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I've read that the original Galaxy S & Galaxy Tab have received "Value Update", to their firmware. This means that they aren't going to receive ICS, but gained ICS features. Both can now take pictures while recording video, so my questions is why can't we yet. Or am I not doing the correct thing by pressing the screen while recording video??? I don't think it is good practice on Samsung's part to allow this feature on older hardware, but not their more powerful dual-core devices....unless it's just not possible due to our camera hardware.
Anyone have any insight on this?
no not in sgs2, yup the value added pack for sgs1 has it...
I knew that already......my question is why???
ok so Ive decide on going with the HTC Droid Dna. but i have a question i was looking at the note 2 and I like taking a lot of photos and video and from what i can tell in the review their is a white balance issue that will be corrected with a software update, but what i really want to know is their a way or a camera app to give my some of the features the Galaxy Note 2 has in particular share shoot, buddy shot, and the effect to take a photo and only so the blues or reds?
I'll post here if you don't mind....
Should we expect a hack that wiil allow as to shoot 1080p at High Profile L4.x at 20Mbps,30Mbps,40Mbps and No compression for jpeg photos?
I know that there is already such a hack for other HTC phone. Will it work on this one too?
60fps works see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...fps-video-recording-libchanger-t3424621/page3
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Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google as I don't have a camera 2 device I'm attaching a test apk set to 120fps I wanna see if its working if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p from that we could set fps range to 60,60
Two part test if preview running at 120fps and if recording working
Log cat the test also if any error occurs
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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Done basically install the apk see if it works or not
You should change "60p" to "60 fps". I think you're confusing vertical resolution with fps.
Regardless, I'm glad we're talking about this. 30 fps video is dumb and objectively much worse than 60 fps. Google's priorities here are totally wrong.
Btw, video preview is running at around 5-10 fps, and app FCs when you start recording. That's on a non-rooted 6.0.1.
I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
iRub1Out said:
I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
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You are mistaken, google doesn't care for it either.
Which, reading their reply, is total BS.
Theyre focusing on making it stable? They've had more than enough time to do that, it's plenty stable - given their resources and the fact that they designed it on their own platform. Not to mention the existence of 120/240 fps making it painfully obvious that this is either laziness or an oversight (neither are excusable) for not having included a 60fps option, my S5 had that for gods sake, a phone that launched in April of '14 had this ability. Along with each successor to the Galaxy line, iphones, LG, I cant think of a flagship that can't do it?
Maybe I'm (we're?) in the minority in believing that it's pathetic to have a phone with the capabilities this one does, but lacks a function that very few - if any - new phones also lack that would really make the videos taken on the device a lot better. I'ts getting frustrating that Google, and the Nexus brand, are supposed to be top of the line and cutting edge - for the most part - but have, seemingly on purpose, chosen to exclude some of the key desirable components that customers want. Wireless charging (i know it was left out to make it thinner) but still... and these were two things I really hoped for, I think the 6P was a step in the wrong direction. Huawei really treated me like **** when they sent me the wrong 6P (the bastard model that excluded band 10 for some dumb reason) and refused to allow me to exchange or return it no matter what.
If Huawei makes the 2016 Nexus, I will gladly wash my hands of it, there's no way that company will ever get my business again.
I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
I've pushed modified blob and app source to git @ https://github.com/defcomk/c2Vid as stated I have no camera 2 device so I go by logcats .
Anyway the source is there added some log lines as from the crash I could not see what exactly caused the crash
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I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
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From the leaked Qualcomm camera source code it looks like 60fps comes part of most libs and oems remove them for what reason I dunno but if you can find a device with same sensor and 60fps all that is needed is the registers for timmings and clocks and res entry but the later can be calculated.
There is hope for LG G5/One Plus 3/Mi5
HTC I tried but could only get it to 40fps in camera 1 mode Camera 2 mode the target fps range stuff maxed out at 30 perhaps when ae turned off in full manual it will work .in Camera 1 mode its another mess by htc where they broke qualcom video-hfr parameter in favour of their own video-mode which seems like a copy paste job from htc one m9 half then they broke it.
I patched hal as far as to allow fps range up to 120fps but the code that switches between the different sensor out put res mode was crippled.
I dunno if Camera2 was intended to even support 60p the only method I see is using HighSpeedCapture mode which only recognizes >=120 .
So in the blob pushed to git 1080p is set to max fps of 120 so it shows up in The high-speed mode .
In the root of the repo is text file showing imx377 configs
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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I mean most people complain about slow start times of the camera on tge n6p anyway so I'd hate to see it slowed even further. While Samsung isn't exactly the best developers, they have a massive amount of devs I'm sure. But I still agree. If they can do it, Google and others should be able to also.
Just to clarify, my dislike for Huawei stems far beyond this issue. I will link to the thread (if anyone wants it) where I outline the month-long ordeal where they constantly lied to me about having a tech call me back, refunding my purchase, allowing me to return my 128GB 6P - all because they sent me the A2 style 6P, not the A1 style which everyone else on this continent got, and I purchased 4 other identical 6Ps in that same order, but one was a bastard model that lacked band 10, a band that is necessary for it to work for me on USCC (works on everyone else though) - Google NEVER sold the A2 style, only the A1 (which included band 10) and works perfectly fine. Of the 4 phones purchased, 3 were the A1 style, 1 was the A2 style, and this was never an option when ordered since...there was never more than 1 style that was publically known. They gave me a phone with missing hardware, refused to replace/return/rectify the situation in any form.
Anyway, THATS why I will never do business with them again. Their CS is absolute bull**** and they lie to their customers when they have legitimate issues that THEY caused.
The 60fps issue is on Google, it would be sweet to have, and I can't see any reasonable logic to not including it with the app on the phone? Thats all.
Cleaned up the bickering, let's all play nicely together please.
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defcomg said:
Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google,
as I don't have a camera 2 device to test I'm attaching a test apk below
FPS is set 120fps I wanna see if its working , if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p.
With 120fps 1080p we could set fps range to 60,60 allowing 60p video.
This is a Two part test .
A) if preview running at 120fps
B)if video recording is working
Logcat the test if any error occurs
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CyberZeus_Viva said:
A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
shuckeru said:
i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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does it modify the camera app? no
does it replace the camera app? also, no
does it introduce a new fps mode? yes
did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps? It's more complicated than that, and OP is still working things out.
iRub1Out said:
I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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-That app was created for another device so the lag is expected and Yes defcomk is creating a software mod and will enable the FPS we deserve. some good progress but nothing solid yet. (patience)
-This won't bork your camera lol
-Regarding L Camera, it was capable but was more of a test being that it got the job done on the Nexus 5 but with lot's of sacrifices and such. hence the reason it was more of a way of just testing camera 2 api. The IMX377 sensor on our phone is more than capable but defcomk is still deep in testing.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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well, it does this for me too which is unfortunate.
I don't really understand what's the problem? Can't someone just make a camera app that records at 120fps and just saves one frame and throws away the other? There you go 60fps.
Or you could edit the video yourself and remove every second frame?
Sorry if I'm posting this to the wrong place, but I just found out that the A8 can actually shoot video at the same resolution as pictures. I don't know if this has any side effects, but so far it does work!
OpenCamera actually removes resolutions above a certain level because a bug on the Nexus 6, but I built a custom version for the A8 (and other devices as well) that disables this feature.
I also enabled using the flash while using manual ISO and exposure, since it's also disabled because of a bug that doesn't exist on the A8.
Open Camera is not created by me, the official website for it is here!
I just modified it to do the stuff above.
So, steps to record in over 4k resolution:
Download and install the modified Open Camera attached (delete old one if installed)
Start the app and go to settings.
Enable Camera 2 API
Set the video resolution to whatever you want!
Voilla, you have a 4k capable phone camera!
Tested on AOSPExtended 6.5 on pie vendor, and HavocOS 2.7 on oreo vendor.
If for some reason this was already known then sorry, I didn't find anything regarding this.
Note: The apk is an unsigned, debug apk.
Source included in zip (because of license). It's pretty much just a few lines commented out, so I didn't bother using git.
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As I found out (thanks tho Athaxis and Samsungoogle for bringing it up!) this "mod" doesn't properly work on OneUI based roms!
It does do something to an extent, but anything above 3264x2448 doesn't work. This is the highest you can go on OneUI.
Also (thanks to Samsungoogle for noticing this, again!) apparently the OneUI Samsung Gallery/Video viewer can't play videos created this way! You can use other video players though!
I don't know if it works on older Samsung ROMs or not, but it did work on treble, specifically AOSPExtended 6.5.
There I was able to use the full 16MP (4608x3456) resolution for videos!
Please let me know what ROM this mod works on!
Only one word: FENOMENALE (A8 2018)
Amazing job! Though I'm getting "failed to record" video at 4k resolution.
Wow this is great- however when I try to record at the hishest few resolutions, it says cannot record. It does at the 7.99mp one though. It's still much better than 1080p. Also this seems to be a Samsung issue but the Samsung gallery can't view it while Google photos can.
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Amazing job! Though I'm getting "failed to record" video at 4k resolution.
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Samsungoogle said:
Wow this is great- however when I try to record at the hishest few resolutions, it says cannot record. It does at the 7.99mp one though. It's still much better than 1080p. Also this seems to be a Samsung issue but the Samsung gallery can't view it while Google photos can.
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Thanks, and now that I tried it with an OneUI based ROM, I realized, it doesn't work with it, only the 7.99mp one. If you want even higher resolution recordings, it works better with treble gsis (at least I was able to record at the full resolution of the camera on AOSPExtended 6.5 GSI).
Thanks for the feedback tho, I wouldn't have realized this without you!
I'm adding this to the main thing.
What about 1080p 60fps?
EverLost123 said:
What about 1080p 60fps?
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I think it's locked at 30fps from the system or something as we don't have slo mo (which uses like 240fps) while other devices with same camera module and worse CPU (A40, A30) have it. It would be cool if there is a way to enable 60+FPS video thoush
I really hate this marketing strategy of companies limiting video capacity based on whatever parameters they use
Any phone released today has the processing power for recording 4K30 or [email protected], the Note 3 with the Ancient outdated Snapdragon 800 had it, why can't we?? Oh because we aren't using the top of the line S or Note... At least we can force 4K 30, but why not 60FPS? seems complete bs to me
Btw the Moto G6 has 60fps mode and the Moto G7 has both 4K30 and 1080/60, phones that are well behind the price level of most Samsung upper-tier A-series models
EverLost123 said:
I really hate this marketing strategy of companies limiting video capacity based on whatever parameters they use
Any phone released today has the processing power for recording 4K30 or [email protected], the Note 3 with the Ancient outdated Snapdragon 800 had it, why can't we?? Oh because we aren't using the top of the line S or Note... At least we can force 4K 30, but why not 60FPS? seems complete bs to me
Btw the Moto G6 has 60fps mode and the Moto G7 has both 4K30 and 1080/60, phones that are well above the price level of most Samsung upper-tier A-series models
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Yeah, I agree. Why should I 'upgrade' to an A40 as an example for 240fps slo motion video (doesn't have 60fps but I think that can be forced by a mod) when it's a downgrade in everything else. Same with software updates, instead of seeing specs the android companies just see what os it launched with and give it 2 or 3 more updates - for example the note Fe gets pie while s7 doesn't with same specs.
To me it's just one of Samsung's ways to get people to buy flagships as midrange devices are getting very good anyway when it comes to power.
For another example the ancient and slow iPhone 6 with 1gb ram can do 1080p 60 and 720 at 240fps. That is on the level of budget phone CPU power now, and yet it can do this?
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Yeah, I agree. Why should I 'upgrade' to an A40 as an example for 240fps slo motion video (doesn't have 60fps but I think that can be forced by a mod) when it's a downgrade in everything else. Same with software updates, instead of seeing specs the android companies just see what os it launched with and give it 2 or 3 more updates - for example the note Fe gets pie while s7 doesn't with same specs.
To me it's just one of Samsung's ways to get people to buy flagships as midrange devices are getting very good anyway when it comes to power.
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Exactly, the Galaxy A8 is really a small step behind the S8 honestly, yeah it has some advantages but sometimes it just doesn't justify the price for most people
Also some weird things like the A3 2017 having Type C already but later the Galaxy A6 and A7 having MicroUSB, ?????????????
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Exactly, the Galaxy A8 is really a small step above the S8 honestly, yeah it has some advantages but sometimes it just doesn't justify the price for most people
Also some weird things like the A3 2017 having Type C already but later the Galaxy A6 and A7 having MicroUSB, ?????????????
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Yeah that's why I got an A8 over the a7 (as well as notif led, metal sides and ip68)
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Yeah that's why I got an A8 over the a7 (as well as notif led, metal sides and ip68)
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(btw i was using the word above when i wanted to say behind lol i feel like an idiot)
Also the Galaxy A7 is a lot bigger than the a8 (not the plus)
It's very hard today to find powerful but small phones besides the S series
Besides the A8 only the A40 is small and powerful today, but it still lacks some features of higher-end devices like IP68
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(btw i was using the word above when i wanted to say behind lol i feel like an idiot)
Also the Galaxy A7 is a lot bigger than the a8 (not the plus)
It's very hard today to find powerful but small phones besides the S series
Besides the A8 only the A40 is small and powerful today, but it still lacks some features of higher-end devices like IP68
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Yeah I really hope next year the a51 is the small one as that would have good specs. If they brought back metal body (glass not necessary) and ip68 it would be perfect upgrade from the A8. Also 1080p60 and 4k obviously
Trying to save the Galaxy a8 2018
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Yeah I really hope next year the a51 is the small one as that would have good specs. If they brought back metal body (glass not necessary) and ip68 it would be perfect upgrade from the A8. Also 1080p60 and 4k obviously
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Hi bro, and guys, anyone got any solution for our A8 camera? I think a very good smartphone, but the camera could be better, I miss 60fps, is there any possible solution to this? I saw some posts here on xda about other devices that did not have 60fps and use Exynos, but I do not understand anything to develop.
Please, let's try saving this smartphone.
Here is the link from some of the posts I found.
sorry for my bad english.
let's try to save this device
links: https://www.xda-developers.com/enable-4k60fps-video-exynos-samsung-galaxy-note-8-galaxy-s8/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/themes/galaxy-s8-exynos-4kfps-root-tested-t3846415
Is the hardware capable of recording high speed video? I would love to see 60fps from my device.
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Is the hardware capable of recording high speed video? I would love to see 60fps from my device.
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Yeah, its pretty clear Samsung's disabled it though as the A7 2018 gets it. I mean they aren't even giving us android 10 they hate this phone for some reason, just want us to upgrade to the A71 or something. Although it could be because of the fact this phone came with only 32gb storage (still regret that 64gb wasn't in my country) which would mean 60fps video would use a lot of that storage quickly
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Yeah, its pretty clear Samsung's disabled it though as the A7 2018 gets it. I mean they aren't even giving us android 10 they hate this phone for some reason, just want us to upgrade to the A71 or something. Although it could be because of the fact this phone came with only 32gb storage (still regret that 64gb wasn't in my country) which would mean 60fps video would use a lot of that storage quickly
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But it has an SD card slot.
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But it has an SD card slot.
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Yeah true but Samsung uses every excuse they have to destroy this phone they hate so much for no reason whatsoever
maybe im just missing it, but i can't download the file,could anybody help me?
where is the download link ??
Hi All
I just picked up the Oppo 10x zoom for a very decent price. Hadn't been specifically considering it but wanted a good, flexible camera and everything else is so expensive now. I knew that the phone didn't support saving RAW files in the camera app but thought it was worth the trade off given its low price. I'm coming from an LG G6.
I've installed Gcam and this does seem to provide RAW with the main lens, but to get the wide and telephoto lenses would require me to root, which I am not prepared to do (and even then I don't know if there are any configs that would allow using them anyway). I should say that I am not 100% sure this is true raw, although it saved as a .dng file.
I assume that Oppo doesn't intend to add this feature in the future because they would already have done so. But, I thought it might be worth asking: does anyone know if they might? I presume this hasn't been added with ColorOS 7? (I believe that the Find X2 Pro supports RAW for example).
Many thanks and hope everyone is doing well in this strange times.
Charley
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Hi All
I just picked up the Oppo 10x zoom for a very decent price. Hadn't been specifically considering it but wanted a good, flexible camera and everything else is so expensive now. I knew that the phone didn't support saving RAW files in the camera app but thought it was worth the trade off given its low price. I'm coming from an LG G6.
I've installed Gcam and this does seem to provide RAW with the main lens, but to get the wide and telephoto lenses would require me to root, which I am not prepared to do (and even then I don't know if there are any configs that would allow using them anyway). I should say that I am not 100% sure this is true raw, although it saved as a .dng file.
I assume that Oppo doesn't intend to add this feature in the future because they would already have done so. But, I thought it might be worth asking: does anyone know if they might? I presume this hasn't been added with ColorOS 7? (I believe that the Find X2 Pro supports RAW for example).
Many thanks and hope everyone is doing well in this strange times.
Charley
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With the 10xz being capable of RAW photography, I can't see any reason why Oppo don't implement it in their camera software as it is using camera2.api
It's a bit embarrassing that the awful GCam supports it and Oppo camera doesn't. If it did, it would certainly make it one the the best Android camera systems
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With the 10xz being capable of RAW photography, I can't see any reason why Oppo don't implement it in their camera software as it is using camera2.api
It's a bit embarrassing that the awful GCam supports it and Oppo camera doesn't. If it did, it would certainly make it one the the best Android camera systems
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I can understand why Oppo might want to limit RAW support to the 'Expert' mode, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason to not allow it at all. Especially given the photo-focused nature of the camera. I know that RAW files out of phones can sometimes look really bad because the phone makes so many changes to the image data from the sensor when it creates the final jpeg. But I am prepared to make those adjustments myself.
I updated to the c.27 ColorOS 7 update last night and they have made some nice layout changes to the camera app - I am particularly pleased with the move to a 5x rather than a 6x zoom step. So, they are still investing some time in supporting the 10x Zoom.
On GCam, the RAW file produced is not recognised by my desktop editing programme, DXO Photolab 3, but Snapseed on the phone does seem to recognise it as a proper .dng RAW file. Regardless, I would have thought OPPO itself could enable RAW properly - perhaps include it with an update to allow video recording from all three lenses (which again must be technically possible because it can be done in the developer debugging mode).
For what it's worth I contacted Oppo UK to ask about adding RAW file support to the 10x Zoom. They replied really quickly, which was good. They said they would feed this back to relevant people, which is all one can expect. But I think it's worth giving the feedback anyway.
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For what it's worth I contacted Oppo UK to ask about adding RAW file support to the 10x Zoom. They replied really quickly, which was good. They said they would feed this back to relevant people, which is all one can expect. But I think it's worth giving the feedback anyway.
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It's a step.
Yep.
I've been doing some more experimenting with the RAW files. An easier way to get a .DNG file is to use Open Camera (or a number of others do the same thing) - this doesn't require installing from a .APK like GCam.
Snapseed seems to see these as true RAW files and the ones from Open Camera are the a much larger file size than the jpegs (~22mb). I've tried editing a couple and they do seem to give the kind of latitude I would expect with a RAW file (given its a phone sensor). Again only with the main camera. This is of some use if you want to do things like B&W conversions as this should be better quality going from RAW to a B&W jpeg then using the camera's B&W filter or converting a colour jpeg to B&W. It might also be useful if you want to bring out the shadows or try and save highlights, I would expect results to be slightly better than the phone's auto settings. But, this may not be by much, and may not be worth the hassle of RAW. What's probably more useful is tweaking the image's colours and sharpness to suite your taste for important photographs.
What I am not clear on:
The .DNG files are not recognised by DXO Labs 3 - which they should be if they were true .DNG files. I've even tried converting them with Adobe's DNG converter, but still no luck. This makes me suspicious.
The .DNG files are saved as 12mp files, so they have been through the pixel binning process. I don't know when Oppo applies the conversion from pixel-binned file to jpeg. If it goes 48mp RAW -> 48mp jpeg -> pixel binned 12mp jpeg, then these can't be true RAW files. If it's 48mp RAW -> 12mp pixel-binned RAW -> 12mp jpeg, they could be.
It is frustrating though that the tele and wide sensors are not available to the Camera2 API. Especially as I think the Oppo Find X2 Pro's telephoto sensor is the same as the 10x zoom's and does allow RAW.
I'll continue to play around and put any significant finds in this thread.
I managed to make RAW photos with FreeDCam. - https://f-droid.org/en/packages/troop.com.freedcam/
FreeDCam seems to support all 4 cameras, so you can also make raw photos with the telephoto lens for example.
Unfortunately I did not managed to take photos with 48M pixels, yet.
It is opensource, so maybe 48M pixel support could be added. Unfortunately, again, I do not have time to do so right now...