Contemplating on buying the E970,
been comparing it with the Nexus 4 and the Xperia SP since they are the only phones I like in my budget. I'd like to know your opinion. I am impressed by the hardware of the phone, but I'd like to know a few things before I make the purchase.
Firstly, will I have issues with the network or any other feature using the AT&T unlocked version in India?
Also, is the notification LED on the E970 RGB?
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LED is red only
...and it's an awesome phone with lots of life left with the right XDA support.
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The development for the device will not stop until the Nexus 4 development stops, huh? Because they are practically the same phone.. correct me if I am wrong.
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For the most part you are correct
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One last question, does the Optimus G Pro have a good development support here in XDA?
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Please for your own good, get the Nexus 4. Either that or live in the Nexus 4's shadow. If i could go back, I'd get the N4, you get pure and stable roms from Google and of course, you get updates faster
At this point in time, considering what the LGOG brings to the table vs the Nexus 4, I wouldn't buy a Nexus 4 but that's just me personally. Can't tolerate devices without expandable storage myself, so the microSD card slot on the LGOG just makes it a must-buy vs the Nexus 4, not to mention the addition of actual LTE support without jumping through hoops to get it working.
And considering even the Nexus 4 is now in a holding pattern of sorts to get the factory KitKat image, being a "Nexus device" isn't helping it be any better than the LGOG at all.
PhonePhan said:
Please for your own good, get the Nexus 4. Either that or live in the Nexus 4's shadow. If i could go back, I'd get the N4, you get pure and stable roms from Google and of course, you get updates faster
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I don't get this idea of shadowing. If such way of thinking is correct, then every device is in nexus's shadow. I think the goal is to have a good working phone at the end of the day. This phone has a good variety of roms to help you get there: official supports of CM, Pacman, slim, all the unofficials and the very good stock rom. Also this uses sd card, nexus doesn't
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I don't get this idea of shadowing. If such way of thinking is correct, then every device is in nexus's shadow. I think the goal is to have a good working phone at the end of the day. This phone has a good variety of roms to help you get there: official supports of CM, Pacman, slim, all the unofficials and the very good stock rom. Also this uses sd card, nexus doesn't
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Sounds like your mind is already made up lol. Good luck
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Sounds like your mind is already made up lol. Good luck
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Yep, made up 3 months ago. You should get rid of your OG if you got one so you don't have to be in the shadow
Dolby Audio really?
The sound on E970 SUCKS! I use a headphone amplifier but even with that the sound is crap. Dolby Audio really? I miss having a removable battery. Lastly, when the phone gets hot, there is a built in cap that limits the brightness of the screen. (Live in SoCal High Desert with summer temps of 110 F)
The quad core is fast and can handle quite a bit at one time. I listen to music while playing games, reading emails, cruzin' the Play Store and the internet all at the same time. Haven't had any crashes yet. There is plenty of storage internal storage. I have a lot of downloaded music and a few large games and have yet to roll over to the 16 GB external card.
Biggest disappointment is definitely the sound!!!!!!
Loving my LGOG. The sound is a bit weak. But everything else is great. I would recommend getting a best buy type warranty or a case for your phone. Gorilla glass is slippery like wet snot. I've had the back glass beak twice due to the phone sliding away and falling.
I'd buy it again.
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Coming from an HTC device before this one, the sound is not that great but it works for me. Also the camera is not a big deal. Basically the same as the nexus 4.
I'm have been using houstonn kitkat for over a week and battery life is greater than stock and performance is awesome!
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Coming from an HTC device before this one, the sound is not that great but it works for me. Also the camera is not a big deal. Basically the same as the nexus 4.
I'm have been using houstonn kitkat for over a week and battery life is greater than stock and performance is awesome!
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I had a HTC too, hated s-on and the whole s-off process. Did you have to use controlbear and do the wire trick ?
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I had a HTC too, hated s-on and the whole s-off process. Did you have to use controlbear and do the wire trick ?
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i had HTC One VX with s-off practically since day one. there are very few custom roms for that model and only one aosp like which was cm10 but very early build. s-off is very easy, no need to do wire trick but i have done it to other older models like Vivid and Amaze.
i really missed stock android for months until i got my lg e970
Sorry, but would someone explain in brief what S-Off and S-On mean?
Also, I'm considering getting the Optimus G Pro instead because I find the looks more appealing and few extra pros over the E970. But the development there seems more or less stalled. Gotta risk it, I guess.
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Sorry, but would someone explain in brief what S-Off and S-On mean?
Also, I'm considering getting the Optimus G Pro instead because I find the looks more appealing and few extra pros over the E970. But the development there seems more or less stalled. Gotta risk it, I guess.
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I'll try, others feel free to add upon this. Different manufacturers use different mechanism to secure their devices. With htc its "security-on", it restrict what hboot you may run on your devices. I had an htc evo v/ htc evo 3d, with security-on I could only run hboot 1.07.07.07 whatever which only allowed stock based ics roms. After achieving s-off I was able to put a different hboot on my phone , i had jbear 1.47.47.47 i think.. which in terms allowed me to run a lot more roms. S-on also restrict what you may flash. For example firmware and radios, here we call it modem? Don't know the difference, can't be flashed with s-on.
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So as the title says im having my upgrade this week and bending toward the amaze against the galaxy nexus one thing that keeps me off from buying its that caroussel 3d effect when you quickly switch screens!
I went in a store played around whit it and when i wanted to quickly scroll through the homescreens i got that effect its kinda irritating after long time :/ and another thing is the back of the phone its quite ugly :/ guys im really sorry to post this here and annoy you as i know there is 10000 threads about a dude jumping to the amaze 4g but none did really answer my question
Thanks !
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So as the title says im having my upgrade this week and bending toward the amaze against the galaxy nexus one thing that keeps me off from buying its that caroussel 3d effect when you quickly switch screens!
I went in a store played around whit it and when i wanted to quickly scroll through the homescreens i got that effect its kinda irritating after long time :/ and another thing is the back of the phone its quite ugly :/ guys im really sorry to post this here and annoy you as i know there is 10000 threads about a dude jumping to the amaze 4g but none did really answer my question
Thanks !
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You can always try a different launcher.
I think that for some custom roms (specifically xboarder56's) you can disable the 3D effects by a Tweaks app that comes pre-installed in the rom.
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You can always try a different launcher.
I think that for some custom roms (specifically xboarder56's) you can disable the 3D effects by a Tweaks app that comes pre-installed in the rom.
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i could use a custom launcher of course but i like the sense one :/ and not an expert whit rooting and flashing roms on other devices on my x10 it was extremly easy just install z4root and voila sucks that it isn't an option by default tho :/
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i could use a custom launcher of course but i like the sense one :/ and not an expert whit rooting and flashing roms on other devices on my x10 it was extremly easy just install z4root and voila sucks that it isn't an option by default tho :/
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This device is more complicated than that.
However once you unlock your bootloader it's fairly simple.
I know NRGs Energy ROM also has the tweaks to disable the carousel and 3D widgets if you want. I actually think it's XBoarder's tweaks app just borrowed.
Like binary said, it's rather simple to unlock and root, just very time consuming on this device compared to many others. Binary put together great step by step instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426179
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I know NRGs Energy ROM also has the tweaks to disable the carousel and 3D widgets if you want. I actually think it's XBoarder's tweaks app just borrowed.
Like binary said, it's rather simple to unlock and root, just very time consuming on this device compared to many others. Binary put together great step by step instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426179
[HOW TO] ROOT HTC RUBY / AMAZE 4G
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Thanks had a look at that ! Could you please give me an inside about how's battery life ?
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Thanks had a look at that ! Could you please give me an inside about how's battery life ?
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Everyone has a different opinion on battery life. I typically get anywhere from 16 to 28 hours of battery life depending on amount of use. Got the same on stock ROM with brightness turned all the way down.
If you like Aosp go with galaxy nexus. There is no telling when we will get Aosp Ics. If you prefer Sense though definitely go with the amaze. Its a great phone hardware wise! The real big difference is the software and camera. If the camera is a big thing for you maybe the amaze is the way to go. Its a much better camera.
Great phone, there are only two issues that my phone has:
+The capacitive lights bleed onto the main screen.
+The flash for the camera bleeds into the lens.
Besides that everything works perfectly!
Concerning battery: for me if my phone stays on standby it will last for days, but if i use it heavily it'll give me a good day's use out of it.
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Thanks had a look at that ! Could you please give me an inside about how's battery life ?
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as far as battery life goes, mine usually lasts a day (at least 20 hrs), so in that respect i think it's pretty good especially since my old mt4g struggled to get even that lol
I would say save your upgrade for the next new phone.
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I would say save your upgrade for the next new phone.
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ya actually that sounds like really good advise especially seeing that the htc ville is just around the corner, might as well get that
its like the amaze but thinner/lighter not to mention ics and sense 4.0, so basically better lol
Thanks alot guys ! Well im quite desperate to change my old x10 lol will get the amaze !
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I was also torn between these two phones myself. I decided to settle with the Amaze due to the mediocre camera on the galaxy nexus, and also the lack of expandable memory (they seriously seemed to have pulled an Apple with this). The nexus does have the 720p screen (pentile though), but the Amaze offers the perfect blend of screen size and resolution. It seems like we do have a few hardworking devs, so it’s a matter of time before more jump ship to Amaze with more ROMs available.
One of the reasons I went with the Amaze was due to the back of the phone. I actually think hardware wise it is one of the nicest phones out there.
Like others mentioned, battery life just depends how you use it. I get between 8-14 hours depending on my day. That is quite a few 20 minute or so phone calls, texting a good amount, web browsing, g-talk quite a bit and a little BT streaming of music and movies. Streaming of the music and movies will really suck it down quick though. I know someone else who has a black Amaze and.gets 5 hours, but he is always downloading movies and streaming music.
It really is a great phone and it does have a good camera, just have to have decent lighting for a good picture.
Might run into a couple small issues like light bleeding into the screen from the soft keys lighting up. There are a couple apps out there to shut them off. I believe the G-Nex suffers from the same exact thing. That and the flash bleeding when taking a pic. I personally have yet to have that happen though. Seems common enough though.
Good luck! There are some good peeps on this board and especially in the Amaze section.
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JesseMT4G said:
One of the reasons I went with the Amaze was due to the back of the phone. I actually think hardware wise it is one of the nicest phones out there.
Like others mentioned, battery life just depends how you use it. I get between 8-14 hours depending on my day. That is quite a few 20 minute or so phone calls, texting a good amount, web browsing, g-talk quite a bit and a little BT streaming of music and movies. Streaming of the music and movies will really suck it down quick though. I know someone else who has a black Amaze and.gets 5 hours, but he is always downloading movies and streaming music.
It really is a great phone and it does have a good camera, just have to have decent lighting for a good picture.
Might run into a couple small issues like light bleeding into the screen from the soft keys lighting up. There are a couple apps out there to shut them off. I believe the G-Nex suffers from the same exact thing. That and the flash bleeding when taking a pic. I personally have yet to have that happen though. Seems common enough though.
Good luck! There are some good peeps on this board and especially in the Amaze section.
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Thanks guys ! I really want to get this device but can you tell me just a little bit more about the flash bleed ? I can't wait to get this and join and flash custom roms but looks so hard to get this thing rooted and is this phone easy to hard brick i really want my phone to last because if i brick it im kinda dead :/
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Thanks guys ! I really want to get this device but can you tell me just a little bit more about the flash bleed ? I can't wait to get this and join and flash custom roms but looks so hard to get this thing rooted and is this phone easy to hard brick i really want my phone to last because if i brick it im kinda dead :/
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There's a thread somewhere on here about it, but the gist of it is that the dual flash isn't confined/separated enough from the lens so sometimes you get some light bleed on the bottom (or however you hold your phone while taking a pic).
Supposedly you can fix it with a tiny piece of electrical tape, it basically mimics the effect of putting the dual flash in a housing unit (like the sensation has). I haven't noticed it enough yet to do that, but it does bug me that HTC produced this phone without fixing that...haha
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There's a thread somewhere on here about it, but the gist of it is that the dual flash isn't confined/separated enough from the lens so sometimes you get some light bleed on the bottom (or however you hold your phone while taking a pic).
Supposedly you can fix it with a tiny piece of electrical tape, it basically mimics the effect of putting the dual flash in a housing unit (like the sensation has). I haven't noticed it enough yet to do that, but it does bug me that HTC produced this phone without fixing that...haha
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Meh small issues no device is perfect can't wait anymore i like alot aosp and the galaxy nexus but ita battery fails and so does the camera so no thanks to that
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ok, so i have an SGS4G now, and i've had it for about a year now (since when it came out, not exactly sure how long ago that was ) and at the time of my getting it, i had a vibrant. i didn't know much of anything about customizing android phones at the time and randomly one night i was like "i wonder what i can do to hack this thing". so i rooted my vibrant but never installed a rom or kernel cuz as i said, i had no clue what it really was.
but my question is, would it be ridiculous for me to go back to the vibrant? i mean i LOVE my SGS4G, but there is so much more available for the vibrant. and i don't really use my FFC and i'm on wifi for a lot of the day so i don't think only having 3g would be a big issue for me.
thanks for your input.
well if you want to flash custom roms then the vibe is the way to go as it has more development going than the 4g.
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I had a SGS4G and I just sold it on eBay because their is just so many more options for this phone. The Roms that the SGS4G does have are great, but their are only like 2 or 3 developer's for that phone (who are awesome by the way). This phone just has so much more to choose from.
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I had a SGS4G and I just sold it on eBay because their is just so many more options for this phone. The Roms that the SGS4G does have are great, but their are only like 2 or 3 developer's for that phone (who are awesome by the way). This phone just has so much more to choose from.
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That's what in thinking
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I'm due for my upgrade soon, and am finding it very difficult to find a replacement that offers as much. Never mind development, new phones are just not hitting the mark. Either the resolution is piss poor (SGS2), or removable storage is missing (Galaxy Nexus), or there's no removable battery (One S), or no development or support (Blaze 4g) etc.. This phone offered everything when it was released, and now I'm spoiled.
Swyped, not typed, from my Digital Brick
I winder if tmo offers any bonus for waiting to upgrade
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I agree 100%. I had a choice between a Nexus S and this and I chose this and never looked back. This is a great phone to learn on but also it is extremely user friendly and now with all the ICS ROMs and many devs coming back on one form or another, it should be a no brainer. Does that extra G really make that much difference?
That's my question really. And I also wonder how the battery life is on the vibrant with custom Roms and kernels and whats the best combo?
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Juls317 said:
That's my question really. And I also wonder how the battery life is on the vibrant with custom Roms and kernels and whats the best combo?
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You've already got that 1650mah battery from the 4g, and the Epic Touch's 1800mah also fits in the Vibrant, so battery life has gotten pretty good lately. Not to mention ICS ROMs, like AOKP, get very good battery life.
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That's my question really. And I also wonder how the battery life is on the vibrant with custom Roms and kernels and whats the best combo?
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With Passion 13 RC1 and Ice Kiss Kernel 8.2 I was able to charge my phone every two days... amazing battery life... 3g always on! the only issue is that GPS breaks after deep sleep, so if you need that, it might be a pain in the ass..
right now I am using CM9 + SubZero Kernel #70. Battery life is not as good as the mentioned above, but it works very well. And GPS doesn't break after DS, as long as you get a lock once the system starts (first time at boot).
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Guys. I recently exchanged my iPhone 5 for a droid DNA thru craigslist. I am coming to android after almost a year and I was hoping to root and install sense 5.0 roms. So after doing the swap at the verizon store and finally sitting in front of the computer to start the s-off and rooting process I discoverd after an hour of unsuccessful attempts that since I am running software version 2.0.65.xxx I won't be able to unlock or root. I got the phone with that software and from my past experience, just assumed that everything would work out.
Since there is quite of bit of topics and items involving this device, I just wanted to confirm my understanding that there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to root the droid DNA if its running 2.0 version. Correct ?? No downgrading with an earlier RUU possible either. ... correct ?
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At this point in time there is no way for you to root your device.
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Thanks. That's what I thought. Also, since I am new here and haven't really been following the talks, is there any eta on the fix? Getting closer to a solution? No clue?
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Thanks. That's what I thought. Also, since I am new here and haven't really been following the talks, is there any eta on the fix? Getting closer to a solution? No clue?
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They have root exploits, but /system and the cid partition is write protected nothing can be done with it.
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It will be worth the wait
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I did the same this week...my question is it just a matter of time or are we really f*#%$!+ screwed!.....
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Does anybody know how long have we had the 2.0 software? Has it been unusually long to go without an unlocker procedure? I can't imagine xda devs not coming up with an exploit ever, but it could take a while I guess.
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And not a dev says a word ...
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From what I heard they were stopping asking for beta testers, so that usually means they have enough people testing.
I couldn't wait and just bought another phone. It might be weeks or they might not be able to unlock full functionality.
They had to wait for HTC to release the source which is why its taking so long.
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Guys. I recently exchanged my iPhone 5 for a droid DNA thru craigslist. I am coming to android after almost a year and I was hoping to root and install sense 5.0 roms. So after doing the swap at the verizon store and finally sitting in front of the computer to start the s-off and rooting process I discoverd after an hour of unsuccessful attempts that since I am running software version 2.0.65.xxx I won't be able to unlock or root. I got the phone with that software and from my past experience, just assumed that everything would work out.
Since there is quite of bit of topics and items involving this device, I just wanted to confirm my understanding that there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to root the droid DNA if its running 2.0 version. Correct ?? No downgrading with an earlier RUU possible either. ... correct ?
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You said thru CLs? Restart the phone holding VOL down to boot into fastboot, what does it say at the top of the screen? tampered, unlocked, locked? If you are lucky maybe someone rooted and unlocked before the update. Just saying, if it was me I would check.
Someone wanted an Iphone? LOL
I *think* I remember reading one of the devs mentioning that new things were encrypted on the ota and that is causing some problems getting supercid. Since I read it really late at night when I was drowsy I cannot remember where I read it.
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You said thru CLs? Restart the phone holding VOL down to boot into fastboot, what does it say at the top of the screen? tampered, unlocked, locked? If you are lucky maybe someone rooted and unlocked before the update. Just saying, if it was me I would check.
Someone wanted an Iphone? LOL
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Thanks for the tip. It says locked though unfortunately. :'(
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Thanks for the tip. It says locked though unfortunately. :'(
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Bummer, hand my fingers crossed for Ya.
Well, what can I say..I got tired of the phone already.. gave it up.. went back to an iphone 5.. (I guess it's about time I changed my username..LOL)..
I really wanted to like the DNA.. but I can see HTC hasn't done much in the last 2 years with the OS. Too bad
p.s. Anyone who is wanting to buy my lightly used droid dna phone (along with box and case etc.) is welcome to ping me.
androidbuff123 said:
Well, what can I say..I got tired of the phone already.. gave it up.. went back to an iphone 5.. (I guess it's about time I changed my username..LOL)..
I really wanted to like the DNA.. but I can see HTC hasn't done much in the last 2 years with the OS. Too bad
p.s. Anyone who is wanting to buy my lightly used droid dna phone (along with box and case etc.) is welcome to ping me.
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So, let me get this straight..... You were an Android buff, got tired of your android phone and dumped it all in three days?
It sounds like you didn't get tired of it, it seems like something much different.
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And after he gets his iPhone someone will figure out how to get supercid for the OTA
WizeGuyDezignz said:
So, let me get this straight..... You were an Android buff, got tired of your android phone and dumped it all in three days?
It sounds like you didn't get tired of it, it seems like something much different.
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Not 3 days. I am not new to android. I come from the line of OG droid and then droid incredible and then thunderbolt. I've actually written codes for various Roms before and also done quite a bit of theming. I just got to a point where I couldn't devote as much time to developing anymore. I had switched to the iPhone after the thunderbolt and found it refreshing and appealing to my engineering sensibilities. I recently came back to the android world via the droid DNA. Unfortunately it just doesn't click with me anymore. The gigantic screen, the unpolished OS and what a bummer it is to find out that even with a quad core processor, this phone lags and stutters at time. Don't get me wrong. I am not bashing android users. I just saying that the simplicity and refinement of iOS along with the practicality of a handy sized phone , just seems to suit me better.
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And after he gets his iPhone someone will figure out how to get supercid for the OTA
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I hope so. If I am unable to sell the DNA by then I definitely will be playing with some custom Roms.
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Not 3 days. I am not new to android. I come from the line of OG droid and then droid incredible and then thunderbolt. I've actually written codes for various Roms before and also done quite a bit of theming. I just got to a point where I couldn't devote as much time to developing anymore. I had switched to the iPhone after the thunderbolt and found it refreshing and appealing to my engineering sensibilities. I recently came back to the android world via the droid DNA. Unfortunately it just doesn't click with me anymore. The gigantic screen, the unpolished OS and what a bummer it is to find out that even with a quad core processor, this phone lags and stutters at time. Don't get me wrong. I am not bashing android users. I just saying that the simplicity and refinement of iOS along with the practicality of a handy sized phone , just seems to suit me better.
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Wizeguy highly recommends Nova launcher to get rid of the lag.
As far as liking one OS over another, it's personal preference and no one here will hate you for going to Apple. Maybe we'll see you back soon and you can do somethings for the DNA.
Ok so I had only ever owned Samsung phones...I had the HTC one x and I hated how aggressive the multitasking was....so got the one today and I'm still noticing the issue even with the extra gig of ram....like xda for instance if I leave it open and go back it'll refresh...same with the web...I don't know if it's my imagination but personally I don't see a difference..and I have maybe like 4 programs open....btw is there a taskmanager I can use to clear ram?
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Ok so I had only ever owned Samsung phones...I had the HTC one x and I hated how aggressive the multitasking was....so got the one today and I'm still noticing the issue even with the extra gig of ram....like xda for instance if I leave it open and go back it'll refresh...same with the web...I don't know if it's my imagination but personally I don't see a difference..and I have maybe like 4 programs open....btw is there a taskmanager I can use to clear ram?
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Ugh. Not going to lie, this post worries me. I made my purchase based on the fact that with such a big deal it was on the HOX I figured reviews would mention it this time if it was a problem and no one had. It's what made me jump to the S3 at the time.
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Ugh. Not going to lie, this post worries me. I made my purchase based on the fact that with such a big deal it was on the HOX I figured reviews would mention it this time if it was a problem and no one had. It's what made me jump to the S3 at the time.
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To be honest it has gotten better...it's an improvement over what the one x had but imo not as good as my gs3....I guess I was spoiled by the other phone ...but will say this phones build quality, screen and speakers are amazing...
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Ok so I had only ever owned Samsung phones...I had the HTC one x and I hated how aggressive the multitasking was....so got the one today and I'm still noticing the issue even with the extra gig of ram....like xda for instance if I leave it open and go back it'll refresh...same with the web...I don't know if it's my imagination but personally I don't see a difference..and I have maybe like 4 programs open....btw is there a taskmanager I can use to clear ram?
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So it seems that it only does this on internet connection apps right?
I know what your taking bout, this was the reason I took back the one x after a week and ended up with the S3. I did noticed it a bit when I played with the ONE at the store but not enough to not buy the phone.
I'm not an addict I just flash a lot.
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Does anyone know if flashing a custom ROM on the one x took care of this issue?
I'm not an addict I just flash a lot.
I just flashed trickdroid....gunna try that out...I know on the one x vipers Rom helped...so maybe when more development comes along there will be better management...it's definitely better then the one x was tho the more I use it
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Ok didn't help...have 8 windows open and came back to this thread which was in a saved state and it refreshed on me
Well mine arrives tomorrow. We'll see if it chases me away again. Hopefully it doesn't. I'm super excited for the phone but no matter how amazing the hardware if the software can't multitask properly I have to return it. I primarily read online and if my web pages keep reloading I'll just get annoyed.
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Well mine arrives tomorrow. We'll see if it chases me away again. Hopefully it doesn't. I'm super excited for the phone but no matter how amazing the hardware if the software can't multitask properly I have to return it. I primarily read online and if my web pages keep reloading I'll just get annoyed.
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If all else fails, you could setup the XPosed framework (requires Root) on your phone and use the App Settings module to force the browser to never close in the background (tick the Resident option I believe). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072081
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If all else fails, you could setup the XPosed framework (requires Root) on your phone and use the App Settings module to force the browser to never close in the background (tick the Resident option I believe). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072081
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Thank you. I'll keep that in mind. I may not touch root or anything until my 15-30 days are up to return it though. I just remember how bad things were on the HOX. No matter the rom or tweak they could never get it fixed. It just drove me off the device eventually. Having a little pre-device buyers remorse at the moment but we'll see this afternoon! Thank you for the future reference though.
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Thank you. I'll keep that in mind. I may not touch root or anything until my 15-30 days are up to return it though. I just remember how bad things were on the HOX. No matter the rom or tweak they could never get it fixed. It just drove me off the device eventually. Having a little pre-device buyers remorse at the moment but we'll see this afternoon! Thank you for the future reference though.
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I myself am torn. This phone is so nice but oddly I'm not over excited about it for some reason....maybe I've stuck with Samsung's too long ...no but seriously the screen and speakers are phenomenal and sense 5 is very nice, tho I could do without the feed...does the buyers remorse start in the day of receiving the device correct?
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So there is still no solution or workaround to gain true multitasking yet ? Surprised I havent heard anything about this in video reviews so far.
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So there is still no solution or workaround to gain true multitasking yet ? Surprised I havent heard anything about this in video reviews so far.
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Well from what Ive read on the international forums people say the multitasking is good one this phone...like I've said I've only ever owned samsungs and this is my second attempt at an HTC phone...so my opinions may be biased so to speak...but from my experience multitasking on my gs3 worked much better then the htcs I've tried...again use it own opinions on it...I'm not knocking HTC at all...I like both companies...
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So to you lucky bastards that already have the ONE what's the verdict on multitasking? Are the web apps still reloading when clicked on? This is the reason I took the ONE X back too
Flash much?
I think it only refreshes if it falls off the multitasking screen.
Never mind. It's as bad as the hox for browsing.
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I think it only refreshes if it falls off the multitasking screen.
Never mind. It's as bad as the hox for browsing.
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So u notice it too? Mines seems very selective...some times I can have xda open to a post...do something else...come back and it's fine...others it refreshes and bump me back to the main page...also (not sure if it's a Netflix thing) but if I pause a video and come back it'll return me to the main screen as well...is there a task manager where I can free up some ram?
I really want to love this phone it's so nice ....I hate to say it through not too crazy bout the camera quality....
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lunercrab said:
with the extra gig of ram.
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This scares me about the phone. I was about to pick it up tomorrow but now I am second guessing myself. I really did hate the HOX multitasking. Where I work the Internet is slow, I don't want to have to wait for all the reloads.
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Yeah. It's no where near the Galaxy S or Note lines. I don't really know why HTC cripples it to be honest. It's not bad, but it's not good. I mean, a lot of us don't swap out batteries. If HTC is going to cripple multitasking and memory management to improve battery life they should follow their own "studies" that most people don't use extra batteries and just keep it normal.
Yeah I'd rather have to charge it then have my phone refreshing all the time.
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Well I either gotta deal the phone or sell it didn't realize I coukdnt bring it back to stock to return it once it was unlocked
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Yeah I honestly am probably not going to root or unlock this one. I don't mind it stock to be honest. And it seems to cause more trouble than it's worth.
I've been using my HOX+ for a little over 4 months now and I can already tell it's going to go down as my favorite Android phone to date (with the exception of the Nexus One, it still holds a special place in my heart). With that said though, while I find HTC's customization of stock Android very useful in some areas, I'm now seeing the effects it has on the overall performance of the phone. I got my dad an Xperia TL and was using it for a week or so to get it ready for him and even though the HOX+ smacks the heck out of it with it's CPU numbers, the fact of the matter is that the Xperia is much, much [much] snappier since customization of the OS is very limited. You can quickly and easily see the difference by just typing with the keyboard, the HOX+ has that delay/lag to it when typing quickly or using the backspace, however, there is none with the Xperia TL...very similar to my Nexus 7. Swiping aside, my typing accuracy is far better on the Xperia TL and my Nexus 7 than with the HOX+.
It's really unfortunate that we don't have any AOSP ROMS (CM, AOKP, etc) for the AT&T varient because this phone would be fast as heck.
Elegancia has "de-sensed" options if you want a ROM without HTC's sense.
I think the sense interface is the element that most distinguishes HTC from all other manufacturers ....
Unfortunately its beauty is comparable to its heaviness
Maybe the question is how to optimize the sense ....
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So HTC should focus on optimizing sense... even the "feature overloaded" Touchwiz (compared galaxy S3 of a friend with my x+) is snappier/faster on similar Hardware.
Sense 5 should better optimized.
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Maybe Sense 5 without blinkfeed and zoe features?
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Now you are regretting that you bought HOX+...
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No regrets whatsoever, like I said, still love the phone and my favorite Android to date (#6 now). Just ticked at how Sense or any customization kills the phone's performance potential. I'll give Elegancia once they update it with the latest AT&T update...can't do it now.
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Now you are regretting that you bought HOX+...
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My international HOX+ is fully stock, and its buttery smooth, sgs3 has no match to the smoothness on sense 4+, locked 60 fps.
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Go into developer options and set all the animations to .5x
tick force gpu rendering.
go to check if 7 digital is running in apps>running, and disable it if it's there.
Disable HTC gestures in display, gestures and buttons
Use the power saver and only tick the conserve cpu usage to underclock cpu to 1.3ghz, it doesn't slow down the device (if you're not rooted)
For the keyboard, try using the trace keyboard option in the sense keyboard
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I find stock android boreing I like touch whiz interface instead of Google stock firmware.with that said there's no feature on vanilla android except run 5 percent faster that's all I tried every nexus device there and look and apeal isn't that great. .
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Hopefully Sense 5 will be a lot better.
veget83 said:
I think the sense interface is the element that most distinguishes HTC from all other manufacturers ....
Unfortunately its beauty is comparable to its heaviness
Maybe the question is how to optimize the sense ....
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It really is. Sense is just beautiful. People complain about how much better TouchWiz is, but Sense is easier to navigate...
It just seems to me that HTC just needs to get rid of some (maybe most) of the proprietary apps when google can supply the same services in a more lightweight manner. Particularly for the AT&T version. You really can't use that version without rooting it and getting rid of the AT&T apps because despite the quad-core processor they REALLY slow it down (not to mention that they drain the battery even if you're not doing much of anything).
It's great after that though. I'm just looking forward to REAL AOSP on my AT&T X+....if hope isn't lost.
Anyone have more TIPS for daily Sense optimization!?!?!?:silly:
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Hopefully Sense 5 will be a lot better.
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Just tried a One at Best Buy. Sense 5 doesn't seem any better to me in terms of performance. It seems pretty similar to what we have now. Sense has become way too bloated for me. I am going to the galaxy s3 actually, because I can at least root it and install an AOSP rom with ease, opposed to the Att One X+.
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So HTC should focus on optimizing sense... even the "feature overloaded" Touchwiz (compared galaxy S3 of a friend with my x+) is snappier/faster on similar Hardware.
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galaxy s3 with TouchWiz is WAY more laggy and unsnappier then sense on HOX/HOX+ ...i don't know why but the normal hox is really optimized from HTC and it's running on stock locked 60 fps...also th keyboard...a friend of me has also the hox+ and his is also running really good
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Just tried a One at Best Buy. Sense 5 doesn't seem any better to me in terms of performance. It seems pretty similar to what we have now. Sense has become way too bloated for me. I am going to the galaxy s3 actually, because I can at least root it and install an AOSP rom with ease, opposed to the Att One X+.
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Hmm, but what about the Trirangle of flashcounter that comes with Samsung Galaxy series....
hTC does not have them...
I disagree. My girlfriend's stock s3 runs noticeably smoother than my stock hox+ in many situations.
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Hmm, but what about the Trirangle of flashcounter that comes with Samsung Galaxy series....
hTC does not have them...
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I didn't not know about that. Doesn't it just effect the device for warranty purposes. It just voids warranty after a certain amount of flashes?
Edit: just looked into it, I won't be taking it in for warranty most likely and there is an app called triangle away to reset boot counter if so.
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I didn't not know about that. Doesn't it just effect the device for warranty purposes. It just voids warranty after a certain amount of flashes?
Edit: just looked into it, I won't be taking it in for warranty most likely and there is an app called triangle away to reset boot counter if so.
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Yeah that's true... but IMHO its pretty idiotic thing (on part of Samsung)... Compared to it unlocking the bootloader is much easier...
But only if I could S-Off my device
Yea I would like this One X+ a lot more of we had s-off or HTC didn't lock it down so much. The One doesnt have these issues. HTC had to face the brink of corporate failure before they provided a device like the One. I feel a little duped by HTC.
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