Sorry don't know where to post this ...but here goes...does anyone know or think being on ME7 that we will ever be able to update to the latest operating version available directly from ME7? In other words IF..WHEN..4.4 comes out will we have to odin to MI1 then root, then odin 4.3 then root then odin 4.4 then root (hopefully) or does someone think we will be able to go from ME7 to the latest update directly..Just wondering if I should start the process now..... Mod can delete if doesn't think appropriate.....
Poofster said:
Sorry don't know where to post this ...but here goes...does anyone know or think being on ME7 that we will ever be able to update to the latest operating version available directly from ME7? In other words IF..WHEN..4.4 comes out will we have to odin to MI1 then root, then odin 4.3 then root then odin 4.4 then root (hopefully) or does someone think we will be able to go from ME7 to the latest update directly..Just wondering if I should start the process now..... Mod can delete if doesn't think appropriate.....
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that logic seems a tad bit strange, don't you think if there was a 4.4 root method that you could just unroot and return your ME7 back to stock and take all the OTA updates until getting to 4.4 and then root. eleminating all that work rooting something that you aren't going to keep? just a thought.
that sounds to simple..hahaha...I guess I just over thought the idea...all these forums with whats going on and all the hard work and updates and work arounds I guess I got caught up in it and was feeling kinda left out....thanks for straightening me out haha
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If you have a S4 that runs on Update VRUAMDK and is willing to switch for a S4 with ME7 update, please PM me, thedeveloper1
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thedeveloper1 said:
If you have a S4 that runs on Update VRUAMDK and is willing to switch for a S4 with ME7 update, please PM me, thedeveloper1
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Why not just use Odin to get back to stock and then update?
overlord727 said:
Why not just use Odin to get back to stock and then update?
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I'm on stock ME7 right now and I want to switch devices with a person who hasn't updated to the currently unrootable ME7
Once on me7 u cant odin back to mdk.
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Whoops! I read that backwards and thought you wanted one with the update. Sorry about that!
What the heck is ME7 adn why do people want to avoid it like the plague.? How can I tell if my new S4 has this or not?
I searched ME7 here and all I got is specific posts about the people having the issue, and nothing about what it is.
broderp said:
What the heck is ME7 adn why do people want to avoid it like the plague.? How can I tell if my new S4 has this or not?
I searched ME7 here and all I got is specific posts about the people having the issue, and nothing about what it is.
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If you don't know, you don't need to know
but anyway, ME7 breaks the ability to flash custom ROMs
andybones said:
If you don't know, you don't need to know
but anyway, ME7 breaks the ability to flash custom ROMs
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Gee thankls! Now I know!
broderp said:
Gee thankls! Now I know!
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ME7 is the new bootloader installed on Verizon's update a month or so ago. The previous version was MDK which could be flashed back to the pre-release MD2 for root access. The MDK and MD2 also allowed you to install a custom recovery partition like TWRP or CWM which allowed you to do full nandroid backups and reflash the phone with a new ROM. ME7 is locked and so far you cannot install TWRP or CWM effectively preventing anyone with it from flashing new ROMS. ME7 also cannot be flashed back using ODIN into the MDK or MD2 verisons. So right now, everyone with ME7 (me included) can only gain root access at the most.
Hi guys it's been a while since I've been on here. I have a quick question. I know the S4 bootloader can't be unlocked yet. Which is fine with me..but I found this thread to root it but it says not to do it if I accepted the OTA update. How do I know if I have the update? I did update my phone the other day but now it's asking for me to do it again. So I am think I don't have the latest update. I just want to root my phone to take out all this samsung and verizon crap it comes with. Hopefully when the bootloader is able to be unlocked I can start flashing custom roms. If anyone could help me out here that would be awesome. Here's the thread that I was going to follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301720
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Hi guys it's been a while since I've been on here. I have a quick question. I know the S4 bootloader can't be unlocked yet. Which is fine with me..but I found this thread to root it but it says not to do it if I accepted the OTA update. How do I know if I have the update? I did update my phone the other day but now it's asking for me to do it again. So I am think I don't have the latest update. I just want to root my phone to take out all this samsung and verizon crap it comes with. Hopefully when the bootloader is able to be unlocked I can start flashing custom roms. If anyone could help me out here that would be awesome. Here's the thread that I was going to follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301720
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There are separate OTA updates to get you from MDK to ME7, ME7 to MI1, and MI1 to MJ7. You'll get prompted for each of these as there's no way to skip an update.
To find out what you're running, Settings, More, About Phone. Look at the Build number field.
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There are separate OTA updates to get you from MDK to ME7, ME7 to MI1, and MI1 to MJ7. You'll get prompted for each of these as there's no way to skip an update.
To find out what you're running, Settings, More, About Phone. Look at the Build number field.
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I looked and im on ME7...and it wants me to update again but im holding off. What do you think?
steveojp said:
I looked and im on ME7...and it wants me to update again but im holding off. What do you think?
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That depends on what you want to do. Updating to MI1 will still allow you root, but no custom recovery.
There's no big advantage there, but MI1 will allow you to update to MJ7 and keep root, which is perhaps worthwhile as that's 4.3.
I find my GS4 to be a lot faster on MJ7 so it was worth it. But only you can decide what's best.
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That depends on what you want to do. Updating to MI1 will still allow you root, but no custom recovery.
There's no big advantage there, but MI1 will allow you to update to MJ7 and keep root, which is perhaps worthwhile as that's 4.3.
I find my GS4 to be a lot faster on MJ7 so it was worth it. But only you can decide what's best.
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I thought MJ7 you can't root?
steveojp said:
I thought MJ7 you can't root?
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You can root MJ7 using vroot. Since I don't trust that, I'm not rooted.
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You can root MJ7 using vroot. Since I don't trust that, I'm not rooted.
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But the bootloader is still locked and I cant flash any custom roms yet right? And MJ7 is the newest update that is out???
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If you're on ME7 you can install safestrap to flash TW roms, but no AOSP. There's no point to upgrade to MI1 if that's what you want to do, because there's certain kernel issues using MI1 with safestrap. If you want to be on 4.3 rooted and don't care about flashing, then are safe methods to update firmware and keep root. Just follow the guides in their respective threads.
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Okay guys so I got my S4 for Christmas as an upgrade from an S3. I love it. Its a beast and it is just amazing. Here's my problem, after a bunch of head scratching and reading, I finally found out how I was supposed to root it while running the latest jail cell of an update, MK2. The only thing I did to my phone is root it. No custom recovery or anything. Now that the android 4.4.2 update is coming soon, I really want to update to it, but obviously I can't just take the OTA when it comes out, so I need to go back to stock, no root, nothing, the thing is I have no idea how to safely do it and I have very bad dyslexia so keeping track of all the threads that tell me what to do is impossible for me. Can someone please give me a simple step by step on how to do go back to stock? And where I can get the firmware from?
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My recommendation would be to search the Samsung website for an MK2 Odin.tar stock firmware image for your s4. If you can't find it there then I recommend looking on XDA for a no data wipe MK2 image. Once the OTA hits for 4.4.2 touchwiz KitKat I recommend you wait for the devs to find a root exploit for it. Or if you don't mind spending a few bucks you could buy super su pro and enable root survival mode and it keeps root over an ota. But I'll see if I can link you to a non data wipe stock MK2 image.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
Here are the stock MK2 images just in case. There are full data wipes and no data wipes available. Hope I was able to help!
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Okay guys so I got my S4 for Christmas as an upgrade from an S3. I love it. Its a beast and it is just amazing. Here's my problem, after a bunch of head scratching and reading, I finally found out how I was supposed to root it while running the latest jail cell of an update, MK2. The only thing I did to my phone is root it. No custom recovery or anything. Now that the android 4.4.2 update is coming soon, I really want to update to it, but obviously I can't just take the OTA when it comes out, so I need to go back to stock, no root, nothing, the thing is I have no idea how to safely do it and I have very bad dyslexia so keeping track of all the threads that tell me what to do is impossible for me. Can someone please give me a simple step by step on how to do go back to stock? And where I can get the firmware from?
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Please understand that currently there is no way to root KitKat on bootloader locked devices.
Yes, you can restore a no-wipe MK2 ROM and return to stock, then take the 4.4 update when it's rolled out, but you may be stuck on stock for good if you do that.
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Please understand that currently there is no way to root KitKat on bootloader locked devices.
Yes, you can restore a no-wipe MK2 ROM and return to stock, then take the 4.4 update when it's rolled out, but you may be stuck on stock for good if you do that.
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k1mu, we will be repeating this countless times when the OTA happens
Sorry if this is a dumb question but I find it harder and harder to find stuff around here anymore with people using the same keywords in their threads for ROMS and updates such as stock when it's actually a modified stock etc.
Anyway where is a stock root safe rom coming from ME7 to get to 4.3 or 4.4
I have SU set for root saver but anytime I try and go to the OTA I get a settings have stopped error.
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N00dle said:
Sorry if this is a dumb question but I find it harder and harder to find stuff around here anymore with people using the same keywords in their threads for ROMS and updates such as stock when it's actually a modified stock etc.
Anyway where is a stock root safe rom coming from ME7 to get to 4.3 or 4.4
I have SU set for root saver but anytime I try and go to the OTA I get a settings have stopped error.
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Using an OTA, ME7 will update to MI1. That's rootable with Saferoot, so why worry about root saver?
MI1 will OTA to MJ7, which will OTA to MK2. Those are also rootable.
I'd recommend flashing a no-wipe MK2, which will get you to 4.3. That's available in this post.
You can't get to 4.4 yet since Verizon hasn't released it for our phones.
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Using an OTA, ME7 will update to MI1. That's rootable with Saferoot, so why worry about root saver?
MI1 will OTA to MJ7, which will OTA to MK2. Those are also rootable.
I'd recommend flashing a no-wipe MK2, which will get you to 4.3. That's available in this post.
You can't get to 4.4 yet since Verizon hasn't released it for our phones.
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Thanks this is the info I was looking for and having trouble digging through the noise if you will.
I didn't realize I was 3 versions behind.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/1...date-with-knox-2-0-connectivity-improvements/
...Sigh. When will vzw pull their heads out of their..
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...Sigh. When will vzw pull their heads out of their..
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Until they realize they are not doing their customers any favors, never.
I knew better. Got an MDK device, rooted it immediately and have been running CM ever since. [emoji41]
If you guys are talking about Knox 2.0...get used to it. Knox is being incorporated by Google in Android "L".
Remember, with all the hackers out there, the average Joe and Joan want their privacy secured...all the banking that is done from the phones now?
And also Verizon is the largest carrier for military and commercial contracts...to keep them and get more the phones have to be as secure as possible.
Anyone try to see if Towelroot works with this build?
I think they need to find another root method. Towelroot only works on kernels june 3 and below. I have no idea if it will work if you used it
I'm not upgrading. All flashaholics like me will DEFINITELY just wait for a possible exploit for NC5 than hope for the almost nonexistent chance there will be an unlock in the new firmware. Just my $0.02
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Anyone try to see if Towelroot works with this build?
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We have been able to use towelroot on the latest updates for the att S4, S5, and Vz S5 by flashing back the previous kernel, rooting, then reflashing the new unexploitable kernel. Vz S4 users will likely be able to do the same on NG6.
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Least they could have done was give us 4.4.4 at the same time.
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Anyone get this yet. What android version is it still 4.4.2
Does towelroot work on this update? I want to know before I take the plunge...
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Downloading now. I don't care if I lose root. I'll test towelroot after the update.
MedleHed said:
Downloading now. I don't care if I lose root. I'll test towelroot after the update.
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Towelroot is guaranteed not to work. A better option is to grab the update from your cache/fota folder and post so that we can make a workaround to keep root.
Yep id give it to muniz.
Theres no way im going through the drama we had last time.
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Yep id give it to muniz.
Theres no way im going through the drama we had last time.
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Lol, I remember and don't blame you at all.
It's confirmed that towelroot doesn't work. The version is still 4.4.2. The first thing I noticed was the GPS toggle in the notification area is now a Location toggle.
Any method of rooting?
Now that Towelroot is out, is there any way of rooting on the latest version? Downgrading, flashing an image in Odin, etc? Or are we pretty much screwed until a work around is found?
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Now that Towelroot is out, is there any way of rooting on the latest version? Downgrading, flashing an image in Odin, etc? Or are we pretty much screwed until a work around is found?
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There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
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There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
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I could give you guys the OTA if you tell me how to do it. I'm by no means an expert at rooting, but I've had a few years experience. So basically you'll modify the new kernel to allow downgrading to NC5, root, then update again? I had Towelroot before I updated, had OTA survival mode enabled in SuperSU, and had it installed as a system app, but I still lost root on this latest update. :crying:
muniz_ri said:
There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
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When they finally block us from doing this, it will be a dark day lol.