Hi there,
I just got a FreedomPop phone (HTC Evo Design 4G), and while $0/month is great, and it technically works, the phone itself is very slow an clunky (music player crashes, the RAM is actually downgraded from 768 to 512, general lag). Now, I have a perfectly decent Droid Razr M, which I would love to get working with the FreedomPop service.
Here is what I found so far:
* The FreedomPop phone has no SIM card. It's all software.
* I did a Titanium Backup, and found two packages of notice:
vDM Client (com.redbend.vdmc) - seems to be responsible for some kind of cellular data transfer.
Sprint DSA (com.sprint.dsa) - sprint network authentication.
There might be more, but I'm assuming it's these two that are responsible for authenticating me onto the network.
I did a Titanium Backup on the EVO, and restored it on the RAZR, but I get the permissions errors like the one below because the programs are not "signed":
10-29 16:06:22.029 W/PackageManager(699): Not granting permission android.permission.DEVICE_POWER to package com.redbend.vdmc (protectionLevel=2 flags=0x8be45)
It seems like this should be possible to figure out. I would very much appreciate any help.
Freedompop's Evo Design 4g does have a sim port and is a world phone. This is probably wrong forum to discuss, but since XDA has elected not to make one for said device, I'll continue. Main thing is: your Droid... is Verizon and Freedompop is a Sprint mvno. If I were to try such, I'd scout old phone forums [recommend droid eris]. Some got those kind of working across the cdma band differences, and you'd need to do similarly. My experience w/ moto manufactured smartphones is limited; so, no guide forthcoming from me. Hope that helps somewhat though.
Regards,
Rob
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, Moto is a Verizon while Evo Design is Sprint. The main thing, however, is that there is no sim card and the sprint access is all based on software. So theoretically, if I migrate the software, it could work. The backup-evo->restore-razr doesn't seem to work because of the app certificate issues. I think that's step one. To figure out how to install the software, so it actually works. Then figure out how to allow access to the Sprint network, since both phones are world phones.
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Mr. Pickles said:
Thanks for the reply. Yes, Moto is a Verizon while Evo Design is Sprint. The main thing, however, is that there is no sim card and the sprint access is all based on software. So theoretically, if I migrate the software, it could work. The backup-evo->restore-razr doesn't seem to work because of the app certificate issues. I think that's step one. To figure out how to install the software, so it actually works. Then figure out how to allow access to the Sprint network, since both phones are world phones.
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I know with HTC phones.. you'd need a copy of QPST, drop down into your root directory and make a "opensesame" folder. This unlocks the NV items. Inside those NV items are keys you'd need to switch out [to work on other bands]. That would have to be done at a minimum [and I don't know where motorola's storage of these lie]. Using a sacrifice phone and changing meid has been suggested by some in past, but changing the meid often changes your ESN [it recalculates]. Technically changing your ESN is a grey area. Some say its illegal; I say its illegal if your intent is to defraud. I am not a lawyer though nor do I play one on TV [nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night]; so, any and all waivers apply . Defraud is a wide grey area iow. To me, that's to discourage those that cloned phones, pirated data and calls, invaded privacy, etc and if you are experimenting on your own sacrificial phone [not to defraud anyone], I don't consider it illegal, but keep it to yourself all the same [if you have to go that route]. That's about all the help I can be on the issue. I've been able to get Sprint phones working on Sprint mvno, but never attempted the long vault [Sprint to Verizon or vice versa].
Regards,
Rob
I think this is a bit daunting of a task than what I first imagined. Thanks for the info, Rob.
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How possible is[nt] this?
Anyone got a clue? I would love t move, BUT I don't have $350 for a new mogul [vx6800]
I gather this isn't legally possible without having Sprint unlock your phone (which they said they'll start doing, AFTER contracts run out), and then having Verizon permit your unlocked phone onto their network.
There are probably ways of doing it yourself, but they're not legal. And they require more intimate knowledge of the phone networks than I possess.
Yes and no
Greetings,
It would work as the devices are pretty much the same, major diff is the MSL. Sprint uses an algorithm to compute this code based on ESN, where Verizon just uses 000000 on all units. This could be changed easily and you could even have a ROM cooked up that would load the VZW applications loaded up. Where you run into a problem is that both carriers look at the ESN range that your unit falls in and will deny you just simply based on that alone. It is a rule of the carrier as opposed it not working. Maybe they will open the rules one day, as they actually do use the same CDMA network, as a consultant I work on Sprint, VZW, Alltel, and many others systems.
The way I see it, if sprint is allowing the phones to go global, then it should work. I remember in the days when i was in love with the e815 for vzw. The e816 came out, which is a black version, but it was only for amped mobile. I was able to swap out the rom and then use the e816 on verizons network. I'm not sure if its the same for sprint, but maybe since they're all cdma phones anyway.
I'm tempted to try a VZW ROM on my phone and see what happens... I got as friend with VZW I could call in and try to activate under her account... Maybe I'll try it.
Okay
I bought the htc touch pro sprint version off a good deal. I used the elite team unlocker and I tossed the vzw leaked rom on the touch pro. Installation of the leaked rom went fairly well, and I thought I was ready to get this device connected via vzw network. I called vzw 3 times, went to 3 different stores, all have the same answer.
They cannot add the esn to their database. So my question is - what's the workaround regarding that policy? Do I have a very expensive alarm on my hands or is there something that can be done?
btw I haven't unlocked the msl code and I put the sprint rom (stock rom) back on the device to start fresh. Bear in mind I tried Getspc and I found that didn't work too well. I also tried QPST on vista and windows xp and the same popup on both machines came up (installing new drivers, please select driver location) to try and change the msl.
Any other thoughts or a good direction of where to go? I tried going to mobile files and I got an okay understanding of it, but an issue is well...I'm not sure of what to do.
I know there was a thread in the diamond forum to change the esn and I think that would be a good idea, what are your thoughts on it? Is it a good idea? Did I just open up pandora's box?
Try this
Go to forum.ppcgeeks.com
I believe I read something similar to this on that site. Don't know about the solution, but they are more advanced in dealing with the CDMA Pro, as they appear to have had it longer.
Sorry I couldnt help more. So Much for the Open Network Verizon promised.
Carriers sometimes are just a BIG Joke.
yeah I was reading two topics started by one guy...seems he went through the same drama that i went through
so I'm thinking from the discussion the only way would be to send the phone to verizon and I don't want to do that honestly
Dont
Don't Do it, and Verizon would rather you bu their own touch Pro when it gets released
Unless you can edit/spoof a Verizon ESN I don't think it's possible currently. If you do manage to find a way to do that, you need to be careful as it's probably illegal (as the ESN could belong to someone else -- and I'm sure there's laws in place to "protect you") -- Guessing at least, IANAL
Yes, technically it is illegal to change the ESN of a phone, however, I know that there was a way to change it (at least for the Mogul).
its been done
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44663
trying it now and so far my results are exactly as advertised huzzah!
So what's the verdict? Success or Fail?
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So what's the verdict? Success or Fail?
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its my understanding that at this time vzn has suspended adding ESN's to there DMD. check the PPCgeeks post above your post and check to make sure though.
Yeah, I see they have some Sprint Touch Pro's on e-bay and I was thinking about getting one for my verizon account because they are cheaper and also I heard they have more processor memory or something. So does that no longer work, or can someone point me to a thread on this?
if you go to PPC geeks you can fint the post in the TP section.
I have a sprint touch pro on vzw network working perfectly using the above method a wile back, however 2 days ago i lost internet, and decided to activate an old phone and reactivate the touch pro to reset the internet settings on verizons network, when reactivating the sprint touch pro i was told the esn was invalad du to the fact that it was not 911 compadable,.. wich we allknow it is, but i believe verizon has just set their network to generate that error when a sprint esn is trying to be added, as of right now there is a truble ticken in with verizons it department but, im not very hopefull, i think my next step would be to clone an esn of a verizon phone i am not using, can anyone help me with that?
if it was anything close to what I had to do to get it on alltel, if you can get them to add the esn you may have to manually program it then add a prl then try *228 it....you do best to call vzw CS and tell them its theirs if they ask...
Ill be moving to japan by years end and was wondering what network could I use to work with the Atrix? And if anyone has any experiance living in japan, how does billing work?
From everything I've heard Japan has domestic market phones that make the Atrix look like old news. You might be better off getting a phone/plan locally when you get there.
...I beg to differ on that one.
Here in Japan, there are some good Android phones, but they're almost always locked down. For example my SH005. great phone except the battery won't last a whole day.
I picked up an Atrix I plan on unlocking and using that over here.
anything that has the 2100 band (pretty much all 3G phones in the US) will work on Softbank. if you're going there permanently, then if your phone is unlocked you can probably just drop the SIM in. if you're going temporarily then you will probably need to grab a prepaid SIM but it should still work in the phone. you pay for all minutes used, incoming calls are free, and softbank has a good deal on unlimited mail for prepaid (300 yen per month) plans.
shadowfalx had issues with softbank in JP.. he tried 2 Atrix handsets and couldn't get either of them to work with data..
It had to be his APN settings. I've used dozens of non-softbank phones over here, starting with my GSM WinMo Treo 750, and as long as the APN settings were correct, it worked on data fine. There's one other person with an Atrix I know here in Tokyo; He's a Google employee here. So I know it'll work.
Kueller said:
From everything I've heard Japan has domestic market phones that make the Atrix look like old news. You might be better off getting a phone/plan locally when you get there.
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Like what?
Japan is behind the times these days, still loving flip phones, blackberries and just joining the iphone love.
Symbian is alive and well in Japan. That should tell you everything.
starrwulfe said:
It had to be his APN settings. I've used dozens of non-softbank phones over here, starting with my GSM WinMo Treo 750, and as long as the APN settings were correct, it worked on data fine. There's one other person with an Atrix I know here in Tokyo; He's a Google employee here. So I know it'll work.
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Have you ever heard of people getting extremely high charges for data? I read about that on another forum (gaijinpot, search for "softbank bill" on the title, I can't link to it). They say softbank will usually not allow you to use a cell phone they didn't sell on their data network if you ask them directly. The thread is 3 or so moths old, I don't think too much has changed since then.
Again, it's all in the plan/APN settings you start off with beforehand, along with checking My.softbank.ne.jp to see if you're getting ridiculous charges...
Some people go into the store, get a prepaid phone, then just swap the SIMs. No prepaid phone here comes with data!
Others are moving from a featurephone to a smartphone. Those have data, but are tied to a specific APN. When pulling down more data than allowed from that APN, they charge exorbitant fees. Hence plan changing is a good thing.
Finally, some people go from iPhone to another Android. iPhones here have totally different APNs they attach to.
It's all in the name controlling the plans for their customers, that's all. Connect to the one you're paying for, then you shouldn't have any problem.
Again, I used an AT&T treo 750, HTC Tilt, HTC Tilt 2, from T-mobile, and an out-the-box unlocked iPhone 3GS from Singapore with no issues. Of course you NEVER tell them that you're using a different phone from the one that's on their system. But as long as you're connected properly, they generally don't care.
That being said, theres another option called B:mobile here. They're an MVNO and use DoCoMo's network. They just sell you a prepaid SIM card. I may try them out, just to see what kind of service is there and if it could save me some ¥. This guy is test one right now actually:
http://softbanksucks.blogspot.com/
Wow, that was really informative starrwulfe. I was looking for this kind of info because I just got an Atrix off of ebay and I plan to use it with a Dell Streak's SIM which I got from softbank on the 2-year contract. You're saying that if I backup my APN settings from the Streak I should have no problems on the Atrix, correct?
For the record, I pay about 9,000 yen per month. That includes ~6,000 for the unlimited data plan, ~1800 for the phone, and all the crap you have to sign in when you make the contract.
OP, If you are going to stay in Japan long enough and you intend to use a lot of data on the Atrix you may want to consider getting a basic android smartphone from softbank on an unlimited data plan and swapping SIMs.
Exactly.
I have a Sharp Galapagos SH005 here now, but like you, I'm switching to an Atrix too (in fact it should be here before Saturday) and that's exactly what I plan to do.
Easy way to tell what APN you should connect to is to check the color of the SIM cards. Black ones are iPhone only cards, gray ones with green bands specifically say "SMARTPHONE" on them-- they go into the Android phones here. Feature phones have a regular gray card.
You can find the APN info and password easily by googling a little... But if you can back up your APN info, can you share it with me? mine is locked (current phone can't be rooted)
Ok, now I'm having trouble here with getting my Atrix set up on the Softbank network.
Phone calls and SMS work, but data doesn't.
Seems they have some unpublished APNs now with the new android phones. My Galapagos plugs into some other APN than what the normal silver cards did. Unfortunately I can't see what my APN is now on my current phone since they've locked that part out.
What I'm also afraid of is that they may have also started using things like imei checking and user agent binding as well. Great, now what can I do?
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Just so you know, I have this with sim card out of my iPhone and my atrix works on the softbank network. So it was see if only thing stopping me for connecting to softbank is apn info.
again if anybody has sharp galapogos APN information for softbank I would happily pay pal a donation
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It had to be his APN settings. I've used dozens of non-softbank phones over here, starting with my GSM WinMo Treo 750, and as long as the APN settings were correct, it worked on data fine. There's one other person with an Atrix I know here in Tokyo; He's a Google employee here. So I know it'll work.
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It was APNs....sort of. Motorola Atrix requires you to add your Username and Password to a file in '/system/etc/ppp/peers/pppd-ril.options'. With out this you can call and use wi-fi but can not use mobile data.
and for APN's this site is helpful:
http://android.modaco.com/content/a...internet-mms-apk-for-softbank-users-in-japan/
Just remember is you want tethering and aGPS add them to the list in APN Type. So it should read default,supl,mms,agps,dun,tether remember NO spaces
Starrwulf do you have root on you Galappagos phone? if so you can look at the APNs.....Let me make a guide quickly and I will update this post.
Required:
SQLite editor
Root
1) Open SQLite editor and accept the root permissions.
2) Go to Dialer storage.
3) telephony.db
4) carriers
This opens a database file with all the APNs preloaded on the phone. You should be able to look for the one that has a 'Yes' in the current field.
I assume this is the same or similar on the Galapagos (I don't have one specifically though)
Thanx _Dennis_ for being so helpful!
Unfortunately, this thing has no root-- or rather may have temporary root, but not full root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054132
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13747122
If I could gain just enough access to that file, then maybe theres a good chance it's in there.
I don't think SuperOneClick works... any suggestions?
maybe try gingerbreak? it may gain you root but you may not be able to change anything, which would be ok.
Or even better do you have adb access? if so I will find the correct .db file.
--edit: correct file is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db
or try these settings:
apn carrier="SoftBank Internet"
mcc="440"
mnc="20"
apn="andglobal.softbank.ne.jp"
user="andg001softbank"
password="pumbbghkpgyybsxa"
mmsc="http://mms/"
mmsproxy="andmms.softbank.ne.jp"
mmsport="8080"
type="default,mms"
preferred="true"
from: http://android.modaco.com/content-p...-mms-apk-for-softbank-users-in-japan/page/40/
I'm on the freenode IRC channel #moto-atrix, my name is shadowfalx do to someone already having _dennis_ registered though, if you want more real time help
You, another friend of mine here on Gtalk, and I found that MoDaCo thread all at the same time!
Those settings did the trick actually! So now I'm good to go. Now I need to figure out how to push that other mms.apk thru ADB to get my useragent changed...
BTW I'm new to the Android Mod scene. I started messing with WinMo back in the States, then moved here and had a very hacked Tilt 2 on softbank... when it gave up the ghost, I went into the iPhone jailbreak scene. Now I'm here! So I'll accept any and all advice you can give me, sensei/senpai!
You don't really need the mms app Download 'Handcent' from the market and change the UA in settings. Also I suggest getting 'market enabler' requires root but it allows you to fake a US sim card in the market and get US only apps.
I have Hancent... But I don't see anywhere to change the UA in the settings.... Am I missing something?
So I've read a bunch on this from all sorts of sites. I believe this to be possible, but need some help with the technical aspect of this.
I posted in the Thunderbolt section because it is probably closest to the Evo 3d, from a hardware standpoint, and need info on how the thunderbolt is configured.
I can get it activated that is not an issue.
A few questions:
1) How to get the phone talking to the network?
I've updated to the verizon prl, and when I *228 I get the verizon programming prompts, but It won't update programming due to not being activated.
2)Do you think the Thunderbolt radio will work with the Evo 3d?
2a) If not, would it be possible to merge the T-bolt radio code with the Evo radio code to create a hybrid?
3)Settings, would any know the ##3282# settings for the verizon network.
If you could post the non-personal info that would really help. Please exclude MEIDs, phone numbers, etc.
I understand this is difficult, I've also read the posts, "Why not just go to sprint?", I'm not interested in those responses. This is a challenge, and I'd like to complete it.
Dev's what do you know?
The sprint 4g network isn't compatible with Verizon's as sprint uses wimax and verizon uses lte so the radios would be completely different hardware.
In theory since sprint and verizon phone are both capable of useing the same cdma frequencies 1900mhz and 800mhz you should be able to get 3g working
The question becomes why would you want to use verizon if you cant take advantage of the 4g. And also why would you come here insted of just googleing your question
Search this
Activate Sprint phone on Verizon, Altell, etc... Network. - PPCGeeks and it might help
And why wouldn't you post it in Q&A where it belongs or in the EVO 3D forum? I predict a short life for this thread.....
I did post in evo 3d, and it was moved to Q+A. Apparently the dev forums are to advertise Rom, kernals, etc. for the devs. Not actual development.
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I did post in evo 3d, and it was moved to Q+A. Apparently the dev forums are to advertise Rom, kernals, etc. for the devs. Not actual development.
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No, they are to post development. What you're asking is definitely Q&A. Devs do spend time at Q&A. I see them answer questions regularly. What do you think the EVO 3D has in common with a Tbolt?
Aren't they basically the same phone, just with a second camera? Same form factor, processor, memory, etc?
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Aren't they basically the same phone, just with a second camera? Same form factor, processor, memory, etc?
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Nope. Totally different CPU. It's running a Snapdragon S3, as opposed the the Tbolt's S2. The memory is the same. More advanced GPU. Faster USB. The screen is a bit different because of the linticular 3D feature. The CDMA radio might be similar. If my understanding is right, he's gonna need to find a ROM from the Tbolt that's been ported to the EVO 3D so that the data will work since Sprint and Verizon use different device authentication for data service. I'm not even sure that's possible since the devices are so very different. If what they say is true, and the Tbolt replacement more closely matches EVO 3D specs, I think finding a ROM ported to the 3D will be easier, or possibly the tools to make it work across networks. As it stands, they just don't have a lot in common.
Well it can be done, just follow these steps:
1. Switch to Sprint
2. Load a Verizon PRL onto the Evo 3D
3. Enjoy until they kick you off in a few months for roaming too much.
Other than that, the only other possible way would be if Verizon added the ESN to their phone list, and the chances of that happening are..... well, zero.
Unfortunately, they do this so you can only get the equipment from either them, or by private seller (ebay,CL) and they can put more cash in their pockets. It may be possible to do this in about 10 years when everything is LTE, as (please correct me if i'm incorrect) the net neutrality laws do not allow carriers to limit the types of phones accepted on the network, and you can potentially switch 4GLTE sim cards between phones of different networks. Unfortunately (again), it seems that AT&T and Verizon are going to be using different frequencies for their LTE networks, so it seems that this idea won't work either. Looks like they win again.
Topher227 said:
Well it can be done, just follow these steps:
1. Switch to Sprint
2. Load a Verizon PRL onto the Evo 3D
3. Enjoy until they kick you off in a few months for roaming too much.
Other than that, the only other possible way would be if Verizon added the ESN to their phone list, and the chances of that happening are..... well, zero.
Unfortunately, they do this so you can only get the equipment from either them, or by private seller (ebay,CL) and they can put more cash in their pockets. It may be possible to do this in about 10 years when everything is LTE, as (please correct me if i'm incorrect) the net neutrality laws do not allow carriers to limit the types of phones accepted on the network, and you can potentially switch 4GLTE sim cards between phones of different networks. Unfortunately (again), it seems that AT&T and Verizon are going to be using different frequencies for their LTE networks, so it seems that this idea won't work either. Looks like they win again.
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GSM SIM cards aren't frequency specific. So long as the handset functions on those bands it should work. In Europe, Mecha of GSM, carriers cannot sell contract-subsidized phones so the SIM must work regardless of the band the carrier uses. LTE is a subset of GSM, and if the same rules apply, there shouldn't be an issue.
Yes it can be done, but the wimax would be completely worthless and it would require a ESN/MEID clone/donor device which is technically illegal other than a few remote clauses that are often read WAAAAY to loosely. In short, just wait for the device on verizon or switch. IF you really want to do it, there are folks that can step you through it if you google enough.
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Nope. Totally different CPU. It's running a Snapdragon S3, as opposed the the Tbolt's S2. The memory is the same. More advanced GPU. Faster USB. The screen is a bit different because of the linticular 3D feature. The CDMA radio might be similar. If my understanding is right, he's gonna need to find a ROM from the Tbolt that's been ported to the EVO 3D so that the data will work since Sprint and Verizon use different device authentication for data service. I'm not even sure that's possible since the devices are so very different. If what they say is true, and the Tbolt replacement more closely matches EVO 3D specs, I think finding a ROM ported to the 3D will be easier, or possibly the tools to make it work across networks. As it stands, they just don't have a lot in common.
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I'm really looking for a solution to the connectivity issue. I'm not worried about WiMax, just the 3g capabilities. I know I can get it added to the verizon db, and I already have Verizon service. I'm looking for real solutions, not "switch to Sprint".
Loonatik is on the track I'm thinking of. I know I need settings changes that I can make, but don't have the info for.
I'm NOT going to do a ESN/MEID swap, not worth the risk.
Topher227 said:
Well it can be done, just follow these steps:
1. Switch to Sprint
2. Load a Verizon PRL onto the Evo 3D
3. Enjoy until they kick you off in a few months for roaming too much.
Other than that, the only other possible way would be if Verizon added the ESN to their phone list, and the chances of that happening are..... well, zero.
Unfortunately, they do this so you can only get the equipment from either them, or by private seller (ebay,CL) and they can put more cash in their pockets. It may be possible to do this in about 10 years when everything is LTE, as (please correct me if i'm incorrect) the net neutrality laws do not allow carriers to limit the types of phones accepted on the network, and you can potentially switch 4GLTE sim cards between phones of different networks. Unfortunately (again), it seems that AT&T and Verizon are going to be using different frequencies for their LTE networks, so it seems that this idea won't work either. Looks like they win again.
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Actually, it is possible but not with a phone that uses a SIM to store all the configuration. It uses a different registration method than the phones that do not require a SIM. Besides, any phone not specifically designed for LTE won't support the 4G data anyway.
I've been trying for over two weeks to root my LG Enact (Verizon branded), with no luck. This is not the most popular phone out there, but I like my QWERTY keyboard, I can't help it. It's an 8GB phone, the stock ROM is KitKat, it's a capable little device. So I'm going to keep at it until I find a solution. But I could use some help.
Unfortunately, I've tried just about every tethered AND untethered method out there, and nothing is working. The root-by-adb scripts run into a brick wall if they boot the phone into recovery, because the phone refuses to communicate that way, the computer says "Device not recognized" once recovery starts. (And all of those drivers are as up-to-date as I can make them.) The ones that use Download Mode (such as the LG One-Click Root method I tried, from this forum) get a little further, but they never complete the process. There are several apk methods that claim to be able to root without the adb connection, like framaroot, towelroot, kingoroot, etc., but none of these works either. I think I've tried them all. (And I'm going to have to do some hefty virus-scanning on my computer, after all the shady places I've wound up, from following bogus links while looking.)
The phone's stock ROM seems to have been set up with an extra layer of security which most devices don't have, which is one problem. We all know the "Allow installation of apps from unknown sources" option in the Security menu; mine also has a choice below it to "Disallow or warn before installation of apps that may cause harm", which of course I leave UN-checked. In Developer Options, grouped with USB Debugging, there is another "option" to "Verify apps over USB -- Check apps installed via ADB/ADT for harmful behavior", which is automatically checked when Debugging is enabled, but the "option" is grayed out and cannot be changed. So it's likely that NO tethered method will ever root this phone, because anything I attempt to install that way will be flagged as "harmful behavior".
Sorry this is growing so long, but you need to know what I've already explored, which explains my next question: there MAY be a way to run a root exploit directly from the phone, if I can find a way to manually place the file (such as the zipped ioroot exploit) in a folder which recovery can access, and this is where I'm asking for help. The stock recovery has two other selectable options, besides "Apply update from ADB" (which is where some file would be sideloaded, if the phone didn't stop communicating here) -- there is also "Apply update from cache", and "Apply update from external storage". I already have the appropriate file on the SD card, but when I try that option, the phone says it "Cannot mount SD card, no CSI structures installed", or something like that... which renders the SD unusable during recovery. If I look at the "Apply from cache" selection, it gives me four choices, which are "backup/", "fota/", "lost+found/", and "recovery/". The problem here is, none of those "cache" folders are in a location I can access... they must be in a system partition which I can't even see, without root.
So if anyone has ANY thoughts on this -- either how to force the phone to leave the SD mounted during recovery, or how to move a file to an invisible partition -- would be greatly appreciated.
Have you tried kingroot not kingoroot?
Tried them both, no dice
I used kingroot on Verizon LG VS890 (fx3q) running Android 4.4.2 to successfully achieve root. Saferoot and others did not work for me.
Rooted with NewKingrootV4.50_C120_B220_xda_release_2015_09_02_105243.apk installed with ES file explorer.
Thank you!!! That method finally worked for me.
Verizon
Glad I was able to help you.
Where you able to activate your phone on a new different provider? Even after rooting I wasn't able to get the Verizon VS890 to register on Canadian provider (Wind).
Thanks
Zero Sparks said:
Glad I was able to help you.
Where you able to activate your phone on a new different provider? Even after rooting I wasn't able to get the Verizon VS890 to register on Canadian provider (Wind).
Thanks
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Rooting would have nothing to do with activating this phone on another network. The LG VS890 (Enact) does not support GSM. The SIM slot is strictly for VZW LTE. This phone was not classified as a world phone, thus not needing to be unlocked like other VZW phones, and/or was produced before they were required to have their phones unlocked, but either way, it's not working on a GSM network.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-VS890-enact - Specs only list CDMA/LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_enact_vs890-5649.php - Specs only list CDMA/LTE
Thanks for the reply, but Wind mobile is CDMA not GSM.
Both employ 1700/2100 MHz AWS spectrum
Zero Sparks said:
Glad I was able to help you.
Where you able to activate your phone on a new different provider? Even after rooting I wasn't able to get the Verizon VS890 to register on Canadian provider (Wind).
Thanks
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In the US, Verizon is mainly a CDMA network, although you can get Verizon phones that are capable of either type of network. If you have a CDMA network in Canada, the phone should work. I have mine set up with StraightTalk Wireless, which is run by WalMart (don't laugh, the service is CHEAP and very reliable). The procedure was NOT very straightforward, and their telephone support is ridiculous (very poor English, had to explain things several times, took three attempts to get it done, etc.), but perseverance paid off. Don't give up.
The thing I'm having trouble with now, is finding custom ROMs for the phone. It's running KitKat, so it's not ancient, and if I can't use anything but the stock ROM, so be it. But I'm dying to try flashing Lollipop or even Marshmallow. It has to be a very specific ROM for that phone, because of the keyboard... the wrong firmware won't function properly. And there are a lot of bogus sites out there which want you to "complete a survey" or "sign up for one of these offers", but they never give you the download, it's just an endless circle of phishing sites.
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Thanks for the reply, but Wind mobile is CDMA not GSM.
Both employ 1700/2100 MHz AWS spectrum
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I'm not even from Canada and I know that is not correct. Wind Mobile is certainly GSM. It uses the same frequenices and bands as the American T-Mobile network.
es0tericcha0s said:
I'm not even from Canada and I know that is not correct. Wind Mobile is certainly GSM. It uses the same frequenices and bands as the American T-Mobile network.
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Unfortunately, Zero, he's right. The "official" list of CDMA networks operating in Canada is small, and dwindling. Telus Mobility and Sasktel Mobility have CDMA through sometime in 2016, while Bell Mobiility plans to keep it through 2017. SogoTel is the only one which seems intent on staying CDMA, but they "roam" on Bell, so your coverage may be restricted after the 2017 cutoff. All depends on where the CDMA towers are located.
If you have WalMart up there, and you probably do (we call it "UberMart" down here), you may be able to get Straight-Talk like I have, which contracts to use both sets of towers as needed. Check their website, it should tell you if it's available in your area. Just be prepared to pull teeth to do it -- they will send you an "activation kit" for something like $4.99, which has a couple different sizes of SIM card (which the phone needs to operate correctly, just not for GSM access). Online activation may fail, and you'll have to spend a few hours talking with someone from India with very minimal training who will ask you the same questions over and over, assume it's a defective SIM card and send you a second one, all before finally getting the picture that it's NOT a GSM phone and has to be activated as CDMA. Worth the struggle, for the price. ($45/month, unlimited talk/data/text)... as long as your towers give you adequate CDMA coverage.
I appreciate everyone's input. I am an avid HTC user since the Hermes, slide out versions. Currently using a HTC M8 on Rogers, here in Canada. I stick with HTC because I've always been able to root and run custom roms, firmwares with the awesome support of this board.
I was trying to help out my little brother with his phone, despite my advice he just had to have a horizontal slide out keyboard so he ordered this phone. Big brothers job was to make it work.
We did our homework, and compared network specs, so technically this phone should work on Wind network (CDMA to CDMA same bands) but I didn't bother calling in for technical support. Perhaps if I had called in they may have pressed the correct buttons to activate the phone. The phone did accept the Wind SIM but never activated/registered.
He sent the phone back for refund so I can't play around with it anymore. Again, many thanks for everyone's help, input. Right or wrong, all appreciated. ZS