Im currently on ME7 / Safestrap on Bean's Build 7.
I know lots of folks are all over the board on ME7, MI1, and MJ7.
I know MJ7 isnt compatible with safestrap yet, so I dont think thats correct. Is the update to MI1 worth going through? IIRC its compatible with safestrap, what ROM is best for MI1? I've read that Eclipse is nice.
Also, I havent dabbled in kernels with this phone yet. Is there a way to to kernels in SS?
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Im currently on ME7 / Safestrap on Bean's Build 7.
I know lots of folks are all over the board on ME7, MI1, and MJ7.
I know MJ7 isnt compatible with safestrap yet, so I dont think thats correct. Is the update to MI1 worth going through? IIRC its compatible with safestrap, what ROM is best for MI1? I've read that Eclipse is nice.
Also, I havent dabbled in kernels with this phone yet. Is there a way to to kernels in SS?
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My advice is to stay on me7 a little while longer. Right now all the roms for touch wiz are built on it. I believe you can flash the different radios in safestrap but read that thread to be sure. The links for the radios are in general.
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My advice is to stay on me7 a little while longer. Right now all the roms for touch wiz are built on it. I believe you can flash the different radios in safestrap but read that thread to be sure. The links for the radios are in general.
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Thanks for the reply. Ill stick with ME7. I didnt really want to work on flashing anything else tonight anyway.
Are the bootloaders the same throughout the basebands? If different, would one be potentially unlocked before later ones?
And lastly, do you know what nonhlos is? I don't. I probably dont need it, but I would like to be enlightened. Google turned up nothing when I searched for it. Well, not nothing. But I couldnt find what I was looking for.
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Thanks for the reply. Ill stick with ME7. I didnt really want to work on flashing anything else tonight anyway.
Are the bootloaders the same throughout the basebands? If different, would one be potentially unlocked before later ones?
And lastly, do you know what nonhlos is? I don't. I probably dont need it, but I would like to be enlightened. Google turned up nothing when I searched for it. Well, not nothing. But I couldnt find what I was looking for.
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Well the baseband is different from the bootloader. Baseband is just the radio. As to one being more likely to be unlocked? I suspect if the crack one the same exploit will work on the others. But maybe not.
I'm not sure about nonhlos either. I be seen no definitive answer. Surge might be able to answer. He seems to know the answer but have not seen him share it. Maybe he'll see this and do it. Oh and seen your questions about kernels. Right now in SS you can't flash any custom kernels. Waiting for a kexec exploit.
Well there is this about non hlos.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47163389
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Well the baseband is different from the bootloader. Baseband is just the radio. As to one being more likely to be unlocked? I suspect if the crack one the same exploit will work on the others. But maybe not.
I'm not sure about nonhlos either. I be seen no definitive answer. Surge might be able to answer. He seems to know the answer but have not seen him share it. Maybe he'll see this and do it. Oh and seen your questions about kernels. Right now in SS you can't flash any custom kernels. Waiting for a kexec exploit.
Well there is this about non hlos.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47163389
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Thanks again. Baseband=radio. Got it. Now why are the roms "built" according to their names? Is it just referring to the TW build that was in the OTA with that radio?
Sorry, I have a lot to learn. Spent some time on iPhones and a lot of time on AOSP where I didn't pay much attention to these things.
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Thanks again. Baseband=radio. Got it. Now why are the roms "built" according to their names? Is it just referring to the TW build that was in the OTA with that radio?
Sorry, I have a lot to learn. Spent some time on iPhones and a lot of time on AOSP where I didn't pay much attention to these things.
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Yeah. The build. No probs. Ask away.
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Was already on ME7 so I was already screwed anyways...figured I would hope for the best. Not sure on whats been updated.....
I got it too.....I wish there was a change log
Can anyone figure out what its for?
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Wonder if safe strap works with this update?
I wish I knew.... kies doesn't list any kind of change log.... Can't tell much yet.... But it's only been on my phone for about an hour or so...
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Wonder if safe strap works with this update?
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Never rooted ME7... just kinda gave up... So haven't tried safestrap on it
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Never rooted ME7... just kinda gave up... So haven't tried safestrap on it
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Ya, users that enjoy stock then update away and see what's new and exciting. If someone is using safestrap on me7 for roms then I would wait on the update until it is tested.
Lol. I screwed something up by getting over my head with some deep settings and ended up losing 3g/4g. I was on mdk and rooted. My last resort was to unroot and factory reset. I then thought hey I'll update to me7 and go the safe strap route. I get back to my desk and see MI1 as updated and current version. Wonderful my luck has been today!!
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Has anyone tried safe strap on this update?
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Im uploading the factory image now. Im looking through it too.
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If you are using ME7 and safe strap I would wait on trying the new update. It comes with a secure boot update. If you like to use roms I would wait for the devs to figure it out.
Anyone able to pull the modem yet?
Woaaa my bad. Didn't realize how young this thread was. Hasn't been enough time for that to happen yet.
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Anyone able to pull the modem yet?
Woaaa my bad. Didn't realize how young this thread was. Hasn't been enough time for that to happen yet.
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I have it, do you need it?
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I have it, do you need it?
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Oh yeah. Is it flashable. If not I think I can. Use one of the other modem zips to make it that way.
Can we get a flashable modem though? Maybe with any luck they gave use the LTE band 4 AND AWS. My hopes Have come back maybe us T-Mobile guys can get our AWS!
Anyone willing to test if this new build is rootable from stock using the same method that worked before on ME7?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
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Oh yeah. Is it flashable. If not I think I can. Use one of the other modem zips to make it that way.
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Can we get a flashable modem though? Maybe with any luck they gave use the LTE band 4 AND AWS. My hopes Have come back maybe us T-Mobile guys can get our AWS!
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I'll pm it to you guys if you want, but I don't think anyone should post them publicly until we know how/if it has any effect on root
I will try this root method sometime today and get the results back. I was mainly like everyone else and curious about safestrap with update.
Please do. The modem itself shouldnt have any effect. But please do.
Well nothing on the inter webs that I can find. Most speculating all under the hood stuff and security of course. Still running stock rooted/debloated as DD so will probably steer clear myself.
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Hey guys, just got my S4 and I'm really happy with it, but I'm just so lost with all of the locked boot loader things and Loki ect. I don't know where to start at all. I'm sorry if this is the wrong thread to ask, if it is, could you guys point me in the right direction? Once again, sorry.
Thanks in advance!
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Hey guys, just got my S4 and I'm really happy with it, but I'm just so lost with all of the locked boot loader things and Loki ect. I don't know where to start at all. I'm sorry if this is the wrong thread to ask, if it is, could you guys point me in the right direction? Once again, sorry.
Thanks in advance!
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Best place to start is finding out what build you're on as options are limited to some degree depending upon that. I'm assuming you're going to be on one of the newer ones. Lemme know and we'll go from there bud.
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Unfortunately, I am on the newest build that came out. I had no idea that the bootloaders were locked until after I updated. I actually came from the S3 so I pretty much know the tools that I need and things like that but I have never ever heard of Loki before, all I know is its some type of makeshift work around for the bootloader.
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Unfortunately, I am on the newest build that came out. I had no idea that the bootloaders were locked until after I updated. I actually came from the S3 so I pretty much know the tools that I need and things like that but I have never ever heard of Loki before, all I know is its some type of makeshift work around for the bootloader.
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You will not be able to install a custom recovery on your device, as any build past MDK (the original build) has pretty much been locked down. Only MDK people have the ability to use Loki.
Your only alternative is Safestrap, basically you can only flash ROMs that use the stock kernel...which means no AOSP. There's a thread for it here somewhere.
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Damn that's dissapointing to say the least. I really loved AOSP on my S3 and I really hear that its pretty great on on the S4. Oh well, I will just enjoy 4.3 until 4.4 comes later this month, or year due to Verizon's AMAZING speed when it comes to updates. -_-
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Unfortunately, I am on the newest build that came out. I had no idea that the bootloaders were locked until after I updated. I actually came from the S3 so I pretty much know the tools that I need and things like that but I have never ever heard of Loki before, all I know is its some type of makeshift work around for the bootloader.
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if you do some reading, you find that safestrap recovery is available for your phone....limited ROMs but at least its an avenue.
read and research !!!
I've been away a while. If I'm understanding correctly I can one click route my MK2 and install Samsung based ROMs without a custom recovery using mobile Odin. Can anyone please confirm it or correct me? If I'm right can you give me ideas what to look for in a ROM that will work with this method. Thanks and sorry if this has been asked. I did search but there wasn't much to look at in terms of direct solutions.
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I've been away a while. If I'm understanding correctly I can one click route my MK2 and install Samsung based ROMs without a custom recovery using mobile Odin. Can anyone please confirm it or correct me? If I'm right can you give me ideas what to look for in a ROM that will work with this method. Thanks and sorry if this has been asked. I did search but there wasn't much to look at in terms of direct solutions.
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Personally, I've never heard of what you're describing. The only way I know of with MK2 is to root using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758.
After that, your only option for roms is Safestrap. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441. You will only be able to install TouchWiz 4.3 based roms. Make sure they're compatible with Safestrap before you install.
My advice would be to do a lot of research. This is a good place to start. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501.
Good luck
Edit: Just noticed your profile says your using AT&T. This is the Verizon forum.
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I've been away a while. If I'm understanding correctly I can one click route my MK2 and install Samsung based ROMs without a custom recovery using mobile Odin. Can anyone please confirm it or correct me? If I'm right can you give me ideas what to look for in a ROM that will work with this method. Thanks and sorry if this has been asked. I did search but there wasn't much to look at in terms of direct solutions.
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This is the Verizon forum, not at&t. However I believe mobile odin is only useful for restoring the phone to a factory state without a computer, not flashing roms, yet you must be rooted. I could be wrong though.
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Personally, I've never heard of what you're describing. The only way I know of with MK2 is to root using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758.
After that, your only option for roms is Safestrap. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441. You will only be able to install TouchWiz 4.3 based roms. Make sure they're compatible with Safestrap before you install.
My advice would be to do a lot of research. This is a good place to start. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501.
Good luck
Edit: Just noticed your profile says your using AT&T. This is the Verizon forum.
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Haven't updated that, I'm with Verizon.
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It is possible to flash rom via Odin have done it on me devices not sure if this would be a exception maybe contact some devs to see where this lies
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It is possible to flash rom via Odin have done it on me devices not sure if this would be a exception maybe contact some devs to see where this lies
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Well as far as I know Odin is just for flashing the firmwares and a custom recovery is for flashing ROMs. Maybe there is an exception, but I don't think so
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Mistertac said:
Well as far as I know Odin is just for flashing the firmwares and a custom recovery is for flashing ROMs. Maybe there is an exception, but I don't think so
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This is my understanding too..Perhaps one of our brainiacs can clarify
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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This is my understanding too..Perhaps one of our brainiacs can clarify
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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Maybe just clarifying what someone thinks a ROM is, guess you could think firmware is a ROM if you're new to this kind of stuff.
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Generally yes for recoveries and stock firmwares however it does need to be in a tarball file which would take some time I imagine trying to recall what phone it was but this was a few years ago a lot has changed since the n
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Ok looking like I misunderstood then. Thanks for the clarification. I don't think I trust the idea of the safestrap. I know it's safer, but I have been flashing ROMs for years and the recovery method makes me warm and tingly. I don't think they'll ever crack into the ability to flash the way we're all used to. For every genius we have that's capable of figuring it out, Samsung has 10 that can stop it. I pray they get it, but my hopes are fading.
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Ok looking like I misunderstood then. Thanks for the clarification. I don't think I trust the idea of the safestrap. I know it's safer, but I have been flashing ROMs for years and the recovery method makes me warm and tingly. I don't think they'll ever crack into the ability to flash the way we're all used to. For every genius we have that's capable of figuring it out, Samsung has 10 that can stop it. I pray they get it, but my hopes are fading.
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safestrap has been around for years for other phones and recently hashcode ported to the S4 last fall. I have used it since that time with zero issues and have been running several ROMs at a time to evaluate, with again no issues with safestrap. Not sure why you wouldn't "trust it".....as it gives all us non-MDK owners ability to run something else than just stock.
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safestrap has been around for years for other phones and recently hashcode ported to the S4 last fall. I have used it since that time with zero issues and have been running several ROMs at a time to evaluate, with again no issues with safestrap. Not sure why you wouldn't "trust it".....as it gives all us non-MDK owners ability to run something else than just stock.
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Exactly, I've been hammering away on Safestrap since my RAZR and it's really safe just like the name implies. Granted I could flash AOSP on the razr, but my guess is at some point kexec will come around for the S4 as well. Too many really smart people working on that project for it to fail in my opinion.
Anyways.... For now Safestrap is awesome, and happy to have it.
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Now if there were more ROM options lol!
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Now if there were more ROM options lol!
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slowly getting there. Takes some time and while many SS roms are available they all come up short to my main day to day HD12 Rom....battery life is simply amazing
I've searched forums and seen a few ppl ask but haven't seen an answer yet. I'm wondering how clean the OTA update to Hyperdrive rls13 is with safestrap? I have a Verizon S4 with MK2 and safestrap 3.71.
Thanks in advance for the help!
How clean? It's clean of course. Details can be found in the ROM's thread.
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How clean? It's clean of course. Details can be found in the ROM's thread.
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Lol almost dropped my phone.. When I caught it submitted a thank you for your post.
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Lol almost dropped my phone.. When I caught it submitted a thank you for your post.
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Lol when I catch my phone I say thank God for not cracking the screen... I guess you just thank me instead?
Does that mean I'm God?
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Lol when I catch my phone I say thank God for not cracking the screen... I guess you just thank me instead?
Does that mean I'm God?
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So I've searched the ROM's thread, the safestrap thread, and the general forums. Like I said, I've seen multiple people ask about it, but no one has replied. While I appreciate expecting people to have done a forum search, I have done this. I know safestrap is a little bit different than a S4 MDK bootloader.
What I have seen is replies from people who have done the upgrade from scratch and clearing their ROM slots first. I'm sure this works fine. I'm asking about something a bit different.
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So I've searched the ROM's thread, the safestrap thread, and the general forums. Like I said, I've seen multiple people ask about it, but no one has replied. While I appreciate expecting people to have done a forum search, I have done this. I know safestrap is a little bit different than a S4 MDK bootloader.
What I have seen is replies from people who have done the upgrade from scratch and clearing their ROM slots first. I'm sure this works fine. I'm asking about something a bit different.
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The rom itself is very smooth no issues for me at all... I installed to a previously used slot via sstrap3.71 after clearing data cache etc. Are you wanting to know if you can lack of better terms dirty flash personally I just back up, wipe then istall.
My question is, I guess, if you can do the OTA upgrade in one step? Is that just a download of the ROM then u need to flash it yourself? Or does it simply upgrade to RLS13 and keep your data and work smoothly with that method. Most people it seems do a clean ROM install for the upgrade as opposed to OTA.
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My question is, I guess, if you can do the OTA upgrade in one step? Is that just a download of the ROM then u need to flash it yourself? Or does it simply upgrade to RLS13 and keep your data and work smoothly with that method. Most people it seems do a clean ROM install for the upgrade as opposed to OTA.
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I myself usually just download the file then do a clean install. Just seems to go better for me that way. Up to you though
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I myself usually just download the file then do a clean install. Just seems to go better for me that way. Up to you though
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to me, this is the only way ever to install any ROM. Download to computer, verify MD5 of the DL and copy over to extsd card. Reduces the risk of a bad install........just saying, there are reasons some of us NEVER have an installation issue on any ROM
Hi guys,
Can safestrap roms allow for overclocking or underclocking (with the stock samsung s4 kernel)?
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Hi guys,
Can safestrap roms allow for overclocking or underclocking (with the stock samsung s4 kernel)?
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The stock kernel doesn't allow it. You can only use the stock kernel with Safestrap. So, no over/under clocking.
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The stock kernel doesn't allow it. You can only use the stock kernel with Safestrap. So, no over/under clocking.
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Oh, thanks. Does that mean the Hyperdrive rom CPU settings will not work for me? Thanks! Sorry.. I'm new to andriod. It just that Im confused why hyperdrive would have that CPU settings feature if it doesn't work.
Raymondlikesroot said:
Oh, thanks. Does that mean the Hyperdrive rom CPU settings will not work for me? Thanks! Sorry.. I'm new to andriod. It just that Im confused why hyperdrive would have that CPU settings feature if it doesn't work.
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I believe those settings only work for a phone with an unlocked bootloader. Those are settings best left alone unless you know what you're doing.
You can mess with some settings on the stock kernel but you shouldn't, Samsung uses a special hotplugging governor dependent on a lot more factors then your usual custom kernel, so unless you really know kernels inside and out then you'll only hinder your kernel. The app will also show you that you changed settings in the stock kernel that really can't be changed.
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You can mess with some settings on the stock kernel but you shouldn't, Samsung uses a special hotplugging governor dependent on a lot more factors then your usual custom kernel, so unless you really know kernels inside and out then you'll only hinder your kernel. The app will also show you that you changed settings in the stock kernel that really can't be changed.
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It's been my experience that any developer worth his salt is using a kernel as customized for his ROM as he can make it. He might not get it exactly right the first time or two out the door, but he will get it right.
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It's been my experience that any developer worth his salt is using a kernel as customized for his ROM as he can make it. He might not get it exactly right the first time or two out the door, but he will get it right.
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There's a few AOSP developers who build ROMs and kernels but developers usually only work on one disclipine.
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There's a few AOSP developers who build ROMs and kernels but developers usually only work on one disclipine.
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I guess I could have been a bit clearer. The developers I've followed over the years will work with the kernel guys to get one tweaked for their ROM. snuzzo over with Rezounds seemed to be a master chef of kernels.
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I guess I could have been a bit clearer. The developers I've followed over the years will work with the kernel guys to get one tweaked for their ROM. snuzzo over with Rezounds seemed to be a master chef of kernels.
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Got ya, times are different with this phone since only MDK users can even touch their kernel.
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Got ya, times are different with this phone since only MDK users can even touch their kernel.
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Unfortunately, several people seem to think that Safestrap allows them to flash custom kernels.
Well, in one sense, that's true. You can flash a custom kernel on a MK2/MJ7 phone. When the flash completes, you've bricked your phone and set the warranty void flag. But it did flash, right?
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Unfortunately, several people seem to think that Safestrap allows them to flash custom kernels.
Well, in one sense, that's true. You can flash a custom kernel on a MK2/MJ7 phone. When the flash completes, you've bricked your phone and set the warranty void flag. But it did flash, right?
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And then the questions regarding Odin begin lol
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And then the questions regarding Odin begin lol
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gathering basic information would prevent 95% of what we see in bricking.....
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gathering basic information would prevent 95% of what we see in bricking.....
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When I get a new phone.. I hop on XDA and read read read then I download the factory images I WOULD need in case I need Odin to rescue me. Just seems like people don't ever get prepared in case something goes wrong. I suppose though people learn from mistakes... I sure have
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When I get a new phone.. I hop on XDA and read read read then I download the factory images I WOULD need in case I need Odin to rescue me. Just seems like people don't ever get prepared in case something goes wrong. I suppose though people learn from mistakes... I sure have
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I got my phone on Verizon's Edge program. I can get a new phone every six months. I needed to be sure that I could get this thing back to stock before I rooted. I've been reading these threads since I got the phone in September... in fact, I read these threads plus those for the phones I was considering.
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I got my phone on Verizon's Edge program. I can get a new phone every six months. I needed to be sure that I could get this thing back to stock before I rooted. I've been reading these threads since I got the phone in September... in fact, I read these threads plus those for the phones I was considering.
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Good deal! I know there's a lot to look through on here and a lot to learn. Luckily there are stickies made that answer pretty much all those kind of questions. You'll be good.. You can always use Odin and get it back to complete stock.
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Good deal! I know there's a lot to look through on here and a lot to learn. Luckily there are stickies made that answer pretty much all those kind of questions. You'll be good.. You can always use Odin and get it back to complete stock.
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Once I knew that... and they were able to root the Jelly Bean updates... I jumped in and did the deed myself.
Maybe if they were to sticky a "what you need to know, read this first" thread at the very top of each of the forums, it might cut down on the redundant questions.
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Once I knew that... and they were able to root the Jelly Bean updates... I jumped in and did the deed myself.
Maybe if they were to sticky a "what you need to know, read this first" thread at the very top of each of the forums, it might cut down on the redundant questions.
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