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so it's been a few months since the last thread regarding how the atrix is.
I currently have a Inspire 4G and I'm debating on getting the Atrix.
You own it, I want to know about it! What do you think? Should I make the switch?
The answer to your question is entirely subjective.
Was it ever bad? Debuted a super phone?
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It was good when it was locked, now that it is unlocked it is turning into a behemoth. Just wait until you see a polished CM7 rom on this thing.
it was never bad, otherwise this forum would be desolate.
If you are willing to unlock and flash custom ROM, its a beast.
If you have to live with the stock firmware, there's probably better options out there, unless you really hate 4.3 form factor.
put it to you this way the locked bootloader was why alot of people didnt care for it but the bootloader can be unlocked now and the custom rom train is going to pick up steam, as some one else said cm7 for one thing
It's better than the Inspire that I owned.
Don't listen to what they say in the Inspire forums. The Inspire isn't the best AT&T has and the Atrix is a lot better than what people think. It's a very nice phone.
Not trying to put the Inspire down at all--I just know because I've owned both of them. The Atrix beats it and the Nexus S that I have...
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Zbor said:
so it's been a few months since the last thread regarding how the atrix is.
I currently have a Inspire 4G and I'm debating on getting the Atrix.
You own it, I want to know about it! What do you think? Should I make the switch?
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Honestly, it was never bad. As a stock device that was incapable of installing kernels, it was good. I still found myself using my Captivate while the bootloader was locked. Now that there's ROMs and kernels available, I haven't touched my Cappy at all.
wow! I wasn't expecting that many responses so fast!
I want to root the phone, play ff7 (of course) and ENJOY the phone.
I put a custom rom on my inspire so I don't see why I wouldn't put a custom rom on the atrix...
Trying to get the inspire back to "out of the box" state so I can return it.
The only issue I have with the inspire is running fpse and ff7. little laggy at times. hoping the dual core will remedy the issue.
hell, it's the same price and you get more internal memory, hdmi cable, and a better CPU..
Zbor said:
wow! I wasn't expecting that many responses so fast!
I want to root the phone, play ff7 (of course) and ENJOY the phone.
I put a custom rom on my inspire so I don't see why I wouldn't put a custom rom on the atrix...
Trying to get the inspire back to "out of the box" state so I can return it.
The only issue I have with the inspire is running fpse and ff7. little laggy at times. hoping the dual core will remedy the issue.
hell, it's the same price and you get more internal memory, hdmi cable, and a better CPU..
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I've never had any lag on any emulator I've tried. I don't think I've lagged once in a game.
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Atrix is the best phone i've used, honestly. I wouldn't trade it for anything, except maybe SGSII.
Sure, it has some bugs and issues at the moment, but those will be fixed or bypassed eventually. Atrix has a great dev community.
People here there using the CM7 PRE-BETA for daily use.. And they are sh****** their pants..
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Paschalis said:
People here there using the CM7 PRE-BETA for daily use.. And they are sh****** their pants..
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Get CM7 on this baby and she flys
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Yeah CM7s pretty nice. It definitely makes this phone 10x better.
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awesome. I'll get the phone this evening and start in on the hacking
btw, does the phone still get really hot?
BravoMotorola said:
Yeah CM7s pretty nice. It definitely makes this phone 10x better.
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I'm running CM7 Pre-beta as daily use right now, with a few minor bugs, and it is sick fast.
Zbor said:
btw, does the phone still get really hot?
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Mine doesn't ever get hot.
The only time mine gets warm is if it's hot outside and I use GPS.
Zbor said:
btw, does the phone still get really hot?
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The only time my phone gets hot is when I'm using it with the car dock, where it's charging, playing Slacker/Pandora/Google Music, and sitting in the hot sun.
Just want opinions. Thank you
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Without sd card reader, half the ram, single core cpu, lower resolution screen, IMO the Atrix, hands down. Nexus S is a phone of the past.
Sure, it's a Google Phone, it gets everything first, but with CM7 picking up it's pace as it has been on the Atrix, I don't see why anyone would pick the Nexus S instead.
Go go Atrix!
Agreed the Atrix has better specs. The Nexus S is a nice phone, I've gotten to play with it because my cousin has one. The Atrix is superior hardware and the Nexus S will get the official Google updates first. If I was going to pick between the two, I would definitely choose my Atrix, but I would also be happy with a Nexus S. I've been running the newest CM weekly with fingerprint for about 48 hours and have been very impressed with it.
I have the atrix running cm7 oc'd 1.45 but I wanna trade for BNIB NEXUS S WHITE
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Depends on whether you are planning to load a custom ROM. If not, definitely don't use the Atrix. If yes, then the Atrix is probably better (unless you need a bigger screen or are a camera buff).
I love the atrix but, I have to ask....
If your going to buy a new phone why don't you get... "A new phone"?
Samsung Galaxy S II ?
Samsung Galaxy Nexus ?
and yes stock moto sucks.
Because I'm not buying I'm trading.. know anyone that wanna trade atrix for galaxy nexus. Yeah. Lol
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Without sd card reader, half the ram, single core cpu, lower resolution screen, IMO the Atrix, hands down. Nexus S is a phone of the past.
Sure, it's a Google Phone, it gets everything first, but with CM7 picking up it's pace as it has been on the Atrix, I don't see why anyone would pick the Nexus S instead.
Go go Atrix!
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This pretty much sums up what I was gonna say myself...
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But will I notice a speed difference with it overclocked??
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It's pretty fast anyway without overclock, but when you get over the 100 app mark then you notice that it doesn't perform as fast. But overclocking to 1.45Ghz makes a significant difference to the speed.
So oc'ing the ns however fast(I haven't looked it up)would be nearly the same speed I'm having now on my atrix?? Or will I noticelag on the ns
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So oc'ing the ns however fast(I haven't looked it up)would be nearly the same speed I'm having now on my atrix?? Or will I noticelag on the ns
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You will notice lag. No matter how much you OC it, it won't be as smooth as the Atrix.
That's not saying the NS is a bad phone, but the only time I've used mine since i've had my Atrix is when the ICS SDK port was released.
I would go with the Nexus S. The probable lack of Sammich on the Atrix is a deal breaker for me.
I'm guessing cuz its still android 4.1.2, we should be able to run it right? Is it possible to pretty much port the HTC one to this phone? Software-wise
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Rocklee99 said:
I'm guessing cuz its still android 4.1.2, we should be able to run it right? Is it possible to pretty much port the HTC one to this phone? Software-wise
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If its anything like when sense 3.0 came out then yes. I had an og and sense 3 was on it a lot.
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I think it may be a little more complex because of the new blink interface. It may require a phone with burly specs. Me personally I don't feel like the LTE's GPU is equipped to even handle jelly bean let alone sense 5 but we shall see. No doubt someone will port it eventually but how smooth it runs and how much of it works remains to be seen.
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I think it may be a little more complex because of the new blink interface. It may require a phone with burly specs. Me personally I don't feel like the LTE's GPU is equipped to even handle jelly bean let alone sense 5 but we shall see. No doubt someone will port it eventually but how smooth it runs and how much of it works remains to be seen.
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Blink, I'm assuming is the live tiles? If so I feel they would juss be a battery drainer. Not going into JBs performance on any one phone. Each phone is different.
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I've been using my HOX+ for a little over 4 months now and I can already tell it's going to go down as my favorite Android phone to date (with the exception of the Nexus One, it still holds a special place in my heart). With that said though, while I find HTC's customization of stock Android very useful in some areas, I'm now seeing the effects it has on the overall performance of the phone. I got my dad an Xperia TL and was using it for a week or so to get it ready for him and even though the HOX+ smacks the heck out of it with it's CPU numbers, the fact of the matter is that the Xperia is much, much [much] snappier since customization of the OS is very limited. You can quickly and easily see the difference by just typing with the keyboard, the HOX+ has that delay/lag to it when typing quickly or using the backspace, however, there is none with the Xperia TL...very similar to my Nexus 7. Swiping aside, my typing accuracy is far better on the Xperia TL and my Nexus 7 than with the HOX+.
It's really unfortunate that we don't have any AOSP ROMS (CM, AOKP, etc) for the AT&T varient because this phone would be fast as heck.
Elegancia has "de-sensed" options if you want a ROM without HTC's sense.
I think the sense interface is the element that most distinguishes HTC from all other manufacturers ....
Unfortunately its beauty is comparable to its heaviness
Maybe the question is how to optimize the sense ....
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So HTC should focus on optimizing sense... even the "feature overloaded" Touchwiz (compared galaxy S3 of a friend with my x+) is snappier/faster on similar Hardware.
Sense 5 should better optimized.
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Maybe Sense 5 without blinkfeed and zoe features?
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Now you are regretting that you bought HOX+...
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No regrets whatsoever, like I said, still love the phone and my favorite Android to date (#6 now). Just ticked at how Sense or any customization kills the phone's performance potential. I'll give Elegancia once they update it with the latest AT&T update...can't do it now.
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Now you are regretting that you bought HOX+...
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My international HOX+ is fully stock, and its buttery smooth, sgs3 has no match to the smoothness on sense 4+, locked 60 fps.
Tips:
Go into developer options and set all the animations to .5x
tick force gpu rendering.
go to check if 7 digital is running in apps>running, and disable it if it's there.
Disable HTC gestures in display, gestures and buttons
Use the power saver and only tick the conserve cpu usage to underclock cpu to 1.3ghz, it doesn't slow down the device (if you're not rooted)
For the keyboard, try using the trace keyboard option in the sense keyboard
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I find stock android boreing I like touch whiz interface instead of Google stock firmware.with that said there's no feature on vanilla android except run 5 percent faster that's all I tried every nexus device there and look and apeal isn't that great. .
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Hopefully Sense 5 will be a lot better.
veget83 said:
I think the sense interface is the element that most distinguishes HTC from all other manufacturers ....
Unfortunately its beauty is comparable to its heaviness
Maybe the question is how to optimize the sense ....
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It really is. Sense is just beautiful. People complain about how much better TouchWiz is, but Sense is easier to navigate...
It just seems to me that HTC just needs to get rid of some (maybe most) of the proprietary apps when google can supply the same services in a more lightweight manner. Particularly for the AT&T version. You really can't use that version without rooting it and getting rid of the AT&T apps because despite the quad-core processor they REALLY slow it down (not to mention that they drain the battery even if you're not doing much of anything).
It's great after that though. I'm just looking forward to REAL AOSP on my AT&T X+....if hope isn't lost.
Anyone have more TIPS for daily Sense optimization!?!?!?:silly:
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Hopefully Sense 5 will be a lot better.
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Just tried a One at Best Buy. Sense 5 doesn't seem any better to me in terms of performance. It seems pretty similar to what we have now. Sense has become way too bloated for me. I am going to the galaxy s3 actually, because I can at least root it and install an AOSP rom with ease, opposed to the Att One X+.
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So HTC should focus on optimizing sense... even the "feature overloaded" Touchwiz (compared galaxy S3 of a friend with my x+) is snappier/faster on similar Hardware.
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galaxy s3 with TouchWiz is WAY more laggy and unsnappier then sense on HOX/HOX+ ...i don't know why but the normal hox is really optimized from HTC and it's running on stock locked 60 fps...also th keyboard...a friend of me has also the hox+ and his is also running really good
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Just tried a One at Best Buy. Sense 5 doesn't seem any better to me in terms of performance. It seems pretty similar to what we have now. Sense has become way too bloated for me. I am going to the galaxy s3 actually, because I can at least root it and install an AOSP rom with ease, opposed to the Att One X+.
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Hmm, but what about the Trirangle of flashcounter that comes with Samsung Galaxy series....
hTC does not have them...
I disagree. My girlfriend's stock s3 runs noticeably smoother than my stock hox+ in many situations.
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Hmm, but what about the Trirangle of flashcounter that comes with Samsung Galaxy series....
hTC does not have them...
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I didn't not know about that. Doesn't it just effect the device for warranty purposes. It just voids warranty after a certain amount of flashes?
Edit: just looked into it, I won't be taking it in for warranty most likely and there is an app called triangle away to reset boot counter if so.
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I didn't not know about that. Doesn't it just effect the device for warranty purposes. It just voids warranty after a certain amount of flashes?
Edit: just looked into it, I won't be taking it in for warranty most likely and there is an app called triangle away to reset boot counter if so.
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Yeah that's true... but IMHO its pretty idiotic thing (on part of Samsung)... Compared to it unlocking the bootloader is much easier...
But only if I could S-Off my device
Yea I would like this One X+ a lot more of we had s-off or HTC didn't lock it down so much. The One doesnt have these issues. HTC had to face the brink of corporate failure before they provided a device like the One. I feel a little duped by HTC.
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Contemplating on buying the E970,
been comparing it with the Nexus 4 and the Xperia SP since they are the only phones I like in my budget. I'd like to know your opinion. I am impressed by the hardware of the phone, but I'd like to know a few things before I make the purchase.
Firstly, will I have issues with the network or any other feature using the AT&T unlocked version in India?
Also, is the notification LED on the E970 RGB?
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LED is red only
...and it's an awesome phone with lots of life left with the right XDA support.
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The development for the device will not stop until the Nexus 4 development stops, huh? Because they are practically the same phone.. correct me if I am wrong.
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For the most part you are correct
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One last question, does the Optimus G Pro have a good development support here in XDA?
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Please for your own good, get the Nexus 4. Either that or live in the Nexus 4's shadow. If i could go back, I'd get the N4, you get pure and stable roms from Google and of course, you get updates faster
At this point in time, considering what the LGOG brings to the table vs the Nexus 4, I wouldn't buy a Nexus 4 but that's just me personally. Can't tolerate devices without expandable storage myself, so the microSD card slot on the LGOG just makes it a must-buy vs the Nexus 4, not to mention the addition of actual LTE support without jumping through hoops to get it working.
And considering even the Nexus 4 is now in a holding pattern of sorts to get the factory KitKat image, being a "Nexus device" isn't helping it be any better than the LGOG at all.
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Please for your own good, get the Nexus 4. Either that or live in the Nexus 4's shadow. If i could go back, I'd get the N4, you get pure and stable roms from Google and of course, you get updates faster
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I don't get this idea of shadowing. If such way of thinking is correct, then every device is in nexus's shadow. I think the goal is to have a good working phone at the end of the day. This phone has a good variety of roms to help you get there: official supports of CM, Pacman, slim, all the unofficials and the very good stock rom. Also this uses sd card, nexus doesn't
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I don't get this idea of shadowing. If such way of thinking is correct, then every device is in nexus's shadow. I think the goal is to have a good working phone at the end of the day. This phone has a good variety of roms to help you get there: official supports of CM, Pacman, slim, all the unofficials and the very good stock rom. Also this uses sd card, nexus doesn't
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Sounds like your mind is already made up lol. Good luck
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Sounds like your mind is already made up lol. Good luck
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Yep, made up 3 months ago. You should get rid of your OG if you got one so you don't have to be in the shadow
Dolby Audio really?
The sound on E970 SUCKS! I use a headphone amplifier but even with that the sound is crap. Dolby Audio really? I miss having a removable battery. Lastly, when the phone gets hot, there is a built in cap that limits the brightness of the screen. (Live in SoCal High Desert with summer temps of 110 F)
The quad core is fast and can handle quite a bit at one time. I listen to music while playing games, reading emails, cruzin' the Play Store and the internet all at the same time. Haven't had any crashes yet. There is plenty of storage internal storage. I have a lot of downloaded music and a few large games and have yet to roll over to the 16 GB external card.
Biggest disappointment is definitely the sound!!!!!!
Loving my LGOG. The sound is a bit weak. But everything else is great. I would recommend getting a best buy type warranty or a case for your phone. Gorilla glass is slippery like wet snot. I've had the back glass beak twice due to the phone sliding away and falling.
I'd buy it again.
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Coming from an HTC device before this one, the sound is not that great but it works for me. Also the camera is not a big deal. Basically the same as the nexus 4.
I'm have been using houstonn kitkat for over a week and battery life is greater than stock and performance is awesome!
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el_venga said:
Coming from an HTC device before this one, the sound is not that great but it works for me. Also the camera is not a big deal. Basically the same as the nexus 4.
I'm have been using houstonn kitkat for over a week and battery life is greater than stock and performance is awesome!
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I had a HTC too, hated s-on and the whole s-off process. Did you have to use controlbear and do the wire trick ?
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I had a HTC too, hated s-on and the whole s-off process. Did you have to use controlbear and do the wire trick ?
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i had HTC One VX with s-off practically since day one. there are very few custom roms for that model and only one aosp like which was cm10 but very early build. s-off is very easy, no need to do wire trick but i have done it to other older models like Vivid and Amaze.
i really missed stock android for months until i got my lg e970
Sorry, but would someone explain in brief what S-Off and S-On mean?
Also, I'm considering getting the Optimus G Pro instead because I find the looks more appealing and few extra pros over the E970. But the development there seems more or less stalled. Gotta risk it, I guess.
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Sorry, but would someone explain in brief what S-Off and S-On mean?
Also, I'm considering getting the Optimus G Pro instead because I find the looks more appealing and few extra pros over the E970. But the development there seems more or less stalled. Gotta risk it, I guess.
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I'll try, others feel free to add upon this. Different manufacturers use different mechanism to secure their devices. With htc its "security-on", it restrict what hboot you may run on your devices. I had an htc evo v/ htc evo 3d, with security-on I could only run hboot 1.07.07.07 whatever which only allowed stock based ics roms. After achieving s-off I was able to put a different hboot on my phone , i had jbear 1.47.47.47 i think.. which in terms allowed me to run a lot more roms. S-on also restrict what you may flash. For example firmware and radios, here we call it modem? Don't know the difference, can't be flashed with s-on.