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Hey guys, I currently have the Samsung Galaxy S4 and I'm planning on replacing it with either the Nexus 5 or the G2. I still can't decide which phone to choose. I like the fast updates on the Nexus 5, as well as the UI, however they can be gotten as well through custom roms. On G2, I like the slightly bigger screen, the edge to edge feel of it (it's more noticeable on the G2 than on the N5), removable battery and sd card support (and maybe the camera too). So, as you might notice, I'm leaning more towards the G2. I just want to know how the AOSP scene is on G2 (since I definitely won't be sticking with LG's OS)? Are the bugs pretty much ironed out? Does it get fairly fast updates too (like, how long after KitKat went out did G2 get a KitKat rom)? I assume the pretty identical specs of both phones helped out G2's development, or am I wrong?
So anyway, thanks in advance to whoever answers my questions
PS: Just want to know how G2 is doing in AOSP Development as compared to N5. Please don't make this a straight-up comparison. Thanks
Ask the same question in N5 general IMO you are probably going to get more development for the N5. But the ROMs here are pretty good.
I went for the G2 because you can always change software, but you are stuck with the hardware.
I prefer the long battery life, the better camera and the overall design of the G2. I don't know your needs though.
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Well, the mods are going to close this thread soon, but go with the G2. We already have a stock 4.4 rom (check original section), with additional mods getting made to it. So, updates really shouldn't be a problem... But if want official updates then lol. LG probably rolls out updates slower than any company out here, even for their flagship phones.
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Well, that won't be a problem, since I have no interest whatsoever in using LG's OS lol. Thanks for your input. Hope the mods don't close this, at least for a little while longer
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Ask the same question in N5 general IMO you are probably going to get more development for the N5. But the ROMs here are pretty good.
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Well, I doubt N5's users would know how G2's development is stacking up compared to theirs
The phones cost the same here in my country, I think the 32GB version of the Nexus 5 (which isn't available yet, only the 16GB) would be even more expensive than the 32GB G2. So just a couple of questions: Are there still bugs in the 4.4 ROM of G2? And how long after 4.4 went out did G2 get it? 1 week? 2 weeks? LOL
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Well, that won't be a problem, since I have no interest whatsoever in using LG's OS lol. Thanks for your input. Hope the mods don't close this, at least for a little while longer
Well, I doubt N5's users would know how G2's development is stacking up compared to theirs
The phones cost the same here in my country, I think the 32GB version of the Nexus 5 (which isn't available yet, only the 16GB) would be even more expensive than the 32GB G2. So just a couple of questions: Are there still bugs in the 4.4 ROM of G2? And how long after 4.4 went out did G2 get it? 1 week? 2 weeks? LOL
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I don't think we know that much more about N5 development than they do about G2 development
The first 4.4 alpha ROM arrived last thursday. It still has bugs, but I have used it as a daily driver. The only problem that I had was that it wouldn't run ART yet. There may be other problems that I didn't run into. But it still says alpha so it's not completely done yet
You can read the discussion if you want to learn more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789
ive had both and G2 is better imo
there's something about the N5 screen, its just not as nice as the G2
anyway, have a play with both and make your own mind up, its the only way!
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there's something about the N5 screen,
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Exactly. That was one of my reason to chose the G2 above the N5 as well. Compared 4 N5s from colleagues with a G2 and all the N5 Screens looked bit odd compared to the G2.
And i +1 that "you can change Software but you can't change Hardware"
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Exactly. That was one of my reason to chose the G2 above the N5 as well. Compared 4 N5s from colleagues with a G2 and all the N5 Screens looked bit odd compared to the G2.
And i +1 that "you can change Software but you can't change Hardware"
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G2 the best.
g2 is better for me. camera, and especially the most important thing is the battery. this thing is a beast. what good a phone is if you're often attached to a wall charger.
G2 With pa 4.0, is better than nexus 5,better battery, screen and câmera
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...you can always change software, but you are stuck with the hardware.
I prefer the long battery life, the better camera and the overall design of the G2.
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I think this pretty much sums it up. These were exactly my thoughts when I was deciding between the two also, and that's not even mentioning the IR blaster and soem nice featires the LG ROM has that you might like (knock on and off, QSlide apps, etc.)
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IR blaster
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OP wants to run AOSP, so I just thought I would mention that the IR blaster app is ported to AOSP based ROMs and it works fine.
The camera app is also ported with a few bugs but mostly working.
Thanks for all your input guys!
Well, looks like I'll be joining you guys sometime soon I just checked this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512881 and even with all the obvious fanboyism of the N5 owner's, they all agree that the N5's battery is bad. Almost every thread I read there, I see someone complaining with his battery life. Lol )
Just hope G2's development doesn't let me down
EDIT: I do have one more question though. Is it true that the screen is much brighter on the N5 than on the G2? Or is it only because of the software? Is the screen on G2 AOSP as bright as on the N5?
fyre31 said:
Thanks for all your input guys!
Well, looks like I'll be joining you guys sometime soon I just checked this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512881 and even with all the obvious fanboyism of the N5 owner's, they all agree that the N5's battery is bad. Almost every thread I read there, I see someone complaining with his battery life. Lol )
Just hope G2's development doesn't let me down
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Here is the thing... The Nexus 5 is for folks that want the latest AOSP. But to be honest, I don't see what the difference is. AOSP looks dated and bland, and it makes your new phone look like every other AOSP phone. To me the appeal is not there.
The stock LG UI has more features and functionality. It's a better OS. Yes, there are ROM's, but at the end of the day what do they bring? Few points in a benchmark?
They are typically less featured(because some things end up not being supported properly), they typically have bugs and require workarounds or sacrificing of features, and are less stable.
If your phone is a tool that you rely on daily, get the G2 and leave it stock. It is amazing.
If you just want a toy to tinker with and occasionally make calls or do work, then get the N5 and ROM till your heart's content.
Just swapped the N5 for a G2, why? Well mainly because the N5 has terrible quality issues right now. I had 5 with poor screens, dead pixels and dust under the screen. The G2 software is very odd after running stock, but a few mods here and there have fixed that. No quality issues and its running very nicely, the screen is lovely.
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fyre31 said:
Thanks for all your input guys!
Well, looks like I'll be joining you guys sometime soon I just checked this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512881 and even with all the obvious fanboyism of the N5 owner's, they all agree that the N5's battery is bad. Almost every thread I read there, I see someone complaining with his battery life. Lol )
Just hope G2's development doesn't let me down
EDIT: I do have one more question though. Is it true that the screen is much brighter on the N5 than on the G2? Or is it only because of the software? Is the screen on G2 AOSP as bright as on the N5?
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The G2 is brighter if anything, but its control software is a bit odd. Auto doesnt seem to do much, but 100% is eye burningly bright.
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Here is the thing... The Nexus 5 is for folks that want the latest AOSP. But to be honest, I don't see what the difference is. AOSP looks dated and bland, and it makes your new phone look like every other AOSP phone. To me the appeal is not there.
The stock LG UI has more features and functionality. It's a better OS. Yes, there are ROM's, but at the end of the day what do they bring? Few points in a benchmark?
They are typically less featured(because some things end up not being supported properly), they typically have bugs and require workarounds or sacrificing of features, and are less stable.
If your phone is a tool that you rely on daily, get the G2 and leave it stock. It is amazing.
If you just want a toy to tinker with and occasionally make calls or do work, then get the N5 and ROM till your heart's content.
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I personally don't like LG's OS and have no intention of using it at least for long. I've balanced flashing and using my phone as a phone since the days of my Spica. I've liked AOSP for a long time now but has always been put off by the hardware (where Google always seems to put something below the standards) of the Nexus line. At least until the N5, and even then people are complaining of its battery life. So I thought I should look into its "sibling", the LG G2.
Besides, what would I be doing on XDA if I just buy a phone and leave it as it is? lol
I've had both (I'm on Sprint.) I decided to stick with the LG-G2 because it's so nice. Screen size, colors, battery, camera, buttons on the back, and double tap to turn on/off. The G2 is just a better device, however, if you're planning on getting your next device for development, the N5 will win hands down because it's a universal phone (3 of the 4 major U.S. carriers can use the same model number.
Although, the G2's current development isn't lacking, either (unless you're on Sprint).
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I currently have a GS3 with CM11 4.4.2 and I'm thinking of upgrading. I've been doing some research and my two options are Nexus 5 or LG G2. I know well the differences, but I was wondering how the LG G2 with Kitkat compares to the Nexus 5?
I don't really care about the camera (as long as it works). I usually have Tasker, BT (synced with my G-Shock watch) and BitTorrent Sync running 24/7 (I know the G2 has a bigger battery that I could use, but I'm wondering if it makes that big of a difference).
Any feedback is welcomed.
Thanks,
Vic.
N5
horrible.speakers, and washed out display
G2
Perfect hardware
But software is way behind
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N5
horrible.speakers, and washed out display
G2
Perfect hardware
But software is way behind
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IMO n5 display looks better than g2.
Nexus 4, 4.4.2, franco, ART
hamad138 said:
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I heard that with the G2 people have problems hearing you... well, the same post reported the same on the N5, but the G2 was worse.
Seriously thou, who uses their cell phones to make calls? ;-p
victorbrca said:
I don't really care about the camera (as long as it works).
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then LG G2 is best for you
victorbrca said:
I currently have a GS3 with CM11 4.4.2 and I'm thinking of upgrading. I've been doing some research and my two options are Nexus 5 or LG G2. I know well the differences, but I was wondering how the LG G2 with Kitkat compares to the Nexus 5?
I don't really care about the camera (as long as it works). I usually have Tasker, BT (synced with my G-Shock watch) and BitTorrent Sync running 24/7 (I know the G2 has a bigger battery that I could use, but I'm wondering if it makes that big of a difference).
Any feedback is welcomed.
Thanks,
Vic.
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I got the LG G2 less than a month ago. I've been asking myself that question since I got it (G2 vs N5).
I almost regretted getting the G2 but the battery is too good. I ended up flashing custom ROMs instead of waiting for LG's OTA and I am SO glad I did.
This phone now feels like a Nexus 5 in every way except for the shell. I put on ParanoidAndroid and it works flawlessly. The sweet part is I get to have the latest stock 4.4.2 android with no bloatware, and I still have the large battery of the LG G2.
I held both in my hand before I made a decision. I was really dead set on getting a Nexus 5 because it was so much cheaper (plus I was coming from the N4 which I loved), but something about it didn't vibe with me. There was a sharp edge that dug into the heel of my hand on the back of the N5. Not painful, but enough to make me aware of it which is also enough to annoy. The G2 was more comfortable.
So I went with the G2 with the intention of flashing it to an AOSP rom. I regret some things--I would have really loved to keep wireless charging of the N5, plus the material on the back of the Nexus 5 beats the material on the back of the G2 by a mile in my eyes. But I could never be happy with a device that I wasn't totally comfortable using.
That said, a family member has a Nexus 5 so I get to play with both. While the N5 has features I would have prefered keeping, I don't regret my decision to go with the G2 instead. It's a great device.
I actually had the nexus 5 and traded fir a g2. The battery difference is amazing. I get almost double the screen time with the g2. The camera and screen on g2 are also nicer and then all the other stuff is Pretty much the same (besides software obviously) and the nexus 5 is a tiny bit smaller. I also don't really like the buttons on the g2 but I have the verizon version so they are smaller than normal. At least they don't rattle like a lot of the nexus 5 ones. A case helps a lot with finding the buttons easier. Overall I prefer the g2 because of the bigger battery and nicer screen. The nexus 5 has yellowish tint thigh I didn't really notice until trying the g2. The nexus 5 was better for me in terms of looks which I thought were nicer though I cover it with a case anyway and the software was smoother. Coming front an s3 you'll find the g2 great and I'd go with that one. Flash a cushion Rom and it'll be a better version of the nexus 5 imo. Hope this helps
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if you have to ask then just go with the nexus 5.....because you obviously dont know the importance of owning the G2 so you will not miss it.
victorbrca said:
I heard that with the G2 people have problems hearing you... well, the same post reported the same on the N5, but the G2 was worse.
Seriously thou, who uses their cell phones to make calls? ;-p
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Never had this problem with my G2. People have praised the audio quality from my phone for the 5 months or so I've had it
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marsisabar said:
I got the LG G2 less than a month ago. I've been asking myself that question since I got it (G2 vs N5).
I almost regretted getting the G2 but the battery is too good. I ended up flashing custom ROMs instead of waiting for LG's OTA and I am SO glad I did.
This phone now feels like a Nexus 5 in every way except for the shell. I put on ParanoidAndroid and it works flawlessly. The sweet part is I get to have the latest stock 4.4.2 android with no bloatware, and I still have the large battery of the LG G2.
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This
I came from a GNex running cm 10.1 and the g2 is a thousand times better. there are things I miss not having or being able to easily configure on the stock Rom but I don't think I could be
any happier with it. it's not super over the top like touchwiz and even the stock launcher has allowed me not to install nova prime. I'm on vzw so my version has wireless charging.
the battery life of the g2 is simply amazing. this is my first phone without a removable battery and I do not worry about running out of juice later in the day. nor do I have to change my usage habits or carry spare batteries. the battery is going to last the entire day, period.
the knock on feature let's u forget about the button placement entirely. I still use my gn on my wireless network and find myself tapping the screen to turn it on every single time. it's something every phone should have.
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Originally i got G2 because my gnex was beyond dead and on Tmobile jump I could get N5 when it came out. Now not happening i will either get the G3 or G2 in white. Not worth it to switch. Aosp was my main reason for n5 but with all the dev support for g2 i get aosp plus now i know i have the better screen and battery life on the g2! Cheers!
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If the camera isn't a big deal then honestly it's a question of battery and software. I don't really think the buttons make a huge difference, especially with double tap to wake. As a Verizon customer, I was not able to consider the Nexus, but as an incredibly heavy user of my phone, I wouldn't switch to the Nexus even if I could, the battery on this phone is just too fantastic. The Verizon variant doesn't sacrifice wireless charging, and I love the camera on it, and the screen is definitely higher end. There is the matter of software. Obviously the Nexus 5 comes out of the box with a pretty much flawless version of the latest of AOSP. The G2 has plenty of custom ROMs that are quite nice. But like with most non-existent devices, there are some minor issues Sometimes due to having older proprietary drivers/binaries. For me it isn't an issue, some of these ROM/kernel combinations are solid as a rock for me. And then there's the stock ROM. Honestly, it's fantastic, probably the best OEM ROM I have ever used. I ran Malladus, a slightly modified version of it for a long time and honestly I only switched because of a few very specific things that I just had customize. Stock/Stock-based + G2 Xposed is a fantastic combination. It's up to you and you know how you use your phone, but for me the battery alone would seal the deal. It's just so liberating to have it and not have to worry about it.
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The only thing that really hinders the G2 is the outdated software otherwise it beats the N5 with a larger battery and better camera. Oh and
I really happen to like the rear facing buttons a whole lot. It makes one handed operation a breeze. Unless of course if you happen to have the vzw version where they changed the buttons and made them smaller and flatter which really sucks if you ask me.
Had the nexus 5 and it was very nice....but the g2 is better...,software is behind...yes...but its not like the gs is running ice cream sandwich.
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Thanks a lot for all the replies everyone. I really like the feel and case of the Nexus 5, and I actually dislike the buttons and the LG logo on the front of the G2. But the battery is a big thing for me as I'm always running a lot of apps in the background. And software is not a biggie because I'll be putting kitkat on it.
Now I just need to make sure my Casio watch is compatible with it.
Thanks again.
Vic.
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One more advantage of g2 is probably accessories like otterbox. You won't find that for nexus 5. I don't use otter box either way but a lot of people care about that thigh I think the case is way too big ans ruins thephone.
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Battery is definitely ridiculously better on the g2 but dev support and true bugless aosp is better on n5 it's all about what you want
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Battery is definitely ridiculously better on the g2 but dev support and true bugless aosp is better on n5 it's all about what you want
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+1 to that but once we get kitkat aosp should improve
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I am on the fence here..Had Note 3 love Amoled but hate Tw and the plastic...I did have the M7 loved it, but camera was bad....Did not like the G3 ...thinking of the M8 or Note 4 ...I don't use the spen and want a premium phone!! Help!!
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I loved my S3 but the M8 is light years ahead of samsung in my opinion. It's fast and just works like it's supposed to. Keep in mind that Samsung is locking all bootloaders and I don't know about you but waiting on safestrap only to flash modded stock roms doesn't do it for me. My only complaint is that it works too well and I don't find myself looking for mods and flashing new things, which is good, but bad if you like that diversion.
I am also comparing the g3 and the m8. Att is swapping out my s5 for another phone of my choice. Both phones seem nice. I guess I need to hit the store and play with them both.
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Intub8 said:
I am also comparing the g3 and the m8. Att is swapping out my s5 for another phone of my choice. Both phones seem nice. I guess I need to hit the store and play with them both.
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I had the G 3 for three days ..did not like it....It's very laggy, heats up quickly..I rooted mine , debloated with xposed and still was slow. Another issue was wireless charging .Att&t only uses pma chargers and they make you buy their charging cover and base....no thanks.....m8 is light years better than the g3.
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A few things
1. I'm going on 2 days without charging and I'm still at 20% - Amazing
2. Just look at the back of the "new" iPhone. Look familiar? Ya, that's what I thought. The design of the M8 is revolutionary.
3. What other cell phone has 2 forward facing speakers? And they sound better that anything out there.
4. Sense 6 is probably the best Android OEM skin ever. I'm with others that say while flashing ROM's is fun and the developers are great and make amazing ROM's but I've not had a reason to unlock and flash.
5. Just go hold one in your hand. Compare it to the plastic feel of other phones. No contest.
GalaxyNotesTx said:
I am on the fence here..Had Note 3 love Amoled but hate Tw and the plastic...I did have the M7 loved it, but camera was bad....Did not like the G3 ...thinking of the M8 or Note 4 ...I don't use the spen and want a premium phone!! Help!!
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I bought a Samsung S 5 Active and an HTC One M8 at the same time, the S5 for my wife as we have different needs.
The S5 camera is better, is more waterproof and I prefer the hard-buttons (home, back, menu/windows.) In every other way, the M8 is better. Even though the S5 has a faster processor, the M8 seems faster. M8 feels slimmer and nicer (than either S5 model), battery lasts nearly double the time. And I happen to really like Dot View (and the ease of turning the display off by closing it. )
And iPhone wielding coworkers fondle the M8 in ways they wouldn't touch an S5.
In most ways, though, it's just different. I really don't like the Samsung interface, and replaced it on my Tab Pro, so it's no surprise that I don't like how the S5 menus and screens are laid out. Sense/Blink is okay, but I don't need either kind of live-feed so I put Nova on it anyhow.
I think the M8 is better. Like an Audi is better than a Honda - it doesn't get you from point A to B better, but the ride is more enjoyable. But you can be happy with either one.
I hope no one minds me adding a small question to this thread, as I'm also about to buy an M8:
I've read in many places that the finish on it makes it very slippery. How true is it? Do owners usually use a case or not? It would be a shame to put a case on such a nice looking phone!
if no case - is the back cover replaceable? If after a year mine gets all scratched, can I just replace it with a new one like I do on my S3?
thanks!
Well just tried to buy m8 two different stores and lte would not light up..says no apn settings. I'm in Houston...huge lte here..Never had this problem with any other phones before..looks to be HTC issue?
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Slartibartfast_ said:
I hope no one minds me adding a small question to this thread, as I'm also about to buy an M8:
I've read in many places that the finish on it makes it very slippery. How true is it? Do owners usually use a case or not? It would be a shame to put a case on such a nice looking phone!
if no case - is the back cover replaceable? If after a year mine gets all scratched, can I just replace it with a new one like I do on my S3?
thanks!
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Thats the problem with such a beautiful device. You don't want to cover it up with a case but want to protect it from everyday use. I use a thin TPU clear case at work and when I'm out but take it off when I'm home just to feel the quality of the M8. As far as slippery, yes it's a little slippery but not too bad. The back is not replacable like on a phone with a removable battery if that's what your thinking. E-bay (and I'm sure other places) have backs for sale but you'll have to take the phone apart to change it out since the phone is 90% one piece metal. Check out ifixit.com for the teardown and see if you can do it. Personally I don't think it is as bad as they say it is but I'm a mechanic and field service engineer so taking stuff apart and fixing them is what I do for a living.
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
Well just tried to buy m8 two different stores and lte would not light up..says no apn settings. I'm in Houston...huge lte here..Never had this problem with any other phones before..looks to be HTC issue?
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Maybe but I don't have that problem where I live (Washington DC area).
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I am on the fence here..Had Note 3 love Amoled but hate Tw and the plastic...I did have the M7 loved it, but camera was bad....Did not like the G3 ...thinking of the M8 or Note 4 ...I don't use the spen and want a premium phone!! Help!!
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I had an m8 and "please don't bash me for this m8 owners" the camera is absolutely horrible. Huge letdown with the m7 then again with the m8. I had the m8 and tried to convince myself that I loved it. As far as root and s-off, the m8 is awesome. The camera is horrible and the phone is too tall. I switched to the s5 once I heard they had root and couldn't be happier. These are just my opinions.
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I had an m8 and "please don't bash me for this m8 owners" the camera is absolutely horrible. Huge letdown with the m7 then again with the m8. I had the m8 and tried to convince myself that I loved it. As far as root and s-off, the m8 is awesome. The camera is horrible and the phone is too tall. I switched to the s5 once I heard they had root and couldn't be happier. These are just my opinions.
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I agree the camera could be better out of the box but if you play with the setting in manual mode you will get amazing results. Most users are just casual photogs so they need point and shoot and never mess with the other features. I only use my phones camera as a conveiance because when I go to events etc. I take my point and shoot and my HD camcorder. I too thought the form factor of this phone would be too big but after having it for a month or so it's really not that big feeling. It actually feels smaller than my Vivid in my pocket. We won't take your comments as a bash, at least you didn't go with the iPhone Plus.
S5 or M8?
I'm trying to decide between the S5 and the M8 also.
Sounds like everybody is generally in love with the M8 because of the look and feel. Personally, I have trouble understanding why people complain about the plastic on the Samsung phones. If you plan to use the phone naked, then the look would make a difference. I never feel comfortable using these flimsy phones without a TPU case, and once you put a case on it, you rarely see the back of the phone. To me that makes all of that lovely metal a waste.
Otherwise, the waterproof qualities of the Samsung are a plus and most people seem to think the camera is better. Also, the lack of an easily replaceable battery on the M8 is a concern for me.
It seems that Sense UI, the speakers, and the general experience of using it is the big advantage for the M8. Also unlocked bootloaders and the availability of multiple stock roms is a plus. I'm not sure which phone wins out on battery life, but the Samsung has the bigger battery.
All in all, I'm leaning toward the S5, but it's a very close call.
Do you use a case on your M8? If so, what's the advantage of the pretty back?
Just got the M8 love it...very fast , very clean ui..no junk touchwiz here.... no complaints....This phone is very nice...only second generation...M9 will be even better....S5 feels and looks like my 9 year old niece designed ...good luck!
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I too was in a position to choose between the M8 and S5 when my Galaxy Note II decided to finally give up the ghost only after 18 months of use. Despite a full restore it just kept freezing up and corrupted not only my 64 GB SD card, but also the internal memory. Because my phone is my lifeline, I couldn't afford to take any more time to try to fix it, and bought a replacement - the M8.
I have never had as many issues or physically destroyed a phone as quickly as the Note II. While I enjoyed the plastic at the beginning due to making the weight of the phone lighter, it was also more prone to scratches, cracks, abrasion marks, etc. Although I liked the Touchwiz features, I hated the FischerPrice design. Why are all of the icons huge on the screen? Nova launcher quickly became my friend.
I temporarily reverted to my Iphone 4 while shopping for a new phone. While I also hate IOS7, i did realize that I missed the feel and sturdiness of the metal chassis design. This swayed me to look at the M8 after I found out that the new model was almost all metal, unlike the M7.
I viewed the reviews and specs of both the M8 and S5. While the better camera on the S5 was definitely important, these were the factors that made me choose the M8:
1) Metal iPhone like build. I'm not too rough on my phones, but the even more plastic flimsy build of the S5 didn't seem like it would hold up any better than my Note 2 did. i also hated the new Band-Aid like design. The S5 looks like a toy.
2) Dual stereo speakers. I am a musician and DJ. Music is my life. While the volume of the Note 2 and S5 were "ok', there is no doubt that the M8 was not only superior in sound quality, but offered the rare stereo experience.
3) Camera - the M8 is adequate, but not up to par with other phones, especially the S5 and new LG. However, I weighed this against my use of the device for music. I rarely take photos or videos with my phone. Yeah, every once in a while as a spur of the moment keepsake, or to send to someone, but never to save and print, etc. I realized that the camera was the least important feature to me, so even though the S5 would win in this category, the M8 was sufficient for my needs. That being said, some of the camera features are very nice, and if you use manual mode, you can get some pretty decent shots.
4) Size - Although I liked the bigger screen on the S5, and prefer the technology, I found my Note 2 to be just a tad too big every once in a while. The slightly smaller M8 seemed to still give me the larger real estate that I wanted (compared to the minuscule iPhone 4, which I found unusable for non mobile web browsing). I was not mistaken.
5) Interface. I was very surprised with how clean the Sense 6 interface was. Although I don't use BlinkFeed (not customizable enough for me) it seems like so much more a native android experience. I don't feel like it gets in the way like TW did. I don't even use Nova anymore, simply because I love the weather clock widget. It was designed with simplicity in mind, but not to a point of making it toy like. If anything, it is elegant.
6) Internal memory. The S5 only has 16 GB of internal memory. The M8 has 32. Let's face it, there's a lot that can not be stored on an external SD card.
Other factors -
I really like the dot view case. While I thought it was gimmicky at first, I really find it helpful. The scrolling caller ID, the tap to view time/weather, the quick voice call feature, auto on/off when opening/closing the cover. Actually all very useful.
I do miss having a full RGB led notification indicator. However I'm finding it less important than I did on the Note 2.
I actually like the stock music player. I used Google Play Music on the Note, but now only use it for cloud based stuff (21K songs LOL). Otherwise I've been using the native player. I like the Music Channel feature with the scrolling lyrics.
One thing that almost made me overlook the M8 was that the M7 did not have a removable battery or SD slot. The M8 now features a micro SD slot (up to 128 GB!) so that's no longer an issue. While the M8 still does not have a removable battery, I find the battery life of the phone to be amazing. I do tend to have it on a charger most days, but yesterday I spent 14 hours at the casino. Even with constantly checking my phone, using it for several calls, texts, etc., I still had 20% at the end of the day without using power saver mode. My note would have been dead in 6-8 hours.
Even with the announcement of the New iPhone 6, I do not regret my choice of the M8. I really enjoy using this phone. YMMV, but the best thing to do would be to evaluate the features and how they fit your needs.
Both the M8 and G3 are badass phones. I have both and keep switching. Converted M8 to Dev and of course updates are like they are supposed to be. G3 no unlocked bootloader, can be a problem for some. The lag that those complain about on the G3 is virtually non-existent but sometimes can be seen. I think once LG issues an update, and they will, it won't even be a conversation anymore. I think LG is going straight to L, and will address everything at that point. Of course HTC will issue the same updates, probably faster too, but in the end, if LG fixes some of the "nagging" issues, it will be so much better.
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
Just got the M8 love it...very fast , very clean ui..no junk touchwiz here.... no complaints....This phone is very nice...only second generation...M9 will be even better....S5 feels and looks like my 9 year old niece designed ...good luck!
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Now that's funny. I say the same about my wifes Note 3, so cartoonish.
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I agree the camera could be better out of the box but if you play with the setting in manual mode you will get amazing results. Most users are just casual photogs so they need point and shoot and never mess with the other features. I only use my phones camera as a conveiance because when I go to events etc. I take my point and shoot and my HD camcorder. I too thought the form factor of this phone would be too big but after having it for a month or so it's really not that big feeling. It actually feels smaller than my Vivid in my pocket. We won't take your comments as a bash, at least you didn't go with the iPhone Plus.
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I haven't had any trouble with camera and I prefer the luxury finish that gives the M8 over the S5.
I was gonna open a new thread but this is what I was looking for
Used iPhone 3G > Captivate > S3 > Note 2 ----> Got bored of Android, and more so with constant rooting and roms, and a times frustrating lag and crashing. So I bought into the hype and paid 1K for an iphone 6 64GB ( was waiting from Carrier too and then sell t but wait was 6 weeks ) , used for 3 days and realized I miss the Android control and usage. I sold the iPhone for 940, lost money and ordered an M8 from my Carrier - since I know its premium finish and I simply want to root it
I have been reading about GPE but most people say the stock is best itself
Have I picked the right phone as I want to stay away from the same Rom game and needs a smooth phone
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Have I picked the right phone as I want to stay away from the same Rom game and needs a smooth phone
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Only you can answer if its the right phone for you.
But what I can say, is the stock experience is smooth, snappy and won't disappoint. To be honest, I've felt like HTC has gotten very close to having a great stock ROM experience for some time now. And that is pretty much realized with Sense 6, especially combined with the hardware on the M8. I mean, there is always tweaking that can be done with custom ROMs, and whether you want a custom ROM or not completely depends on your own preferences and usage. But I really feel that we are at a point where the stock software is stable, fast and smooth, and a custom ROM is not needed to get basic functionality or to overcome lag caused by Sense (as has been the case for older devices).
That being said, I went to a custom ROM early on (second day I owned the M8) because I can't stand AT&T's bloatware and limitations (blocked tethering if not on a tethering plan). But that is really another matter. Lag and performance are not an issue on the stock software.
Also, you can't really compare the M8 with Samsung devices. I have a current Samsung tablet (Tab Pro 8.4) and it lagged and crashed on TouchWiz, and all but forced me to go AOSP (which made it much faster and more stable). So don't take the Samsung experience as being indicative of all Android devices. The M8 is simply snappy in comparison.
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Only you can answer if its the right phone for you.
But what I can say, is the stock experience is smooth, snappy and won't disappoint. To be honest, I've felt like HTC has gotten very close to having a great stock ROM experience for some time now. And that is pretty much realized with Sense 6, especially combined with the hardware on the M8. I mean, there is always tweaking that can be done with custom ROMs, and whether you want a custom ROM or not completely depends on your own preferences and usage. But I really feel that we are at a point where the stock software is stable, fast and smooth, and a custom ROM is not needed to get basic functionality or to overcome lag caused by Sense (as has been the case for older devices).
That being said, I went to a custom ROM early on (second day I owned the M8) because I can't stand AT&T's bloatware and limitations (blocked tethering if not on a tethering plan). But that is really another matter. Lag and performance are not an issue on the stock software.
Also, you can't really compare the M8 with Samsung devices. I have a current Samsung tablet (Tab Pro 8.4) and it lagged and crashed on TouchWiz, and all but forced me to go AOSP (which made it much faster and more stable). So don't take the Samsung experience as being indicative of all Android devices. The M8 is simply snappy in comparison.
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tx man, I have 8.4 Tab Pro too. Lot of the comments on this thread are so similar to my past usage with Samsung - man it feels good to be back with Android. I was SO missing the back button the iphone and unlocking with fingerprint was a bore, had to wait till it opens, keep eye on the phone to swap channels on Tune in radio whereas in droid, u can simply swipe w/o looking. Lot of other small things make the difference
I was deeply torn between an S5 and the M8. My wife actually poked fun at me for not being able to decide. They are both solid phones, but ultimately I wasn't able to give up the freedom to tinker. The S5 is locked down hard on AT&T, and while it has root, at some point it's going to be totally closed - or at least developers are going to be stuck on the last officially supported kernel until people get tired of it. There is safestrap, and I looked into it, but it sounds like people are already getting weary of development on the locked versions. Thus, there will likely never be a non-TW ROM for it. The T-mobile version isn't locked, but apparently doesn't perform as well on AT&T networks, and you would have to find a way to get one without switching carriers.
The M8, on the other hand, has a future. Even once HTC gets tired of supporting it, being able to unlock the bootloader (either officially or unofficially) and S-off means that people will be creating new ROMs for it until it, like my old Skyrocket, just get so old that no one has them anymore. That was the deciding factor for me, especially in light of the fact that I switched to Cyanogenmod a long time ago on my Skyrocket, and never looked back. So, in a way, firewater (and ultimately Sunshine) sold me on the M8.
Now, the fact is that I have come to really like Sense. Sure, it doesn't have every option I'm used to in CM, but it's a solid skin that doesn't get in the way. I opted for a full (including CID) conversion to the Developer Edition, and have stuck with it for now. Thus, the ultimate irony is that I have the ability to do whatever I like to my phone, and I'm so happy with stock that I've not installed a single alternate ROM. However, I am also happy knowing that one day I will be able to.
OK, I'm on a Nexus 6, running Chroma ROM, loving the rooted Marshmallow life on Project Fi. I was looking forward to more of the same with the 128GB 6P. Then I started checking into the V10.
Here is what is *almost* making me hit the cancel button on my N6P order: 2nd screen, ESS Sabre DAC/AMP (the main reason is this actually), and I personally prefer the LG displays vs Amoled. (Color and white accuracy > saturated pop.) The V10 looks a bit better IMO too, but looks are pretty far down my list of considerations. Until proven otherwise, I'll consider cameras on the 6p vs v10 to be a wash. I also don't think the 808 vs 810 thing will be a huge deal for me either.
I've owned the G2 and G3 and liked it, but don't at all care for LG's UI customizations vs stock android. It's worse than touch wiz in some ways. Not as bad in others.
I'm an audiophile and I'd love to ditch my external headphone DAC/AMP. I'd really like to enjoy the V10, but not sure I can give up the freedom of a Nexus. So... Convince me!
Don't forget the removable SD (up to 1TB of music for you) and removable battery.
Nobody can convince you but yourself. I cancelled my 6P order for several reasons. IR Blaster (yes I use it all the time), V10 is the first phone using Qualcomm's TruSignal radio, second screen, IPS vs OLED, video features, the LG camera are already among the finest in cellphones, serious drop protection, among others. I'm one of the few maybe? Who actually likes the features that LG has added to their phones as opposed to vanilla Android. 4GB RAM, 808 is a fine processor. Qi charging backs available, removable battery and SD card slots. Those are the reasons I hit the cancel button.
I've sort of thought about getting myself the V10.
I want the Nexus 6P very bad, however unless AT&T picks it up wihtin the next two months I am more than likely going to have to find another phone or jump through a lot of hoops to get it.
That said, I have had my G3 since a month after it was released, this is the longest time I have ever held onto a phone.. Without rooting it, I might add.
I have used plenty of android devices, all were rooted. I love root, but I feel as Android is evolving I have had less of a need to root, though I would really like to hear that the bootloader on the V10 will be easily unlocked...
I sort of thought the second screen was going to be a gimmick. Now I am rethinking that. I absolutely love my G3 camera. I don't mind the LG UI in fact and that is one of the biggest reasons I have kept the phone this long. Unlike TouchWiz which will keep me from buying another Samsung phone for years to come, or Sense which I will not try again in the foreseeable future, the UI is not over bearing, almost keeps the vanilla android look perfectly.. It doesn't eat up a ton of RAM, and is pretty darn snappy.
I think I may end up with this device, I will wait until reviews of the N6P and this device come out to make a final decision, as well as wait and see if carriers in the US are allowed/decide to carry the Nexus.
You have to make the decision yourself, OP. I'll say this much - I don't need root at this point, sure it's a bonus, but not needed - so I lean toward this device.
Stainless steel, rubber, 2 gorilla glass coverings, sd card, removable battery, 2nd screen, 2 selfie cams and the video record features.
I can re-skin the UI, all but the system menu, with Nova - which I'd probably be doing on the nexus as well. I guess the big question is how much ROM support will the V10 have to keep me happy like the nexus will. Having to code a ROM to handle that second display is probably going to be rough, but I'm just guessing.
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I can re-skin the UI, all but the system menu, with Nova - which I'd probably be doing on the nexus as well. I guess the big question is how much ROM support will the V10 have to keep me happy like the nexus will. Having to code a ROM to handle that second display is probably going to be rough, but I'm just guessing.
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I'm going to say a few things here, and all my opinion.
First. I am only up to speed on the way the G3 development progressed. Boatloader was hard to crack for most carrier variants and I believe the V10 will more than likely follow suit.
If you are buying a new phone to go flash-a-holic on your best bet will always be the newest Nexus device, hands down. The way phone manufacturers are trending they want their phones to be super secure, and in Samsung's case want it secure enough to make government contracts possible.
With that said. The next thing is the second screen. If there happens to be a fair development area for this phone I will assume that all stock based roms will have no issues with the second screen as it is already in the software code.
However, MIUI, AOSP, CM based roms will likely have issues unless LG makes that code available. So, again if you want to flash every ROM in the XDA database the Nexus is your phone.
I look at the V10 and I see stability, amazing hardware, software for the camera second to none, and above all else the one thing all these manufacturers are losing people for lacking - MICRO SD and removable battery!
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I used to be a flash crazy person. I tried everything and constantly switched. That was also during the time when Android wasn't mature like it is now. Now, I'm content with just root. I hate flashing ROM's now, it takes up too much time restoring everything, and a lot of the features added to ROM's are not very useful to me. I do like to flash kernels, though and find them useful.
1) I understand the benefits of USB C but I have a significant investment in Qualcomm Quickcharge 2.0 wall, and car, and power bank, and cables. So I actually prefer at this time to stay with micro USB for compatibility with my other devices. USB C might make more sense in a couple years.
2) Removable battery. Not because I intend to swap it but rather because I hope to stay with this phone for many years and when the battery get tired I can buy a new one.
3) Micro SD. My current phone is small so I use it for audio only and my tablet for video only. I am hoping by switching to a big phone I can use one device for both audio and video. This means I want lots of storage and the max 128GB of the 6P is not enough for me.
4) I do not like the wasted bezel space at the top of the 6P. I'm thinking the V10 2nd display with be useful for me.
5) I like the combined power and finger print sensor on the back.
6) I think a camera with OIS is better than one without. And I like manual camera controls.
7) I don't play games but I like to multitask. So more ram and lower power cpu is a plus for me.
What might change my mind?
If upcoming 6P camera reviews demonstrate it is a lot better than the V10 camera. If the V10 pricing is not competitive. If I see some serious flaws reported in V10 reviews.
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OK, I'm on a Nexus 6, running Chroma ROM, loving the rooted Marshmallow life on Project Fi. I was looking forward to more of the same with the 128GB 6P. Then I started checking into the V10.
Here is what is *almost* making me hit the cancel button on my N6P order: 2nd screen, ESS Sabre DAC/AMP (the main reason is this actually), and I personally prefer the LG displays vs Amoled. (Color and white accuracy > saturated pop.) The V10 looks a bit better IMO too, but looks are pretty far down my list of considerations. Until proven otherwise, I'll consider cameras on the 6p vs v10 to be a wash. I also don't think the 808 vs 810 thing will be a huge deal for me either.
I've owned the G2 and G3 and liked it, but don't at all care for LG's UI customizations vs stock android. It's worse than touch wiz in some ways. Not as bad in others.
I'm an audiophile and I'd love to ditch my external headphone DAC/AMP. I'd really like to enjoy the V10, but not sure I can give up the freedom of a Nexus. So... Convince me!
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If you were really an audiophile than you wouldn't need convincing. The superb ESS DAC/AMP in the LG V10 should have been enough to tip the scale quite easily.
Oh, kind of like the ESS DAC and amp in this? https://www.oppodigital.com/headphone-amplifier-ha-2/
Carrying around that has been just fine for quite a while. Not having to carry that and still having all of the features I want in a smartphone is my goal. If you read my post, maybe you would have understood.
You'll never be able to convince me that you'd rather carry around a stack if you don't have to. That's absurd. Choice is easy. LG V10.
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You'll never be able to convince me that you'd rather carry around a stack if you don't have to. That's absurd. Choice is easy. LG V10.
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I'd rather carry it than go without the smartphone features I want. Many people do.
You have yet to post a logical argument as to why the V10 is better.
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I'd rather carry it than go without the smartphone features I want. Many people do.
You have yet to post a logical argument as to why the V10 is better.
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Stacks are bulky and annoying. Nobody wants to carry that around if they dont have to and the v10 eliminates that need. I never said the LG is "better". I said the v10 has a superior dac/amp that would make the decision easy for a true audiophile. Not to mention the 6p doesn't even have an sd card slot for more music.
Bottom line for me looks like I'm going with the V10 over the Nexus 6P. Very excited for it. Might be a month but I am going to get myself a little "early" Christmas present
No need to convince. Don't get it. It doesn't meet your needs/wants.
I got my 6p in the mail today. Really nice phone, but something makes me want to try the v10, (the promo helps) camera is probably just as good maybe better. I ordered from ATT in Opal Blue, I figure if it doesn't compare I can return it. Or if Its better, keep it and sell the 6p.
Samsung.Galaxy.S3 said:
No need to convince. Don't get it. It doesn't meet your needs/wants.
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I agree. I think I'll be sticking with the N6P.
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I got my 6p in the mail today. Really nice phone, but something makes me want to try the v10, (the promo helps) camera is probably just as good maybe better. I ordered from ATT in Opal Blue, I figure if it doesn't compare I can return it. Or if Its better, keep it and sell the 6p.
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Mind giving us a comparison once you've had the chance to test drive both? I'm still interested in the V10, I'm just thinking the N6P better suits me at this point.
I thought I was going to prefer the Nexus 6P over the LG V10 but that was ruined when I learned Nexus was going AMOLED again. It was a disaster the first time around and doesn't sound all that great this time. I'm reading a lot of complaints on brightness and a pink/blue hue to the screen.
I just don't trust AMOLED. I'm a moderate to heavy user and don't need a screen that can suffer image retention, burn in, and/or color degradation anywhere from a week to a year after purchase.
All in all, though, I'll be sticking with my G4 as the V10 isn't worth the upgrade.
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I agree. I think I'll be sticking with the N6P.
Mind giving us a comparison once you've had the chance to test drive both? I'm still interested in the V10, I'm just thinking the N6P better suits me at this point.
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I really like the 6p, its beautiful, the camera is amazing, and its fast and clean. My v10 comes tomorrow, I will gladly share my opinion.
Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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It's a great phone and is now easily rootable on both Lollipop or Marshmallow (depending on which it ships with). Custom TWRP recovery exists and that's helpful when flashing updates. There's a very solid stock ROM with various debloat, dedeox, etc variations to try from. Also a couple non stock ROMs like CM13 and Resurrection Remix that are WIP that are pretty close (working camera being the big gating item).
On the con side it's not the latest and greatest and the G5 of HTC 10 has better performance (at least in tests like Antutu). Also i wish there were more devs actively working on this phone....seems like its really only a couple folks and if they get bored and move on...
Anyway, that's my two cents. Hope it helps. Come join the fun.
A great device, had mine for less than two months now and for the current price it is hard to beat
This beat out the nexus 6p for me due to the removable battery and expandable storage
The second screen is a bit gimicky still, I can't find a reason to use it much other than for always on notifications
The two front facing cameras... well the could have stuck with just the wide angle and I would be happy. But rear shooter is still hard to beat by anything
Build quality is solid, screen is great, battery ain't so good but the fastest charger to date can't beat a battery swap
Other forums may have more development but this one is moving along nicely and with the smaller size feels closer (my big name phones always had way too many people to keep track)
I plan on holding on to it for two years, can't see a good reason not to.
Hope to see you around the forum!
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Yeah, what these guys said. I just got my V10 this month so only a couple weeks with it but I'm quite happy. Has all the features I require: swappable battery, SD card support, good camera with OIS, and fingerprint support. I love big screens and this certainly has it plus the second screen I find moderately useful though not a requirement. It's also built like a tank which is nice (but heavy). I don't see anything in the market that competes with the V10 if you have the same requirements as I do. I think the only thing that might get me jealous in 2016 is a V11. This one will likely last me several years, I think.