My wife's Evo kept failing the 3.17 OTA so I moonshined it this week to allow her to get on latest firmware and software. She is stock other than S-off and root. I am fully aware that the firmware/radio and software are two different things. After getting S-off I flashed the current 3.17 bootloader firmware from Captain's thread and all went well and she is now on 1.13.11.0830 radio. Now I want to get her the software updates to move her from 3.16.651.xx to 3.17.651.4. My question is how to best do this. My thought is to flash the stock rooted deodexed rom but I didn't know if there was an alternative better way. Also, considering that an OTA upgrade of software is a dirty flash sort of, can I dirty flash stock rooted 3.17 over her current 3.16 without doing full wipe. Yes, I realize full wipe would be best and I am willing to do that if dirty flash is a mess. But, for time saving, is there any real danger in dirty flashing stock rooted 3.17 over her current stock rom with s-off and root? It just seems to me to be the rooted equivalalent of taking the OTA update.
Thanks for any advice.
evoimevo said:
My wife's Evo kept failing the 3.17 OTA so I moonshined it this week to allow her to get on latest firmware and software. She is stock other than S-off and root. I am fully aware that the firmware/radio and software are two different things. After getting S-off I flashed the current 3.17 bootloader firmware from Captain's thread and all went well and she is now on 1.13.11.0830 radio. Now I want to get her the software updates to move her from 3.16.651.xx to 3.17.651.4. My question is how to best do this. My thought is to flash the stock rooted deodexed rom but I didn't know if there was an alternative better way. Also, considering that an OTA upgrade of software is a dirty flash sort of, can I dirty flash stock rooted 3.17 over her current 3.16 without doing full wipe. Yes, I realize full wipe would be best and I am willing to do that if dirty flash is a mess. But, for time saving, is there any real danger in dirty flashing stock rooted 3.17 over her current stock rom with s-off and root? It just seems to me to be the rooted equivalalent of taking the OTA update.
Thanks for any advice.
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Your firmware is updated.
Software is based on the rom you are running if you flash a 3.17 rom you will be updated in that area also.
As for dirty flashing it's not a good idea to dirty flash when going to a new base
thanks bigdaddy, I appreciate the response. Is there any downside to being on older software and newer firmware? I thought Captain TB or someone had said that the firmware and software are optimized to work together and shouldn't be out of sync. If that is the case I probably need to bite the bullet and go ahead and wipe and flash the stock rooted deodexed rom to get her the software update.
bigdaddy619 said:
Your firmware is updated.
Software is based on the rom you are running if you flash a 3.17 rom you will be updated in that area also.
As for dirty flashing it's not a good idea to dirty flash when going to a new base
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Is it just me... Other than stock rooted 3.17, I'm not seeing any custom roms for this base. Im still using mean bean.
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lanewhit said:
Is it just me... Other than stock rooted 3.17, I'm not seeing any custom roms for this base. Im still using mean bean.
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I think it is kind of what bigdaddy was saying and what CTB has said...3.17 is the software update that brought the firmware update if done OTA. I believe what CTB did was extract the firmware so people could update the radio/firmware without installing the OTA or stock 3.17 ROM. So, you can have latest radio/firmware with CM10.2 for instance. In my case, my wife wants to keep stock as much as possible so I was trying to figure out best way to get her to most recent stock software without taking it OTA. I think the way to do that is going to be to flash 3.17 stock rooted rom. As you mentioned I haven't seen many/any roms built from 3.17 source if it has even been released at all yet. I moved to CM roms long ago and haven't used any Sense roms since meanbean 3.09 which last I checked hadn't been updated in months. There are plenty of CM10.2 based ROMs available that have tons of updates and fixes. I left my wife's stock because otherwise I get blamed every time Sprint or htc messes something up. This way I can say I didn't touch her phone. By s-off and rooting it and installing stock rooted deodexed I am opening myself back up to her wrath but so be it. It's better than her telling me 4 times a day that her phones says an update is ready but fails every time she tries to install it OTA. It's all about path of least pain. LOL.
I would flash the new rooted base. As I mentioned before, I'm on mean bean 3.09 with the updated firmware from the Captains thread and all has been working great.
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lanewhit said:
I would flash the new rooted base. As I mentioned before, I'm on mean bean 3.09 with the updated firmware from the Captains thread and all has been working great.
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Cool. Thanks for that info. I think I am going to do a twrp backup and a dirty flash of stock rooted first. I know that's not the best and most advisable route but dirty flashing is underrated. If things are wonky I will wipe and factory reset and flash again. Dirty flashing a new base on top of the old isn't THAT much different than getting the software update OTA. I trust dirty flashing more than I trust Sprint to be able to seamlessly deliver it. Probably do it tonight while she's asleep and see if she notices anything different tomorrow. I'll just blame Halloween spooks and goblins if things go wrong.
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There is lots of concern about kernels and flashing them with various main versions. There are 3 basic main versions floating around:
Shipped Rezound - Main Version = 1.02.605.6
OTA Rezound - Main Version = 2.01.605.11
Leaked RUU for Android 4.0.3 - Main Version = 3.10.605.7
I am not going to mess with the leaked RUU for 4.0.3 but I can help with the other two. So, all of the following can be flashed in recovery and will install the library then reboot to bootloader to install the boot.img.
This will at least help you install a complete kernel for whatever situation you are in to cure things like WiFi broken.
Choose the one that best fits your situation, copy it to your SD Card, reboot to recovery and choose the Install Zip option. When it reboots to bootloader press power to start and then follow the instructions.
Currently running a Gingerbread ROM before installing the OTA:
Main Version = 1.02.605.6
Currently running a ICS ROM before installing the OTA:
Main Version = 1.02.605.6
Currently running a Gingerbread ROM after installing the OTA:
Main Version = 2.01.605.11
Currently running a ICS ROM after installing the OTA:
Main Version = 2.01.605.11
NOTE: You must be HTC UnLocked
If you are running the stock OTA stick with that kernel
By the way,
The GB kernel is the unlocked kernel for ADB when phone is active.
The ICS kernel is the one for ICS 4.0.1
thanks for writing this up Nils, I think it will save alot of problems and questions arising from flashing different roms !
thanks man!
are these stock kernels??
andybones said:
thanks man!
are these stock kernels??
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GB is unlocked but other than that they are stock
Wow, you just helped soooo many people. :thumbup:
Good work! :beer:
What if I have
Kernel version: 3.0.13-gaf15497
Build number: 3.10.605.7
I want to get back to GB so I can unroot, relock, and get the OTA's new radio?
BBEgo said:
What if I have
Kernel version: 3.0.13-gaf15497
Build number: 3.10.605.7
I want to get back to GB so I can unroot, relock, and get the OTA's new radio?
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I assume your at the 3.x main version then. I can get you to the stock kernel but can't change the main version with this approach. You could try the gb kernel from the released version and see if you get the mainver failure. If you do you can use the manual approach to get to mainver back to 1.02.605.6
I'm currently on rooted stock shipped Rezound, no OTA. I'm having trouble flashing back to CleanICS, ineffibilis ICS and ineffibilis Gb roms. I was previously on CleanICS. Then decided i wanted to go back to a Gb ROM. So what I did was flash a GB boot.img then I tried to flash ineffibilis Gb, but then the installation gets aborted in recovey. I was able to restore my stock rooted GB ROM though.
I tried to flash your kernel for "stock Gb Rezound, before OTA", but I'm also getting a Mainver failure.
What do I need to do to Be able to flash ineffibilis GB ROM? I'm currently on Gb stock no OTA. Shouldn't I be able to flash other Gb roms without worrying about mainver?
Will the "curently running ICS before OTA" also install the new firmware?
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Will the "curently running ICS before OTA" also install the new firmware?
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No, just the kernel
Finally got my head around this a couple of days ago, and thought someone should do exactly this. This is what makes you, you. Thank you Nile for being the kind of developer every phone needs.
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NilsP said:
Currently running a Gingerbread ROM after installing the OTA:
Main Version = 2.01.605.11
Currently running a ICS ROM after installing the OTA:
Main Version = 2.01.605.11
NOTE: You must be HTC UnLocked
If you are running the stock OTA stick with that kernel
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In my case, I was on stock with OTA 2.01.605.11, and am installing Senseless 2.1 ICS. By your terminology, would I go with "running an ICS ROM after installing OTA", or stick to the stock kernel per the final bold statement?
spitzaf said:
In my case, I was on stock with OTA 2.01.605.11, and am installing Senseless 2.1 ICS. By your terminology, would I go with "running an ICS ROM after installing OTA", or stick to the stock kernel per the final bold statement?
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If your going to the ICS ROM you need to flash the ICS kernel.
The last statement simply means if you are running the OTA don't bother with any other kernels.
Gotcha. Thanks Nils
So to go from your ICS back to a stock rooted nandroid restore what would be needed? The main version thing is confusing.
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silverxbv2 said:
So to go from your ICS back to a stock rooted nandroid restore what would be needed? The main version thing is confusing.
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To go back to stock from my ICS ROM as long as you have not installed the OTA just requires running the stock RUU. You should not have to relock or anything since you still have the stock radio and hboot.
Now if you installed the OTA that is another story and there is a whole thread about that.
Part of my reason for starting this thread was to help others with main version problems.
The second reason was to help myself and other developers determine when we could safely cut our ROM's over to the OTA main version even if we did not use the new OTA kernel.
The downloads for these kernels, even after just 1 day, clearly indicates that most people have either accepted the OTA or installed the OTA ROM on their own. In other words, most of the downloads are for the versions that are based on the OTA main version to be installed on custom ROM's that use the old main version kernels.
I will watch the downloads for a few more days then decide what to do with my ROMs
NilsP said:
To go back to stock from my ICS ROM as long as you have not installed the OTA just requires running the stock RUU. You should not have to relock or anything since you still have the stock radio and hboot.
Now if you installed the OTA that is another story and there is a whole thread about that.
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No. I didn't run the ota. Just need to get back to the stock gb Rom I made a backup of right after unlocking and rooting for a minute.
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silverxbv2 said:
No. I didn't run the ota. Just need to get back to the stock gb Rom I made a backup of right after unlocking and rooting for a minute.
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Do the nand restore and flash the GB kernel with old main version.
Nils,
Just wanted to clarify one thing. I relocked, flashed original ruu, accepted ota, unlocked again and rooted. still using this rom which is essentially bone stock rooted. If I flash CR based off latest ota and later decided to restore nandroid of the bone stock, do I flash this kernel as well?
Currently running a Gingerbread ROM after installing the OTA:
Main Version = 2.01.605.11
my apologies for the question but I wondered in the case you are restoring a nandroid, do you need to also flash the kernel before restoring the nandroid. Hope I made myself clear. lol.
Im downgrading to 2.11.605.5 , I currently have 2.11.605.9. After doing this and using revolutionary I was not sure if I will still be on 2.11.605.5 after I root? If so, will I have to flash a rom that has 2.11.605.9 built in it? And if I stay stock rooted will I keep getting messages about an update from Verizon? I really want to stay stock rooted, but can flash a custom rom if there is one that is a stock / debloated type of Sense rom.
Anyone? Thanks.
You will get the update nag unless you install a rooted OTA update version of the stock ROM. I know those are available, quick search yields a couple versions, some fully stock, some with tweaking to remove bloat.
Take a look at what's available, choose and flash one after backing up your current setup.
The radios are a different story. Their performance varies by geography and device. Again, search and read up on them and flash to see what works for you.
Ymmv from that of others.
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Do I really have to flash an RUU before flashing an ICS rom or is there an alternative?
if you want ics rom that has 2.01.605.11 than no u don't no need to.
if you want ics rom that has 3.11.605.22 than yes u need to ruu leaked ics.
Some of the roms offer a patch you can run instead..
For example - CleanRom
"UPDATE: Because some people are hesitant to flash the leaked RUU I have posted a patch for those with the old firmware HERE NO SUPPORT IS GIVEN FOR THE PATCH! Support will only be given for those on the leaked firmware!"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453324
mjones73 said:
Some of the roms offer a patch you can run instead..
For example - CleanRom
"UPDATE: Because some people are hesitant to flash the leaked RUU I have posted a patch for those with the old firmware HERE NO SUPPORT IS GIVEN FOR THE PATCH! Support will only be given for those on the leaked firmware!"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453324
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+1 to this but some people are still having problems flashing the patch. I would just flash the RUU and do it the right way. Less problems and it was done right.
I've been back and forth from gb to ics. Just flash the rom let the kernel update, boot up the phone, go back to recovery and flash the patch.
Scott's newest cleanrom is for any RUU. His rom is as stable and as awesome as it gets.
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+1 to this but some people are still having problems flashing the patch. I would just flash the RUU and do it the right way. Less problems and it was done right.
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The latest CleanRom updates supports both now.. Personally I wouldn't RUU in case there's any issues with installing an official update unless you need to...
I installed it myself, this was before the patches came along...
Hey guys,
Just had a quick question. I'm not new to the rooting game and have been doing it for a while (g1 fwiw) but just had some questions since the new update came out. I'm s off so flashed the updated radios and packages from captain over in the android development forum. My question though is I don't ever remember having to flash an update like that. Ive flashed radios before but I thought the base came with the roms. Am I wrong? Is this different than usual for a reason or do I just have a bad memory. I might be wording my question weird but yeah, anyone with an idea?
I'm not sure what you mean, you flash the radio/firmware and rom and you're updated.
I guess my question is I thought all of that stuff usually comes packaged in a Rom. Except for the radio I thought the base and all that depended on what Rom you flashed and wasn't fixed.
Get_Out_and_Push said:
I guess my question is I thought all of that stuff usually comes packaged in a Rom. Except for the radio I thought the base and all that depended on what Rom you flashed and wasn't fixed.
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Radios are stored in a separate partition from the ROM. I don't think I've ever seen a ROM package include one.
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Roms are built off of different bases. That hasnt changed.
Flashing a rom will update the base (software version)
Rxpert said:
Roms are built off of different bases. That hasnt changed.
Flashing a rom will update the base (software version)
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Ok thanks that's what I was trying to ask. No sleep makes me incoherent I guess. So Captains zip with everything from the ota was mostly about the radio since New roms will include an updated base and kernel?
Get_Out_and_Push said:
Ok thanks that's what I was trying to ask. No sleep makes me incoherent I guess. So Captains zip with everything from the ota was mostly about the radio since New roms will include an updated base and kernel?
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Yes
Get_Out_and_Push said:
Ok thanks that's what I was trying to ask. No sleep makes me incoherent I guess. So Captains zip with everything from the ota was mostly about the radio since New roms will include an updated base and kernel?
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Correct, the radios and other firmware bits are on the secured partitions that require a signed ruu in order to install if you are not s-off. The base software installs on the system partition so can be installed with just an unlocked bootloader through a custom recovery like twrp. That is why so many people that are s-on and the 1.15 hboot can't take advantage of the new radios. Their only option at this time would be to take the ota. They can however load the new kernel through fastboot or flash GUI and then install a custom rom that has the updated base.
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Since there are so many questions being asked all over the place, I figured I would try to create and update this thread accordingly with links and whatnot from any information that is provided in following posts.
After rooting, and achieving S-Off, what should be flashed?
Radio
PRI
Kernel
Baseband
How?
All contained in below link in one nice update known as the firmware.
You can do this before or on top of an already installed ROM running this base such as Mean ROM 2.6
Newest OTA is 2.13.651.1
Flash newest firmware from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859789
2.13.651.1 Firmware Bits
I have done the above steps and my experience is super smooth.
Let me know if I'm missing anything and I'll add it.
newfireorange said:
Since there are so many questions being asked all over the place, I figured I would try to create and update this thread accordingly with links and whatnot from any information that is provided in following posts.
After rooting, and achieving S-Off, what should be flashed?
Newest OTA is 2.13
Flash the newest radio - Latest: 1.12.11.0809 - Improves signal performance and drop problems
I did this
Now I ask this of you:
What else should/can be flashed after achieving S-Off?
PRI?
Firmware (does that even make sense to flash firmware, only to flash a ROM right on top of it)?
After that, then you flash your ROM
Mean ROM is based on the newest firmware. So does that automatically flash the newest files to your phone?
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No it does not
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newfireorange said:
Since there are so many questions being asked all over the place, I figured I would try to create and update this thread accordingly with links and whatnot from any information that is provided in following posts.
After rooting, and achieving S-Off, what should be flashed?
Newest OTA is 2.13
Flash the newest radio - Latest: 1.12.11.0809 - Improves signal performance and drop problems
I did this
Now I ask this of you:
What else should/can be flashed after achieving S-Off?
PRI?
Firmware (does that even make sense to flash firmware, only to flash a ROM right on top of it)?
After that, then you flash your ROM
Mean ROM is based on the newest firmware. So does that automatically flash the newest files to your phone?
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Flashing Mean Rom will update your baseband only. You still need to flash the radios and pri updates yourself.
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Thank you i will flash the pri. Did the radio already. What is a pri anyway?
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