones..
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How much is it mate?
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If I understand it correctly debranding requires the use of Odin to flash an unbranded ROM, so all you'd have to do is check the number of flashes in download mode... I think?
jameslfc5 said:
How much is it mate?
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you the price? its 670$.
I just ordered the Atrix 4G in India through a popuplar newspaper...It will come with Android 2.2...
But my question is, how can I update it to (stock) Official Gingerbread 2.3.anything...
Any help...>??
THanx!
circleofomega said:
I just ordered the Atrix 4G in India through a popuplar newspaper...It will come with Android 2.2...
But my question is, how can I update it to (stock) Official Gingerbread 2.3.anything...
Any help...>??
THanx!
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Download the motorola update tool from the Atrix website
You could also check the Motorola noobs guide; it covers how to unlock and root the phone, which will you be needing
I suggest installing a custom rooms which will work better than the stock version
circleofomega said:
I just ordered the Atrix 4G in India through a popuplar newspaper...It will come with Android 2.2...
But my question is, how can I update it to (stock) Official Gingerbread 2.3.anything...
Any help...>??
THanx!
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Atrix is not officially not launched in India. Where did you ordered the Atrix?
darklord790 said:
Atrix is not officially not launched in India. Where did you ordered the Atrix?
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Indiatimes sells it for 18K
In all likelihood, it would already have GB 2.3.4. So do not worry.
darklord790 said:
Atrix is not officially not launched in India. Where did you ordered the Atrix?
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Indiatimes shopping.com
Blueangel180 said:
Indiatimes sells it for 18K
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Exactly
tamilmad said:
In all likelihood, it would already have GB 2.3.4. So do not worry.
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It doesn't... NOw what do i do??
Is it an Att one? Use the sdcard update method from motorolas site
Try fruit cake method to update. Very simple way to update without any risk.
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circleofomega said:
Indiatimes shopping.com
Exactly
It doesn't... NOw what do i do??
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This phone must have been imported from countries like US or UK, just try find that there is any sign of operator name like At&t, t-Mobile or Orange etc., in the phone box, you can find it. If you find that only you can update your phone.
darklord790 said:
This phone must have been imported from countries like US or UK, just try find that there is any sign of operator name like At&t, t-Mobile or Orange etc., in the phone box, you can find it. If you find that only you can update your phone.
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AT&T is painted all over the damn thing...box,back,OS...yes,I will surely check the box and find out if it is eligible for an upgrade...thanx a lot...appreciate your help...
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crnkoj said:
Is it an Att one? Use the sdcard update method from motorolas site
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Yep it is AT&T...and yes, am going to do it through the SD card method..however, my only question is how will the system readd the update files?? I have downloaded the 161mb or so file, but it is a .zip file...if i have to extract contents, where should i do it? internal or external mem card??
Thank you all for your replies...
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Just use the automated update
http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Android_Products/ATRIX-4G_Software_Update_Page
circleofomega said:
Yep it is AT&T...and yes, am going to do it through the SD card method..however, my only question is how will the system readd the update files?? I have downloaded the 161mb or so file, but it is a .zip file...if i have to extract contents, where should i do it? internal or external mem card??
Thank you all for your replies...
Sent from my Droid RaZr.
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You need to that update file to SD Card only.
Check out this link, they have given step by step guide how to update your AT&T Motorola Atrix.
http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Atrix+Upgrade/Atrix-Gingerbread-Update
Blueangel180 said:
Just use the automated update
http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Android_Products/ATRIX-4G_Software_Update_Page
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My fear, it might recognize the device as an AT&T and might lock it...i prefer doing it offline...like the SD card method...but thanks for your reply man...
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circleofomega said:
My fear, it might recognize the device as an AT&T and might lock it...i prefer doing it offline...like the SD card method...but thanks for your reply man...
Sent from my Droid RaZr.
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The official update will relock the phone. Doesn't matter which method you use
Blueangel180 said:
The official update will relock the phone. Doesn't matter which method you use
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You have scared me all the more man...anyone has counter claims to make against this one?? From what i have heard elsewhere, the update is a phone update...nothing to do with SIM card...
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Sim card? if you're referring to your network you'll still be able to use it after any of these updates.it wont lock the network.it will only lock the bootloader.
If you want to do it through the SD card method remember that you'll first have to update your phone to a newer version of froyo and then update once more to gingerbread. the automated version will save you the hassle.
And btw your warranty is a sellers warranty not manufacturers warranty.so i suggest you unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom, as it wont affect your warranty status.
Blueangel180 said:
Sim card? if you're referring to your network you'll still be able to use it after any of these updates.it wont lock the network.it will only lock the bootloader.
If you want to do it through the SD card method remember that you'll first have to update your phone to a newer version of froyo and then update once more to gingerbread. the automated version will save you the hassle.
And btw your warranty is a sellers warranty not manufacturers warranty.so i suggest you unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom, as it wont affect your warranty status.
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I think there is some confusion and i am to be blamed...i have an AT&T phone, not sure if the bootloader is locked or not...I am in India and am using a GSM SIM card here. Now the phone is Froyo...i want a Gingerbread upgrade. I have discovered two ways, through Wifi and through the SD card...
I currently don't have Wifi...so am planning to go ahead with the SD card method.
+ my fear, if i update it through the wifi, my Network may get blocked again. Here was my actual conusion...but I think i will wait for a while...I am using a Froyo 2.2.2 currently...what is the next version until i get on board the Gingerbread??
Thanx again...
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I think there is some confusion and i am to be blamed...i have an AT&T phone, not sure if the bootloader is locked or not...I am in India and am using a GSM SIM card here. Now the phone is Froyo...i want a Gingerbread upgrade. I have discovered two ways, through Wifi and through the SD card...
I currently don't have Wifi...so am planning to go ahead with the SD card method.
+ my fear, if i update it through the wifi, my Network may get blocked again. Here was my actual conusion...but I think i will wait for a while...I am using a Froyo 2.2.2 currently...what is the next version until i get on board the Gingerbread??
Thanx again...
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I think you can use the Motorola update software from their website. It should be able to update your OS fine. I don't remember the name of their software but u can easily lookup for it.
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Hi guys, I have an old S4 that I would like to SIM unlock. The phone is not on my contract so I cannot call up verizon and ask them for the SIM unlock code. I have been doing some reading and if I can get into the service mode or service menu there appears to be a setting to do this.
My ultimate goal is to use this abroad later this year with prepaid SIM cards in different countries.
From my reading, the service codes were blocked by Samsung/Verizon at some point. My questions is what version of Android and what modem allowed service menu access? I have tried KK and L with the MK2 and MDK modems but no go.
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I should mention that I have tried the hidden menu enable MOD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303905
But, again I think this is dependent on the ROM/Modem version, no?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
mattwood2000 said:
Hi guys, I have an old S4 that I would like to SIM unlock. The phone is not on my contract so I cannot call up verizon and ask them for the SIM unlock code. I have been doing some reading and if I can get into the service mode or service menu there appears to be a setting to do this.
My ultimate goal is to use this abroad later this year with prepaid SIM cards in different countries.
From my reading, the service codes were blocked by Samsung/Verizon at some point. My questions is what version of Android and what modem allowed service menu access? I have tried KK and L with the MK2 and MDK modems but no go.
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I should mention that I have tried the hidden menu enable MOD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303905
But, again I think this is dependent on the ROM/Modem version, no?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Any of those happen to be touchwiz?
bryantjopplin said:
Any of those happen to be touchwiz?
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Can't remember, but good news is I figured it out!
I used the stock rooted ROM from way back in the beginning of the development forum.
Thanks for the reply though!
mattwood2000 said:
Can't remember, but good news is I figured it out!
I used the stock rooted ROM from way back in the beginning of the development forum.
Thanks for the reply though!
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Well lollipop isn't out yet on touchwiz for jftltevzw model. That's why I asked
bryantjopplin said:
Well lollipop isn't out yet on touchwiz for jftltevzw model. That's why I asked
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OK, have another question. On the MDK radio I was able to SIM unlock the device. If I upgrade the radio to a newer version will I lose the unlocked SIM state?
Thanks, Matt.
mattwood2000 said:
OK, have another question. On the MDK radio I was able to SIM unlock the device. If I upgrade the radio to a newer version will I lose the unlocked SIM state?
Thanks, Matt.
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No clue sorry, I have never done it.
bryantjopplin said:
No clue sorry, I have never done it.
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Looks like the SIM lock state survives a modem flash - I tried flashing NK1 and then back to MDK and it persisted. I did this because now I'm having an issue where my unlocked phone only gets data and cannot make phone calls. Says voice is out of service but data is in service. But SIM in another phone works just fine.
Tried a few things but no go. I'm about to leave the country today so I guess I'll find out when I get abroad and try a GSM SIM, unless anyone has any comments on this.
Thanks, Matt.
Anyone know or have insight?
Won't know until the phone is in the hands of the tinkerers. It has been that way, FWIW, since the GS7/GS7E.
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optimummind said:
Won't know until the phone is in the hands of the tinkerers. It has been that way, FWIW, since the GS7/GS7E.
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Hopefully we find out soon. I have an at&t version I want to install TMobile or unlocked firmware coming around the 16th :fingers-crossed:
BoboBrazil said:
Anyone know or have insight?
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Check the S8/S8+ fourms
It works. I just flashed the unlocked firmware on my Verizon model. Only issue I'm having is trying to figure out how to access IMS Settings, can't access through nova or shortcut master. Visual voicemail works.
cdcaish said:
It works. I just flashed the unlocked firmware on my Verizon model. Only issue I'm having is trying to figure out how to access IMS Settings, can't access through nova or shortcut master. Visual voicemail works.
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Can i do it vice versa, like flash carrier firmware on unlocked model. Will it trip knox and will i lose warranty?
yeltrah123 said:
Can i do it vice versa, like flash carrier firmware on unlocked model. Will it trip knox and will i lose warranty?
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Hello,
NO, flashing carrier's firmware on unlocked model dosen't trip knox, so you don't lose warranty.
Grettings,
SwitchDeath
SwitchDeath said:
Hello,
NO, flashing carrier's firmware on unlocked model dosen't trip knox, so you don't lose warranty.
Grettings,
SwitchDeath
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Ok thanks because I saw the carrier versions were model # SM-G965U and I was worried because I have model SM-G965U1.
yeltrah123 said:
Ok thanks because I saw the carrier versions were model # SM-G965U and I was worried because I have model SM-G965U1.
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You welcome, you don't have to worry, flashing SM-G965U firmware on your SM-G965U1 model will work anyway.
Grettings,
SwitchDeath
SwitchDeath said:
You welcome, you don't have to worry, flashing SM-G965U firmware on your SM-G965U1 model will work anyway.
Grettings,
SwitchDeath
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ok
I am happy to report that after flashing the Sprint firmware on my unlocked S9+ it worked with no issues and knox was not tripped. I've noticed that even though the Sprint splashscreen didn't show up at boot, while in setup the phone did detect the exact carrier I was on (Boost Mobile) and the phone showed the Boost Mobile splashscreen upon reboot and all the Boost Mobile apps as well as some bloatware loaded onto the phone as if it were a phone I purchased through them. But one issue I still notice since when I first bought the phone is the fact that the data speeds are slow in my area, but when I had an LG Stylo 3 from Boost in the area now where I see the slow data speeds, the LG didn't have that issue. I thought flashing carrier firmware would fix that problem. When I am in other parts in NYC out from where I live, ex: Manhattan, Brooklyn; I don't see no slow speeds I get true, fast 4G LTE. I guess it's a software issue Samsung can fix in the next update?
Anyone have link for modified Odin just in case I decide to flash iunlocked S9+ firmware back on my phone?
Hi, i have bought unlocked galaxy s23 ultra from usa. And now im in india. Will i still get the software updates since my phone is from usa?
jason.antao said:
Hi, i have bought unlocked galaxy s23 ultra from usa. And now im in india. Will i still get the software updates since my phone is from usa?
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"Factory Unlocked Phones are not made for a specific carrier thus are unlocked out the factory. These phones can be used on ANY GSM carrier as long as the phone carriers the band widths that carrier supports."
In simple words yes It should work with no problems. However It depends on band widths your carrier supports.
About software updates you will receive everything. Don't worry
jason.antao said:
Hi, i have bought unlocked galaxy s23 ultra from usa. And now im in india. Will i still get the software updates since my phone is from usa?
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You may have to change the CSC to India for everything to work nicely.
TheMystic said:
You may have to change the CSC to India for everything to work nicely.
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Impossible...as the firmware only carries CSCs of the US. U and U1....
TheMystic said:
You may have to change the CSC to India for everything to work nicely.
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But even if i don't change th csc, i should normally get the updats from us
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But even if i don't change th csc, i should normally get the updats from us
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Depends....every carrier releases at different times. If you want to stay updated the fastest. Then download and flash who ever comes first then change the CSC to your preference.
Klaudas said:
"Factory Unlocked Phones are not made for a specific carrier thus are unlocked out the factory. These phones can be used on ANY GSM carrier as long as the phone carriers the band widths that carrier supports."
In simple words yes It should work with no problems. However It depends on band widths your carrier supports.
About software updates you will receive everything. Don't worry
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What if i factory reset my phone and than insert sim card from my country?
jason.antao said:
What if i factory reset my phone and than insert sim card from my country?
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It should work without factory reset
jason.antao said:
Hi, i have bought unlocked galaxy s23 ultra from usa. And now im in india. Will i still get the software updates since my phone is from usa?
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Yes, You will get update when curruntly set CSC gets update. (You can check from Settings - about phone - Software Info)
Though If your device is S918U/U1 may some network features won't work expected, specifically Jio.
Klaudas said:
It should work without factory reset
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Now the sim is working fine. Only thing i want to change csc
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But even if i don't change th csc, i should normally get the updats from us
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Getting updates should not be a problem. Some things may not work unless you change the CSC.
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It should work without factory reset
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My phone from another region was not reading the SIM card. Once I changed the CSC, it did.
wr3cckl3ss1 said:
Impossible...as the firmware only carries CSCs of the US. U and U1....
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Not sure about now, but few years back I changed the CSC of my device to make it detect the SIM card. It wasn't from the USA though.
The option you're referring to is now housed in Preconfig.
MPS CODE.
Enable it....to prevent your CSC from changing over when you put in any sim card. Disable it and it will always change.
wr3cckl3ss1 said:
The option you're referring to is now housed in Preconfig.
MPS CODE.
Enable it....to prevent your CSC from changing over when you put in any sim card. Disable it and it will always change.
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I tried to get this menu using this code on dialer app *#272*IMEI# . But it says invalid
I too got s23 ultra from USA and I'm using in India. We will get regular updates don't worry. Today morning I got may month's security update.
jason.antao said:
Hi, i have bought unlocked galaxy s23 ultra from usa. And now im in india. Will i still get the software updates since my phone is from usa?
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You can't change csc to INS, unless rooted.
jason.antao said:
Now the sim is working fine. Only thing i want to change csc
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