Anyone out there rocking the XZU model: C6806 on AT&T? If you are, does yours shows that your getting LTE? I have the C6833, cause I thought this got LTE, but all I seem to get is H+
So, if your getting LTE, please let me know. Thank you for your time.
Yep, I'm on ATT with a C6806 and getting LTE. Had to switch to the ATT APN when I flashed CM, but yes, definitely getting LTE. And the 6833 doesn't get LTE for ATT, doesn't have the right band IIRC.
Yep LTE works great on the C6806. Was in LA the other day getting 30+mb down and 20+ up.
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There are some locations in which the 6833 will get LTE but it's so not likely that it's not advertised as being compatible for AT&T. Even so, there were reports that some folks needed to have a recognized IMEI associated with their line of service to get LTE despite model and APN.
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Hi Phaze1585,
When I had my Z Ultra LTE (C6806), I was getting LTE on AT&T. However, there are two things you need in order for this to work:
1. Band 17 support which the C6833 does not have. However, AT&T may support band 4 (which the C6833 does support) sometime in the future but don't know when. If you look on Wikipedia and search LTE bands, it says AT&T supports bands 4 and 17 but AT&T currently implements band 17 predominately. There are reports on this forum that the C6833 should work on T-Mobile's LTE since they are using band 4.
2. The SIM card needs to be activated or associated with an AT&T LTE phone. If it is an LTE phone but not "approved" (basically sold) by AT&T, you will only get HSPA+. Not related to Z Ultra but in lines with the point, I purchased my dad a Xperia ZL and activated a new SIM with AT&T (previous phone was a Moto Atrix 2, HSPA+ only). When I booted the phone, it only connected with HSPA+. When I inserted my SIM which at the time was associated with a Galaxy Note 2, I was able to get LTE on the Xperia ZL. Similar stories can be seen by searching on Google.
Hope this helps.
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Hey everyone,
I just searched this topic and didn't find any definitive answers so I thought I'd ask...
Anyways is the VZW Galaxy S4 SIM unlocked out of the box? I keep reading the new VZW releases in 2012 and onwards are according to the VZW forums and website but then I found a post of someone asking VZW for an unlock. It its an official code its easier to just ask VZW as I meet all the requirements (1+ year customer). Also I read that on the S3 the APN settings are blocked on the default VZW firmware unless rooted. Is the APN settings on the S4 open (changeable) by default?
Also what's a realistic battery life you guys are getting out of this phone?
Am comparing phones and need a phone that is:
1. SIM Unlocked and APN settings changable that has VZW's US CDMA and LTE bands PLUS ALL the international bands (the 4 GSM and 4 UMTS international bands).
2. Has HSPA+21 at least.
3. Long battery life to last the day.
4. Rootable so I can get rid of VZW crap and increase the battery life.
I've also not seen any international VZW phones with HSPA+42 dual carrier like Apple's iPhone 5. I'm also debating getting a Android versus iOS phone...
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Recently took my S4 to Brazil and spent a fair bit of time talking to Verizon Global Support before the trip. One of the questions I asked was whether the phone was SIM unlocked so that I could purchase a SIM card while in Brazil and use local service down there. The VZW rep assured me the phone was indeed unlocked, but I did not use a Brazilian SIM card while on travel so I cannot confirm via personal experience.
I can confirm that it is unlocked. I put an active att sim card in, that then allowed me to add the correct apn info. I was then able to make calls and use data.
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Hey everyone,
I just searched this topic and didn't find any definitive answers so I thought I'd ask...
Anyways is the VZW Galaxy S4 SIM unlocked out of the box? I keep reading the new VZW releases in 2012 and onwards are according to the VZW forums and website but then I found a post of someone asking VZW for an unlock. It its an official code its easier to just ask VZW as I meet all the requirements (1+ year customer). Also I read that on the S3 the APN settings are blocked on the default VZW firmware unless rooted. Is the APN settings on the S4 open (changeable) by default?
Also what's a realistic battery life you guys are getting out of this phone?
Am comparing phones and need a phone that is:
1. SIM Unlocked and APN settings changable that has VZW's US CDMA and LTE bands PLUS ALL the international bands (the 4 GSM and 4 UMTS international bands).
2. Has HSPA+21 at least.
3. Long battery life to last the day.
4. Rootable so I can get rid of VZW crap and increase the battery life.
I've also not seen any international VZW phones with HSPA+42 dual carrier like Apple's iPhone 5. I'm also debating getting a Android versus iOS phone...
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The SCH-I545 has Quad band GSM/EDGE frequency's (850/900/1800/1900) and Quad band UMTS/HSPA (850/900/1900/2100) As well as AWS bands for LTE (1700/2100) so it should get LTE on T-Mobile. However, it does not have the capabilities to get LTE on AT&T since the SCH-I545 does not have the frequency's to operate on AT&T's LTE network but it will get HSPA+ on both networks. It will work on Sprint as well but it will not get LTE since its two LTE bands, (700 and 1700/2100), are not compatible. Sprint operates on the same CDMA/ Ev-Do bands as VZW so you will get 3G. I can confirm that i have used the SCH-I545 with an AT&T SIM card and i got HSPA+ speeds.
echo1030 said:
The SCH-I545 has Quad band GSM/EDGE frequency's (850/900/1800/1900) and Quad band UMTS/HSPA (850/900/1900/2100) As well as AWS bands for LTE (1700/2100) so it should get LTE on T-Mobile. However, it does not have the capabilities to get LTE on AT&T since the SCH-I545 does not have the frequency's to operate on AT&T's LTE network but it will get HSPA+ on both networks. It will work on Sprint as well but it will not get LTE since its two LTE bands, (700 and 1700/2100), are not compatible. Sprint operates on the same CDMA/ Ev-Do bands as VZW so you will get 3G. I can confirm that i have used the SCH-I545 with an AT&T SIM card and i got HSPA+ speeds.
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The AWS is there but not activated yet. for now you will only get EDGE on t-mobile unless in a refarmed are you will pickup HSPA. you will however pickup all AWS tis summer when verizon activates that band on our phone.
SOURCE: I'm on the 30$ a month prepaid with t-mobile. edge sucks but it works.
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Silentgray said:
I can confirm that it is unlocked. I put an active att sim card in, that then allowed me to add the correct apn info. I was then able to make calls and use data.
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Hi,
I have had the same outcome, voice and data work, BUT data is only HPSA+ at best. Do you get 4G LTE or found a way to get it?
Thanks!
ddckylec said:
Hi,
I have had the same outcome, voice and data work, BUT data is only HPSA+ at best. Do you get 4G LTE or found a way to get it?
Thanks!
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No, but that is because i am not in an area where ATT has LTE turned on. South Dakota is still on the waiting list. Verizon uses different frequencies for LTE then ATT does.
Verizon has never locked their phones, even the CDMA ones. If you put a non Verizon SIM in you can change the APN settings
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Engadget "When we reviewed the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, it was with the C6802, a HSPA+ model devoid of LTE bands. However, it seems that a speedy 4G version of the handset will arrive stateside soon, if this recent FCC listing is any indication. The document shows what is clearly the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, but with AT&T-compatible HSPA+ and LTE on board. This means it's likely the C6806, the handset's North American cousin, all set up to take advantage of Ma Bell's super-fast network. It doesn't look like there's too much else differentiating it from the international model however, so we'd take a gander at the review one more time to decide if it belongs on our wish list."
It would be very unfortunate with a branded Ultra since it would mean a crippled device with a crippled radio.
The C6806 standard edition offers both AT&T, T-Mobile and European bands (some slight differences there though, the 6806 has the 700 and the 6833 the 800 band).
So an unlocked C6806 is great but if Sony let a carrier fiddle with it, I guess that a couple of LTE bands will be removed (see what T-Mobile did with the Xperia Z C6606).
The best solution would be that Sony sells the Ultra unlocked through Sony Store - the C6806 that is. AT&T et al branding, bloatware and locked bootloader would destroy a magnificent device.
coming from a LTE ATT device to this, i can tell you, I DO NOT EVEN MISS LTE. for music,youtube,web,email,fb,cloud storage i do not see any difference
I was originally on the galaxy S3 with LTE, and switched over to a note 2 unlocked non LTE and sure, my speedtest scores aren't as high, and my downloads aren't as fast, but unless you're visiting some super graphic heavy site, it's not a huge diff. Plus LTE drains battery faster I believe. On a battery draining device such as the Ultra, you definitely won't want LTE constantly draining the battery. Especially if you're not on unlimited data.
I wish the C6806 was sold unlocked, but that's probably the Tmo version - which means they'll lock out a certain LTE band (700)
Funk2641 said:
I wish the C6806 was sold unlocked, but that's probably the Tmo version - which means they'll lock out a certain LTE band (700)
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You know, Negri Electronics has the C6806 up for pre-order.
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You know, Negri Electronics has the C6806 up for pre-order.
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For what it's worth, Negri also had the Xperia Z NAM edition (6606) up for pre-order, and that is nowhere to be found except on T-Mobile.
I hope I'm wrong, but with Sony signing an agreement w/ TMo, I don't expect LTE devices to be sold unlocked by them in the US anytime soon.
The positive side is that if the C6806 is destroyed by a carrier, the C6833 will work in the US since it has the T-Mobile bands and can use AT&T albeit without the 700 band.
So an option in a worst case scenario is to get the C6833 imported for those that demand LTE.
Unlike the Xperia Z, the C6806 and C6833 are pentaband like the C6802 and offers LTE in addition. The C6833 should therefore be an adequate option for US customers if the C6806 is messed up.
I am still hoping that Sony will sell the C6806 unlocked in the Sony Store but the C6833 is a perfectly adequate option.
Personally, the lack of VoLTE made me skip the LTE versions in favor of the C6802. Streaming videos etc isn't really an option on US capped plans and the HSPA+ speeds I got on the 6802 is very adequate for browsing, navigation, picture uploads etc.
I dunno, with the cost of C6833, I'd like the ability to use LTE with ATT.
It's kind of a no-win situation, since the C6833 will be available unlocked but without the 700 band, and the C6806 will be available but gimped.
bah
Funk2641 said:
I dunno, with the cost of C6833, I'd like the ability to use LTE with ATT.
It's kind of a no-win situation, since the C6833 will be available unlocked but without the 700 band, and the C6806 will be available but gimped.
bah
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Sony sold the Xperia ZL LTE unlocked on their website, they might do the same for this phone as well, at least i hope that's going to be the case.
Funk2641 said:
I dunno, with the cost of C6833, I'd like the ability to use LTE with ATT.
It's kind of a no-win situation, since the C6833 will be available unlocked but without the 700 band, and the C6806 will be available but gimped.
bah
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How do you know that? I wasn't under the impression that any US carriers were likely to pick this device up.
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How do you know that? I wasn't under the impression that any US carriers were likely to pick this device up.
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It's rumored that Tmo might pick it up, since they have a exclusivity deal with Sony. Just speculation.
so currently the device will work fine on both ATT & Tmobile with HSPA+ right?
just no LTE
Z C6806 with LTE being sold for $630.00
http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/Son...-PURPLE.HTML?gclid=CPKFspmmkLkCFSVgMgodMW0AAQ
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cenkaetaya said:
so currently the device will work fine on both ATT & Tmobile with HSPA+ right?
just no LTE
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Correct - I have a Lumia 1020 and the Ultra Z C6802 on ATT. Here's some speedtests for you:
Ultra Z in HSPA (not even HSPA+) is getting 6Mb down, 2 Mb up
1020 in LTE gets 15Mb down, 11 Mb up
Despite the desparity, I don't notice that much difference in surfing. - not to mention the Z feels the fastest of any device used since the original Moto Xoom overclocked to 2GHz
Hope this helps!
I ran a SpeedTest yesterday and got a download of 8.3 Mbit/s on the AT&T network with HSPA+ and Straight Talk. A few minutes before, I ran another SpeedTest on the new Motorola Droid Razr Ultra and got... 3.5 Mbit/s - that's on Verizon 4G LTE.
So I am certainly very happy with the speeds I got on the Ultra in the center of Manhattan (the tests has been made near Grand Central).
randy_c said:
Z C6806 with LTE being sold for $630.00
http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/Son...-PURPLE.HTML?gclid=CPKFspmmkLkCFSVgMgodMW0AAQ
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Great deal for sure. Anybody ever done any business with them? If not I'd probably be more comfortable buying from Negri.
E90 Commie said:
The positive side is that if the C6806 is destroyed by a carrier, the C6833 will work in the US since it has the T-Mobile bands and can use AT&T albeit without the 700 band.
So an option in a worst case scenario is to get the C6833 imported for those that demand LTE.
Unlike the Xperia Z, the C6806 and C6833 are pentaband like the C6802 and offers LTE in addition. The C6833 should therefore be an adequate option for US customers if the C6806 is messed up.
I am still hoping that Sony will sell the C6806 unlocked in the Sony Store but the C6833 is a perfectly adequate option.
Personally, the lack of VoLTE made me skip the LTE versions in favor of the C6802. Streaming videos etc isn't really an option on US capped plans and the HSPA+ speeds I got on the 6802 is very adequate for browsing, navigation, picture uploads etc.
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That's interesting... Looks like the C6833 is MUCH more compatible with North American frequencies than the C6603 was.
C6603 (Euro LTE Xperia Z) lacked UMTS1700 and UMTS1900 support, which meant no 3G at all on T-Mo and 3G only where AT&T had UMTS850 service.
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That's interesting... Looks like the C6833 is MUCH more compatible with North American frequencies than the C6603 was.
C6603 (Euro LTE Xperia Z) lacked UMTS1700 and UMTS1900 support, which meant no 3G at all on T-Mo and 3G only where AT&T had UMTS850 service.
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Sony took the decision to use a top notch LTE radio in order to overcome the old limitations that plagued LTE devices until now. The only thing I don't like is the lack of VoLTE and it is one of the reasons why I went with the C6802 instead of following the original C6833 plan.
The only band missing on the C6833 is the 700 one, otherwise it should work nicely in the US meaning that it is a great option if it would end badly for the C6806 (i.e. carrier branding, removed bands and locked bootloader).
I know the Z Ultra GPE supports some of the LTE bands that Verizon uses (bands 4 and 2). Would I be able to use this as an LTE only device on Verizon's network. If so, would it be as simple as swapping my Verizon sim card in, or would I have to do some more in depth work arounds? I've done some reading and can't find a concrete answer either way. Thanks in advance for your time!
Well since i got no replies I decided to try it. I got the phone and it seems to recognize the sim card, but doesn't find any service. I downloaded an app on my working Verizon phone that tells me what frequency LTE I'm connected to and it says 7xx mhz which of the three bands that Verizon uses is the one that the Z Ultra doesn't support. It seems that's the frequency used in my area, so I can't say that it wouldn't work on the other frequencies, but it doesn't work in my area.
Does anyone know if the Verizon Moto Z will work with a GSM sim?
Why would you buy it from Verizon when they will have the GSM unlocked version in a couple of months.
I just picked up the Moto Z from Verizon, and while they are factory unlocked, the phone has message that the sim is not a Verizon sim. And I'm not getting LTE, just H+, even though the at&t LTE bands are supported.
Mrswift91 said:
I just picked up the Moto Z from Verizon, and while they are factory unlocked, the phone has message that the sim is not a Verizon sim. And I'm not getting LTE, just H+, even though the at&t LTE bands are supported.
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did you change the apns for lte?
efrommel said:
did you change the apns for lte?
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Yes I did. Still on H+
I think what is interesting is when you goto motorola.com and build one in MotoMaker no where does it say it is for Verzion (or unlocked for that matter). Little misleading to non-Verizon consumers.
I have full LTE service on my Verizon Moto Z and Moto Z Force on AT&T in California. The phone actually functions better when I delete the APN completely and reboot the phone rather than typing in the actual NXTGENPHONE APN. You may want to try that.
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I have full LTE service on my Verizon Moto Z and Moto Z Force on AT&T in California. The phone actually functions better when I delete the APN completely and reboot the phone rather than typing in the actual NXTGENPHONE APN. You may want to try that.
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Yeah, I did that, no go.
Must be different markets using different LTE bands.
i got the z force from moto maker. it works perfectly on cricket which is the same as at&t. the phone picks up lte everywhere i go in Houston
Has anyone been able to confirm if this phone will have VoLTE with t mobile on bands 12 and/or bands 71? Also does it have WiFi Calling support on tmo? I'm beginning to think that Sony is going to force me to switch to Verizon soon with their last couple of certifications.
I am wondering the same. I have T-mobile and am considering upgrading to the Xperia 1, but if you can't get 4g lte data speeds, then it would be a no go.
I currently have the LG V30, and downloaded the LTE Discovery app. It says I mainly am connected through bands 2, 4, and once or twice I saw 12 pop up. And I currently have 4g lte speeds. In the specs for the Xperia 1, it does list it has those bands, so the 1 should be ok to upgrade to, no? Anyone else have the Xperia 1 and have T-Mobile? How are the data speeds?
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Has anyone been able to confirm if this phone will have VoLTE with t mobile on bands 12 and/or bands 71? Also does it have WiFi Calling support on tmo? I'm beginning to think that Sony is going to force me to switch to Verizon soon with their last couple of certifications.
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I can confirm you that there is no wifi calling with xperia 1 on Verizon. I used xperia 1 on Verizon for 2 weeks and there just wasn't any option in the phone for wifi calling. My model was US unlocked J8170
mcjoz88 said:
I am wondering the same. I have T-mobile and am considering upgrading to the Xperia 1, but if you can't get 4g lte data speeds, then it would be a no go.
I currently have the LG V30, and downloaded the LTE Discovery app. It says I mainly am connected through bands 2, 4, and once or twice I saw 12 pop up. And I currently have 4g lte speeds. In the specs for the Xperia 1, it does list it has those bands, so the 1 should be ok to upgrade to, no? Anyone else have the Xperia 1 and have T-Mobile? How are the data speeds?
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Data speeds are fine for me. 50mbps+ all throughout Philadelphia.