Does anyone know if the Verizon Moto Z will work with a GSM sim?
Why would you buy it from Verizon when they will have the GSM unlocked version in a couple of months.
I just picked up the Moto Z from Verizon, and while they are factory unlocked, the phone has message that the sim is not a Verizon sim. And I'm not getting LTE, just H+, even though the at&t LTE bands are supported.
Mrswift91 said:
I just picked up the Moto Z from Verizon, and while they are factory unlocked, the phone has message that the sim is not a Verizon sim. And I'm not getting LTE, just H+, even though the at&t LTE bands are supported.
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did you change the apns for lte?
efrommel said:
did you change the apns for lte?
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Yes I did. Still on H+
I think what is interesting is when you goto motorola.com and build one in MotoMaker no where does it say it is for Verzion (or unlocked for that matter). Little misleading to non-Verizon consumers.
I have full LTE service on my Verizon Moto Z and Moto Z Force on AT&T in California. The phone actually functions better when I delete the APN completely and reboot the phone rather than typing in the actual NXTGENPHONE APN. You may want to try that.
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I have full LTE service on my Verizon Moto Z and Moto Z Force on AT&T in California. The phone actually functions better when I delete the APN completely and reboot the phone rather than typing in the actual NXTGENPHONE APN. You may want to try that.
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Yeah, I did that, no go.
Must be different markets using different LTE bands.
i got the z force from moto maker. it works perfectly on cricket which is the same as at&t. the phone picks up lte everywhere i go in Houston
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Anyone out there rocking the XZU model: C6806 on AT&T? If you are, does yours shows that your getting LTE? I have the C6833, cause I thought this got LTE, but all I seem to get is H+
So, if your getting LTE, please let me know. Thank you for your time.
Yep, I'm on ATT with a C6806 and getting LTE. Had to switch to the ATT APN when I flashed CM, but yes, definitely getting LTE. And the 6833 doesn't get LTE for ATT, doesn't have the right band IIRC.
Yep LTE works great on the C6806. Was in LA the other day getting 30+mb down and 20+ up.
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There are some locations in which the 6833 will get LTE but it's so not likely that it's not advertised as being compatible for AT&T. Even so, there were reports that some folks needed to have a recognized IMEI associated with their line of service to get LTE despite model and APN.
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Hi Phaze1585,
When I had my Z Ultra LTE (C6806), I was getting LTE on AT&T. However, there are two things you need in order for this to work:
1. Band 17 support which the C6833 does not have. However, AT&T may support band 4 (which the C6833 does support) sometime in the future but don't know when. If you look on Wikipedia and search LTE bands, it says AT&T supports bands 4 and 17 but AT&T currently implements band 17 predominately. There are reports on this forum that the C6833 should work on T-Mobile's LTE since they are using band 4.
2. The SIM card needs to be activated or associated with an AT&T LTE phone. If it is an LTE phone but not "approved" (basically sold) by AT&T, you will only get HSPA+. Not related to Z Ultra but in lines with the point, I purchased my dad a Xperia ZL and activated a new SIM with AT&T (previous phone was a Moto Atrix 2, HSPA+ only). When I booted the phone, it only connected with HSPA+. When I inserted my SIM which at the time was associated with a Galaxy Note 2, I was able to get LTE on the Xperia ZL. Similar stories can be seen by searching on Google.
Hope this helps.
Ok, I'm buying a G3 thats for Verizon but for my T-Mobile service. I want to flash roms etc and I'm coming from a unlocked T-Mobile Note 2. Anything I should know before I buy it? Is it fine with T-Mobile?
T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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I thought it was SIM unlocked and worked
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T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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Don't give false information if you have no idea what you're talking about? If this information were true, how am I using a Verizon G3 on ATT with LTE?
The Verizon G3 is unlocked so it will work on either T-Mobile and ATT. It picks up LTE and HSPA+ on both networks. But LTE depends on what frequency is used in your area.
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Don't give false information if you have no idea what you're talking about? If this information were true, how am I using a Verizon G3 on ATT with LTE?
The Verizon G3 is unlocked so it will work on either T-Mobile and ATT. It picks up LTE and HSPA+ on both networks. But LTE depends on what frequency is used in your area.
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Alright, you got it
LTE on band4 works fine on the vs985 on both T-Mobile and Cricket pre-paid. H+ gsm works as a fallback, too. Verizon phones have had GSM radios since at least the Droid3, if they were "World Phones", like ALL current LTE models are. Verizon used to require a code be entered before GSM would work, and even then no USA GSM networks would work. But that's all in the past.
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Ok, I'm buying a G3 thats for Verizon but for my T-Mobile service. I want to flash roms etc and I'm coming from a unlocked T-Mobile Note 2. Anything I should know before I buy it? Is it fine with T-Mobile?
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every lollipop rom will pop up with a call forwarding hass been disabled bug that happens when dropping for lte to H or H+
it will work but the bug will annoy you all the time and i never was able to find away to disable it
4.4.4 roms work amazing tho so id say stick to those for now
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T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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Actually it will work. I'm using mine on T-Mobile now. 4g lte is limited since verizon g3 only supports one band thats compatible with tmobile. But hspa+ or regular 4g works, spa or 3g works edge gprs all of those work.
Hey. Just got a Verizon LG G3 off my friend. I cracked the screen of my s4 and my girlfriend used my upgrade to get the iphone 6 so i couldn't upgrade myself. When i was using my galaxy s4 i had LTE speeds everywhere i go.
I googled the apn settings for At&t and put them into the G3 i have. It is working with HSPA+ But not LTE. I put my same sim card into my mom's at&t galaxy s5 and LTE pops back up. So LTE is clearly working in my area. But the g3 isn't picking it up, Am i doing something wrong? I've done research before i bought the phone and it people said Verizon LG G3 does support the LTE bands At&t uses. So am i doing something wrong???
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Hey. Just got a Verizon LG G3 off my friend. I cracked the screen of my s4 and my girlfriend used my upgrade to get the iphone 6 so i couldn't upgrade myself. When i was using my galaxy s4 i had LTE speeds everywhere i go.
I googled the apn settings for At&t and put them into the G3 i have. It is working with HSPA+ But not LTE. I put my same sim card into my mom's at&t galaxy s5 and LTE pops back up. So LTE is clearly working in my area. But the g3 isn't picking it up, Am i doing something wrong? I've done research before i bought the phone and it people said Verizon LG G3 does support the LTE bands At&t uses. So am i doing something wrong???
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Only supports ONE band that ATT uses. Which is band 4. Which is the backbone of ATT and Tmobiles LTE. So it should be able to connect to it. Do you live in a major city?
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Only supports ONE band that ATT uses. Which is band 4. Which is the backbone of ATT and Tmobiles LTE. So it should be able to connect to it. Do you live in a major city?
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Yea i live in Philadelphia. Like i said with my S4 i had LTE everywhere. And i put the same sim card in my mom's galaxy s5 and LTE popped right up in her phone.
Im thinking maybe my settings are wrong??
Phillyrider807 said:
Yea i live in Philadelphia. Like i said with my S4 i had LTE everywhere. And i put the same sim card in my mom's galaxy s5 and LTE popped right up in her phone.
Im thinking maybe my settings are wrong??
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Try toggling between global and gsm/umts/LTE
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Try toggling between global and gsm/umts/LTE
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Tried that too. Still getting hspa+. Downloaded the speedtest app and speed never goes over 1mbps. I pop my sim in my moms phone and gets over 18mbps. I don't get it.,
Hey buddy, have you try to unlock other bands? I'm not sure about band 4 (since I was not looking for band 4) but there are some bands that can be use. You may want to Follow this threat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/unlocked-lte-bands-vs985-t2909150
It worked for me for band 3 and 7, I hope it work for you too
Just asking, the phone is on stock LG Android, right?
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Hey buddy, have you try to unlock other bands? I'm not sure about band 4 (since I was not looking for band 4) but there are some bands that can be use. You may want to Follow this threat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/unlocked-lte-bands-vs985-t2909150
It worked for me for band 3 and 7, I hope it work for you too
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ATT uses band 4 and 17. Band 4 is the only one supported. From what I have read 3 is more for Europe.
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ATT uses band 4 and 17. Band 4 is the only one supported. From what I have read 3 is more for Europe.
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Yeah I know, but I was trying to explain the reason about why I was not sure if band 4 was available to unlock.
I live in Costa Rica but I bought an Lg G3 Verizon phone from eBay that happens to work in here as well, the band 3 is the one my carrier uses, so I was only interested in unlock that one.
I took an screenshot of the available bands to unlock by following the link I posted.
P.S: sorry if it wasn't clear, English is not my native language ?
I have a Verizon LG G3 on Cricket Wireless (which is owned and operated by AT&T) and I get LTE on mine everywhere I go. The reason is because I have the 10b modem installed. ANY modem after 12b disables LTE on other networks except for Verizon. You need to totally restore your phone to stock (including 10b radio). There is a thread here on XDA somewhere that tells you step by step how to restore your G3 to stock and 10b radio.
Rooting and installing a custom recovery, then installing 10b modem will not work at this point. I tried that. It WOULD NOT let me use 10b radio until I completely returned to stock. Then of course I rooted and installed custom recovery.
I also have to use Cyanogenmod or another AOSP ROM because stock roms have the newer radios and disable my LTE.
Hope this helps!
My nexus 5 died and i need a new phone. I have a Verizon LG G3 that I can use but I cannot get it to see LTE, only HSPA on AT&T.
I did some research and it seems I need to unlock carrier frequencies, or something similar.
SInce the phone has TWRP and is unlocked, is there any specific ROM I can flash to unlock all carrier frequencies? I really liked that with my Nexus nearly anywhere I went in the world I could just buy a sim, pop it in, and go. No hassle.
Thanks for your help in advance.
thats not needed with the VS985, all you literally have to do is insert your sim card, and then get the proper APN settings and thats it
It's just that the vs985 only supports band4 LTE on AT&T. In some coverage areas AT&T does not offer band4 LTE. If you are in a non-band4 area, you cannot get LTE from AT&T there, HSPA is the best you can get.
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In the G4 forum, we realized that Verizon has put some sort of firmware on the device that disables 4G LTE in GSM mode using a T-Mobile (or AT&T for that matter) SIM card, even though the phone does support the bands. When the phone is switched to CDMA mode, then 4G LTE works fine, but unfortunately voice doesn't work at the same time. See this thread here for more details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g4/help/lg-g4-vs986-t-mobile-lte-problem-t3195888
Can anybody try out the same with the V10 and report back? Would be intersting to know if Verizon now intentionally started crippling these devices (since it used to work fine on the G3), or this is some sort of bug that only applies to the G4 right now. Thanks!!
I use a VZW branded V10 with my tmo sim and can only get H or H+. Rarely does it get 4gLTE. And when it does sms does not work.
Thanks... but you do get 4G LTE sometimes when in GSM mode?!?
Can you change the system mode in the mobile settings to CDMA and check if it gets 4G LTE with the T-Mobile SIM card? And then in the same place switch it back to GSM and see if it falls back to H+ only? That's the behavior we saw on the G4, like Verizon is intentionally blocking LTE om GSM, even though the phone supports the band.
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Thanks... but you do get 4G LTE sometimes when in GSM mode?!?
Can you change the system mode in the mobile settings to CDMA and check if it gets 4G LTE with the T-Mobile SIM card? And then in the same place switch it back to GSM and see if it falls back to H+ only? That's the behavior we saw on the G4, like Verizon is intentionally blocking LTE om GSM, even though the phone supports the band.
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I am not sure if it is the same with Tmobile, but when trying to use a Tmobile variant on AT&T, LTE does not work either. It seems that you have to get the device provisioned by the carrier for LTE using it's IMEI, not just doing a SIM swap.
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Thanks... but you do get 4G LTE sometimes when in GSM mode?!?
Can you change the system mode in the mobile settings to CDMA and check if it gets 4G LTE with the T-Mobile SIM card? And then in the same place switch it back to GSM and see if it falls back to H+ only? That's the behavior we saw on the G4, like Verizon is intentionally blocking LTE om GSM, even though the phone supports the band.
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Yeah if i switch to CDMA, i get 4G LTE very often though i cannot send message or call
Can anyone tell me if u get the annoying unauthorized sim card message... if so can we stop it from appearing. Had that issue with my verizon htc m8.
I tried at a T-Mobile store earlier to see if one of their Sim cards would work in my VZW V10 and I had the same issues.
The pop up saying "not a Verizon Sim" or whatever came up after a few minutes of dismissing it as well.
When it first loaded up, I changed the APN to match the in-store display V10 with its exact settings. I changed the network mode from global to LTE/GSM and after a minute it showed it was connected with 4G LTE, but it went away after a few seconds. I couldn't get it to come back, and it only had like 2-3 bars, and H for data. I know it wasn't from lack of signal because the display V10 had full bars with LTE.
I also tried sending a text using the T-Mobile SIM to one of my other numbers, but it didn't go through at all. Didn't try placing a call, but regardless it didn't seem like it would be worth it to switch.
No 4g LTE
Still waiting for a fix,can get no 4g LTE on t mobile,I'm on marsmallow so I lost root access
I'm Canadian, I just bought an unlocked Verizon V10 on ebay and I'm planning to use it on a Canadian carrier. Does this mean I should expect to have no LTE data at all on this phone in Canada? Poops I never would have bought it if that was the case.
Let me know, I may try a return without opening the package.
how different is the speed between HSPA+ and LTE? is it noticeable
does it bother you that its not LTE?
I bought a phone from a seller on swappa. when he listed it. the phone had a clean ESN.
took it to the verizon store to setup verizon prepaid and it was flagged a non pay account
cannot activate.
I am using my ATT sim card right now
I can return it but on the secondary market is many LGV10 phones are going to be flagged for non payment when the accounts go into collections, it then buyers could get screwed.
I might just stick with the phone. But i can never use it on verizon. I have to wait for a Root on marshmallow, and fix after that if I want LTE speeds on ATT or TMO
I got LTE working. In happy with it. I think the US phones work in Canada even with a bad imei.
Another area on a long long laundry list where canada is better than the usa. hockey and standardized healthcare being 1 and 2... hahaha
I was having the same issue on my Verizon v10 vs990 on my T-Mobile network. I went into the APN settings and set it to LTE/CDMA and it works perfectly. Calls, SMS and data.