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Hi, This is my first post and i need help, I was texting with my new phone (SGS3) in the stock messaging app, and i wrote an SMS (4 Pages) and suddenly the SMS was automatically converted to MMS, and there is no option to disable this horrible and ridiculous feature, and theres also no option to turn it off! So how can this be possible? Such an expenssive phone, and you cant even write freely an SMS??? Why is there a limit of 3 pages? I was wondering if someone could do a MOD to fix this! I had the same problem with the galaxy note, and there was a little mod that could fix that, so i think im not the only one that want this fixed! (i dont like custom ROMS or anything like that, and i dont like apps like GoSMS, or stuff like that, i just like the stock messaging app, but with the fix) i just want PLEASE a little mod to fix this BIG problem. (Sorry for my english)
Sms are limited to 160 characters. Otherwise it has to be sent as an Mms.
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jiggytom said:
Sms are limited to 160 characters. Otherwise it has to be sent as an Mms.
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Thats not what i asked for, i mean.. im coming from an iphone 4s and that never happened, in fact it never happened to me in all the phones i have had!! So, i dont see the point of converting an SMS automatically to MMS just because i write more than 3 pages, thats just ridiculous But the thing is, that i would like to know if someone could do a MOD for the stock messaging app to fix that and make it without characters restrictions! To explain it better this is what i want for my phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371755
no one texts anymore, use whatsapp or some sort of instant messaging
jiggytom said:
Sms are limited to 160 characters. Otherwise it has to be sent as an Mms.
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i'm pretty sure that's not how it works, SMS longer than 160 characters get sent as multiple SMS which then then recombined back into one sms on the recipients phone. I've had the issue before when one part of a multi SMS message was delayed causing me to have the first or second half only and when the other one arrived sometime later the phone still knew to combined them together.
MMS is only when you attach a picture, video or voice clip to the message.
I have just tested what the OP has said and its true, if you type a long SMS, after the 3rd set of 260 characters, (there is a counter just above the send icon) it then gets converted to a MMS
But to the OP, I do wonder why you would want to type such a long SMS on a regular basis? you can also just send the sms at 3 pages then send a new one.
Can't you just send after every two pages. Yeah, it cost more but it will solve your issue.
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electric0ant said:
i'm pretty sure that's not how it works, SMS longer than 160 characters get sent as multiple SMS which then then recombined back into one sms on the recipients phone. I've had the issue before when one part of a multi SMS message was delayed causing me to have the first or second half only and when the other one arrived sometime later the phone still knew to combined them together.
MMS is only when you attach a picture, video or voice clip to the message.
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Sms are limited to 160 characters (Per Page), And when you write more than 3 Pages, it will automatically convert your SMS to MMS without asking or option to disable, it will just convert it to MMS. (it will convert it even if you dont attach ANYTHING, Even if it just based on text)
Use Go sms... But this is stupid...
S3 shouldn't do that...
Lol at the Wattsapp suggestions
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Wow I just realised that there is no option to cancel this 'feature' after I read your thread.
I do hope this is resolved since for those on Payandgo networks, like me, MMS isn't always free whereas practically even mobile plan has free SMS. Defeats the objective here, you can send very long SMS texts (counts as more than 1 but still sends fine) from other phones no problem. On the galaxy nexus it was possible to disable this SMStoMMS converting problem easily, I hope the devs come up with a workaround..
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Who still has data rates for SMS and MMS? I thought this stuff was free now? In Australia SMS for free is pretty much standard and most plans have at least $500 of credit included, an MMS costs max 0.50c, is this seriously an issue? Just use a different messegeing ap or use an instant messenger.
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danben7 said:
Who still has data rates for SMS and MMS? I thought this stuff was free now? In Australia SMS for free is pretty much standard and most plans have at least $500 of credit included, an MMS costs max 0.50c, is this seriously an issue? Just use a different messegeing ap or use an instant messenger.
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Im Living in Nicaragua, Managua (Central America) There are no MMS plans here.. Just SMS! So this is a BIG issue for a lot of people! I dont like those ugly apps like Go sms... and stuff like that.they are horrible! Plus... i guess a developer can easily fix that issue! it has already been made in other phones! Heres what im talking about : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371755
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lol, i think he meant "use email"
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Im Living in Nicaragua, Managua (Central America) There are no MMS plans here.. Just SMS! So this is a BIG issue for a lot of people! I dont like those ugly apps like Go sms... and stuff like that.they are horrible! Plus... i guess a developer can easily fix that issue! it has already been made in other phones! Heres what im talking about : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371755
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Guys, am I right in saying that this was always a problem with stock messaging app? Hence most custom ROMs have a modded 'No MMS convert' message app? I remember this limitation on my stock SGS2 back in the day - dont remember this ever happening to me after custom roms.... or maybe I never sent over 3 pages.......
I just tried Texting over 311 characters from my SGS2 to my SGS3 and them back..........No MMS converting.... One whole page too....
Therefore this is not a problem with custom ROMs...
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Guys, am I right in saying that this was always a problem with stock messaging app? Hence most custom ROMs have a modded 'No MMS convert' message app? I remember this limitation on my stock SGS2 back in the day - dont remember this ever happening to me after custom roms.... or maybe I never sent over 3 pages.......
I just tried Texting over 311 characters from my SGS2 to my SGS3 and them back..........No MMS converting.... One whole page too....
Therefore this is not a problem with custom ROMs...
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The issue is just with the stock messaging app in Stock firmwares (with no custom ROMS) i dont like custom roms, thats why i need a mod to fix this! ***custom roms doesnt have this problems because they fix it***
SMS is for short messages.
If you are writing a book use email
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You can install gosms which have more options to configure or install the mod to deactivate that problem...
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Try using Handcent SMS app. It has that specific option to prevent auto converting to MMS.
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3pgs of sms....
THREE PAGES.
OF SMS.
Thank you for the amusement, OP. I'll be taking my +1 now.
I have been scouring the internet and various forums for an answer to this issue. I have been having some serious MMS compression on all of the AOSP ROMs I have used, namely Orca, LiquidSmooth and Carbon. This stands for any SMS app I use as well, even GO SMS where you can disable MMS compression and such. Is this a common issue, or is there perhaps something up with my phone and/or data connection? Any help on the subject would be appreciated, as sending screenshots make them illegible and pictures just look really pixelated and bad, it's quite annoying. Thanks in advance!
In go sms... Did you do into mms settings and check preserve image resolution? My images were horrible as well until I changed that. If it is not checked, go sms will resize it automatically.
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koreankabachy said:
In go sms... Did you do into mms settings and check preserve image resolution? My images were horrible as well until I changed that. If it is not checked, go sms will resize it automatically.
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Yeah, I have that checked, it still makes the images all blurry and grainy. I'm not sure what the issue is here. I may flash it back to stock and see if the problem persists there. I was just thinking maybe there is an issue with the AOSP SMS apps on the Note 2 or something, but no one seems to be having any issues with this as far as I can tell, as I haven't really been getting feedback. It may just be an isolated issue with me.
only other setting i can think of is in MMS setting (go sms)...changing the Maximum MMS size. i have mine set to 1.2M and can send screen shots with no issue.
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only other setting i can think of is in MMS setting (go sms)...changing the Maximum MMS size. i have mine set to 1.2M and can send screen shots with no issue.
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Yeah, I've tried that already as well. I even changed it to the largest size possible in the Go SMS settings. Not sure what the problem is.
Edit: I do notice you are using Jelly Beans ROM. Are you using the AOSP SMS app as stock or the TW SMS app? Because as I stated before, I think it may be related to the AOSP SMS app on the Note 2 for some odd reason. I realize you are using GO as your SMS app, but what do you have installed as stock?
VZW will resize the image on the network side. You could send a 10MP image, but it would still arrive tiny on the other end. Don't think there is really anything you can do about it either.
I am on jelly Bean's Rom right now but was on asop prior and worked fine
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VZW will resize the image on the network side. You could send a 10MP image, but it would still arrive tiny on the other end. Don't think there is really anything you can do about it either.
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Well I never had compression issues like this with my GNex at all. I'm at a loss ha ha.
Well, Messaging will compress the image to adhere to VZW's network side restrictions. You could change it so that messaging sends the full image, the AFAIK, the recipient still gets a crappy small image if it is oversized.
So I always thought other peoples phones just sent a picture at a smaller resolution but last night my buddy and I recieved the same picture at the same time from someone and his was at a much higher resolution. He was using the stock SMS program and I was using Handcent. I uninstalled Handcent and had the person resend the picture so I would get it via the stock program and the picture came at a higher resolution, but not as great as the other persons. I was using my T-Mobile HTC One and he was using a Verizon HTC One X.
I was thinking it was maybe a T-Mobile thing limiting the MMS size, but today I sent a picture to both my wife and myself to compare. Hers is the Nexus 4 and I have the HTC One.
The original size of the picture being sent (after being compressed by the texting app is 235KB and 1909x1080.
My wife received that picture at 235KB @ 1909x1080 and I received the picture at 405KB 1023x579.
Does anyone have an explanation for why it's coming in like that and a fix for it? This was on the stock texting program on the phones.
Also FWIW, when Handcent is installed and I send from the stock app to myself and Handcent recieves the picture, it comes in at 188KB @ 639x362. I'm no longer a Handcent user. None of the other SMS apps did this.
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So I always thought other peoples phones just sent a picture at a smaller resolution but last night my buddy and I recieved the same picture at the same time from someone and his was at a much higher resolution. He was using the stock SMS program and I was using Handcent. I uninstalled Handcent and had the person resend the picture so I would get it via the stock program and the picture came at a higher resolution, but not as great as the other persons. I was using my T-Mobile HTC One and he was using a Verizon HTC One X.
I was thinking it was maybe a T-Mobile thing limiting the MMS size, but today I sent a picture to both my wife and myself to compare. Hers is the Nexus 4 and I have the HTC One.
The original size of the picture being sent (after being compressed by the texting app is 235KB and 1909x1080.
My wife received that picture at 235KB @ 1909x1080 and I received the picture at 405KB 1023x579.
Does anyone have an explanation for why it's coming in like that and a fix for it? This was on the stock texting program on the phones.
Also FWIW, when Handcent is installed and I send from the stock app to myself and Handcent recieves the picture, it comes in at 188KB @ 639x362. I'm no longer a Handcent user. None of the other SMS apps did this.
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I can only think of it being a setting that is limiting the size of the file. Maybe try another SMS app and see if you can change the size of the file you get. Most of the time there is settings that let you limit sizes for data reasons.
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I can only think of it being a setting that is limiting the size of the file. Maybe try another SMS app and see if you can change the size of the file you get. Most of the time there is settings that let you limit sizes for data reasons.
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I've tried stock, handcent, go sms, and chomp sms and had similiar results. I see you have the Nexus 4 and HTC One as well. Is it possible to test yourself and see if you get the same results?
urmystlkal said:
I've tried stock, handcent, go sms, and chomp sms and had similiar results. I see you have the Nexus 4 and HTC One as well. Is it possible to test yourself and see if you get the same results?
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I am waiting for HTC to ship me my phone. I did a trade in program with T-Mo as a Rep i was able to trade in my N4 for a full repalcement with a HTC One should be here later this week. If you are unlocked and have a custom recovery maybe try a nanodroid and install a different rom and see how that is. You can always go back with the backup. I don't really use MMS.
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I am waiting for HTC to ship me my phone. I did a trade in program with T-Mo as a Rep i was able to trade in my N4 for a full repalcement with a HTC One should be here later this week. If you are unlocked and have a custom recovery maybe try a nanodroid and install a different rom and see how that is. You can always go back with the backup. I don't really use MMS.
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Oh okay, nice! I haven't rooted yet so I'm still on the stock rom. Wonder what the deal is
HTC is letting current t-mo RSA's as well as sprint, and at&t to trade in there high end phone for free HTC one. It is only for RSA's.
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Maybe this. Happened to me on my One X when getting pics from an iPhone 4.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/203150-mms-messages-very-small.html
I called HTC yesterday about it. The guy was able to duplicate and said he play with it and see what he came up w/ and should call me back today. There's no reason that this phone should be getting a picture at 435x767 resolution when other phones are getting it at 1088x1920. That's unacceptable.
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Maybe this. Happened to me on my One X when getting pics from an iPhone 4.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/203150-mms-messages-very-small.html
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Hey I'm trying to install the apk and it asks if I would like to replace the system app, I say okay and hit install, then it says app not installed, an existing package by the same name with a conflicting signature is already installed.
So then with a file manager with root access, i tried copy and pasting the MMS.apk into the system/app folder and it will not paste. Any advice?
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Hey I'm trying to install the apk and it asks if I would like to replace the system app, I say okay and hit install, then it says app not installed, an existing package by the same name with a conflicting signature is already installed.
So then with a file manager with root access, i tried copy and pasting the MMS.apk into the system/app folder and it will not paste. Any advice?
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Stock /system is not r/w you need to flash a kernel that allows r/w to system. I wouldn't recommend trying to replace the stock messaging app with MMS.apk, might cause undesired results.
Possible to extract default.xml from SYSTEM/CUSTOMIZE/MNS and upload so I can take a look at it?
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PM'd it to you.
So it seems on a vertical picture,the One will receive is 434x767 resolution and on a horizontal picture it's 1023x579. Keep in mind the compressed picture that the messaging app sent out was 1520x2688 and 2688x1520 respectably. I've seen these numbers multiple times.
It boggles my mind how this is their high end phone and other phones are able to recieve the high resolution pictures via text and this one can not and HTC's answer to me was "basically going to have to deal with it or get another phone". That was an unacceptable answer for me.
My 2688x1520 gets recieved at 1909x1080 and I received a verticle one at it's original size. Only thing I noticed was that the verticle image size was under 1mb originally, therefor requiring no compression. T-mobile sets it's mms limit a 1000k so Im assuming size recieved depends on amount of compression required.
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My 2688x1520 gets recieved at 1909x1080 and I received a verticle one at it's original size. Only thing I noticed was that the verticle image size was under 1mb originally, therefor requiring no compression. T-mobile sets it's mms limit a 1000k so Im assuming size recieved depends on amount of compression required.
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I'm glad to hear that, at least it shows it's possible. I can't get anywhere close to that obviously. All the pictures are under 1000k, I'm not sure what the problem is. Was this with the stock messaging app or a different one?
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I'm glad to hear that, at least it shows it's possible. I can't get anywhere close to that obviously. All the pictures are under 1000k, I'm not sure what the problem is. Was this with the stock messaging app or a different one?
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Stock, by the way I'm running the ARHD 7.1 ROM using a default.XML file inside SYSTEM\CUSTOMIZE\MNS from Energy's T-Mobile One S ROM.
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I've had the same problem day one with this phone. I don't get it. Pictures come in way smaller than they should it's so annoying. This is is especially true when receiving screenshots. I'll attach some examples.
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Aaand this is why I use gmail. I've had several phones with that problem
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I would like to know how to send a full sized MMS on sprint's network. Even if I install a rom that can send up to 5M, I notice the receiver always gets something along the lines of 200kb. I have tried both GoSMS and Handcent to send pictures, and neither work even when put at full size in options. So far the only way I've acheived this is to use Handcent's personal network, upload the picture there, then send someone the link to which they download from. Now this is rather inconvenient, as some of my friends don't have smartphones yet, so it's hard for them to view the file. I''d also prefer to not email pictures, as it's just very slow and difficult. Can anyone explain how to fix this? Thank you
I guess nobody knows...
Try this work around I posted elsewhere and it's helped a few people......
Add a random pic to the message (it will probably be a small file like you say), then add the picture you actually want to send (should be way bigger according to message size number, ie: goes from 200kb to 1375kb etc). Now long press on the first pic and remove it.....you SHOULD be left with the second pic and the size should be the original size of the pic 1375-200=1175kb.
Let me know if that works.
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onefasttreopro said:
Try this work around I posted elsewhere and it's helped a few people......
Add a random pic to the message (it will probably be a small file like you say), then add the picture you actually want to send (should be way bigger according to message size number, ie: goes from 200kb to 1375kb etc). Now long press on the first pic and remove it.....you SHOULD be left with the second pic and the size should be the original size of the pic 1375-200=1175kb.
Let me know if that works.
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Hmm it didn't work... Also, cm10.1 doesnt allow me to attatch more than one picture for some reason. I can either send, remove, or replace
Ooooh, yea cm10 I'm not familiar with. I'm sorry, I'm on sense 5 atm...that workaround works for sense 4+.....in sense 5 the pics send full size off the bat with no issues...
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All the AOSP roms seem to play funny with mms. I couldn't find a solution and tried quite a few things. Sense Rom was my solution.
I'd like to know if anyone else gets a text about the receiver having a size limit and your mms not going through?
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All the AOSP roms seem to play funny with mms. I couldn't find a solution and tried quite a few things. Sense Rom was my solution.
I'd like to know if anyone else gets a text about the receiver having a size limit and your mms not going through?
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Nope, never heard of such a thing.. at least from my end
I've received those notifications but only if sending a MMS to someone with a different carrier that sprint
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I've received those notifications but only if sending a MMS to someone with a different carrier that sprint
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Is that what it is? I guess that makes sense. Most people I know are on Verizon.
Hello all...my question is if anyone knows of a mod available to boost the maximum size of MMS or change the amount that photos are compressed? I have many friends who notice my pictures look like garbage when I send it to them via MMS. Especially when zooming in on the photo. I have compared side by side and it's not the 4 MP camera, it's definitely the compression. I checked in my settings and i have the maximum size available selected.
I am running skyfall ROM by iBastid, s-off, rooted with elemental 0.18 sense kernel.
Thanks All for any suggestions on how to get some better MMS quality!
I don't have an answer for you in regards to the stock messaging app but all I can recommend to you is to use Google Hangouts for MMS.
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I tried using the hangouts app is well and I had no success with it as far as changing the compression of pictures.
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Discovered the world of XPOSED today and the Sense 6 toolbox has a mod to increase MMS size up to 1000k, problem solved!
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Discovered the world of XPOSED today and the Sense 6 toolbox has a mod to increase MMS size up to 1000k, problem solved!
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FYI, this doesn't solve your problem. It just raises the max size, but the Messaging app still compresses down to ridiculous amounts. You might have noticed, before you even adjusted your max size, it wasn't even sending 300k, it compresses down to like 70k.
I still get stuff like 90k/1000k in most cases. It is garbage. Only way I can see right now is to use a different messaging app, but I would prefer to use the stock app.
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FYI, this doesn't solve your problem. It just raises the max size, but the Messaging app still compresses down to ridiculous amounts. You might have noticed, before you even adjusted your max size, it wasn't even sending 300k, it compresses down to like 70k.
I still get stuff like 90k/1000k in most cases. It is garbage. Only way I can see right now is to use a different messaging app, but I would prefer to use the stock app.
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Yeah I noticed the same thing, still garbage. I just never posted back. I am able to get some pictures to post with 800k but most are like 80 or 90. Haven't found any good solution at all
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TheEmpyre said:
Yeah I noticed the same thing, still garbage. I just never posted back. I am able to get some pictures to post with 800k but most are like 80 or 90. Haven't found any good solution at all
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I put in a feature request on the sense toolbox page. Maybe they can figure it out.
I am beyond irritated with this same issue. It's not Tmobile that's compressing ititit's the phone. If you attached a pic that is less than 1000K (ex. 900K),it doesn't compress. But if youuuse a pic over 1000K, it compresses the heck out of it to like 150K. HTC needs to provide a fix for this!