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Retweet this https://twitter.com/xboxfanj/status/263413673643630593
And send this to all applicable LG support channels
Why are you alienating the development enthusiasts with your Optimus G? It has unparalleled hardware, but the locked bootloader makes it a tough sell for myself and the development enthusiasts at XDA, RootzWiki, and many more sites, and it also makes me unlikely to recommend it to my friends and family who go to me for advice on their technological purchases (and people who go to other development experts around the world). Samsung has unlocked bootloaders. Motorola and HTC have unlockable bootloaders. Now, it's time to step it up, LG and follow suit. I know you don't want me and millions of people like me to buy from your competitors. So fix it!
I really want to buy your Optimus G and have the beautiful design and amazing S4 Pro processor, but if I have to forfeit that to be able to use my phone how I would like, that's a sacrifice I am willing to make.
There are 1,310 people and counting who have signed this petition asking for an unlockable bootloader, so get your act together, LG.
http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-...opportunity-to-unlock-bootloader-in-lg-phones
This could propel you ahead of Samsung, Apple, and HTC, since your hardware at the moment is by far the best, but your software, updates, and developer support are lacking. An unlockable bootloader would end these complaints and make hundreds of thousands of people more likely to buy an Optimus G.
And don't forget to sign this petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-...opportunity-to-unlock-bootloader-in-lg-phones
Together, we can make LG change.
Together, we can make the Optimus G a better phone.
Let's unite and make LG unlock those bootloaders, just as consumers have made HTC and Motorola do the same.
This too: https://twitter.com/xboxfanj/status/263415788218753024
And send that to their other channels as well. The more people that send this, the more likely it is that LG will acquiesce.
Here is the response I got from LG's email:
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The bootloader is locked, Jake, at the Carrier's request I'm afraid.
If you are looking for a Developer device, however, then you can look forward to a device that Google should be announcing sometime this week.
So sorry about the inconvenience this has caused, and I hope you have a great day!
That's BS since Sprint, my carrier, doesn't have any locked devices.
I told them that and haven't heard back yet.
Yes! we need this to get in the google search rankings, so android owners (non lg) can even participate. If anyone has some clout with any android news sites, etc, please flex that muscle!!
svntsvn said:
Yes! we need this to get in the google search rankings, so android owners (non lg) can even participate. If anyone has some clout with any android news sites, etc, please flex that muscle!!
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Ooh great idea. I will try to take care of that.
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Over on the LG optimus g forum a few spots above thus in they are really close to unlocking this. They have everything so it's a matter of time now. I don't do this stuff anymore but I'm happy for this.
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Over on the LG optimus g forum a few spots above thus in they are really close to unlocking this. They have everything so it's a matter of time now. I don't do this stuff anymore but I'm happy for this.
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Yep. Its almost unlocked. Sextape hooked thecubed up with some leaked files and thecubed is using those to hack the bootloader.
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Yep. Its almost unlocked. Sextape hooked thecubed up with some leaked files and thecubed is using those to hack the bootloader.
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The minute after it DOES get unlocked, LG gets some of my money. Of course, the Nexus 4 is right around the corner, but I figure buying this model is the better long-term acquisition because of the massive upside.
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The minute after it DOES get unlocked, LG gets some of my money. Of course, the Nexus 4 is right around the corner, but I figure buying this model is the better long-term acquisition because of the massive upside.
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If you feel generous, maybe support the people who helped make it happen: primarily thecubed and sextape and also kmdm and shellnut2 and one more guy, who I forget.
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If you feel generous, maybe support the people who helped make it happen: primarily thecubed and sextape and also kmdm and shellnut2 and one more guy, who I forget.
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I will probably do so next week. The wife gets a little angry when I donate too often, and I donated to help a guy who got scammed in the MP this week.
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I will probably do so next week. The wife gets a little angry when I donate too often, and I donated to help a guy who got scammed in the MP this week.
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That's very nice of you.
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Locked bootloader eh? That's a deal breaker.
And if they do unlock it eventually they'll probably impose some method of being able to tell it's been unlocked, like my Vivid's "relocked" text if you relock voiding any chance of a warranty claim if it breaks.
Bummer. Really figured this phone might be better than the nexus 4 since it's pretty much identical but has more storage, an sd and lte. If it was unlocked, you could pretty much make it a nexus with no compromises.
Also pretty pathetic it only has 4.03 on it. What's with manufacturers releasing new phones with outdated oses on it?
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I want to see how many are interested in this phone coming from a non-LG background. I come from a Samsung and HTC background.
Please vote everyone. Thanks.
Thinking about it, to replace my Galaxy Nexus. But since Ive never touched an LG smartphone Im not sure what (if?) the status of "third party" development would be like. Ive also never seen their overlays over Android so Im not sure what Ill be in for.
But, Snapdragon 800 makes up for some of that
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Thinking about it, to replace my Galaxy Nexus. But since Ive never touched an LG smartphone Im not sure what (if?) the status of "third party" development would be like. Ive also never seen their overlays over Android so Im not sure what Ill be in for.
But, Snapdragon 800 makes up for some of that
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In a way this poll should also reflect the status/extent of third party development. Thanks for your participation.
I'm picking up the LG. I've had all HTC 's and Samsung's. I'd have the Optimus G PRO for a couple months and loved it. It was a tremendous phone. IMO. I just hope the development community come through. I think with it being on all carriers it will.
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Always been with samsung but their design has become stagnet for me. Ready for something new to play with. Just hope the G2 lives up to hype its been receiving. I will have mine on Tuesday.
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Will be my first LG since the Dare - if that counts. I usually sport a Samsung or Apple but am currently running a Lumia 928. WP8 has a long ways to go! Looking forward to the G2!
I've had every HTC Android that Sprint carried, but switched to the Nexus 4 in February, so the G2 won't be my first LG device, but it will be my first LG device with LG software on it. I'm looking forward to this phone.
Just pre-ordered it, I have had my HTC Amaze 4G for a bit now and the LG G2 will be a huge leap, in terms of specs! lol This will be my first LG experience! Hope for the best!
I've used the Charge, GNex, Rezound, Maxx, DNA, S3, Note 2, Maxx HD, and the S4. This will be my first LG. I'm not too worried about the bootloader being locked down. The navigation keys are movable and most of the other things I'll want to change can be done just by being rooted,
first LG here since the LG env touch lol. my smartphones were all htc and samsung... eris, incredible, rezound, gnex, s3, dna, s4...so this is my first LG too.
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Will be my first LG phone too. Had HTC, Motorola, a lot of Samsung devices but never LG. The only thing that worries me is the availability of custom ROMs and mods, but I guess that it's still to early to judge.
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XanoZuke said:
Will be my first LG phone too. Had HTC, Motorola, a lot of Samsung devices but never LG. The only thing that worries me is the availability of custom ROMs and mods, but I guess that it's still to early to judge.
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I dont think any LG phone has gotten so much "must have" responses, so I would be suprised if we dont get lots of roms. Especially if Nexus 5 will be based on it.
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I dont think any LG phone has gotten so much "must have" responses, so I would be suprised if we dont get lots of roms. Especially if Nexus 5 will be based on it.
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I concur.
Look who won the best android phone. LG G2. Unbelievable. Deserves the win though.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-...here-now-which-one-is-it-poll-results_id47231
Now i am more confident about 3rd party ROM development. One more week to go.
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Look who won the best android phone. LG G2. Unbelievable. Deserves the win though.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-...here-now-which-one-is-it-poll-results_id47231
Now i am more confident about 3rd party ROM development. One more week to go.
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Well a couple hours for me, some already got their ATT variants this morning..my FedEx guybis slow I guess lol.
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Well a couple hours for me, some already got their ATT variants this morning..my FedEx guybis slow I guess lol.
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Really lucky you bro.. I didn't realize they were shipping them right away. Good news.
Could you please share your experience about
Knock knock
Music player sound quality
Camera
Screen quality
If possible open a new thread for AT&T phones(just a suggestion). Just so all AT&T experiences fall in one place. Developers can figure out the missing features too.
I am going to switch from my note 2. I really love my note 2 but the size after a year is starting to get to me a bit. 5 inch screens look funny to me because of them being narrow and tall and I love the bigger screen in the small form factor. Great specs and great size. I will miss my note, but the lag, crappy gps, terrible amoled screen, and the slightly too big size are starting to turn me off.
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Well a couple hours for me, some already got their ATT variants this morning..my FedEx guybis slow I guess lol.
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So after using it a bit, do you feel like you want to pick the S4 back up or are you totally satisfied with the G2.
Personally I cant remember the last time I was so excited about a phone. I remember when I went to the S4 from the note 2 and I really just couldn't get excited about it at all. It didnt feel like an upgrade.
Heres hoping the G2 can win me over...
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Nope dont feel the urge to pick up my S4, One, or Nexus.
Looks many people have/bought this now. So please vote. Thanks.
Yeah, hi there. Some of you might know me. Due to my unfortunate experiences with this device (mainly my seemingly impossible bootloader that I've tried twenty different ways), I'm considering getting a new device. In particular, a Windows Phone. I hate Microsoft and I really like Android, but I'm willing to drop a few hundred dollars on a WP after this. Due to the bootloader on this device, there isn't much for us to develop and contribute.. Other then help others with the bootloader. Everything seems to be about that and helping people who messed up the flashing. So I just wanted to say that I might be leaving soon. I'll still be here if you need anything ^-^
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I'll be choosing Nexus phones from now on. This is just crazy hard and ridiculous to pull off. And I'm convinced this is done for profit.
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I'll probably be looking at samsung. It's a shame. I had the mytouch4g for over 2 years. There were so many roms and devs on the forum. I thought it would be the same with this one just with a bigger screen. I knew lg was a bad choice.
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Same here will0889, imma start getting Samsung for now on.
Preferably an S2 or S3 and get PAC ROM on it, looks pretty bad ass on them Galaxies ^.^
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I echo all of your sentiments. It's just disappointing.
I just left the L9 for the G2, and It's night and day. Seems like LG has no problems listening to users for the top shelf phones, but could care less about the mid to low end ones.
Yeah the G2 is beautiful. I'm not sure what phone I'll get next but I'll be sticking with the android camp. Was fortunate to unlock the bootloader. I didn't have a choice but to get this one, and if I did, I probably would've chose the Nexus 4.
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I hear you
My model is unlockable but mine specifically i never succed in unlocking.. My new phone is already comming, a Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE. I'm not sure i will install any custom ROMs but at least i will have the chance to try them on. Right now i'm stucked with L9 locked and ICS. Really desapointing. I hope soon all phones will have an option to the user to unlock their bootloader, because HEY, I WANT to lost my warranty and install anything i want, its MY phone, right?
Thanks for your contributing with us along your L9 lifetime. Good luck next time for us all
So you hate Microsoft and love Android, and you will buy a WP. Nice logic there
Jokes aside, the fact that you had a bad experience with an unlockable bootloader doesnt mean that every other phone will be the same. Also with WP you wont be able to change anything aside from the color and the size of the tiles, which is very sad. Just go with a Nexus or a investigate a bit about the scene of the device before you buy it. I had a Moto Defy with locked bootloader before my L9-P778g (which i unlocked very easily) but i even managed to make a ROM for it by myself. Heck, it even haves more ROMs than the L9 with an unlocked bootloader... So you should not be so drastic and chage a restricted device for a even more restricted one with a restrictive OS....
LG is a good company I like my p760 and my G2 is just awesome it's not because of LG it's cos of your carrier T mobile they have locked the bootloader stop complaining about LG even nexus 4 is built by LG remember...
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mussi96 said:
LG is a good company I like my p760 and my G2 is just awesome it's not because of LG it's cos of your carrier T mobile they have locked the bootloader stop complaining about LG even nexus 4 is built by LG remember...
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Exactly this. ANY android phone manufacturer will lock their bootloader upon carrier request. Samsung does it, HTC does it, Sony does it, Motorola does it. I have the t mobile version of the l9, yeah the bootloader was a pain in the ass to unlock but the phone was very much worth the $180 I paid for it.
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Exactly this. ANY android phone manufacturer will lock their bootloader upon carrier request. Samsung does it, HTC does it, Sony does it, Motorola does it. I have the t mobile version of the l9, yeah the bootloader was a pain in the ass to unlock but the phone was very much worth the $180 I paid for it.
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You were one of the lucky ones. Locking bootloaders violates the AOSP guidelines, Google needs to step up.
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The L9 P769 ruined any chance of me getting another Optimus. Sorry LG. Good quality, yes....I just hate how carriers can have so much control over a device.
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The P760 has a locked bootloader as well and it is not carrier branded.
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The P760 has a locked bootloader as well and it is not carrier branded.
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The nexus 4 has a locked bootloader too, whats your point? You have the option to unlock it though, just like the L9. T mobile removed this feature, not LG.
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The P760 has a locked bootloader as well and it is not carrier branded.
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P760 is easily unlockable as the nexus 4 ..
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My p760 is unlockable...
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P760 is easily unlockable as the nexus 4 ..
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My god, I was not aware of this. My apologies. -Time to unlock BL :silly: -
Edit: Well anyways my next phone is either a samsung or nexus device, LG neglects its mid-rangers too much.
Samsung is also guilty of neglect. Sidekick 4G is still on Froyo. LMAO.
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Think i will live too, i'll probably get a Note 2 But I'll still keep L9
Here is the info and the links:
Louki_Louki via Amazon offers the Unlocked LG Optimus G E970 4G LTE GSM Android Smartphone for $189.95 with free shipping. (Breed via eBay and sigmacellular via eBay have it for a few pennies more.) That's $7 under the lowest total price we could find for an unlocked version and $310 under the best price we could find for a no-contract version elsewhere. It features a 4.7" 768x1280 touchscreen LCD, Qualcomm 1.5GHz quad-core processor, 16GB internal memory, 2GB RAM,8-megapixel rear-facing camera, 1.3-megapixel front-facing camera, 4G LTE, 802.11n wireless, Bluetooth 4.0, and Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich).
Links:
link 1 ( $189.95 )
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...dealnewscom&ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A271W0S0PRILZ6
link 2 ( US $199.99 )
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-Optimus-G-E970-Unlocked-GSM-Android-Cell-Phone-Black/350976364795
Link 3 (US $189.99)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-In-Box-...4G-LTE-Android-SmartPhone-Black-/350977035701
P.S : DO NOT KNOW WHEN THEY WILL EXPIRE .
Yes amazing deal but anyone know when it will expire?
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I just picked one up, I was wondering if these phones are factory unlocked. Meaning that if we upgraded to jelly bean or installed a custom rom, would it still be unlocked? Thanks
joemanbui said:
I just picked one up, I was wondering if these phones are factory unlocked. Meaning that if we upgraded to jelly bean or installed a custom rom, would it still be unlocked? Thanks
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It stays unlocked regardless of what ROM you're using.
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It stays unlocked regardless of what ROM you're using.
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That's what I've heard but the seller Breed gave me this response.
"No, the original settings for the phone is locked settings, unlocking it bypasses those settings.
However, if any updates or upgrades are made, it makes the phone go back to original settings, which would be locked settings."
Would it be safe to use a teenybin or should I leave my phone alone?
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That's what I've heard but the seller Breed gave me this response.
"No, the original settings for the phone is locked settings, unlocking it bypasses those settings.
However, if any updates or upgrades are made, it makes the phone go back to original settings, which would be locked settings."
Would it be safe to use a teenybin or should I leave my phone alone?
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I never used that, I just followed the root guide that involves freegee app.
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I never used that, I just followed the root guide that involves freegee app.
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If I unlock with freegee, that means I can't flash jelly bean Roms right?
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I purchased mine thanks to this deal too, anxiously awaiting it from the Amazon seller.
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If I unlock with freegee, that means I can't flash jelly bean Roms right?
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No. I tried jb but kk is better on this.
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Honestly, I would avoid buying an LGOG at this point because it does not receive much support from LG and is too old to be covered under manufacturer's warranty.
DarthGoldstein said:
Honestly, I would avoid buying an LGOG at this point because it does not receive much support from LG and is too old to be covered under manufacturer's warranty.
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Honestly, its still a good price. Especially for people who may develop for it, or enjoy modding their phone. Kind of like the majority of people who visit this forum. I don't know about you, but my warranty was void 10 minutes after I removed it from the box.
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Honestly, its still a good price. Especially for people who may develop for it, or enjoy modding their phone. Kind of like the majority of people who visit this forum. I don't know about you, but my warranty was void 10 minutes after I removed it from the box.
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I agree, and my phone LGOG has the bootloader unlocked, is carrier unlocked, rooted, and is running a custom rom. However, there is much less development for the LGOG then for many other phones. I would suggest getting a Nexus 4 since it is almost the same exact hardware, similar price, and receives A LOT of support from Google. But, this is just one opinion. If you really like the LGOG and like developing for it then that is your preference and I certainly respect that.
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone in this forum for creating and supporting development of the G2. LG may not support this phone anymore, but this forum holds strong. That said I am investigating potential upgrades for the G2. I would like suggestions. The following phones will not work:
- Phones that don't support Verizon
- Phones without strong developer communities
- Phones released more than a year ago
Thanks everyone!
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First of all, I'd like to thank everyone in this forum for creating and supporting development of the G2. LG may not support this phone anymore, but this forum holds strong. That said I am investigating potential upgrades for the G2. I would like suggestions. The following phones will not work:
- Phones that don't support Verizon
- Phones without strong developer communities
- Phones released more than a year ago
Thanks everyone!
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Your biggest issue will be the Developer support on a Verizon device. Verizon devices tend to see ALOT less development then GSM based devices. If you liked the G2 then why not get the G3 or G4?
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Your biggest issue will be the Developer support on a Verizon device. Verizon devices tend to see ALOT less development then GSM based devices. If you liked the G2 then why not get the G3 or G4?
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Thanks for the reply. The G3 is too old and the G4 is too big.
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Thanks for the reply. The G3 is too old and the G4 is too big.
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With the state of hardware right now any device released within the past 3 years is still a good device. They will handle anything a new device will. Could look at the moto droid, Not really sure what else verizon has to offer really as there is no Verizon in the State I live in.
Even if LG had dropped support before releasing lollipop, the G2 could still handle 99.7% of everything you throw at it smoothly.
Compare the G2 to new devices. You have 1080P which looks great and doesnt drain the battery. 3000mAh battery, more or same as latest devices. Compare snapdragon 800 to 808/810 and you will only see a good difference in benchmarks. 5.2" screen thats neither too big nor small.
LG did great on the G2, if not too great since upgrades to this day still dont appeal.
Enjoy your G2 and buy something else
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Even if LG had dropped support before releasing lollipop, the G2 could still handle 99.7% of everything you throw at it smoothly.
Compare the G2 to new devices. You have 1080P which looks great and doesnt drain the battery. 3000mAh battery, more or same as latest devices. Compare snapdragon 800 to 808/810 and you will only see a good difference in benchmarks. 5.2" screen thats neither too big nor small.
LG did great on the G2, if not too great since upgrades to this day still dont appeal.
Enjoy your G2 and buy something else
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Agreed but to be honest who relies on OEM updates anyway. lol
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Agreed but to be honest who relies on OEM updates anyway. lol
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Most people outside XDA
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Most people outside XDA
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Yeah but we are not outside xda are we? Lol
OEM updates are not reliable. The OEM could push an update to the carrier but the carrier never release the update to users. This happens more then people know. Verizon and att are well known for doing this.
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Yeah but we are not outside xda are we? Lol
OEM updates are not reliable. The OEM could push an update to the carrier but the carrier never release the update to users. This happens more then people know. Verizon and att are well known for doing this.
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How about a Nexus 6? That's my dream phone, lol. Plenty of development, 1st to receive updates, rootable, and runs on Verizon.
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How about a Nexus 6? That's my dream phone, lol. Plenty of development, 1st to receive updates, rootable, and runs on Verizon.
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Too big. If we get a Nexus 5 2015 that'll be perfect
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My only other thought for something fast and not all that big would be the Droid Turbo. Not sure how locked up it is however. When I use to have the old razr we would use safestrap, but never had a true unlocked bootloader....
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