I started seeing a "Slow Charge" notification yesterday saying that I should plug in a genuine HTC charger to optimize the charging time. I normally charge the phone at my PC using a USB docking station and have done this since the phone was new in April without ever getting this notification. Despite the notification, it still seems to charge fine though, although it might be imperceptibly slower, I didn't really test it. I did test with a wall charger and the notification went away (it wasn't the HTC charger), so at least it is checking for something.
I am charging the phone at work today (also through USB/computer) and get the same message, so it isn't just the home setup.
A couple theories that someone might be able to shoot down for me:
I accidentally ran my phone completely out on Saturday, would that have triggered anything? Maybe the battery needs a few cycles now that it has been fully* discharged?
The phone has been fairly warm when plugging in the last couple days (new game ), would that trigger this? It wasn't warm every time though and the notification is still there.
Unlikely, but was there a change with the 4.3 update that might effect this?
*The phone shut off, but I assume that didn't damage the battery since the phone did an automatic/controlled shutdown at 1% or so to go.
USB charges at 100mA and can ramp up to 500mA. The wall charger is 1A and will therefore charge significantly faster. Neither is an issue, but my HTC One has a tendency to see any non-charger as a USB port and therefore slow the charging. Only real problem is driving with GPS running.
SinisterJunkie said:
USB charges at 100mA and can ramp up to 500mA. The wall charger is 1A and will therefore charge significantly faster. Neither is an issue, but my HTC One has a tendency to see any non-charger as a USB port and therefore slow the charging. Only real problem is driving with GPS running.
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Thanks.
Like I said, it hasn't been a problem, I don't even notice the difference in time to charge, it is just that it is new. And after 6+ months of ownership, something new randomly appearing is weird.
It is currently charging in the same port and doesn't have the notification by the way, so it appears random. Go figure.
I agree that it appears randomly. I'm not a fan of this 'feature' that HTC built in. I'm still looking to find out what HTC's threshold is the activates the notification and the slow charge mode. The only charger that this concerns me on is my car charger, but I haven't received the message lately. I also have not used my GPS on a long trip in a while.
Same issue "Slow Charge" notification + No PC connection
I also purchased my phone in April. Just recently (month or so) my phone is now giving me the "slow charge" notification. Also, I can no longer connect to ANY computer. I have tried 6+ computers and none of them recognize the phone. The phone doesn't seem to notice it is plugged in to a USB port either. I have tried toggling the Developer Options and USB debugging without any change. There doesn't seem to be much info on the internet regarding this issue, but the ones that I do find seem to be similar to my issue. This seemed to happen after the 4.3 update.
Are you also having problems with accessing your phone storage when connected to a computer? Thanks.
Dazrin said:
I started seeing a "Slow Charge" notification yesterday saying that I should plug in a genuine HTC charger to optimize the charging time. I normally charge the phone at my PC using a USB docking station and have done this since the phone was new in April without ever getting this notification. Despite the notification, it still seems to charge fine though, although it might be imperceptibly slower, I didn't really test it. I did test with a wall charger and the notification went away (it wasn't the HTC charger), so at least it is checking for something.
I am charging the phone at work today (also through USB/computer) and get the same message, so it isn't just the home setup.
A couple theories that someone might be able to shoot down for me:
I accidentally ran my phone completely out on Saturday, would that have triggered anything? Maybe the battery needs a few cycles now that it has been fully* discharged?
The phone has been fairly warm when plugging in the last couple days (new game ), would that trigger this? It wasn't warm every time though and the notification is still there.
Unlikely, but was there a change with the 4.3 update that might effect this?
*The phone shut off, but I assume that didn't damage the battery since the phone did an automatic/controlled shutdown at 1% or so to go.
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Hi bigpile,
Did you find a solution for this? It now happens to me too (slow charger notification and no usb debugging).
Same issue..
My HTC just started doing that. Tried all the usb ports on my pc it comes up with a "slow charge" message but if I plug it into a wall charger (a Nokia micro usb on in fact) it works fine.
Main concern is that the phone will no longer come up under "My Computer"
I can charge it fine using the wall charger but it just doesn't want to work through my usb port on the pc (I have tried changing the cable same issue)
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Gidday - This morning I woke up to find my phone had switched itself off during the night while on charge.
Last night I put my phone to charge through USB connected to my PC in sleep mode. I've been charging the phone like this since I got it 3 weeks ago and its been working fine.
When I woke up in the morning I found the phone off and when I gave the power button a short press expecting it to show me the time all I got was a battery charging symbol.
When I went to bed I had the standard "Clock" feature running that comes standard with the Neo so it acts like a bedside clock and I always have the Wifi on when I'm at home.
No other applications were running in the background apart from the normal stuff but I'm quite concerned that the phone turned itself off while I was sleeping because I use the alarm feature to wake me up when I need to go to work and I know these Android phones do not wake themselves up to run the alarm.
Any ideas what could be causing this?
Now this is very funny you say this because this happens to me,,, but I'm convinced I turn it off myself,in my sleep my partner confirms lol
But seriously could of just been a reboot
As long as it don't happen again it should be no great consern ''unless you sleep in for work'' lol
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I heard charging like this(from night to morning) is not good for the battery.The owner of the shop where I brought my W595,Neo V specially told me NOT to do this,as he said this can reduce both battery life and phones life.Anyway don't get that much concerned about itself switching off mate after only happening it once.But if can in future don't charge like that.
lol kormatoes ,I on the other hand when ppl call in night sometimes I was told that I just answer it and instead talking keep it beside my pillow thinking it was alarm and go back to sleep xD
Was the phone fully charged when you woke up? If not I would guess something went wrong with the laptop..
I've never left my phone plugged into a laptop for charging, I always use the wall plug overnight.. And don't worry, plugging your phone in every night is not bad for your battery it control's the charge and drops down to 98% when it gets to 100% before charging again.. This trickle effect on a li-ion battery is fine (would have been bad for nicad or nimh tho) and your using a laptop usb which only delivers about 500ma that's a really nice slow (low C) charge rate, li-ion and li-poly batteries love to keep topped up, what they hate is to be discharged to much. (my 2c)
If you're really worried about this (random shutdown) happening on a work day then use the wall charger the phone came with.. Just to eliminate any other factors that might have contributed to it turning off (use the laptop on your days/nights off to try and replicate the fault) would be interesting to figure it out what caused it..
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Thanks for your comments guys.
I'm not sure why charging it via usb is going to do it any harm? or was the guy in the shop trying so say that its not good to have the phone plugged into the charger for hours on end once it gets fully charged? either way I've been thinking that charging via usb is better for the battery because its a lower energy input and therefore charges the battery slower/cooler which in turn should make it last longer (just guessing here - no science to back this up)
Then there is the having it plugged in while at 100% - I've noticed that the phone somehow disconnects itself and stops charging the battery when at 100%. I noticed this today when I started my phone after its surprising shutdown = the battery was fully charged (because it had been plugged in all night) and the battery display refused to show me that the phone was plugged in (when it was) so I turned on the flash light feature and blasted some music to drop the %tage down and sure enough as soon as the percentage dropped below 100% the indicators on the phone started to show the batter was charging (both via the lightening bolt in the normal battery icon and also on my battery monitor which tells me if its charging and how much longer it will be charging for).
I'm looking forward to seeing if the phone is still on tomorrow when I get up.
Any more ideas much appreciated - once might not sound like much but if the alarm/phone had the potential to be even the slightest bit unreliable then I'm going to have to go back to the old alarm clock. At least with my Nokia I could even switch the phone off and the alarm would still chime (we've all experienced this with the old school phones) but I notice that android hasn't managed this yet.
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Was the phone fully charged when you woke up? If not I would guess something went wrong with the laptop..
I've never left my phone plugged into a laptop for charging, I always use the wall plug overnight.. And don't worry, plugging your phone in every night is not bad for your battery it control's the charge and drops down to 98% when it gets to 100% before charging again.. This trickle effect on a li-ion battery is fine (would have been bad for nicad or nimh tho) and your using a laptop usb which only delivers about 500ma that's a really nice slow (low C) charge rate, li-ion and li-poly batteries love to keep topped up, what they hate is to be discharged to much. (my 2c)
If you're really worried about this (random shutdown) happening on a work day then use the wall charger the phone came with.. Just to eliminate any other factors that might have contributed to it turning off (use the laptop on your days/nights off to try and replicate the fault) would be interesting to figure it out what caused it..
Kiwi
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Thanks for your thoughts Kiwi (I've only just figured out who this is ) - The laptop was in sleep mode and from what I've experienced the only thing that works when in this mode is the usb ports - the Wifi and the Bluetooth shut down and I'm guessing that the processor mostly shuts down too? guessing here?
But even so what on the computer might cause the phone to crash?
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I'm not sure why charging it via usb is going to do it any harm? or was the guy in the shop trying so say that its not good to have the phone plugged into the charger for hours on end once it gets fully charged?
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Sorry if my earlier post was confusing,he told me its not good to have it plugged into the charger for longer periods of time after its fully charged.I too normally charge it with pc as phone came with one usb cable + charger plug with usb port & usb cable is always attached to my pc.Anyway about that keeping it for the whole night is bad theory I'm not sure if its correct or wrong but I prefer not keeping it plugged in for like 6-7 hours everyday while it only need 2-3 hours maximum to fully charge.
But even so what on the computer might cause the phone to crash?
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Normally if phone crashes it reboots right ? instead switching off ?
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Sorry if my earlier post was confusing,he told me its not good to have it plugged into the charger for longer periods of time after its fully charged.I too normally charge it with pc as phone came with one usb cable + charger plug with usb port & usb cable is always attached to my pc.Anyway about that keeping it for the whole night is bad theory I'm not sure if its correct or wrong but I prefer not keeping it plugged in for like 6-7 hours everyday while it only need 2-3 hours maximum to fully charge.
Normally if phone crashes it reboots right ? instead switching off ?
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I've noticed that when you reboot while plugged in, it might just go right into charge mode. Try turning it on, and then plug it in righ thereafter. Likely it will not boot, but go to the charge animation.
Can't try it myself, phone's in for repair
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I've noticed that when you reboot while plugged in, it might just go right into charge mode. Try turning it on, and then plug it in righ thereafter. Likely it will not boot, but go to the charge animation.
Can't try it myself, phone's in for repair
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Hmm interesting theory - but I've tried it and the phone has restarted : (
Probably a good thing but still no closer to finding the solution except I'm wondering if it was because my ROM memory was pretty much full? So in case it was I've moved a few things from System apps to User apps in the hope that the phone wont switch off by itself again.
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Hmm interesting theory - but I've tried it and the phone has restarted : (
Probably a good thing but still no closer to finding the solution except I'm wondering if it was because my ROM memory was pretty much full? So in case it was I've moved a few things from System apps to User apps in the hope that the phone wont switch off by itself again.
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If you're rooted, I can recommend Link2SD.
HilfordJames and I have discussed this in length already so this is more for other people's benefit..
Link to sd can be dangerous, as can forcing apps to sd that don't offer the choice normally, app developers block the option to install to sd for a reason, that is usually because the app accesses services that can become corupt or crash if the app is suddenly ejected from the phone (like when you mount the sd card on the computer) so its best to leave those apps on the internal memory.
The most likely reason for the overnight shutdown would be (as you said) that you had filled your system memory up with user apps.
Sure enough once you've deleted all that bloatware from the system you have heaps of room just begging to be filled in the system partition.. But you gotta leave some room in there (about 60-70mb should be enough)
I think another thing could be if your computer somehow woke up in the middle of the night and accessed (auto mounted) your phones sd card, sounds unlikely but I've had laptops run scheduled updates in the middle of the night when they were supposed to be "asleep" if this happened and you had an application running off sd card that uses phone services (like Wifi, bluetooth etc) this may have crashed the phone.. And as it was plugged into power remained shutdown.. Once again (AFAIK) these apps should be installed on the phone not sd card. (games and similar apps are fine on sd card)
Just a couple of theories, but I think we are on the right track
Kiwi
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Yip all good.
Since transferring a lot of the files/apps back to user memory I've not had the phone auto shutoff and I've tested it by leaving it on the CPU at night as well and it seems fine - although I now charge it from the wall charger if I'm working the next day just to be on the safe side.
So last night before I went to sleep, my NT had about 40% battery life left in it. I'm currently running the final alpha build of CM7. I've been experiencing really bad wifi loss issues and have kept the 'Never' option enabled under the wifi sleep policy (thinking that would help hold the connection).
I woke up to find the NT was turned off. Figured that was odd as I was only asleep for about 5hrs. I turned it on and then noticed it got into the OS and then died. I did see the battery icon was red briefly.
I then plugged it into the wall and it was boot looping. I saw the 'n' logo pop up, screen went black, 'n' logo, etc. etc.
After numerous attempts of holding down the power button for 20+ seconds, holding power+vol down for 10 seconds, plugging it with or without an sd card into the wall and computer, nothing is happening.
The computer does see something as I'm hearing the common connected/disconnected tone from the USB port. Now I'm noticing that plugged into the wall, the 'n' on the cable stays orange. It never turns green.
Did it go 'poof' in the night somehow?
[EDIT] Ok after leaving it plugged into the wall for about 15mins, it suddenly turned on but had a google framework FC error. Yeah, not sure what I should do at this point. It appears to be charging...
It's been noted by others that if the power level goes below 15% you mustn't turn the device off if you don't have the original charger nearby. If it dies you need to charge it with the original charger for a bit before it'll power back up.
I assume this means that you can't run it off the cable while you've got a completely dead battery. That kind of stinks but isn't too surprising, a lot of devices are like that.
So does that mean that if the device is <40% of battery I need to plug it in if I won't be around it for a while? Not sure I'm cool with that. Battery life was great all day yesterday but somehow it dropped 40% in under 5hrs while asleep.
I can't really say much as I haven't dealt with it personally. People were talking about it in a couple threads about the NT's charger and unique 12 pin cable.
Here's what I understand from what I've read:
You can run it until it's empty all you like. You'll just need to use the Nook's factory charger (or a compatible 2A charger with bridged D- and D+ pins) AND (this is the important one) the factory USB cable to charge it.
If you run it until it dies you have to charge it for a little while before it'll turn on again, BUT you have to use the original cord and charger. It won't charge off of a regular micro USB cable nor will it work if you're using a 2A or smaller charger that doesn't have the middle two pins bridges (the Apple UBS chargers won't work nor will your PC's USB ports, for example).
The NT will charge, albeit slowly, if connected with a third party cable or USB charger (without the data lines D- and D+ bridged), but not if the device's power has been depleted.
So I suspect something sucked up a lot of juice while you weren't using your NT. Not a huge deal, but definitely annoying. Plug it in for 15 minutes and you can get rolling again.... BUT only if you're using the original charger and cable. Lovely isn't it? It's not a huge problem but it is annoying. I wish you could at least use the device with a dead battery while plugged in.
I just mention the charger/stock cable thing because I'm sure someone will probably see this post in the future and may be having that particular problem resuscitating their NT.
Cool, yeah I don't specifically set out to run it down to zero but since the device is clean with minimal stuff running in the background, it's difficult to know when this might happen again. I assumed I'd wake up with like 20-25% battery left. The framework FC is also something I'm concerned about but maybe it was just a fluke.
Ah well, really do appreciate your input and I'll be sure to keep the stock cable/adapter on hand when I'm on the go.
Battery showed fully charged, I rebooted to do another CWM backup and then when it came back up it showed 84% charged. Lol. And this pic made me laugh even more. Time to get that lady from Poltergeist involved I think...
The Google Framework force close is typical of stock rooted NTs. I don't believe it ever did any harm to anything though. Just that it sometimes appears on reboot.
I'll ask one additional question as to not make another topic since it's related.
Opinions on battery calibration with the NT? That was one of the reasons I didn't charge it last night as I wanted to fully run it down and then fully charge it back up. Does the NT require this with a new rom install? That pic above shows the battery gauge clearly wasn't correct initially.
Your battery is draining overnight because wifi is running the whole time (as you stated in your first post).
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Your battery is draining overnight because wifi is running the whole time (as you stated in your first post).
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That's what I obviously thought of at first but it didn't drain nearly as much when I was using it throughout the day. The only thing I can think of is maybe the fuel gauge itself was wrong from the start, which refers back to my calibration question.
My GS2 has the sleep policy set to 'Never' as well and only loses maybe 7-8% after being asleep for around 7-8hrs and it certainly uses more juice in sleep due to the cell communication, etc.
Is anybody having issues with the charging of their SGS3?
It seems that my device charges as and when it wants. I wanted to find out how wide spread the issue is and the different cases in which it does not charge.
This could possibly help find some sort of temporary resolution.
My Galaxy note is extremely temperamental when it comes to charging. It doesn't seem to like any other cable than the one that came with it. I've been through several cables trying to find another that will charge it.
Some cables said they were charging the unit (and it the meter was going up) until I unplugged the cable to find the battery level drop from 100% to 5% in a second. With another cable, the handset said it was being charged, but the screen locked out and wouldn't recognise gestures. Others just wouldn't charge and the phone didn't even recognise them. It was all very odd.
In the end I gave up and just used the stock cable. It could be a Samsung thing?!?
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I unplugged the cable to find the battery level drop from 100% to 5% in a second.
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Same for me on SGS2 (GT-I9100). Often it discharged so much, it was switched off by the battery's low-voltage-protection-circuit. Then the phone started again because it had 5V at the USB and tried charging, but couldn't because the battery was not able to power the phone until the charging process started, so I had a nice bootloop
I had to build a constant-current-circuit with a LM317 to charge the battery a bit until it could be charged by the phone again.
It seems like the only way of getting rid of this is by using the original charger..
(Would be great if Samsung could make their devices be able to run from usb-power only)
Brought my unlocked S9+ home from BestBuy Friday (the first day they became available in the US). I successfully charged it up a couple times with the provided Samsung quick charger (wired) and a cheap wireless charger I grabbed at Walmart. However last night, having the phone on the charging stand I noticed the phone's red LED remained on too long even though the charging stand light indicated it was charging the phone. Finally early this morning I checked the battery level and it had gone down. The phone was not charging. I plugged the phone into the Samsung charger for the rest of the morning. After an hour or so I checked again and the level had drop a few more percentage points! WTF?? Anyway I shut down the phone and then tried again with the wired quick charger. This time it charged fine.
I wonder if this is a pending future problem. To be honest I was watching a YouTube tutorial last night on how to bring up the diagnostic screen (using a series of phone pad key presses). I wonder if that messed with the phone somehow (I did not knowingly make any changes. Just tried some of the "tests").
Anyway, hopefully this was just a one time issue...... If not, I'll report back.
I haven't noticed any issues. Maybe it was just a one off. The only thing that will truly tell is time I guess
what temperature had the battery?
Above 45°C?
I've had this issue. I caught it when the charging failed -- had an error about CPU being too high/hot. It would not charge until I re-sat the device on the wireless charger.
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I've had this issue. I caught it when the charging failed -- had an error about CPU being too high/hot. It would not charge until I re-sat the device on the wireless charger.
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I did not notice an error message. By "re-setting" the phone on the charger do you mean moving it around?
i have this same issues. It says Fast Charging, But battery level gone down. Any one notice, Its simply say Fast Charging. But whenever its says Fast Charging and in Bracket (Its says how much time it take to complete) in that time charging works fine. I think its a software issue. Because i tried click Fast Charging turned off and on again.....then charging works fine. Some way in Software blocking this. I hope so.
I have noticed that fast Charging does not always happen even with the stock charger. However, if I reboot then fast charging kicks in. Is this a known issue?
No, I always have fast charging. Maybe you need to return your tab for warranty.
Techvir said:
I have noticed that fast Charging does not always happen even with the stock charger. However, if I reboot then fast charging kicks in. Is this a known issue?
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I have this problem as a result of getting something in the charging port, or inside the USBC cable itself. All resulting in a moisture detected error. Powering down the tablet, plugging it in and allowing the charge indicator to come on would resolve the issue, but every time I unplug the tablet I would get the error again. I followed instructions on XDA regarding USB C fast charging problems and it seemed to fix the error. I think there's still something in the cable itself because the whole problem has expressed twice now. But in the interim comma over a few days if I plug the charger in one way I would get a slow charge warning that I wasn't using the original charger. But it's the charger that came in the Box. If I unplugged it, turned the charger around and plugged it in the other way it would fast charge again. So I'm guessing there's some kind of material in the charger itself that I can't get to that's affecting how many contacts are being made. I'm still working to resolve the issue with the original charger, but I'm thinking about just getting another USB C cable. I need a longer one than ships with the tablet in the first place.
When I went to chat with customer service, they wanted me to send it in under warranty. But I really didn't want to do without the tablet for 2 weeks or more, so researching it online has solved the issue somewhat. I might take it in to a Samsung kiosk and just see if they'll try to fix it with air duster.