So I ordered a SD card so I can end up rooting my phone. I'm just wondering if someone can clarify that after I root and unlock my phone, I'll be able to get 4G data when available on my metro PCS service? Thanks.
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So when I get access to the hidden menu and unlocking the phone, do I have to manually unlock LTE band 4? Im trying to make of it.
czarcas7ic said:
So I ordered a SD card so I can end up rooting my phone. I'm just wondering if someone can clarify that after I root and unlock my phone, I'll be able to get 4G data when available on my metro PCS service? Thanks.
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You don't need to root it or unlock anything, just insert the new SIM and configure the APN. These phones are not SIM-locked.
You could flash the MJ7 radio to unlock LTE band 4, but that doesn't require root either.
As to whether or not you'll get 4G data - or any data at all - that depends upon what bands Metro PCS uses and if there's any in common with those covered by the i545's radio.
k1mu said:
You don't need to root it or unlock anything, just insert the new SIM and configure the APN. These phones are not SIM-locked.
You could flash the MJ7 radio to unlock LTE band 4, but that doesn't require root either.
As to whether or not you'll get 4G data - or any data at all - that depends upon what bands Metro PCS uses and if there's any in common with those covered by the i545's radio.
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Which APN settings? I see all these different ones and I've tried them and combinations of some and they dont give me any data! ITs always saying trouble connection to proxy server when i try to load up internet. Also is there a guide to flashing this MJ7 to unlock the LTE band?
k1mu said:
You don't need to root it or unlock anything, just insert the new SIM and configure the APN. These phones are not SIM-locked.
You could flash the MJ7 radio to unlock LTE band 4, but that doesn't require root either.
As to whether or not you'll get 4G data - or any data at all - that depends upon what bands Metro PCS uses and if there's any in common with those covered by the i545's radio.
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What if I update my software to 4.3? That is supposed to unlock LTE Band 4 right?
Also it looks like my normal data is working now. Its very slow because I have crappy regular coverage however am covered well by 4G, the only problem I see is the band isnt unlocked.
czarcas7ic said:
What if I update my software to 4.3? That is supposed to unlock LTE Band 4 right?
Also it looks like my normal data is working now. Its very slow because I have crappy regular coverage however am covered well by 4G, the only problem I see is the band isnt unlocked.
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Updating to 4.3 will get you LTE band 4. However, it's certainly possible that's not deployed in your area.
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Updating to 4.3 will get you LTE band 4. However, it's certainly possible that's not deployed in your area.
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I mean metropcs states that I have LTE in my area. So thats not for sure the LTE band 4?
czarcas7ic said:
I mean metropcs states that I have LTE in my area. So thats not for sure the LTE band 4?
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Nope, there's several different LTE bands. Band 4 is the latest being rolled out by Verizon, which is why the phone was updated to support it.
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Nope, there's several different LTE bands. Band 4 is the latest being rolled out by Verizon, which is why the phone was updated to support it.
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So basically the only option I have is to download this update. If LTE doesn't work, then im screwed from there?
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Long story short, I rooted using the Exynos Abuse and flashed the SuperNexus I777 ROM and am only getting EDGE.
My friend gave me his ATT Galaxy S2 SGH-1777. I have a local carrier that also uses GSM. So I have a non-ATT SIM card.
When I plugged in the SIM card to this ATT SGS2, only the texting and dialing worked. I didn't get any data. I talked to ATT for an unlock code (which they gave me). It wasn't until after I got the unlock code that I found out the phone was already GSM unlocked.
So I proceeded to root and flash the ROM I listed above. I am only getting EDGE data. Wifi works and as far as I know (with the minimal poking around) everything else does so far.
Am I missing something in terms of toggle switches inside the settings menu to turn on EDGE? Is this carrier specific? I don't see why EDGE would work but 3G wouldn't if I am in the coverage area.
I am doing this for a friend. I am a HTC Thunderbolt user so the SGS2 is new to me. What are these modems people are flashing? Should I flash one of these in hopes of picking up a 3G signal through the Non-ATT carrier?
zilla. said:
Long story short, I rooted using the Exynos Abuse and flashed the SuperNexus I777 ROM and am only getting EDGE.
My friend gave me his ATT Galaxy S2 SGH-1777. I have a local carrier that also uses GSM. So I have a non-ATT SIM card.
When I plugged in the SIM card to this ATT SGS2, only the texting and dialing worked. I didn't get any data. I talked to ATT for an unlock code (which they gave me). It wasn't until after I got the unlock code that I found out the phone was already GSM unlocked.
So I proceeded to root and flash the ROM I listed above. I am only getting EDGE data. Wifi works and as far as I know (with the minimal poking around) everything else does so far.
Am I missing something in terms of toggle switches inside the settings menu to turn on EDGE? Is this carrier specific? I don't see why EDGE would work but 3G wouldn't if I am in the coverage area.
I am doing this for a friend. I am a HTC Thunderbolt user so the SGS2 is new to me. What are these modems people are flashing? Should I flash one of these in hopes of picking up a 3G signal through the Non-ATT carrier?
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What carrier are u on? If u are accessing other towers besides at&t then u will pretty much get edge
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What carrier are u on? If u are accessing other towers besides at&t then u will pretty much get edge
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The carrier is Cincinnati Bell. Is it possible to get the phone to pick up towers specific for Bell or do I need the carrier to do this?
zilla. said:
The carrier is Cincinnati Bell. Is it possible to get the phone to pick up towers specific for Bell or do I need the carrier to do this?
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I'm pretty sure Cincinnati Bell uses T-Mobile towers so all the limitations that T-Mobile had with At&t phones on its network applies here
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Pirateghost said:
I'm pretty sure Cincinnati Bell uses T-Mobile towers so all the limitations that T-Mobile had with At&t phones on its network applies here
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^^This! Confirm what network your carrier is accessing. If it's T-Mobile you're out of luck
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brandonarev said:
^^This! Confirm what network your carrier is accessing. If it's T-Mobile you're out of luck
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If the phone is GSM unlocked, should it be able to access the respective tower of the carrier that is tied to the SIM card?
If not can the radios (?) specifically select towers?
zilla. said:
If the phone is GSM unlocked, should it be able to access the respective tower of the carrier?
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Not if the phone doesn't have the hardware to support those specific bands.
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zilla. said:
If the phone is GSM unlocked, should it be able to access the respective tower of the carrier?
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Yes. Your phone is GSM unlocked; therefore it can access the Cincinnati Bell towers. However, since those are actually T-Mobile towers, you can only use T-Mobile bands. Since T-Mobile and AT&T used different bands for 3G, and the phone's radio is designed to use AT&T's bands, you can only access the 2G bands.
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Yes. Your phone is GSM unlocked; therefore it can access the Cincinnati Bell towers. However, since those are actually T-Mobile towers, you can only use T-Mobile bands. Since T-Mobile and AT&T used different bands for 3G, and the phone's radio is designed to use AT&T's bands, you can only access the 2G bands.
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Thank you for the insight. I will call to confirm.
some of the newer tablets have both bands built in....so then you could use both gsm bands on tmo and att.....like the new note 8....it will have more gsm and lte bands than those in the past
mokokawi said:
some of the newer tablets have both bands built in....so then you could use both gsm bands on tmo and att.....like the new note 8....it will have more gsm and lte bands than those in the past
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thanks for this insightful post that has ZERO to do with the i777.....
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Yes. Your phone is GSM unlocked; therefore it can access the Cincinnati Bell towers. However, since those are actually T-Mobile towers, you can only use T-Mobile bands. Since T-Mobile and AT&T used different bands for 3G, and the phone's radio is designed to use AT&T's bands, you can only access the 2G bands.
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Sorry for bringing this up again, I was looking at the specs of the SGH-I777 (ATT's SGS2) vs SGH-T989 (T-Mobile's SGS2). It looks like both of the phones use the same bands except T-Mobile is capable of one more: WCDMA 2100. Is this the band that T-Mobile transmits it's 3G over? Otherwise they look almost identical.
Attached screenshot of comparison: http://imgur.com/8OQXftD
T-Mobile utilizes AWS (1700 MHz) band. Look better and you'll see that what you marked isn't a difference, 1700 is.
Google "List of UMTS networks".
Jack_R1 said:
T-Mobile utilizes AWS (1700 MHz) band. Look better and you'll see that what you marked isn't a difference, 1700 is.
Google "List of UMTS networks".
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Oh of course. I glanced over that way too fast. Thanks.
Hey everyone,
I just searched this topic and didn't find any definitive answers so I thought I'd ask...
Anyways is the VZW Galaxy S4 SIM unlocked out of the box? I keep reading the new VZW releases in 2012 and onwards are according to the VZW forums and website but then I found a post of someone asking VZW for an unlock. It its an official code its easier to just ask VZW as I meet all the requirements (1+ year customer). Also I read that on the S3 the APN settings are blocked on the default VZW firmware unless rooted. Is the APN settings on the S4 open (changeable) by default?
Also what's a realistic battery life you guys are getting out of this phone?
Am comparing phones and need a phone that is:
1. SIM Unlocked and APN settings changable that has VZW's US CDMA and LTE bands PLUS ALL the international bands (the 4 GSM and 4 UMTS international bands).
2. Has HSPA+21 at least.
3. Long battery life to last the day.
4. Rootable so I can get rid of VZW crap and increase the battery life.
I've also not seen any international VZW phones with HSPA+42 dual carrier like Apple's iPhone 5. I'm also debating getting a Android versus iOS phone...
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Recently took my S4 to Brazil and spent a fair bit of time talking to Verizon Global Support before the trip. One of the questions I asked was whether the phone was SIM unlocked so that I could purchase a SIM card while in Brazil and use local service down there. The VZW rep assured me the phone was indeed unlocked, but I did not use a Brazilian SIM card while on travel so I cannot confirm via personal experience.
I can confirm that it is unlocked. I put an active att sim card in, that then allowed me to add the correct apn info. I was then able to make calls and use data.
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willzzz88 said:
Hey everyone,
I just searched this topic and didn't find any definitive answers so I thought I'd ask...
Anyways is the VZW Galaxy S4 SIM unlocked out of the box? I keep reading the new VZW releases in 2012 and onwards are according to the VZW forums and website but then I found a post of someone asking VZW for an unlock. It its an official code its easier to just ask VZW as I meet all the requirements (1+ year customer). Also I read that on the S3 the APN settings are blocked on the default VZW firmware unless rooted. Is the APN settings on the S4 open (changeable) by default?
Also what's a realistic battery life you guys are getting out of this phone?
Am comparing phones and need a phone that is:
1. SIM Unlocked and APN settings changable that has VZW's US CDMA and LTE bands PLUS ALL the international bands (the 4 GSM and 4 UMTS international bands).
2. Has HSPA+21 at least.
3. Long battery life to last the day.
4. Rootable so I can get rid of VZW crap and increase the battery life.
I've also not seen any international VZW phones with HSPA+42 dual carrier like Apple's iPhone 5. I'm also debating getting a Android versus iOS phone...
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The SCH-I545 has Quad band GSM/EDGE frequency's (850/900/1800/1900) and Quad band UMTS/HSPA (850/900/1900/2100) As well as AWS bands for LTE (1700/2100) so it should get LTE on T-Mobile. However, it does not have the capabilities to get LTE on AT&T since the SCH-I545 does not have the frequency's to operate on AT&T's LTE network but it will get HSPA+ on both networks. It will work on Sprint as well but it will not get LTE since its two LTE bands, (700 and 1700/2100), are not compatible. Sprint operates on the same CDMA/ Ev-Do bands as VZW so you will get 3G. I can confirm that i have used the SCH-I545 with an AT&T SIM card and i got HSPA+ speeds.
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The SCH-I545 has Quad band GSM/EDGE frequency's (850/900/1800/1900) and Quad band UMTS/HSPA (850/900/1900/2100) As well as AWS bands for LTE (1700/2100) so it should get LTE on T-Mobile. However, it does not have the capabilities to get LTE on AT&T since the SCH-I545 does not have the frequency's to operate on AT&T's LTE network but it will get HSPA+ on both networks. It will work on Sprint as well but it will not get LTE since its two LTE bands, (700 and 1700/2100), are not compatible. Sprint operates on the same CDMA/ Ev-Do bands as VZW so you will get 3G. I can confirm that i have used the SCH-I545 with an AT&T SIM card and i got HSPA+ speeds.
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The AWS is there but not activated yet. for now you will only get EDGE on t-mobile unless in a refarmed are you will pickup HSPA. you will however pickup all AWS tis summer when verizon activates that band on our phone.
SOURCE: I'm on the 30$ a month prepaid with t-mobile. edge sucks but it works.
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Silentgray said:
I can confirm that it is unlocked. I put an active att sim card in, that then allowed me to add the correct apn info. I was then able to make calls and use data.
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Hi,
I have had the same outcome, voice and data work, BUT data is only HPSA+ at best. Do you get 4G LTE or found a way to get it?
Thanks!
ddckylec said:
Hi,
I have had the same outcome, voice and data work, BUT data is only HPSA+ at best. Do you get 4G LTE or found a way to get it?
Thanks!
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No, but that is because i am not in an area where ATT has LTE turned on. South Dakota is still on the waiting list. Verizon uses different frequencies for LTE then ATT does.
Verizon has never locked their phones, even the CDMA ones. If you put a non Verizon SIM in you can change the APN settings
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I unlocked some others LTE bands on VS985, I tried other tips from Sony Xperia forum with no success and now just with hiddenmenu it work, for that:
1. Download Shortcut Master (lite) from play store
2. Top right -> App Explorer ->Verizon Hidden Menu
3. go to -> LTEBandSelection tap and select Launch
4. Now choose all Bands and Save and reboot
Need ROOT
That's all
This sounds cool in theory, but I'm skeptical. Not every VZW LTE tower uses every band. Different locations may even require specific bands. I'm not sure of the implementation details but our modems negotiate connections with towers, and this includes which band and channel within the band to use. If you enable all bands all the time, you're making your phone scan more frequencies, which takes more time and therefore increases battery usage.
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This sounds cool in theory, but I'm skeptical. Not every VZW LTE tower uses every band. Different locations may even require specific bands. I'm not sure of the implementation details but our modems negotiate connections with towers, and this includes which band and channel within the band to use. If you enable all bands all the time, you're making your phone scan more frequencies, which takes more time and therefore increases battery usage.
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No, not all bands, only 2 bands, BANDS 3/7 which it's the most used in europe
Do you get signals on these bands? Could just have software support because most of the software is shared between versions, but not have hardware support at all.
scy1192 said:
Do you get signals on these bands? Could just have software support because most of the software is shared between versions, but not have hardware support at all.
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Yes I have 4g now, and in France most used band is 3 (1800mhz) and I get it
Just wanted to say thanks for this
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Either lollipop changed or something else changed. The app crashes on the App Explorer function
Anyone know what stock bands were set at? I forgot to look before I checked them all. vs985 here. Thx
gatorstew said:
Anyone know what stock bands were set at? I forgot to look before I checked them all. vs985 here. Thx
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Band4 and Band13 are default for me. Verizon G3 stock ROM. Roll Tide.
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kroukes2000 said:
I unlocked some others LTE bands on VS985, I tried other tips from Sony Xperia forum with no success and now just with hiddenmenu it work, for that:
1. Download Shortcut Master (lite) from play store
2. Top right -> App Explorer ->Verizon Hidden Menu
3. go to -> LTEBandSelection tap and select Launch
4. Now choose all Bands and Save and reboot
Need ROOT
That's all
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Hello.
without ROOT, impossible to use more LTE band?
I am currently using VS985 in Korea(South) with 3G mode only because of Korean SIM.
Really want to use LTE in here.
Thanks.
yebbijun said:
Hello.
without ROOT, impossible to use more LTE band?
I am currently using VS985 in Korea(South) with 3G mode only because of Korean SIM.
Really want to use LTE in here.
Thanks.
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No for this app you need root. You should just root. Its very easy and will allow you to activate the other bands.
This thread/mod isn't getting much play it seems. Is there really any benefit from this in the US? Or will it drain battery looking for the other bands?
Works good
Thank you so much for sharing :good:
I am using vs985 verizon in pakistan. Service provider is warid. Coustomer service told me that they're offering 4g on band 3, 1800mhz
So i unlocked band 3 by using this method. works like a charm
Thanks again
Good looks on this! I did it for the hell of it. Might as well have all 4 bands selected
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This thread/mod isn't getting much play it seems. Is there really any benefit from this in the US? Or will it drain battery looking for the other bands?
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Very good question...!!
Here is a link to LTE bands by country/region if anyone needs/wants it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It's wikipedia though, so it may not be 100% accurate.
Ok but what bands does this actually unlocked vs those already in us for a specific region...
I ask this b/c in my limited theory, one could unlock said bands and theoretically use the phone on diff bands/carriers without having to go thru the hassle of 'begging' for a carrier unlock, correct? Essentially you could create your own carrier unlocked and/or international compatible G3... But I may be completely ass backwards wrong.... lol
kinfolk248 said:
Ok but what bands does this actually unlocked vs those already in us for a specific region...
I ask this b/c in my limited theory, one could unlock said bands and theoretically use the phone on diff bands/carriers without having to go thru the hassle of 'begging' for a carrier unlock, correct? Essentially you could create your own carrier unlocked and/or international compatible G3... But I may be completely ass backwards wrong.... lol
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3 and 7
kinfolk248 said:
Ok but what bands does this actually unlocked vs those already in us for a specific region...
I ask this b/c in my limited theory, one could unlock said bands and theoretically use the phone on diff bands/carriers without having to go thru the hassle of 'begging' for a carrier unlock, correct? Essentially you could create your own carrier unlocked and/or international compatible G3... But I may be completely ass backwards wrong.... lol
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The vs985 is already carrier unlocked, but I get what you're asking. And I think that, yeah, if you know the bands in the country/region you're in you can unlock those bands to get 4g working there. Post #14 is a good example of that. I believe bands 3 and 7 are used for global lte, which would be why his/her carrier told him to use band 3 for lte in Pakistan.
Hey. Just got a Verizon LG G3 off my friend. I cracked the screen of my s4 and my girlfriend used my upgrade to get the iphone 6 so i couldn't upgrade myself. When i was using my galaxy s4 i had LTE speeds everywhere i go.
I googled the apn settings for At&t and put them into the G3 i have. It is working with HSPA+ But not LTE. I put my same sim card into my mom's at&t galaxy s5 and LTE pops back up. So LTE is clearly working in my area. But the g3 isn't picking it up, Am i doing something wrong? I've done research before i bought the phone and it people said Verizon LG G3 does support the LTE bands At&t uses. So am i doing something wrong???
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Hey. Just got a Verizon LG G3 off my friend. I cracked the screen of my s4 and my girlfriend used my upgrade to get the iphone 6 so i couldn't upgrade myself. When i was using my galaxy s4 i had LTE speeds everywhere i go.
I googled the apn settings for At&t and put them into the G3 i have. It is working with HSPA+ But not LTE. I put my same sim card into my mom's at&t galaxy s5 and LTE pops back up. So LTE is clearly working in my area. But the g3 isn't picking it up, Am i doing something wrong? I've done research before i bought the phone and it people said Verizon LG G3 does support the LTE bands At&t uses. So am i doing something wrong???
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Only supports ONE band that ATT uses. Which is band 4. Which is the backbone of ATT and Tmobiles LTE. So it should be able to connect to it. Do you live in a major city?
daniel4653 said:
Only supports ONE band that ATT uses. Which is band 4. Which is the backbone of ATT and Tmobiles LTE. So it should be able to connect to it. Do you live in a major city?
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Yea i live in Philadelphia. Like i said with my S4 i had LTE everywhere. And i put the same sim card in my mom's galaxy s5 and LTE popped right up in her phone.
Im thinking maybe my settings are wrong??
Phillyrider807 said:
Yea i live in Philadelphia. Like i said with my S4 i had LTE everywhere. And i put the same sim card in my mom's galaxy s5 and LTE popped right up in her phone.
Im thinking maybe my settings are wrong??
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Try toggling between global and gsm/umts/LTE
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Try toggling between global and gsm/umts/LTE
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Tried that too. Still getting hspa+. Downloaded the speedtest app and speed never goes over 1mbps. I pop my sim in my moms phone and gets over 18mbps. I don't get it.,
Hey buddy, have you try to unlock other bands? I'm not sure about band 4 (since I was not looking for band 4) but there are some bands that can be use. You may want to Follow this threat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/unlocked-lte-bands-vs985-t2909150
It worked for me for band 3 and 7, I hope it work for you too
Just asking, the phone is on stock LG Android, right?
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csaborio said:
Hey buddy, have you try to unlock other bands? I'm not sure about band 4 (since I was not looking for band 4) but there are some bands that can be use. You may want to Follow this threat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/unlocked-lte-bands-vs985-t2909150
It worked for me for band 3 and 7, I hope it work for you too
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ATT uses band 4 and 17. Band 4 is the only one supported. From what I have read 3 is more for Europe.
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ATT uses band 4 and 17. Band 4 is the only one supported. From what I have read 3 is more for Europe.
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Yeah I know, but I was trying to explain the reason about why I was not sure if band 4 was available to unlock.
I live in Costa Rica but I bought an Lg G3 Verizon phone from eBay that happens to work in here as well, the band 3 is the one my carrier uses, so I was only interested in unlock that one.
I took an screenshot of the available bands to unlock by following the link I posted.
P.S: sorry if it wasn't clear, English is not my native language ?
I have a Verizon LG G3 on Cricket Wireless (which is owned and operated by AT&T) and I get LTE on mine everywhere I go. The reason is because I have the 10b modem installed. ANY modem after 12b disables LTE on other networks except for Verizon. You need to totally restore your phone to stock (including 10b radio). There is a thread here on XDA somewhere that tells you step by step how to restore your G3 to stock and 10b radio.
Rooting and installing a custom recovery, then installing 10b modem will not work at this point. I tried that. It WOULD NOT let me use 10b radio until I completely returned to stock. Then of course I rooted and installed custom recovery.
I also have to use Cyanogenmod or another AOSP ROM because stock roms have the newer radios and disable my LTE.
Hope this helps!
I have an old M8 lying around that I fired up and had remembered I had rooted it and the bootloader is unlocked.. Is there a way to 'trick' this phone into thinking it's an AT&T branded phone? hboot, etc. and that will allow me to RUU something official from AT&T? I know this sounds really strange and probably stupid but.. I just can't sleep and need something to fill the time.. Can I do it?
Don't think so, radio hardware is different, not to mention the partition layout.
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jbarcus81 said:
Is there a way to 'trick' this phone into thinking it's an AT&T branded phone? hboot, etc. and that will allow me to RUU something official from AT&T? ?
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Absolutely not. At least not any way that is known; and your chance of failure is high (with a brick being the possible or even probable result).
As mentioned in the previous comment, the partitioning on the phones is different. If you try to run the RUU, you at best it will fail, at worst it will brick the device.
Most other M8 versions (that don't support CDMA) can be "converted" from one version to another (other exceptions being dual SIM and M8 Eye). But Verizon and Sprint are the oddballs here. Some experienced devs have been messing around with these variants from the start (to try to convert them) with no success.
Perfect! All I needed to hear! Ah well.. it was worth a shot! Just trying to get my account provisioned for LTE so I can get LTE on my unlocked devices.. I've been told, and read, that if I can get an AT&T branded LTE capable phone to just swap my SIM in it.. and let my account provision, then I'll have LTE on any device AT&T or not... Just trying to avoid a contract..
jbarcus81 said:
I've been told, and read, that if I can get an AT&T branded LTE capable phone to just swap my SIM in it.. and let my account provision, then I'll have LTE on any device AT&T or not... Just trying to avoid a contract..
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As long as the phone is SIM unlocked (Verizon version is) then you should just be able to put an AT&T SIM in, and enter the proper AT&T APN for service, as long as the phone supports the proper bands. Its irrelevant whether the phone is AT&T branded or not.
Now the underlined bit in the paragraph above is the main issue. The Verizon M8 only supports one of the four bands (Bands 2, 5, 4, and 17) used by AT&T for LTE (Verizon M8 supports Bands 3, 4, 7, and 13). So depending on what band is used in your area, you may or may not get LTE.
But GSM (2G) and HSPA (3G) should work just fine on AT&T.
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As long as the phone is SIM unlocked (Verizon version is) then you should just be able to put an AT&T SIM in, and enter the proper AT&T APN for service, as long as the phone supports the proper bands. Its irrelevant whether the phone is AT&T branded or not.
Now the underlined bit in the paragraph above is the main issue. The Verizon M8 only supports one of the four bands (Bands 2, 5, 4, and 17) used by AT&T for LTE (Verizon M8 supports Bands 3, 4, 7, and 13). So depending on what band is used in your area, you may or may not get LTE.
But GSM (2G) and HSPA (3G) should work just fine on AT&T.
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That's the odd part.. My main phone is the S6 Edge from Verizon.. it's on the AT&T network and I assume my APN is correct.. But it's not picking up LTE and I am almost certain the S6 Edge from Verizon will pick up the correct band for AT&T LTE .. But it's only using the H+ speed.. What's even more strange?? When I throw my SIM into the M8? I get LTE on AT&T and verify with 30+mpbs speeds.. I have no idea what's going on...
jbarcus81 said:
That's the odd part.. My main phone is the S6 Edge from Verizon.. it's on the AT&T network and I assume my APN is correct.. But it's not picking up LTE and I am almost certain the S6 Edge from Verizon will pick up the correct band for AT&T LTE .. But it's only using the H+ speed.. What's even more strange?? When I throw my SIM into the M8? I get LTE on AT&T and verify with 30+mpbs speeds.. I have no idea what's going on...
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Yeah, that is strange. According to the specs for the S6 Edge here, the Verizon version supports the same LTE bands as the VZN M8, and actually some additional bands (2 and 5) that also happen to be bands used by AT&T.
One thing I can think of, is that the VZN M8 in actuality supports some bands that are not advertised/explicit in the specs. It wouldn't be unheard of, as members here have reported some versions of the non-CDMA M8 as supporting some bands not indicated in the specs. And that band happens to be what AT&T is using in your market region. In this case, that band would seem to be Band 17 (the only band that AT&T is known to use, that isn't listed on the S6 Edge specs).
Or the other possibility, is there is just some issue with the S6 that is preventing connection to LTE (but on the same supported band that the M8 has).
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Yeah, that is strange. According to the specs for the S6 Edge here, the Verizon version supports the same LTE bands as the VZN M8, and actually some additional bands (2 and 5) that also happen to be bands used by AT&T.
One thing I can think of, is that the VZN M8 in actuality supports some bands that are not advertised/explicit in the specs. It wouldn't be unheard of, as members here have reported some versions of the non-CDMA M8 as supporting some bands not indicated in the specs. And that band happens to be what AT&T is using in your market region. In this case, that band would seem to be Band 17 (the only band that AT&T is known to use, that isn't listed on the S6 Edge specs).
Or the other possibility, is there is just some issue with the S6 that is preventing connection to LTE (but on the same supported band that the M8 has).
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Yeah.. I'm not worried about it.. I've been told that all I need is an AT&T branded LTE capable device hooked up to the account and that my account hasn't been provisioned for LTE .. I've seen this in a few places so it's worth a shot.. I ordered a junk LTE phone branded AT&T to test it out.. ordered a OnePlus 2 and will likely unload the S6 Edge (if it never picks up the LTE from AT&T)
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I've been told that all I need is an AT&T branded LTE capable device hooked up to the account and that my account hasn't been provisioned for LTE ..)
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As I've already mentioned, its not really necessary to have an AT&T branded device. I suspect the reason you've seen people say this, is that AT&T branding means by definition the phone has all the bands used by AT&T for LTE; since obviously the phone is intended for use on AT&T's network. Since AT&T uses a number of bands (4) and LTE bands being used worldwide has become very un-standardized, its somewhat difficult to find a non-AT&T phone that has all the bands. But they do exist, such as the US unlocked M8, Dev Edition M8, and Nexus devices. Also, I've seen folks used other non-ATT branded phones, which may not have all 4 LTE bands used by AT&T, but the one(s) needed in the particular user's region. Not ideal, but sufficient for some folks.
Another reason why some may say the phone needs to be AT&T branded, is that AT&T tech support won't provide you any support if you have a non-ATT phone. But honestly, I've used non-branded devices (and plenty of folks here have), and this is very rarely an issue. The folks here on XDA will usually provide you better support, anyway!
Of course, your ATT account needs to be provisioned for LTE in order to have that service. Its a simple matter, and doesn't cost anything (just need a smartphone data plan).
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As I've already mentioned, its not really necessary to have an AT&T branded device. I suspect the reason you've seen people say this, is that AT&T branding means by definition the phone has all the bands used by AT&T for LTE; since obviously the phone is intended for use on AT&T's network. Since AT&T uses a number of bands (4) and LTE bands being used worldwide has become very un-standardized, its somewhat difficult to find a non-AT&T phone that has all the bands. But they do exist, such as the US unlocked M8, Dev Edition M8, and Nexus devices. Also, I've seen folks used other non-ATT branded phones, which may not have all 4 LTE bands used by AT&T, but the one(s) needed in the particular user's region. Not ideal, but sufficient for some folks.
Another reason why some may say the phone needs to be AT&T branded, is that AT&T tech support won't provide you any support if you have a non-ATT phone. But honestly, I've used non-branded devices (and plenty of folks here have), and this is very rarely an issue. The folks here on XDA will usually provide you better support, anyway!
Of course, your ATT account needs to be provisioned for LTE in order to have that service. Its a simple matter, and doesn't cost anything (just need a smartphone data plan).
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I've dug deeper and have to not only have an AT&T branded phone, I have to register the IEMI on my account, then swap the SIM card back into the other phone. I've got the phone but can't find a way to do this online so I'll have to call tomorrow...
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I have a m8 whl sprint abd does not use CDMA only gsm network. I can I change the mid and convert the phone to get latest ota for dev edition version? I thanks
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I have a m8 whl sprint abd does not use CDMA only gsm network. I can I change the mid and convert the phone to get latest ota for dev edition version? I thanks
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Absolutely NO.
What I mentioned above (Post #3) for the Verizon variant, also applies to Sprint (both versions support CDMA - the fact you don't use it is irrelevant). If you try to convert to another version won't work, and will probably result in a brick.
Also, even if you didn't have a CDMA version M8, you typically can't convert using an OTA, it has to be an RUU.
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Absolutely NO.
What I mentioned above (Post #3) for the Verizon variant, also applies to Sprint (both versions support CDMA - the fact you don't use it is irrelevant). If you try to convert to another version won't work, and will probably result in a brick.
Also, even if you didn't have a CDMA version M8, you typically can't convert using an OTA, it has to be an RUU.
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@redpoint ; don't we have any chance to install different provider radios to Verizon Htc devices..?
because verizon devices you know that support 3, 4, 7, and 13 bands,but i want to enable band 20 for europe LTE..
pls help us to enable other bands =( because only u can do that as a genius =)
thanx a lot
cincon said:
@redpoint ; don't we have any chance to install different provider radios to Verizon Htc devices..?
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Absolutely NOT. As already thoroughly discussed on this thread, if you attempt to install another version's radio on the Verizon version, it won't work, and you may radio brick the phone (permanent damage possible).
Different radios, different partition layout.
Don't even try it. Experienced devs have tried to "convert" by various methods and mods, and failed.
But there may be other ways (besides flashing another version's radio) to enable the band(s) you want, read on:
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because verizon devices you know that support 3, 4, 7, and 13 bands,but i want to enable band 20 for europe LTE..
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You can take a look at the following method, as it claims to enable Band 20: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/general/lte-band-7-2600mhz-finally-guide-t2992523
Read the thread, and proceed at your own discretion. I'm not knowledgeable with changing NV values (it doesn't work on "GSM" M8 variants, so does not apply to me). I simply know this thread exists.
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pls help us to enable other bands =( because only u can do that as a genius =)
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Far from a genius, and I don't create any of these mods. I just contribute by passing on knowledge I've gained here. Really, that is part of what XDA is all about.