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How do you think the Samsung Charge will stack up to the competition? Not that exciting next to other Verizon upcoming LTE enabled devices? Or better than the rest?
Its a galaxy s with a better screen. It has the same internals. The thunderbolt has a better processor and a decent screen. The bionic is going to be a dual core monster and the sgs2 will be out later with the best of all worlds. The charge is a last generation smart phone with a new screen. I wouldnt put my money on it winning any contests.
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Do we know if SGS2 will have LTE modem in it? I hope it does, but the only confirmed model of SGS2 is for AT&T currently. SGS2 4G will make my year.
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Do we know if SGS2 will have LTE modem in it? I hope it does, but the only confirmed model of SGS2 is for AT&T currently. SGS2 4G will make my year.
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Well there is a screen shot somewhere showing SGS2 coming to VZW but thats not a lot to go on. Still, I can't imagine they would ignore the VZW market. Likely they will just be months behind, the way the fascinate was to the captivate
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The SGSII will probably on every carrier, seeing as how well that went for the original Galaxy S.
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Am curious whether the SGS II will have Qi (wireless charging) or not
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The SGSII will probably on every carrier, seeing as how well that went for the original Galaxy S.
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This generation is different, though. Verizon, and only Verizon, is pursuing LTE for its next-gen data -- since EVDO sucks and is deeply limited. And since Voice over LTE (VoLTE, which is why I guess all the Verizon 4G phones have the lightning motif) doesn't exist yet and you need 1x and 3G data for full coverage anyway, this means that Verizon models will need two separate radios instead of just being able to swap the GSM chip for the CDMA chip. LTE is even bulkier than WiMax, because it requires a SIM card and MIMO as well.
So while AT&T and T-Mo (if the latter continues to exist) will get something basically equivalent to the SGS2, Verizon and Sprint will end up with a bigger form factor -- like the Epic or Charge. And we'll have to wait a while this time too.
AT&T is going to HSPA+ short term for "4G" and LTE is their long term plan, so they'll need the same LTE radio as VZW phones when they decide to start up their LTE network and phones/devices.
I'm waiting.
If I go 4G, I want more than just 4G. I want dual core, good battery, front camera, better screen, hdmi out, etc.
Since LTE is so new, I may wait a year anyways. I may pick up the Sony Xperia Play so I can have the latest Android with all the above except 4G while adding real game controls.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/02/droid-charge-review/?m=false
They did an ok review. Seems like a Fascinate with 4G.
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superchunkwii said:
I'm waiting.
If I go 4G, I want more than just 4G. I want dual core, good battery, front camera, better screen, hdmi out, etc.
Since LTE is so new, I may wait a year anyways. I may pick up the Sony Xperia Play so I can have the latest Android with all the above except 4G while adding real game controls.
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It is my understanding that 1st year LTE phones will be like 1st year 3G phones; horrible battery life. Reference the Thunderbolt lol
AuroEdge said:
It is my understanding that 1st year LTE phones will be like 1st year 3G phones; horrible battery life. Reference the Thunderbolt lol
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The reviews say the Charge actually has good battery and kills the TB on that.
So why no Charge section at XDA again?
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So why no Charge section at XDA again?
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Its probably because it hasn't officially started selling in stores.
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so sprint just announced there first lte network area, and i just happen to live smack dab in the middle
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/28/sprint-caps-year-of-network-vision-milestones-with-first-lte-clu/
so other than huge jumping jacks being done by me, how likely is it that our/my phone will be able to be the new baddest MoPho on the planet?
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Photon doesn't have an LTE radio so its not like you'll get to use it *jealousy shrug* lol. LTE sprint phones should make an appearance on sprint's line up some time next year. I'm thinking after the summer or Q4.
i thought i read somewhere that the photon had a dual wimax/lte chip?
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i thought i read somewhere that the photon had a dual wimax/lte chip?
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Nope lol. Just wimax, cdma 1x evdo, and the gsm bands. I don't think there's a single phone on the market that has both wimax and lte if it is I bet you won't find in the US.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_photon_4g_mb855-3987.php
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i thought i read somewhere that the photon had a dual wimax/lte chip?
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Theres been rumors it does and that motorola has been hiding it..
We wont know until motorola releases the official full hardware specs of the phone this month (i think around mid this month) along with the phones kernel
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Theres been rumors it does and that motorola has been hiding it..
We wont know until motorola releases the official full hardware specs of the phone this month (i think around mid this month) along with the phones kernel
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There's no way they could hide it lol. The phone would have to be thicker to include a wimax and LTE radio. Again, there's no phone in the US that has this and I assure you the photon isn't going to be the one. There's been plenty of complete tear downs/videos and a wimax radio was alone. No LTE. I doubt they would "hide it" then reveal it. That doesn't really make sense to a marketing standpoint; if it had an LTE radio sprint would market the **** out of the photon to make money since the photon would be the only phone in the world with that combo.
I've been told many times by Motorola & Sprint that it has LTE, and we will get it in a software update. I am going to wait and see. Who knows, we may be surprised, although I am not counting on it.
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There's no way they could hide it lol. The phone would have to be thicker to include a wimax and LTE radio. Again, there's no phone in the US that has this and I assure you the photon isn't going to be the one. There's been plenty of complete tear downs/videos and a wimax radio was alone. No LTE. I doubt they would "hide it" then reveal it. That doesn't really make sense to a marketing standpoint; if it had an LTE radio sprint would market the **** out of the photon to make money since the photon would be the only phone in the world with that combo.
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Then why else would they not release there specs till january around the same time sprint reveals a big suprise at ces the 10th and motorola be the first company around the same time as development of this phone talk with beceem to create a wiimax+lte chip anddd they could not release that info to sell sprints other phones for the time being then the people who have those phones but want lte when available would have to buy the photon?.. also like the guy said above me many sprint stores will tell you there will be an update for lte on our phones.. And the phone wouldnt be that much thicker at all if it was anyways its already a lil thick compared to samsung phones... The only tear downs ive seen couldnt get past the metal plating covering the radios.. If they did the lte+wiimax chip is a pretty simple looking chip so easily missed.. Not saying your wrong just saying I do believe there is a possibility and listed all the arguements ive heard stating why (ive also validated those arguements too) either way I love this phone!!
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I guess I'll be one of the first to find out! It would be really cool if it is true, oh well if not.
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I guess I'll be one of the first to find out! It would be really cool if it is true, oh well if not.
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Do you plan on doing a teardown and soldering off the metal plates? Because if so yoyu would settle a long time rumor and possibly make it to engadget or phandroid. Either way I'm excited.
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I meant ill find out if it does when they turn on the network and update the software on our phones.
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I meant ill find out if it does when they turn on the network and update the software on our phones.
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You willing to put a little wager on that? You're not getting an update because it doesn't have LTE in the phone lol.
Hey chronic you wanna bet?
deedscreen said:
I've been told many times by Motorola & Sprint that it has LTE, and we will get it in a software update. I am going to wait and see. Who knows, we may be surprised, although I am not counting on it.
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I work for corporate Sprint and can say that the Motorola Photon 4G does not have a LTE chipset in it nor do any of the smartphones in current product line up have one either. Go into a Sprint S&R Center and have a TSR show you the MoBo of a MoPho and you'll see the chipset is a WiMax one. The Sprint market where LTE has been turned up is immaterial in the sense that they are not any devices currently available to take advantage of it. I would suggest people to tune into CES 2012 where we will make announcements pertaining to various technologies to be deployed as well as new products and services
I've been telling these dudes this lol.
Oh well, I guess it was just another wet dream!
wireless.praying.mantis said:
I work for corporate Sprint and can say that the Motorola Photon 4G does not have a LTE chipset in it nor do any of the smartphones in current product line up have one either.
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Was told by Motorola this same thing... however, was told also that they're working on an LTE phone for Sprint... for some reason, Sprint & Motorola don't get along that well...
So if us cellular has a LTE network in select cities, could the electrify have the lte radio? Or do they have another 4G phone in the works?
Now would it be possible that they made the photon with the beacem 500 for the purpose of having a test phone for the network for when they were testing their lte network?
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So if us cellular has a LTE network in select cities, could the electrify have the lte radio? Or do they have another 4G phone in the works?
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From everything I've read from US Cellular, our phone wont do 4g. (this wont surprise some, but there were/are people holding out hope). Just read there announcement today that they have several new phones and a tablet in "R&D" for there new 4g network. Supposed to debut in select areas in June, if memory serves.
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Sprint store reps don't know
I was due for a phone update and asked a rep in one of the Sprint corporate store about the LTE 4G that is coming out and does the current phones have the hardware to be able to use this and was told that all of the current top 4G phones (Galaxy II s, HTC Evo 3D, Motorola Photon, etc..) will be able to use the LTE 4G. Now that I have a Photon and will be stuck for 22 months should I return it and wait for a LTE 4G phone to upgrade to? I thought it was probably tgtbt that the current phones would be able to support the new LTE 4G. I probably should contact someone in Sprint about what customers are being told to make a sale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are a few topics on this question, but they are several months old now. I wanted to get an update on if anything has changed or if workarounds have been found or what not.
First, does anyone know if there are newer "versions" of the phone itself that might have fixed some issues afew topics have gone over? (light bleed, non working soft buttons, high heat ect..) and how to tell which one is the new version?
2nd How can you tell which Amaze will work and which one will not? I found this one.. Amaze on Amazon but the pic shows it with a T-mobile branding, which ive read doesn't work with 3/4g on AT&T.
So were (online) could you pick up one that would work with it, and how difficult is it to get it to work with it?
My current phone (the TP2) was just a matter of popping in the at&t card and going. Looks like the price has come down at least alittle bit, but im curious if it would be worth the effort to get the amaze and try to shimmy it on to AT&T, or wait for a newer phone.
[edit] On a side note, what is happening with the Amaze? Im noticing while the Sensation is still listed, HTC's site doesnt appear to show the Amaze at all, like it never existed.. are they trying to phase it out of existence?
The amaze, after being sim unlocked, does support at&t 3g/4G bands. It will have no problems running on at&t. I don't think that there have been any hardware revisions. So the flash bleed is just luck of the draw. My original didn't have it. My replacement does..
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The Amaze works just fine on AT&T's high-speed 3/4g UMTS/HSPDA+ data bands. It will not work on AT&T's newer LTE services -- which aren't necessarily any faster in real life than their non-LTE service, and AT&T's LTE network is still being built.
At some point AT&T may shut down the UMTS/HSPDA+ service but they've got an awful lot of phones in the field already using it.
Regarding word that the Amaze will be discontinued, the very fact that this phone launched during while the AT&T/T-mo merger was "coming" seems likely to have driven the decision to make it so it supported both AT&T & T-mo bands. Now that the merger is off, I wonder if T-Mo doesn't want a phone that might have the ability to roam onto AT&T's high-speed network. I don't know if it can roam this way, but I love the fact that this phone that can work really well, high-speed data and voice, with my choice of service by 2 U.S. carriers.
I got a used one on the forum. It's the T-mobile branded one works flawlessly with AT&T HSDPA after unlock. Speed test shows consistant 2.6-3.2 mbps download here in NYC area. Signal is strong and sound quality is great, best of all the phones I've had. (DHD sound quality being the 2nd best)
Unfortunately, the one I got had light bleed but it will only stand out if you are viewing something with dark background which is a rare case during my personal usage. Not sure if future kernel release can make the touch pad light dimmer or disable it completely.
Best phone I've used so far.
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I got a used one on the forum. It's the T-mobile branded one works flawlessly with AT&T HSDPA after unlock. Speed test shows consistant 2.6-3.2 mbps download here in NYC area. Signal is strong and sound quality is great, best of all the phones I've had. (DHD sound quality being the 2nd best)
Unfortunately, the one I got had light bleed but it will only stand out if you are viewing something with dark background which is a rare case during my personal usage. Not sure if future kernel release can make the touch pad light dimmer or disable it completely.
Best phone I've used so far.
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Congrats on the Amaze, as for the light bleed, the only way to fix it is to disable the light source. This can be done on rooted phones, a little searching will point you in the right direction if that is a solution. Otherwise there is little that can be don to dim the lights, kind of an all or nothing situation.
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Congrats on the Amaze, as for the light bleed, the only way to fix it is to disable the light source. This can be done on rooted phones, a little searching will point you in the right direction if that is a solution. Otherwise there is little that can be don to dim the lights, kind of an all or nothing situation.
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Thanks for the tip. I do remember reading something about that that some where but never bothered me as much since I don't find myself staring at a black screen as much.
Another reason I got this phone besides its solid build is the worldwide 3g support. I get to travel to asia once a while and it can utilize the WCDMA used in many asia countries.
Thanks guys. Now im just curious if they still sell "un-branded" phones. As the one i linked appears to be T-mobile branded. Id work i guess, but you know
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Thanks guys. Now im just curious if they still sell "un-branded" phones. As the one i linked appears to be T-mobile branded. Id work i guess, but you know
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Someone correct me if wrong, I think Canada carrier (Telus, Wind) do have unbranded Amaze. Without getting too technical, the telus one have the same 3g band as At&t and wind one has the same 3g band as T-mobile. Only the T-mobile branded ones can work with both.
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Someone correct me if wrong, I think Canada carrier (Telus, Wind) do have unbranded Amaze. Without getting too technical, the telus one have the same 3g band as At&t and wind one has the same 3g band as T-mobile. Only the T-mobile branded ones can work with both.
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Kinda wrong.
All of the Amazes are Quad-band phones, but are sim-locked (carrier locked). If you unlock it, it can be used on either network.
If you don't unlock it, then only on the original network.
Raydonn said:
Kinda wrong.
All of the Amazes are Quad-band phones, but are sim-locked (carrier locked). If you unlock it, it can be used on either network.
If you don't unlock it, then only on the original network.
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what I was referring to was only the 3g connectivity.
Well, i dont have a 4g sim atm, but i did see if unlocked that its suppose to work with 4g?
Anyway that just leaves finding a trusted source to purchase it from.
I am currently using it with AT&T here, 4g symbol showing. While I am not sure what's the standard used to measure the 4g speed but I feel it's much faster than my other sensation 4g phone.
Both phone are connected to the hsdpa network and speedtest consistently showing higher download speed than my sensation.
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I am currently using it with AT&T here, 4g symbol showing. While I am not sure what's the standard used to measure the 4g speed but I feel it's much faster than my other sensation 4g phone.
Both phone are connected to the hsdpa network and speedtest consistently showing higher download speed than my sensation.
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You using the T-mobile Amaze unlocked with AT&T? Did you buy it unlocked or get it from the carrier and unlock it yourself?
Course im also pondering if its worth it to wait for a quad core phone that is supposedly coming this year? Who knows.
got it on the forum, locked but the seller was kind enough to give me the unlock code. Everything is running fine. This is definitely the best phone used so far
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got it on the forum, locked but the seller was kind enough to give me the unlock code. Everything is running fine. This is definitely the best phone used so far
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Ah. How would you compare it to your sensation? is there much of a difference between the two?
I have an i9100 right now and run data on the non-smartphone unlimited plan. I've only had the i9100 since October, but I'm thinking of eBay'ing it and getting the S3.
My question is, would I be better served to wait for the AT&T version so I could get LTE or just get the i9300, live with slower non-wifi speeds and enjoy a new, unlocked, unfettered phone?
AT&T prevented the One X from unlocking their bootloader; to me, that already says enough.
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I have an i9100 right now and run data on the non-smartphone unlimited plan. I've only had the i9100 since October, but I'm thinking of eBay'ing it and getting the S3.
My question is, would I be better served to wait for the AT&T version so I could get LTE or just get the i9300, live with slower non-wifi speeds and enjoy a new, unlocked, unfettered phone?
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LTE is awesome, i have the skyrocket and Galaxy Note LTE versions. and they are super fast on the network, but i am bypassing the LTE and going the international SGS3 because i know that At&t is going to butcher this device stateside. not that it wont be fast.....but i want something un tainted by them......at least till the NOTE2 comes out, then i will all over that LTE phone....lol
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I have an i9100 right now and run data on the non-smartphone unlimited plan. I've only had the i9100 since October, but I'm thinking of eBay'ing it and getting the S3.
My question is, would I be better served to wait for the AT&T version so I could get LTE or just get the i9300, live with slower non-wifi speeds and enjoy a new, unlocked, unfettered phone?
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LTE is great! But you need to weigh it against the cost of having it.
In no short order, to obtain LTE on AT&T, you must:
Give up the incredible Exynos quad.
Deal with ATT bloat.
Deal with ATT hard-branding.
Deal with ATT redesign (likely losing the physical home button).
Deal with ATT kernels/firmware and potentially locked down components.
Have less dev support (international versions always attract more devs-- myself included).
Be locked into using only ATT (or paying for a SIM unlock code).
Deal with (usually much) slower official OS updates and patches.
Know that you're "in the system" at ATT because they have your IMEI.
Deal with having no idea when the device is actually going to be released.
I'm sure I missed some.
So, how badly do you really want a faster cell connection?
Hopefully that helps you.
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AT&T prevented the One X from unlocking their bootloader; to me, that already says enough.
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Couldn't agree more.
Plexicle said:
LTE is great! But you need to weigh it against the cost of having it.
In no short order, to obtain LTE on AT&T, you must:
Give up the incredible Exynos quad.
Deal with ATT bloat.
Deal with ATT hard-branding.
Deal with ATT redesign (likely losing the physical home button).
Deal with ATT kernels/firmware and potentially locked down components.
Have less dev support (international versions always attract more devs-- myself included).
Be locked into using only ATT (or paying for a SIM unlock code).
Deal with (usually much) slower official OS updates and patches.
Know that you're "in the system" at ATT because they have your IMEI.
Deal with having no idea when the device is actually going to be released.
I'm sure I missed some.
So, how badly do you really want a faster cell connection?
Hopefully that helps you.
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Great points, makes me feel even better about importing the S3 esp since this will be my first time doing so.
Also, a few have mentioned you can downgrade your data plan to medianet and save $ since the Int. S3's IMEI won't be in the ATT database & it's not considered a "smart" phone.
I will be happy to have the "home" button back since using my ATT Note that lacks it.
MoJoePin said:
Great points, makes me feel even better about importing the S3 esp since this will be my first time doing so.
Also, a few have mentioned you can downgrade your data plan to medianet and save $ since the Int. S3's IMEI won't be in the ATT database & it's not considered a "smart" phone.
I will be happy to have the "home" button back since using my ATT Note that lacks it.
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If you go with that media net plan do you still get 3G speed - Hspa speed ? Or what ?
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If you go with that media net plan do you still get 3G speed - Hspa speed ? Or what ?
Sent from my GALAXY.
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Yes, and yes HSPA+ which is being called 4G but is not LTE. Have LTE on my Note and while it's fast it sucks the life out of a battery. Will not give up quad core just to be on a LTE Bloated devices.
I usually get 1 or 2 down and right around 1 up which is more than fast enought to stream videos, internet works great, etc. Not that it matters to me anyways because my LTE connection speed is zero, there is no LTE in my area and it appears it is still several years away. Makes it a no brainer really... lol
Once you go LTE its kinda hard to go back to HSPA+
if you have wifi constantly its a no brainer.
Able to surf the web and stream HD videos on the road is very satisfying.
that's why Im so torn if i should get the unlock or wait for the LTE version.
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Once you go LTE its kinda hard to go back to HSPA+
if you have wifi constantly its a no brainer.
Able to surf the web and stream HD videos on the road is very satisfying.
that's why Im so torn if i should get the unlock or wait for the LTE version.
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I can Stream HD video on my HSPA+
bbgt2 said:
Yes, and yes HSPA+ which is being called 4G but is not LTE.
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Once you go LTE its kinda hard to go back to HSPA+
if you have wifi constantly its a no brainer.
Able to surf the web and stream HD videos on the road is very satisfying.
that's why Im so torn if i should get the unlock or wait for the LTE version.
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I disagree, personally. I had my Note LTE for a few months that I just sold last week and have since been using the HSPA+ Atrix until the S3 is released. The LTE was great, mind you, and sometimes I had speeds up to ~50 down. Honestly though, the HSPA+ speeds I'm getting now are noticeably slower, but only when I'm actually downloading something. Really, that's usually only podcasts and app updates anymore, and the speed difference in the end usually nets to an extra ~10-15 seconds of waiting. I have zero issues streaming HD video and music to my phone with HSPA+, so the LTE would literally do nothing for me in that case (except for perhaps consuming more battery).
With data caps, it's even less of an issue. You wouldn't want to be downloading any large files over the cell network in either case, so you'll end up on WiFi for that stuff whether you're LTE-equipped or not.
Furthermore, the LTE radios right now are so power-hungry that I wasn't very comfortable using it on my Note. You actually use a lot less power with your WiFi radio ON.
Put that all together and weigh it against the benefits of importing the international variant. For me personally, that's the "no-brainer."
To me its not for a couple reason, 1.) We dont have LTE where I live 2.) Only time I use data is to send picture/video messages otherwise I'm always wireless. Also agree with everyone else on the ATT front, they really do ugly the thing up. I'd also rather have a quad-core than LTE. I'm a hardware over network guy.
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Also, if you want to go there, LTE is not true 4G either.
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OK
Hspa+ is 3.5G
LTE is 3.99g
All good now?
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Hspa+ is 3.5G
LTE is 3.99g
All good now?
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Err, it's hardly 3.99G when 4G mandates 1Gbps and LTE can still fall into the "single digit Mbps".
Well were I live LTE is about 8mbs up/down on AT&T and H+ is 3-5mbs down and 1 up so no big deal for me. That non RGB 720p screen is, but I am still thinking about it.
I was on ATT before with 3G before, but not LTE and I haven't looked at their plan for a while. Can someone explain to me:
When you sign up for their LTE plan, do you get 3G also or no?
If no, can you also buy 3G and how much more is it?
If you can't have 3G free with LTE I think its not so good, especially if you are not living in a well coverage area, which 3G still has a wider coverage.
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I was on ATT before with 3G before, but not LTE and I haven't looked at their plan for a while. Can someone explain to me:
When you sign up for their LTE plan, do you get 3G also or no?
If no, can you also buy 3G?
If you can't have 3G free with LTE I think its not so good, especially if you are not living in a well coverage area, which 3G still has a wider coverage.
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your phone will toggle between 4gLTE -4G-3g-and Edge. but 85 percent of the time my Note is on LTE.
if your area has LTE why would WANT to buy 3g as well......lol
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your phone will toggle between 4gLTE -4G-3g-and Edge. but 85 percent of the time my Note is on LTE.
if your area has LTE why would WANT to buy 3g as well......lol
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Thats my point, what if you have an LTE phone and your area don't have LTE, or you go out of town to an area without LTE, and you have no 3G plan. You'll be stuck with 2G.
I keep seeing people post on a Development section saying Photon 4G with ICS or CWM or unlocked and etc, shouldn't we just call it Photon 3G and it's less confusing since currently we can't get WiMax w/ any of those method. I mean, it's already bad enough when we have marketing people calling, advertising, and forcing it down the consumer throat calling WiMax a 4G service when we all know darn well that is not what ITU want 4G to be call. And it's not like I don't appreciate the works that these chefs do, because I'm. But it kinda annoy the heck out of me when we know darn well as geeks calling these stuff 4G since we know there is no 4G, not even in marketing term.
Can't we just keeping it real?
What are you talking about I used 4g in new York city before I unlocked my phone and it was very fast I used to get 10mb download speed there is no company out there with 3g that's that fast
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Dovigoldberger said:
I used 4g in new York city before I unlocked my phone
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That is exactly his point. Once the phone is unlocked, it is no longer 4G. Thus roms that break WIMAX (due to being unlocked) should not have 4G in the name.
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That is exactly his point. Once the phone is unlocked, it is no longer 4G. Thus roms that break WIMAX (due to being unlocked) should not have 4G in the name.
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The phone is called "Photon 4g". Consumer modifications to the phone don't change it's name. You are seriously just splitting hairs.
actually, I think the name is "photon" since motorola has put their trade mark after (and on) the "photon" instead of the "photon 4G".
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/MOTOROLA-PHOTON™-4G/73047,en_US,pd.html
http://www.uspto.gov/faq/trademarks.jsp#_Toc275426672
findthedr said:
That is exactly his point. Once the phone is unlocked, it is no longer 4G. Thus roms that break WIMAX (due to being unlocked) should not have 4G in the name.
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I am unlocked and have 4G
halfdriven said:
I am unlocked and have 4G
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And how did you do that.
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halfdriven said:
I am unlocked and have 4G
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Tell me you're not still using the old school AlienPROM trick
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halfdriven said:
I am unlocked and have 4G
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with cellular (wimax)? I didnt know that was possible. awesome.
I guess one could argue that you are on another carrier (such as AT&T) with a USA gsm-unlocked photon and consider Hspa "4g." Although technically wimax and Hspa are not 4G, some carriers market it as such.
now that would be splitting hairs. :laugh:
4g hspa+, right?
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I could be wrong since I'm not w/ t-mobile, but isn't its 4g apply to hspa+ and not hspa? I don't think photon support hspa+ either, maybe just hspa.
HSPA+ is officially defined as 3G release 7, and is not considered 4G by ITU-R even under a relaxed standard.
that being said, I would be thrilled to have those speeds regardless.
well it apparently DOES have an LTE chip inside as well as so-called Wi-"Max", but if that will ever be functional, who knows, but it does have "4G" capability, just not functioning ones, yet.
photon doesnt have LTE
photon LTE has been DIS-proved time and time again. Do you have facts to prove otherwise?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724145
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233294
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176902
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672907
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590963
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579690
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411886
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1331277
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279392
DiamondJay20 said:
well it apparently DOES have an LTE chip inside as well as so-called Wi-"Max", but if that will ever be functional, who knows, but it does have "4G" capability, just not functioning ones, yet.
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So, iPad3 spec is good enough to run ICS and/or JB, so why not call it Android tablet? It does have the android capability just not functioning one yet.
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So, iPad3 spec is good enough to run ICS and/or JB, so why not call it Android tablet? It does have the android capability just not functioning one yet.
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Why would you call an Apple product that currently (and probably forever) runs only iOS an Android tablet? (Confused)
I suppose my Xoom could run Windows 8 if MS wanted to make it so......
I'm sorry I forgot to add the sarcasm tag. I didn't say I could or would, but rather if people should be able to call it 4G simply because the hardware support it but the OS isn't, then the same people could just call iPad3 an android tablet for the same reason. I didn't expect I have to spell this out in a forum full of geeks.
someone0 said:
I'm sorry I forgot to add the sarcasm tag. I didn't say I could or would, but rather if people should be able to call it 4G simply because the hardware support it but the OS isn't, then the same people could just call iPad3 an android tablet for the same reason. I didn't expect I have to spell this out in a forum full of geeks.
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OK - lesson learned for you I guess. Don't expect people who read and post on lots of boards to catch the little nuances of your (unstated) sarcasm. I skim numerous boards and posts everyday and also love sarcasm - and still get in trouble because someone reads me so very literally!
Peace to you!
Okay guys, simmer down...
On a less harsh note, why not call it an Electrify? The only difference between an Electrify and a Photon 4G is one has a WiMax chip and the other does not. If you have a WiMax chip, you have a Photon, but if your ROM can't access it, you might as well just call it an Electrify, since functionally, that is exactly what you have. A Sprint Motorola Electrify, since Electrify literally means "Photon 4G without 4G" (4G as WiMax, not trying to get into the nuances of what is and isn't 4G).
Meanwhile, Electrify users continue to have an Electrify because we have no WiMax to lose.
Also, the correct answer is: "Because that's the model name." 4G is part of the model name.
No sarcasm above this line.
Lastly, I wouldn't trust an iAnything to run to the store for me, let alone Android... Also, "Can" does not mean "Should". You can probably get ICS on an N1 or Desire, but should you? Absolutely not.
So, this may be an unrelated question, but what happens when Sprint switches over to LTE? I'm in LA (Pasadena, to be exact), and sometimes it seems like the promised "4G"-speeds never appeared. I almost switched over to Verizon until Sprint offered me a refurbished Photon in place of yet a 4th replacement Epic 4G.
Sadly, now that I really have fallen for the Photon--I've always thought Motorola makes great phones (but succumbed to the Epic's promised keyboard awesomeness), I'm wondering how long Sprint will support WiMax.
[Sarcasm]Maybe I should switch to the iPhone 5 when they come, at least there's only one party line./[Sarcasm]