Evil Side of Sense - HTC One X+

I've been using my HOX+ for a little over 4 months now and I can already tell it's going to go down as my favorite Android phone to date (with the exception of the Nexus One, it still holds a special place in my heart). With that said though, while I find HTC's customization of stock Android very useful in some areas, I'm now seeing the effects it has on the overall performance of the phone. I got my dad an Xperia TL and was using it for a week or so to get it ready for him and even though the HOX+ smacks the heck out of it with it's CPU numbers, the fact of the matter is that the Xperia is much, much [much] snappier since customization of the OS is very limited. You can quickly and easily see the difference by just typing with the keyboard, the HOX+ has that delay/lag to it when typing quickly or using the backspace, however, there is none with the Xperia TL...very similar to my Nexus 7. Swiping aside, my typing accuracy is far better on the Xperia TL and my Nexus 7 than with the HOX+.
It's really unfortunate that we don't have any AOSP ROMS (CM, AOKP, etc) for the AT&T varient because this phone would be fast as heck.

Elegancia has "de-sensed" options if you want a ROM without HTC's sense.

I think the sense interface is the element that most distinguishes HTC from all other manufacturers ....
Unfortunately its beauty is comparable to its heaviness
Maybe the question is how to optimize the sense ....
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So HTC should focus on optimizing sense... even the "feature overloaded" Touchwiz (compared galaxy S3 of a friend with my x+) is snappier/faster on similar Hardware.

Sense 5 should better optimized.
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Maybe Sense 5 without blinkfeed and zoe features?
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Now you are regretting that you bought HOX+...
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No regrets whatsoever, like I said, still love the phone and my favorite Android to date (#6 now). Just ticked at how Sense or any customization kills the phone's performance potential. I'll give Elegancia once they update it with the latest AT&T update...can't do it now.
steve1996 said:
Now you are regretting that you bought HOX+...
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My international HOX+ is fully stock, and its buttery smooth, sgs3 has no match to the smoothness on sense 4+, locked 60 fps.
Tips:
Go into developer options and set all the animations to .5x
tick force gpu rendering.
go to check if 7 digital is running in apps>running, and disable it if it's there.
Disable HTC gestures in display, gestures and buttons
Use the power saver and only tick the conserve cpu usage to underclock cpu to 1.3ghz, it doesn't slow down the device (if you're not rooted)
For the keyboard, try using the trace keyboard option in the sense keyboard
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I find stock android boreing I like touch whiz interface instead of Google stock firmware.with that said there's no feature on vanilla android except run 5 percent faster that's all I tried every nexus device there and look and apeal isn't that great. .
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Hopefully Sense 5 will be a lot better.

veget83 said:
I think the sense interface is the element that most distinguishes HTC from all other manufacturers ....
Unfortunately its beauty is comparable to its heaviness
Maybe the question is how to optimize the sense ....
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It really is. Sense is just beautiful. People complain about how much better TouchWiz is, but Sense is easier to navigate...
It just seems to me that HTC just needs to get rid of some (maybe most) of the proprietary apps when google can supply the same services in a more lightweight manner. Particularly for the AT&T version. You really can't use that version without rooting it and getting rid of the AT&T apps because despite the quad-core processor they REALLY slow it down (not to mention that they drain the battery even if you're not doing much of anything).
It's great after that though. I'm just looking forward to REAL AOSP on my AT&T X+....if hope isn't lost.

Anyone have more TIPS for daily Sense optimization!?!?!?:silly:

sybyabraham said:
Hopefully Sense 5 will be a lot better.
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Just tried a One at Best Buy. Sense 5 doesn't seem any better to me in terms of performance. It seems pretty similar to what we have now. Sense has become way too bloated for me. I am going to the galaxy s3 actually, because I can at least root it and install an AOSP rom with ease, opposed to the Att One X+.

dubdroid_ said:
So HTC should focus on optimizing sense... even the "feature overloaded" Touchwiz (compared galaxy S3 of a friend with my x+) is snappier/faster on similar Hardware.
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galaxy s3 with TouchWiz is WAY more laggy and unsnappier then sense on HOX/HOX+ ...i don't know why but the normal hox is really optimized from HTC and it's running on stock locked 60 fps...also th keyboard...a friend of me has also the hox+ and his is also running really good

stelv said:
Just tried a One at Best Buy. Sense 5 doesn't seem any better to me in terms of performance. It seems pretty similar to what we have now. Sense has become way too bloated for me. I am going to the galaxy s3 actually, because I can at least root it and install an AOSP rom with ease, opposed to the Att One X+.
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Hmm, but what about the Trirangle of flashcounter that comes with Samsung Galaxy series....
hTC does not have them...

I disagree. My girlfriend's stock s3 runs noticeably smoother than my stock hox+ in many situations.
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Hmm, but what about the Trirangle of flashcounter that comes with Samsung Galaxy series....
hTC does not have them...
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I didn't not know about that. Doesn't it just effect the device for warranty purposes. It just voids warranty after a certain amount of flashes?
Edit: just looked into it, I won't be taking it in for warranty most likely and there is an app called triangle away to reset boot counter if so.
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stelv said:
I didn't not know about that. Doesn't it just effect the device for warranty purposes. It just voids warranty after a certain amount of flashes?
Edit: just looked into it, I won't be taking it in for warranty most likely and there is an app called triangle away to reset boot counter if so.
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Yeah that's true... but IMHO its pretty idiotic thing (on part of Samsung)... Compared to it unlocking the bootloader is much easier...
But only if I could S-Off my device

Yea I would like this One X+ a lot more of we had s-off or HTC didn't lock it down so much. The One doesnt have these issues. HTC had to face the brink of corporate failure before they provided a device like the One. I feel a little duped by HTC.
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[Q] Need Help Deciding What Phone To Get

Im on Sprint and im trying to decide what phone to get im debating wether to choose the HTC EVO 3D, Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4g Touch, or the Nexus Prime (which is likely to come to sprint at some point). What phone do you guys think would be good for a person that likes a lot of custom roms and high preformance phones with a fast CPU, and GPU.
I have an Evo 3d and i have nothing but touch screen problems. I always have to cycle the screen on and off or pull the status bar down to get it to recognize any input. If i was you I would stay away from HTC devices, at least the EVO ones.
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jsergio123 said:
I have an Evo 3d and i have nothing but touch screen problems. I always have to cycle the screen on and off or pull the status bar down to get it to recognize any input. If i was you I would stay away from HTC devices, at least the EVO ones.
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Well im currently using a HTC Hero which is still fully functioning with gingerbread, but im leaning towards choosing the Evo 3d because of the dev support here on XDA for it, its incredible how many roms are already available for it.
I'm a nexus s user... pure Google experience is just awesome! Speed, fast, sexy! You should wait for prime as it has dual core gpu and a super fast processor. The most important thing is it is very easy to root.
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melvinchng said:
I'm a nexus s user... pure Google experience is just awesome! Speed, fast, sexy! You should wait for prime as it has dual core gpu and a super fast processor. The most important thing is it is very easy to root.
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True Google experience is incredible im running it on my phone currently ,but i also enjoy switching between sense and aosp, i might just choose the nexus prime because of the updates it gets but im still not entirely sure on that, hmm i might have to wait till samung and google unveil the nexus prime.
Nexus Prime. Wait a few more days for the official announcement. You won't even have to think about it.
i think the nexus series is the easiest to root and flash custom roms

Quick question

I was looking at a gs3 and my EVO side by side. I know that both have the same processor.
What I wanted to know is why does Sammy seem to be able to make the interface so smooth? Don't get me wrong,this phone is HTC's smoothest yet, but the frame rate is still not as consistent as the galaxy. They both have similar insides and are built upon the same os, so what does Sammy do to achieve this?
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Your asking the evo 4G lte forums why the s3 is so smooth?
Honestly, it's probably sense, but touchwiz looks like crayola designed it
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I agree, it is probably Sense. But I have used both, and I would take Sense over TouchWiz any day.
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PillowMetal said:
I agree, it is probably Sense. But I have used both, and I would take Sense over TouchWiz any day.
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I def agree. People like touchwiz because its bright and catches your eye quickly. But underneath, its weak.
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I think HTC is a poor software company. Grand ambitions but they never execute really. And, I don't get it really. I bet they literally lose sales due to the stutters in the sense launcher.
I really loved sense. It's aesthetically pleasing, efficient, and has some of the best widgets I've used. But the stutter when switching home screens was too much. I mean, devs can lock down the framerate and eliminate lag but HTC doesn't think to do that? Blows my mind.
Again, its the sense launcher. Rather than root, I installed novalauncher. Smooth as butter. Significantly smoother than sense. And, the launcher is installed on top of sense. Shows you how great the hardware is and how poorly optimized sense is.
Maybe we'll get an OTA that'll address these issues. I hope so. I did read somewhere ages ago that HTC only had 4 months to design sense 4.0 so that may be the source of the problem. Maybe they've got something up their sleeve when they roll out jellybean.
Try a launcher like apex or nova prime if you want a smoother experience.
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the current launcher is actually not that bad, as i am using the enhanced stock rom. its just always stymied me why the frame difference, and I agree that it seems that Samsung has slightly better programmers.
But honestly Sense definitely has more utility than touchwiz

[Q] android 4.1.1 gta LAG

Hello, I'm running stock Android 4.1.1 on htc one x+ and my version of GTA Vice city is 1.03 (but I also tried version 1.0).
I'm experiencing huge stuttering and very low fps in the game. My device is not rooted yet and non-root game boosting apps don't make any difference.
Is Tegra 3 on the blame or am I the only one experiencing this?
I'm running 4.1.1 and I have Vice City (from Play Store) and it runs quite fine for me. It actually runs ALOT better on my One X+ then it does on my iPhone 5.
ZeroOveride said:
I'm running 4.1.1 and I have Vice City (from Play Store) and it runs quite fine for me. It actually runs ALOT better on my One X+ then it does on my iPhone 5.
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On what settings?
You should root your phone and install the gaming boost app made for the HTC One X.
trannygranny said:
You should root your phone and install the gaming boost app made for the HTC One X.
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Thank you for answering, but I don't want to root my device yet because of the warranty.
Make sure power saver is off also.
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Make sure power saver is off also.
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i never turn ON power saver
st3rnwik said:
Thanks, but i dont want to root because it is my new phone and i have it just half month....
And HTC ONE X+ is one of the top mobile phones it must run that game without any booster :-/
but thanks for anwser.
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There are toolkits that make the process of rooting your HOX+ painless and essentially fool-proof if you follow the directions. Don't think of rooting as "hacking" into your phone, think of it as unlocking its inner power (through, admittedly, tampering, but let's keep up the facade) that allows you to, firstly, clean off any unwanted default apps. It is cleansing and freeing.
Of course, if you mean you don't want to mess with it in case you want to return it, then ignore my fluff.
Also, I am not a mobile gamer, so I am not qualified to answer this, but it seems like if there were an option to speed up performance, then I would go for it, but I understand if you want to figure out if there is a setting you're not getting right that prevents a supposedly top tier phone from performing as expected. There are a lot of factors that I am unable to tell you about.
Yeah, I will consider rooting it .
Thanks for your answer.
Believe it or not I get better performance on max settings.
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Soooo...opinions on multitasking....

Ok so I had only ever owned Samsung phones...I had the HTC one x and I hated how aggressive the multitasking was....so got the one today and I'm still noticing the issue even with the extra gig of ram....like xda for instance if I leave it open and go back it'll refresh...same with the web...I don't know if it's my imagination but personally I don't see a difference..and I have maybe like 4 programs open....btw is there a taskmanager I can use to clear ram?
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lunercrab said:
Ok so I had only ever owned Samsung phones...I had the HTC one x and I hated how aggressive the multitasking was....so got the one today and I'm still noticing the issue even with the extra gig of ram....like xda for instance if I leave it open and go back it'll refresh...same with the web...I don't know if it's my imagination but personally I don't see a difference..and I have maybe like 4 programs open....btw is there a taskmanager I can use to clear ram?
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Ugh. Not going to lie, this post worries me. I made my purchase based on the fact that with such a big deal it was on the HOX I figured reviews would mention it this time if it was a problem and no one had. It's what made me jump to the S3 at the time.
soapbubble said:
Ugh. Not going to lie, this post worries me. I made my purchase based on the fact that with such a big deal it was on the HOX I figured reviews would mention it this time if it was a problem and no one had. It's what made me jump to the S3 at the time.
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To be honest it has gotten better...it's an improvement over what the one x had but imo not as good as my gs3....I guess I was spoiled by the other phone ...but will say this phones build quality, screen and speakers are amazing...
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lunercrab said:
Ok so I had only ever owned Samsung phones...I had the HTC one x and I hated how aggressive the multitasking was....so got the one today and I'm still noticing the issue even with the extra gig of ram....like xda for instance if I leave it open and go back it'll refresh...same with the web...I don't know if it's my imagination but personally I don't see a difference..and I have maybe like 4 programs open....btw is there a taskmanager I can use to clear ram?
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So it seems that it only does this on internet connection apps right?
I know what your taking bout, this was the reason I took back the one x after a week and ended up with the S3. I did noticed it a bit when I played with the ONE at the store but not enough to not buy the phone.
I'm not an addict I just flash a lot.
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Does anyone know if flashing a custom ROM on the one x took care of this issue?
I'm not an addict I just flash a lot.
I just flashed trickdroid....gunna try that out...I know on the one x vipers Rom helped...so maybe when more development comes along there will be better management...it's definitely better then the one x was tho the more I use it
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Ok didn't help...have 8 windows open and came back to this thread which was in a saved state and it refreshed on me
Well mine arrives tomorrow. We'll see if it chases me away again. Hopefully it doesn't. I'm super excited for the phone but no matter how amazing the hardware if the software can't multitask properly I have to return it. I primarily read online and if my web pages keep reloading I'll just get annoyed.
soapbubble said:
Well mine arrives tomorrow. We'll see if it chases me away again. Hopefully it doesn't. I'm super excited for the phone but no matter how amazing the hardware if the software can't multitask properly I have to return it. I primarily read online and if my web pages keep reloading I'll just get annoyed.
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If all else fails, you could setup the XPosed framework (requires Root) on your phone and use the App Settings module to force the browser to never close in the background (tick the Resident option I believe). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072081
Cryosx said:
If all else fails, you could setup the XPosed framework (requires Root) on your phone and use the App Settings module to force the browser to never close in the background (tick the Resident option I believe). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072081
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Thank you. I'll keep that in mind. I may not touch root or anything until my 15-30 days are up to return it though. I just remember how bad things were on the HOX. No matter the rom or tweak they could never get it fixed. It just drove me off the device eventually. Having a little pre-device buyers remorse at the moment but we'll see this afternoon! Thank you for the future reference though.
soapbubble said:
Thank you. I'll keep that in mind. I may not touch root or anything until my 15-30 days are up to return it though. I just remember how bad things were on the HOX. No matter the rom or tweak they could never get it fixed. It just drove me off the device eventually. Having a little pre-device buyers remorse at the moment but we'll see this afternoon! Thank you for the future reference though.
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I myself am torn. This phone is so nice but oddly I'm not over excited about it for some reason....maybe I've stuck with Samsung's too long ...no but seriously the screen and speakers are phenomenal and sense 5 is very nice, tho I could do without the feed...does the buyers remorse start in the day of receiving the device correct?
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So there is still no solution or workaround to gain true multitasking yet ? Surprised I havent heard anything about this in video reviews so far.
SysAdmNj said:
So there is still no solution or workaround to gain true multitasking yet ? Surprised I havent heard anything about this in video reviews so far.
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Well from what Ive read on the international forums people say the multitasking is good one this phone...like I've said I've only ever owned samsungs and this is my second attempt at an HTC phone...so my opinions may be biased so to speak...but from my experience multitasking on my gs3 worked much better then the htcs I've tried...again use it own opinions on it...I'm not knocking HTC at all...I like both companies...
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So to you lucky bastards that already have the ONE what's the verdict on multitasking? Are the web apps still reloading when clicked on? This is the reason I took the ONE X back too
Flash much?
I think it only refreshes if it falls off the multitasking screen.
Never mind. It's as bad as the hox for browsing.
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soapbubble said:
I think it only refreshes if it falls off the multitasking screen.
Never mind. It's as bad as the hox for browsing.
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So u notice it too? Mines seems very selective...some times I can have xda open to a post...do something else...come back and it's fine...others it refreshes and bump me back to the main page...also (not sure if it's a Netflix thing) but if I pause a video and come back it'll return me to the main screen as well...is there a task manager where I can free up some ram?
I really want to love this phone it's so nice ....I hate to say it through not too crazy bout the camera quality....
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lunercrab said:
with the extra gig of ram.
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This scares me about the phone. I was about to pick it up tomorrow but now I am second guessing myself. I really did hate the HOX multitasking. Where I work the Internet is slow, I don't want to have to wait for all the reloads.
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Yeah. It's no where near the Galaxy S or Note lines. I don't really know why HTC cripples it to be honest. It's not bad, but it's not good. I mean, a lot of us don't swap out batteries. If HTC is going to cripple multitasking and memory management to improve battery life they should follow their own "studies" that most people don't use extra batteries and just keep it normal.
Yeah I'd rather have to charge it then have my phone refreshing all the time.
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Well I either gotta deal the phone or sell it didn't realize I coukdnt bring it back to stock to return it once it was unlocked
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Yeah I honestly am probably not going to root or unlock this one. I don't mind it stock to be honest. And it seems to cause more trouble than it's worth.

[Q] Is the E970 a good buy?

Contemplating on buying the E970,
been comparing it with the Nexus 4 and the Xperia SP since they are the only phones I like in my budget. I'd like to know your opinion. I am impressed by the hardware of the phone, but I'd like to know a few things before I make the purchase.
Firstly, will I have issues with the network or any other feature using the AT&T unlocked version in India?
Also, is the notification LED on the E970 RGB?
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LED is red only
...and it's an awesome phone with lots of life left with the right XDA support.
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The development for the device will not stop until the Nexus 4 development stops, huh? Because they are practically the same phone.. correct me if I am wrong.
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For the most part you are correct
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One last question, does the Optimus G Pro have a good development support here in XDA?
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Please for your own good, get the Nexus 4. Either that or live in the Nexus 4's shadow. If i could go back, I'd get the N4, you get pure and stable roms from Google and of course, you get updates faster
At this point in time, considering what the LGOG brings to the table vs the Nexus 4, I wouldn't buy a Nexus 4 but that's just me personally. Can't tolerate devices without expandable storage myself, so the microSD card slot on the LGOG just makes it a must-buy vs the Nexus 4, not to mention the addition of actual LTE support without jumping through hoops to get it working.
And considering even the Nexus 4 is now in a holding pattern of sorts to get the factory KitKat image, being a "Nexus device" isn't helping it be any better than the LGOG at all.
PhonePhan said:
Please for your own good, get the Nexus 4. Either that or live in the Nexus 4's shadow. If i could go back, I'd get the N4, you get pure and stable roms from Google and of course, you get updates faster
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I don't get this idea of shadowing. If such way of thinking is correct, then every device is in nexus's shadow. I think the goal is to have a good working phone at the end of the day. This phone has a good variety of roms to help you get there: official supports of CM, Pacman, slim, all the unofficials and the very good stock rom. Also this uses sd card, nexus doesn't
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I don't get this idea of shadowing. If such way of thinking is correct, then every device is in nexus's shadow. I think the goal is to have a good working phone at the end of the day. This phone has a good variety of roms to help you get there: official supports of CM, Pacman, slim, all the unofficials and the very good stock rom. Also this uses sd card, nexus doesn't
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Sounds like your mind is already made up lol. Good luck
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Sounds like your mind is already made up lol. Good luck
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Yep, made up 3 months ago. You should get rid of your OG if you got one so you don't have to be in the shadow
Dolby Audio really?
The sound on E970 SUCKS! I use a headphone amplifier but even with that the sound is crap. Dolby Audio really? I miss having a removable battery. Lastly, when the phone gets hot, there is a built in cap that limits the brightness of the screen. (Live in SoCal High Desert with summer temps of 110 F)
The quad core is fast and can handle quite a bit at one time. I listen to music while playing games, reading emails, cruzin' the Play Store and the internet all at the same time. Haven't had any crashes yet. There is plenty of storage internal storage. I have a lot of downloaded music and a few large games and have yet to roll over to the 16 GB external card.
Biggest disappointment is definitely the sound!!!!!!
Loving my LGOG. The sound is a bit weak. But everything else is great. I would recommend getting a best buy type warranty or a case for your phone. Gorilla glass is slippery like wet snot. I've had the back glass beak twice due to the phone sliding away and falling.
I'd buy it again.
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Coming from an HTC device before this one, the sound is not that great but it works for me. Also the camera is not a big deal. Basically the same as the nexus 4.
I'm have been using houstonn kitkat for over a week and battery life is greater than stock and performance is awesome!
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el_venga said:
Coming from an HTC device before this one, the sound is not that great but it works for me. Also the camera is not a big deal. Basically the same as the nexus 4.
I'm have been using houstonn kitkat for over a week and battery life is greater than stock and performance is awesome!
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I had a HTC too, hated s-on and the whole s-off process. Did you have to use controlbear and do the wire trick ?
optimusv45 said:
I had a HTC too, hated s-on and the whole s-off process. Did you have to use controlbear and do the wire trick ?
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i had HTC One VX with s-off practically since day one. there are very few custom roms for that model and only one aosp like which was cm10 but very early build. s-off is very easy, no need to do wire trick but i have done it to other older models like Vivid and Amaze.
i really missed stock android for months until i got my lg e970
Sorry, but would someone explain in brief what S-Off and S-On mean?
Also, I'm considering getting the Optimus G Pro instead because I find the looks more appealing and few extra pros over the E970. But the development there seems more or less stalled. Gotta risk it, I guess.
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ron_gangte said:
Sorry, but would someone explain in brief what S-Off and S-On mean?
Also, I'm considering getting the Optimus G Pro instead because I find the looks more appealing and few extra pros over the E970. But the development there seems more or less stalled. Gotta risk it, I guess.
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I'll try, others feel free to add upon this. Different manufacturers use different mechanism to secure their devices. With htc its "security-on", it restrict what hboot you may run on your devices. I had an htc evo v/ htc evo 3d, with security-on I could only run hboot 1.07.07.07 whatever which only allowed stock based ics roms. After achieving s-off I was able to put a different hboot on my phone , i had jbear 1.47.47.47 i think.. which in terms allowed me to run a lot more roms. S-on also restrict what you may flash. For example firmware and radios, here we call it modem? Don't know the difference, can't be flashed with s-on.

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