Sorry for the confusing thread title but couldn't figure out how to word it. The issue I'm having is this , I have a normal sense HTC one from T-Mobile that I converted to a official gpe using a ruu and guide found here. From what I've read only the official gpe HTC one on T-Mobile suffers from the lack of being able to receive hspa+ where LTE is lacking, the normal version does not suffer this problem. I know this to be true as prior to converting mine I was always on LTE with great data speeds. However after converting to gpe in certain areas my phone loses LTE and goes to hspa for a brief second and then to 3g or even edge. Now from what I've read the normal HTC one model has the proper radio which prevents this while the official gpe does not. However seeing as the guide I followed he gave me a official gpe with stock recovery and boot loader I'm inclined to believe that this is just a software issue or that since mine is running the official software yet has the right radio to receive hspa+ it can no longer utilize it. As u can probably tell I'm new to all this. If someone can clarify this it would be great and if there is a way to restore hspa+ functionality while keeping gpe stock software on my device that would be great. The gpe is just what I've been after but I hate to suffer data speed loss in certain areas. Any help would be great guys.
i havent updated my htc one to gpe because of this same reason, ive been trying to find out if theres a way around but im a little confused, because normaly this hapens whens the phone doesnt support that type of band, i had a note1 that i flashed a tmob modem and worked 4g, i hope something like that can be made so i ca use gpe with my one :fingers-crossed:
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Sorry for the confusing thread title but couldn't figure out how to word it. The issue I'm having is this , I have a normal sense HTC one from T-Mobile that I converted to a official gpe using a ruu and guide found here. From what I've read only the official gpe HTC one on T-Mobile suffers from the lack of being able to receive hspa+ where LTE is lacking, the normal version does not suffer this problem. I know this to be true as prior to converting mine I was always on LTE with great data speeds. However after converting to gpe in certain areas my phone loses LTE and goes to hspa for a brief second and then to 3g or even edge. Now from what I've read the normal HTC one model has the proper radio which prevents this while the official gpe does not. However seeing as the guide I followed he gave me a official gpe with stock recovery and boot loader I'm inclined to believe that this is just a software issue or that since mine is running the official software yet has the right radio to receive hspa+ it can no longer utilize it. As u can probably tell I'm new to all this. If someone can clarify this it would be great and if there is a way to restore hspa+ functionality while keeping gpe stock software on my device that would be great. The gpe is just what I've been after but I hate to suffer data speed loss in certain areas. Any help would be great guys.
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Just out of curiosity, the Google edition is not designed to support HSPA+; why do you expect it to do so? I would not expect the software to be designed to work with AWS, even though the radio and radio firmware support it. The GE was designed to work with ATT hardware, and that version of software is not expecting AWS hardware to be installed.
EDIT: You know, I personally think it is stupid for HTC to have two versions of hardware for US operations on GSM. They should have put the same AWS capabilities into both ATT and TMO versions (and GE as well).
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Just out of curiosity, the Google edition is not designed to support HSPA+; why do you expect it to do so? I would not expect the software to be designed to work with AWS, even though the radio and radio firmware support it. The GE was designed to work with ATT hardware, and that version of software is not expecting AWS hardware to be installed.
EDIT: You know, I personally think it is stupid for HTC to have two versions of hardware for US operations on GSM. They should have put the same AWS capabilities into both ATT and TMO versions (and GE as well).
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Thats the thing, I dont expect it to. i didnt know this until after i switched over but seeing as the hardware is there im assuming there has to be a way to flash a radio that will allow me to keep the google software and utilize the hardware i have. since im new to this i have no idea where to begin looking for radios.
EDIT: After reading a little more here on the forum I see there are people with Tmobile Htc Ones that have switched to GPE software and are saying they get HSPA+ all the time. Im still confused though because like i said when i was on stock sense software I ALWAYS had LTE. And ever since the switch im either on LTE or I drop to HSPA+ for like two seconds and then stay on 3g. Either my LTE reception is no longer as good as it was on stock sense, or the stock sense was never telling me when i went to a lesser connection. Considering flashing a radio but dont now where to start.
This thread has officially confused me. What exactly is the problem?
I have TMO HTC ONE on GE software and it seems to work on all bands as far as I know perfectly fine? What is the issue we are talking about here?
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This thread has officially confused me. What exactly is the problem?
I have TMO HTC ONE on GE software and it seems to work on all bands as far as I know perfectly fine? What is the issue we are talking about here?
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The issue is that apparantly the tmobile GPE One which you can buy doesnt support HSPA+. I had the stock tmobile one which i converted to GPE and before the swtich I always had lte. Ever since i put GPE on my phone im either on LTE or it drops right to 3g. This led me to believe that even though my htc one doesnt suffer the physical limitation that the bought GPE One has, that of not having acces to HSPA+ bands, that maybe the software of the GPE was limiting mine to HSPA+ as well.
However now im reading that people that have flashed their phones to GPE are accessing HSPA+.
Can i ask you this. When you put GPE on your One, what version did you put on? Did you got to 4.2.2 and update to 4.3? or did you go right to 4.3? and would that make any difference?
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The issue is that apparantly the tmobile GPE One which you can buy doesnt support HSPA+. I had the stock tmobile one which i converted to GPE and before the swtich I always had lte. Ever since i put GPE on my phone im either on LTE or it drops right to 3g. This led me to believe that even though my htc one doesnt suffer the physical limitation that the bought GPE One has, that of not having acces to HSPA+ bands, that maybe the software of the GPE was limiting mine to HSPA+ as well.
However now im reading that people that have flashed their phones to GPE are accessing HSPA+.
Can i ask you this. When you put GPE on your One, what version did you put on? Did you got to 4.2.2 and update to 4.3? or did you go right to 4.3? and would that make any difference?
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I update about every day for past 4 months. Never wiped clean.
Are you aware that if the device sees a weak, it drops down to 3G/HSPA+ mode. HSPA uses more power then 3G. So when the phone is idle and not pushing mass amounts of data, it sits on 3G. When you push data for a number of seconds, its switches up to HSPA+ then idles back at 3G to use less power...could this be what you are referring to?
On Stock Sense, you will not see this as they hide it in the back ground...where as on GE they tell you the truth
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I update about every day for past 4 months. Never wiped clean.
Are you aware that if the device sees a weak, it drops down to 3G/HSPA+ mode. HSPA uses more power then 3G. So when the phone is idle and not pushing mass amounts of data, it sits on 3G. When you push data for a number of seconds, its switches up to HSPA+ then idles back at 3G to use less power...could this be what you are referring to?
On Stock Sense, you will not see this as they hide it in the back ground...where as on GE they tell you the truth
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Yes maybe that is what was happening because i was never really trying to access the internet, I was just keeping an eye on my phone to see what network it was on.
And I had a feeling that the sense version was just hiding that from me..
Thanks for the help, you pretty much clarified what i needed to know. Now if I can just find out what I have to do in order to receive OTA updates I will be good to go..
Just to add my own 2 cents: I fully converted my TMob HTC One to GPe 4.2.2 last wording just to make sure I could OTA when 4.4 hit.
It updated to 4.3 via OTA just fine and has been on LTE all morning. HSPA+ also seems to work fine when I'm outside the LTE area.
Not sure if that helps at all, but you definitely should be getting LTE and hspa+ if you did a full conversion from a TMob handset.
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Just to add my own 2 cents: I fully converted my TMob HTC One to GPe 4.2.2 last wording just to make sure I could OTA when 4.4 hit.
It updated to 4.3 via OTA just fine and has been on LTE all morning. HSPA+ also seems to work fine when I'm outside the LTE area.
Not sure if that helps at all, but you definitely should be getting LTE and hspa+ if you did a full conversion from a TMob handset.
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I realized as previous poster said that it displays 3g when idle. However my signal seems weaker now since converting in areas I had three bars of LTE before switch I get one or two of HEPA+. Have u noticed any reception loss.
Also did u get out with stock mid as I only changed Cid to googlOOO
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I realized as previous poster said that it displays 3g when idle. However my signal seems weaker now since converting in areas I had three bars of LTE before switch I get one or two of HEPA+. Have u noticed any reception loss.
Also did u get out with stock mid as I only changed Cid to googlOOO
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I did the full conversion - swapped bootloaders, wrote cid/mod (CID to GOOGL000 and MID to PN0710000), and then flashed the GPe RUU for 4.2.2 in fastboot RUU mode.
(I've actually used similar methods for converting this device to dev and international editions as well in the past using only different CID/MID combinations in order to get OTAs).
All conversions have resulted in HSPA+ and LTE connectivity. I've never really been concerned about speeds as they've always been "good enough" for me, but the few speed-tests I've run have always been at least 15mbit or higher (38mbit being the highest I've seen to date).
At some point I'll post the process and CID/MID combinations that have gotten me success on my T-Mobile One. It requires a modified hboot that can be scary at points (no screen, have to hold the power button for *ages* to get it into RUU mode, etc), but gets the job done.
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I did the full conversion - swapped bootloaders, wrote cid/mod (CID to GOOGL000 and MID to PN0710000), and then flashed the GPe RUU for 4.2.2 in fastboot RUU mode.
(I've actually used similar methods for converting this device to dev and international editions as well in the past using only different CID/MID combinations in order to get OTAs).
All conversions have resulted in HSPA+ and LTE connectivity. I've never really been concerned about speeds as they've always been "good enough" for me, but the few speed-tests I've run have always been at least 15mbit or higher (38mbit being the highest I've seen to date).
At some point I'll post the process and CID/MID combinations that have gotten me success on my T-Mobile One. It requires a modified hboot that can be scary at points (no screen, have to hold the power button for *ages* to get it into RUU mode, etc), but gets the job done.
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I'm fully converted to 4.3 gpe like I said I've only changed Cid to that of gpe. I was worried about not receiving it's updates but have read posts which confirm u can get then without changing mid. I was just wondering I'd after u received ota if your data speeds were better. Its hard to tell because while on stock sense I always displayed LTE as it apparently doesn't let you know when u switch networks. Noe on gpe I'm only getting hspa+ or 3g in areas which according to T-Mobile coverage maps I should get LTE I'm wondering I'd thid was always the case and I just didn't know. My speeds are sufficient for web browsing and YouTube everywhere I'm just the type that wants to know what is happening andbifbi can make it better I will do so. I've reqd of people getting better LTE after converting and then receiving 4.3 ota. This just doesn't seem to be my experience but their so many variables that its hard to say. Thanks for input though
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I'm only getting hspa+ or 3g in areas which according to T-Mobile coverage maps I should get LTE I'm wondering I'd thid was always the case and I just didn't know.
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I'm pretty sure T-Mobile doesn't show LTE coverage on their maps (there's a lot of gaps so this is for PR reasons). "4G" is either HSPA+ or LTE coverage on T-Mobile's maps, but they do not distinguish. The stock ROM (sense) will display "4G" for HSPA+ coverage, while the GPE ROM doesn't. It's still the same coverage. I think this is what's happening to you.
To clear up some confusion, all HTC One versions support HSPA+. It's a question of which frequencies they support it on. The GPe and Dev edition do not support Band 4 HSPA+ (AKA 1700 Mhz, or AWS). T-Mobile uses AWS HSPA+ on a majority of their "4G" footprint. Only areas that are getting LTE have Band II (1900 Mhz) HSPA+. This is done in order to free up AWS spectrum for LTE. Even within reframed areas, such as southern CA, AWS HSPA+ coverage is better (as not all towers have been, or it seems will be upgraded to LTE and reframed Band II HSPA+). Therefore the GPe will have significantly worse data coverage.
It's possible that the GPe conversion will disable Band 4 HSPA+ coverage on the T-Mobile variant. This is what the discussion should be about. If you're connected to an LTE tower, nothing should change. The GPe edition supports band 4 LTE, which is what T-Mobile uses anyway It's likely that you didn't have LTE before in these locations, and all that's changed is the display icon. Hope this helps.
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It's possible that the GPe conversion will disable Band 4 HSPA+ coverage on the T-Mobile variant. This is what the discussion should be about.
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I'm a clueless n00b, but my suspicion given all I've read about AWS and the M7 is that a GPE RUU won't disable the band, but the GPE baseband may not be optimized or may otherwise be unable to take advantage of that extra band that's not present in PN07120. If that's the case, I would imagine that flashing a T-Mobile radio onto a PN07130 [T-Mobile] One converted into a GPE would solve the problem and give you coverage identical to a bone stock PN07130.
The main reason I think this is that no one has had any success enabling AWS on the ATT/GPE/Dev variants by flashing T-Mobile radios or RUUs. I doubt you can 'disable' the band at anything lower than a superficial level, and even then I'm betting it's not 'disabling' as much as it is the GPE baseband not being programmed with AWS HSPA in mind.
I'll be in a position to find this out soon, as I'm probably going to sell my AT&T One and get a T-Mobile variant. I have a pretty decent idea of what kind of [crappy] coverage you get on a device lacking AWS (and I'm in a refarmed area).
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Is the ability to use 4g LYE in the software or hardware of the phone? I have an LTE sim card that came with my htc vivid, but as I understand (which isn't much), I will have to wait for an update or custom ROM that includes an LTE radio. I've also read that LTE phones have different modules in which case I would never get to use it on my i777. This phone is great and there's no way I'm trading it in for a Skyrocket just for LTE when everything else it's so much better on the i777.
Can any one tell me then, will I ever get to use LTE?
Hardware, google is your friend sir
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Just to add to the above answer
LTE and our Exynos chipset dont get along right now, hence all the LTE phones having snapdragon processors. Thats the main kicker for me. and LTE is in very few places is ****ing stupid that at&t is starting to focus even the smallest amount on LTE devices
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Is the ability to use 4g LYE in the software or hardware of the phone? I have an LTE sim card that came with my htc vivid, but as I understand (which isn't much), I will have to wait for an update or custom ROM that includes an LTE radio. I've also read that LTE phones have different modules in which case I would never get to use it on my i777. This phone is great and there's no way I'm trading it in for a Skyrocket just for LTE when everything else it's so much better on the i777.
Can any one tell me then, will I ever get to use LTE?
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Seriously?
Thanks, this is just the answer I was looking for, I do live in an LTE coverage area bad for me though
MotoMudder77 said:
Just to add to the above answer
LTE and our Exynos chipset dont get along right now, hence all the LTE phones having snapdragon processors. Thats the main kicker for me. and LTE is in very few places is ****ing stupid that at&t is starting to focus even the smallest amount on LTE devices
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I live in an area that should have great coverage but I still only get an average of 6Mbps, would updating my APN settings from the old wap.cingular help improve my data service?
johneanonymous said:
Is the ability to use 4g LYE in the software or hardware of the phone? I have an LTE sim card that came with my htc vivid, but as I understand (which isn't much), I will have to wait for an update or custom ROM that includes an LTE radio. I've also read that LTE phones have different modules in which case I would never get to use it on my i777. This phone is great and there's no way I'm trading it in for a Skyrocket just for LTE when everything else it's so much better on the i777.
Can any one tell me then, will I ever get to use LTE?
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Seriously?
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Oh here we go
Unstoppable force meets unmovable object!
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There are a few topics on this question, but they are several months old now. I wanted to get an update on if anything has changed or if workarounds have been found or what not.
First, does anyone know if there are newer "versions" of the phone itself that might have fixed some issues afew topics have gone over? (light bleed, non working soft buttons, high heat ect..) and how to tell which one is the new version?
2nd How can you tell which Amaze will work and which one will not? I found this one.. Amaze on Amazon but the pic shows it with a T-mobile branding, which ive read doesn't work with 3/4g on AT&T.
So were (online) could you pick up one that would work with it, and how difficult is it to get it to work with it?
My current phone (the TP2) was just a matter of popping in the at&t card and going. Looks like the price has come down at least alittle bit, but im curious if it would be worth the effort to get the amaze and try to shimmy it on to AT&T, or wait for a newer phone.
[edit] On a side note, what is happening with the Amaze? Im noticing while the Sensation is still listed, HTC's site doesnt appear to show the Amaze at all, like it never existed.. are they trying to phase it out of existence?
The amaze, after being sim unlocked, does support at&t 3g/4G bands. It will have no problems running on at&t. I don't think that there have been any hardware revisions. So the flash bleed is just luck of the draw. My original didn't have it. My replacement does..
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The Amaze works just fine on AT&T's high-speed 3/4g UMTS/HSPDA+ data bands. It will not work on AT&T's newer LTE services -- which aren't necessarily any faster in real life than their non-LTE service, and AT&T's LTE network is still being built.
At some point AT&T may shut down the UMTS/HSPDA+ service but they've got an awful lot of phones in the field already using it.
Regarding word that the Amaze will be discontinued, the very fact that this phone launched during while the AT&T/T-mo merger was "coming" seems likely to have driven the decision to make it so it supported both AT&T & T-mo bands. Now that the merger is off, I wonder if T-Mo doesn't want a phone that might have the ability to roam onto AT&T's high-speed network. I don't know if it can roam this way, but I love the fact that this phone that can work really well, high-speed data and voice, with my choice of service by 2 U.S. carriers.
I got a used one on the forum. It's the T-mobile branded one works flawlessly with AT&T HSDPA after unlock. Speed test shows consistant 2.6-3.2 mbps download here in NYC area. Signal is strong and sound quality is great, best of all the phones I've had. (DHD sound quality being the 2nd best)
Unfortunately, the one I got had light bleed but it will only stand out if you are viewing something with dark background which is a rare case during my personal usage. Not sure if future kernel release can make the touch pad light dimmer or disable it completely.
Best phone I've used so far.
silvscorp said:
I got a used one on the forum. It's the T-mobile branded one works flawlessly with AT&T HSDPA after unlock. Speed test shows consistant 2.6-3.2 mbps download here in NYC area. Signal is strong and sound quality is great, best of all the phones I've had. (DHD sound quality being the 2nd best)
Unfortunately, the one I got had light bleed but it will only stand out if you are viewing something with dark background which is a rare case during my personal usage. Not sure if future kernel release can make the touch pad light dimmer or disable it completely.
Best phone I've used so far.
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Congrats on the Amaze, as for the light bleed, the only way to fix it is to disable the light source. This can be done on rooted phones, a little searching will point you in the right direction if that is a solution. Otherwise there is little that can be don to dim the lights, kind of an all or nothing situation.
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Congrats on the Amaze, as for the light bleed, the only way to fix it is to disable the light source. This can be done on rooted phones, a little searching will point you in the right direction if that is a solution. Otherwise there is little that can be don to dim the lights, kind of an all or nothing situation.
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Thanks for the tip. I do remember reading something about that that some where but never bothered me as much since I don't find myself staring at a black screen as much.
Another reason I got this phone besides its solid build is the worldwide 3g support. I get to travel to asia once a while and it can utilize the WCDMA used in many asia countries.
Thanks guys. Now im just curious if they still sell "un-branded" phones. As the one i linked appears to be T-mobile branded. Id work i guess, but you know
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Thanks guys. Now im just curious if they still sell "un-branded" phones. As the one i linked appears to be T-mobile branded. Id work i guess, but you know
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Someone correct me if wrong, I think Canada carrier (Telus, Wind) do have unbranded Amaze. Without getting too technical, the telus one have the same 3g band as At&t and wind one has the same 3g band as T-mobile. Only the T-mobile branded ones can work with both.
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Someone correct me if wrong, I think Canada carrier (Telus, Wind) do have unbranded Amaze. Without getting too technical, the telus one have the same 3g band as At&t and wind one has the same 3g band as T-mobile. Only the T-mobile branded ones can work with both.
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Kinda wrong.
All of the Amazes are Quad-band phones, but are sim-locked (carrier locked). If you unlock it, it can be used on either network.
If you don't unlock it, then only on the original network.
Raydonn said:
Kinda wrong.
All of the Amazes are Quad-band phones, but are sim-locked (carrier locked). If you unlock it, it can be used on either network.
If you don't unlock it, then only on the original network.
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what I was referring to was only the 3g connectivity.
Well, i dont have a 4g sim atm, but i did see if unlocked that its suppose to work with 4g?
Anyway that just leaves finding a trusted source to purchase it from.
I am currently using it with AT&T here, 4g symbol showing. While I am not sure what's the standard used to measure the 4g speed but I feel it's much faster than my other sensation 4g phone.
Both phone are connected to the hsdpa network and speedtest consistently showing higher download speed than my sensation.
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I am currently using it with AT&T here, 4g symbol showing. While I am not sure what's the standard used to measure the 4g speed but I feel it's much faster than my other sensation 4g phone.
Both phone are connected to the hsdpa network and speedtest consistently showing higher download speed than my sensation.
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You using the T-mobile Amaze unlocked with AT&T? Did you buy it unlocked or get it from the carrier and unlock it yourself?
Course im also pondering if its worth it to wait for a quad core phone that is supposedly coming this year? Who knows.
got it on the forum, locked but the seller was kind enough to give me the unlock code. Everything is running fine. This is definitely the best phone used so far
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got it on the forum, locked but the seller was kind enough to give me the unlock code. Everything is running fine. This is definitely the best phone used so far
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Ah. How would you compare it to your sensation? is there much of a difference between the two?
So, I have me a Exhilarate that I have unlocked and now use with T-Mobile.
So far, the experience is okay, but I want to make it better.
Thanks to T-Mobile's spectrum refarming efforts, I now have some spotty HSPA+ coverage in most parts of Tampa. Regardless of Samsung's specs page, this device does not support AWS, at least out of the box, so calls drop while travelling unless I force GSM only.
So, given that this device is AT&T's version of the Galaxy S Blaze 4G, here is what I ask:
1. A dump of the radio.img from a Blaze 4G. The device hardware may yet support AWS, but forcing WCDMA 1700 in the ServiceMode menus does nothing at all. The probable loss of LTE support flashing that radio is meaningless for now. Just let me know how it can potentially go wrong beforehand, and what partition to flash/backup.
2. The Wi-Fi calling related files from the ICS. update. Worst case, I have to restore from a nandroid. Not a problem for me. I believe it is an apk and the framework-res.jar, but I could be forgetting a file or two.
By the way, MetroPCS's LTE network shows up in manual network searches as 311660. Forcing LTE B4 in field testing causes the Exhilarate to camp on MetroPCS without service. Screenshots to come of that. Edit: screenshots attached.
Thanks in advance.
segin said:
So, I have me a Exhilarate that I have unlocked and now use with T-Mobile.
So far, the experience is okay, but I want to make it better.
Thanks to T-Mobile's spectrum refarming efforts, I now have some spotty HSPA+ coverage in most parts of Tampa. Regardless of Samsung's specs page, this device does not support AWS, at least out of the box, so calls drop while travelling unless I force GSM only.
So, given that this device is AT&T's version of the Galaxy S Blaze 4G, here is what I ask:
1. A dump of the radio.img from a Blaze 4G. The device hardware may yet support AWS, but forcing WCDMA 1700 in the ServiceMode menus does nothing at all. The probable loss of LTE support flashing that radio is meaningless for now. Just let me know how it can potentially go wrong beforehand, and what partition to flash/backup.
2. The Wi-Fi calling related files from the ICS. update. Worst case, I have to restore from a nandroid. Not a problem for me. I believe it is an apk and the framework-res.jar, but I could be forgetting a file or two.
By the way, MetroPCS's LTE network shows up in manual network searches as 311660. Forcing LTE B4 in field testing causes the Exhilarate to camp on MetroPCS without service. Screenshots to come of that. Edit: screenshots attached.
Thanks in advance.
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Bump, is there a radio flash available for this phone?
Okay I flashed the UVLH5 Radio Blaze ICS and now am getting 4g speeds so it works and is simple to do. I am on stock ICS on the exhilarate rooted
segin said:
So, I have me a Exhilarate that I have unlocked and now use with T-Mobile.
So far, the experience is okay, but I want to make it better.
Thanks to T-Mobile's spectrum refarming efforts, I now have some spotty HSPA+ coverage in most parts of Tampa. Regardless of Samsung's specs page, this device does not support AWS, at least out of the box, so calls drop while travelling unless I force GSM only
So, given that this device is AT&T's version of the Galaxy S Blaze 4G, here is what I ask:
1. A dump of the radio.img from a Blaze 4G. The device hardware may yet support AWS, but forcing WCDMA 1700 in the ServiceMode menus does nothing at all. The probable loss of LTE support flashing that radio is meaningless for now. Just let me know how it can potentially go wrong beforehand, and what partition to flash/backup.
2. The Wi-Fi calling related files from the ICS. update. Worst case, I have to restore from a nandroid. Not a problem for me. I believe it is an apk and the framework-res.jar, but I could be forgetting a file or two.
By the way, MetroPCS's LTE network shows up in manual network searches as 311660. Forcing LTE B4 in field testing causes the Exhilarate to camp on MetroPCS without service. Screenshots to come of that. Edit: screenshots attached.
Thanks in advance.
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all you need to do is download the file, save it to your micro sd, boot into cwm, and install it
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Okay I flashed the UVLH5 Radio Blaze ICS and now am getting 4g speeds so it works and is simple to do. I am on stock ICS on the exhilarate rooted
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Hey yall I just wanted to start a discussion thread for T-Mobile like me who are braving T-Mobile's refarmed network and using the HTC One X+ (International or unlocked AT&T variant). Maybe we can get a few tips and tricks together to make our user experience a bit better.
For example, such radios yall are using, any build.prop edits that might help data speeds or GPS locking speed (if you are using the international version like I am).
Ill update the OP with the list of suggestions, maybe an FAQ.
I've been using the Phone Info app to turn off the LTE radio, although I'm not entirely sure that is does. I use the GSM auto mode which is the default on 3G non LTE phones. The default on the One X+ is GSM/WCDMA/LTE
Is anyone experiencing weak or wavering 3G signal (over PCS) as discussed toward the end of this thread (scroll down about halfway on page three)?
http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=18318.40
The very knowledgeable posters there say that T-Mobile is using less power on PCS (WCDMA), as compared to AWS, right now. And probably won't turn it up until they start shifting AWS to LTE.
cb474 said:
Is anyone experiencing weak or wavering 3G signal (over PCS) as discussed toward the end of this thread (scroll down about halfway on page three)?
http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=18318.40
The very knowledgeable posters there say that T-Mobile is using less power on PCS (WCDMA), as compared to AWS, right now. And probably won't turn it up until they start shifting AWS to LTE.
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Definitely especially indoors. I get full bars of PCS where available, but indoors I'm switching between 3G/"4G" and Edge.
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Definitely especially indoors. I get full bars of PCS where available, but indoors I'm switching between 3G/"4G" and Edge.
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Do you have a phone with AWS 3G to compare in the same location and see if it has better 3G reception?
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Do you have a phone with AWS 3G to compare in the same location and see if it has better 3G reception?
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Yep, my Nexus 4 gets constant HSPA+ where I get spotty PCS
I have a question for you guys that are using the HOX+ on T-mobile.
What type of sim card are you using?
I know that on the original HTC One X, you had to use a non-gba sim card that said 50.01 on the front to make it work, and that if you used the one that said 50.05 you wouldn't get data even if you change the APN settings.
I just bought this phone a few minutes ago on Amazon and I know Houston is a 1900MHZ pcs market so that's not an issue, i just want to make sure I don't run into any issues with the sim card I have as it is fairly new.
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I have a question for you guys that are using the HOX+ on T-mobile.
What type of sim card are you using?
I know that on the original HTC One X, you had to use a non-gba sim card that said 50.01 on the front to make it work, and that if you used the one that said 50.05 you wouldn't get data even if you change the APN settings.
I just bought this phone a few minutes ago on Amazon and I know Houston is a 1900MHZ pcs market so that's not an issue, i just want to make sure I don't run into any issues with the sim card I have as it is fairly new.
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Well I cut my sim from a regular SIM card so there aren't really numbers on it. I think you'll be safer with a newer one than an older one so you're fine.
Also located in Houston and getting pretty good 3G
I tried to sign up over at tmonews forums and registration for new users is closed. Anybody have any insight as to when that will reopen?
I believe one of the reasons TMO has to go with lower power at first is to measure the impact of their new 1900mhz spectrum usage in the existing market in question. Since other carriers are using the same spectrum they need to make sure they do not cause interference. The best way to do that is short and long term RF studies. Start off with a refarmed freq at lower power then over time bump up the power and make sure it doesnt cause any new interference. If so then your able to go to a higher power. Im sure the FCC has time constraints for this but add into it the amount of towers im sure the carrier would rather accomplish more with each visit. So if an upgrade or tweek is needed then they can also adjust the power.
Forgot to add i recently acquired the ATT version of the HTC ONE X+ 64GB and it does ok in the Dallas area. Had it switch a few times to G and E but for the most part i stays on 4G. HSPA+21.6 DL speeds go between 2megs down and 9 megs down.
Prior to that i was using a Nexus 4 and TMO GS3. I seem to have better speeds with my GS3.
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I tried to sign up over at tmonews forums and registration for new users is closed. Anybody have any insight as to when that will reopen?
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The forums have been like that for a while (at least months). Don't know why. Perhaps you can email the person who writes the blog and ask about it.
I live in the Orlando area, I am on Straight Talk. I was using an at&t compatible SIM from straight talk and got up to 7mb down and 1.5mb up but these speeds were not consistent, a few days ago I switched to a t -mobile compatible SIM from straight talk and now I get consistent 12mb down and 3mb up. I was very surprised! I'm so glad I did this switch
I am using an at&t 1X+ which I unlocked.
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All, nice threat. just got this phone and unlocked the bootloader today. how can i unlock the simcard to use on tmo? i know we have LTE here and I am dying to see what kind of speeds i can get on this phone. thanks all
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Hi,
I am new to GSM networks and sim cards as I am coming from Sprint. Crappy 3G and our LTE in Las Vegas won't go live anytime soon so I am trying TMobile. I scored a good deal on an LG Optimus G, and I have it unlocked for TMobile.
I want to unlock, root, and flash roms. Should I be in the ATT section or the International Optimus G section for downloads/instructions?
Thank you,
Kevin
Las Vegas was actually the first city in the US where T-Mobile "flipped the switch" and turned on their 4G LTE service last November, a few weeks after the iPhone 5 came out (that was part of the reason, actually). I live in the downtown area and get somewhat "ok" coverage; T-Mobile's 4G HSPA+ is fine with me as I pull typical speeds well in excess of 10Mbps so it's a non-issue with me.
My LGOG can do the T-Mobile LTE without breaking a sweat, just requires me to add the fast.t-mobile.com APN (epc.t-mobile.com is fine for HSPA+ stuff, that might change in the future but I doubt it). I use their $30/month plan like so many others without any issues worth even mentioning.
If I misunderstood what you said and you were meaning that Sprint doesn't have 4G LTE here in Vegas, you'd be wrong on that count too (up to a point) but it depends on your area - they are currently testing it and I have a neighbor who noticed it last week on his Sprint device (think it's an S4, can't remember at the moment). We have a Sprint "switch" here in downtown about a half block from where we live and there's a cell site just off it so Sprint has the downtown area pretty saturated but it's not on 24/7, pretty sporadic as they're in the last testing stages before turning it on full time.
Anyway, as for the right sub-forum, it depends on which LGOG you have: the International version is the E975; the Sprint model is the LS975, and of course the AT&T model is the E970 which this specific sub-forum is about.
Choose where you want to participate by the model number/designation, or just participate in all of them I suppose. I'm going to guess you have the AT&T version since a) it's a GSM device (Sprint's is CDMA but uses the SIM card for LTE iirc), and b) the International version is factory unlocked from the gitgo anyway so...
You're in the right place, I'd say.
The process is fairly simple:
- use the ZV9-ZVB-Universal-Root (search for it) and it'll root the phone in a few seconds then reboot it ready to go (make sure to upgrade the SuperSU if you stick with the stock ROM or intend to keep it around in a backup)
- use FreeGee (get it on Google Play Market) to unlock the bootloader and install the recovery (two versions of TWRP or a touch-based CWM 6.0.2.7 are the choices), make sure you back up the EFS info before and even after you do the unlocking, it can't hurt
- copy ROMs to the externalSD card (or internal, I suppose) and have at it
Very nice device overall, my personal recommendation would be to avoid that Nexus 4 conversion since a) you lose the microSD slot totally, and b) your storage gets cut in half from 16GB to 8GB (not sure if that's ever been resolved at this point). Realistically while it's a neat idea in practice, doing it gets you basically nothing of any real use. The ROMs available nowadays as compared to long ago when that conversion thing was first discovered make the necessity of "pure AOSP as a Nexus 4" pretty much useless at this point in time. The LGOG is one damned fine device, seriously, and doing some tweaking with a custom ROM and some kernel stuff will net you an even better device.
Last edit, I swear:
Pick a radio as well. The stock JB AT&T modem works just fine for me, there is a hybrid one (33_84 meaning it's the core of the older .33 radio (like the LTE support) merged with stuff from the newer .84 radio (which doesn't support LTE) - the hybrid of both gets you LTE support and the other newer goodies too. Note: the JB AT&T radio does support LTE just fine, obviously, and it works with T-Mobile's LTE support here in Vegas and elsewhere too so there's no logical reason to go swapping out with radios unless you just feel like testing things for yourself. The danger with the radio swapping is a potential brick if the flashing process corrupts something; you may not recover from it in terms of phone usage but then you'd have a nice clone of an iPod touch with quad cores and everything!
I tested the .33, .33-.84 hybrid, .48, and finally I just said the hell with it and put the stock AT&T JB radio back on it and haven't had any reason to change it again, it works just fine on 4G HSPA+ and LTE combined.
Thanks a ton for the help. I literally just got this phone. I'm at work and like the posts above I'm having trouble getting lte....have to go
Well the info I posted above is tempered with the fact that it was my experience of using the GOG in that manner; you, like I have, posted in that other thread iirc where discussion is going on about the LGOG working with T-Mobile LTE then suddenly just not working and nobody seems to know why. In the short period of time where I did have it working it was great, had good speeds, very low ping times (one of those things about LTE that makes it faster), and somewhat solid connection/throughput for data transfers.
But, once that LTE disappeared from the status bar, it hasn't come back except the one time I swapped in another T-Mobile SIM and then it only worked till I rebooted (like 45 minutes tops) and when it came back up, no LTE yet again.
Kinda weird how/why this is happening, it could just be one of those things we'll never get a proper answer to or even a fix.
Regardless, the HSPA+ speeds are more than adequate to still be a very useful device. Personally I've never cared about LTE overall, and I know T-Mobile is getting there but they spent years building that HSPA+ backhaul network so that's good enough for me.