YA60pT (Yet another 60p Video Thread ) - Nexus 6P General

60fps works see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...fps-video-recording-libchanger-t3424621/page3

defcomg said:
Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google as I don't have a camera 2 device I'm attaching a test apk set to 120fps I wanna see if its working if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p from that we could set fps range to 60,60
Two part test if preview running at 120fps and if recording working
Log cat the test also if any error occurs
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!

CyberZeus_Viva said:
A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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Done basically install the apk see if it works or not

You should change "60p" to "60 fps". I think you're confusing vertical resolution with fps.
Regardless, I'm glad we're talking about this. 30 fps video is dumb and objectively much worse than 60 fps. Google's priorities here are totally wrong.
Btw, video preview is running at around 5-10 fps, and app FCs when you start recording. That's on a non-rooted 6.0.1.

I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.

iRub1Out said:
I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
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You are mistaken, google doesn't care for it either.

Which, reading their reply, is total BS.
Theyre focusing on making it stable? They've had more than enough time to do that, it's plenty stable - given their resources and the fact that they designed it on their own platform. Not to mention the existence of 120/240 fps making it painfully obvious that this is either laziness or an oversight (neither are excusable) for not having included a 60fps option, my S5 had that for gods sake, a phone that launched in April of '14 had this ability. Along with each successor to the Galaxy line, iphones, LG, I cant think of a flagship that can't do it?
Maybe I'm (we're?) in the minority in believing that it's pathetic to have a phone with the capabilities this one does, but lacks a function that very few - if any - new phones also lack that would really make the videos taken on the device a lot better. I'ts getting frustrating that Google, and the Nexus brand, are supposed to be top of the line and cutting edge - for the most part - but have, seemingly on purpose, chosen to exclude some of the key desirable components that customers want. Wireless charging (i know it was left out to make it thinner) but still... and these were two things I really hoped for, I think the 6P was a step in the wrong direction. Huawei really treated me like **** when they sent me the wrong 6P (the bastard model that excluded band 10 for some dumb reason) and refused to allow me to exchange or return it no matter what.
If Huawei makes the 2016 Nexus, I will gladly wash my hands of it, there's no way that company will ever get my business again.

I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30

I've pushed modified blob and app source to git @ https://github.com/defcomk/c2Vid as stated I have no camera 2 device so I go by logcats .
Anyway the source is there added some log lines as from the crash I could not see what exactly caused the crash

feis said:
I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
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From the leaked Qualcomm camera source code it looks like 60fps comes part of most libs and oems remove them for what reason I dunno but if you can find a device with same sensor and 60fps all that is needed is the registers for timmings and clocks and res entry but the later can be calculated.
There is hope for LG G5/One Plus 3/Mi5
HTC I tried but could only get it to 40fps in camera 1 mode Camera 2 mode the target fps range stuff maxed out at 30 perhaps when ae turned off in full manual it will work .in Camera 1 mode its another mess by htc where they broke qualcom video-hfr parameter in favour of their own video-mode which seems like a copy paste job from htc one m9 half then they broke it.
I patched hal as far as to allow fps range up to 120fps but the code that switches between the different sensor out put res mode was crippled.
I dunno if Camera2 was intended to even support 60p the only method I see is using HighSpeedCapture mode which only recognizes >=120 .
So in the blob pushed to git 1080p is set to max fps of 120 so it shows up in The high-speed mode .
In the root of the repo is text file showing imx377 configs

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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.

eqbirvin said:
Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol

feis said:
They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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I mean most people complain about slow start times of the camera on tge n6p anyway so I'd hate to see it slowed even further. While Samsung isn't exactly the best developers, they have a massive amount of devs I'm sure. But I still agree. If they can do it, Google and others should be able to also.

Just to clarify, my dislike for Huawei stems far beyond this issue. I will link to the thread (if anyone wants it) where I outline the month-long ordeal where they constantly lied to me about having a tech call me back, refunding my purchase, allowing me to return my 128GB 6P - all because they sent me the A2 style 6P, not the A1 style which everyone else on this continent got, and I purchased 4 other identical 6Ps in that same order, but one was a bastard model that lacked band 10, a band that is necessary for it to work for me on USCC (works on everyone else though) - Google NEVER sold the A2 style, only the A1 (which included band 10) and works perfectly fine. Of the 4 phones purchased, 3 were the A1 style, 1 was the A2 style, and this was never an option when ordered since...there was never more than 1 style that was publically known. They gave me a phone with missing hardware, refused to replace/return/rectify the situation in any form.
Anyway, THATS why I will never do business with them again. Their CS is absolute bull**** and they lie to their customers when they have legitimate issues that THEY caused.
The 60fps issue is on Google, it would be sweet to have, and I can't see any reasonable logic to not including it with the app on the phone? Thats all.

Cleaned up the bickering, let's all play nicely together please.
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defcomg said:
Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google,
as I don't have a camera 2 device to test I'm attaching a test apk below
FPS is set 120fps I wanna see if its working , if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p.
With 120fps 1080p we could set fps range to 60,60 allowing 60p video.
This is a Two part test .
A) if preview running at 120fps
B)if video recording is working
Logcat the test if any error occurs
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CyberZeus_Viva said:
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?

shuckeru said:
i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/

shuckeru said:
i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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does it modify the camera app? no
does it replace the camera app? also, no
does it introduce a new fps mode? yes
did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps? It's more complicated than that, and OP is still working things out.
iRub1Out said:
I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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-That app was created for another device so the lag is expected and Yes defcomk is creating a software mod and will enable the FPS we deserve. some good progress but nothing solid yet. (patience)
-This won't bork your camera lol
-Regarding L Camera, it was capable but was more of a test being that it got the job done on the Nexus 5 but with lot's of sacrifices and such. hence the reason it was more of a way of just testing camera 2 api. The IMX377 sensor on our phone is more than capable but defcomk is still deep in testing.

iRub1Out said:
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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well, it does this for me too which is unfortunate.

I don't really understand what's the problem? Can't someone just make a camera app that records at 120fps and just saves one frame and throws away the other? There you go 60fps.
Or you could edit the video yourself and remove every second frame?

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Evo 3D Camera Sensor Information

Does anyone know the exact model number of the camera sensor on our phones?
I have heard that it is built by OmniVision but I'm not sure about this.
I was trying to do some research to see if 1080p video recording would be possible.
http://www.ovt.com/applications/application.php?id=3
Looking through the list, it looks like every 5MP sensor is capable of 1080p @30 fps. We know our CPUs can handle 1080p because the sensation can manage it just fine with the same CPU. Anyone have any information?
I said it before...but why would htc NOT include 1080p? Its a selling point...they did it for a reason probaly.
borgqueenx said:
I said it before...but why would htc NOT include 1080p? Its a selling point...they did it for a reason probaly.
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Yeah, we wouldn't know. But if the sensor is an OmniVision, we know it must support 1080p because every 5MP sensor made by OmniVision does. We also know our CPUs can handle 1080p. HTC must have removed 1080p support for some other reason.
s5k6aafx Samsung sensor
charnsingh_online said:
s5k6aafx Samsung sensor
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Where did you find that information?
That is a 1.3 MP sensor, if anything it could be the front facing camera sensor. Samsung says it can do [email protected] 24 fps, not that we would use it for that.
borgqueenx said:
I said it before...but why would htc NOT include 1080p? Its a selling point...they did it for a reason probaly.
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and you can keep saying it all you want but its 99.9999% fact that the phone can do it and the software is the only thing holding it back right now.
it is VERY likely that they didn't include it b/c of bugs, just like they removed the transparant rosie, and panaramic pictures that were shown at its unvailing.
likely we see all of these things in future OTA's...
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and you can keep saying it all you want but its 99.9999% fact that the phone can do it and the software is the only thing holding it back right now.
it is VERY likely that they didn't include it b/c of bugs, just like they removed the transparant rosie, and panaramic pictures that were shown at its unvailing.
likely we see all of these things in future OTA's...
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True, they did do that with 720p video recording on the dInc. I think the secondary problem is the logistics involved in moving that many pixels...reliable storage speed. I think the primary problem is likely feeding the sensor a reliable amount of light to keep the frame rate from getting more embarrassing than the 720p already is....sadly
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poweroutlet said:
Does anyone know the exact model number of the camera sensor on our phones?
I have heard that it is built by OmniVision but I'm not sure about this.
I was trying to do some research to see if 1080p video recording would be possible.
http://www.ovt.com/applications/application.php?id=3
Looking through the list, it looks like every 5MP sensor is capable of 1080p @30 fps. We know our CPUs can handle 1080p because the sensation can manage it just fine with the same CPU. Anyone have any information?
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A 5MP is more than twice the pixels needed for 1080p which is just a hair over 2MP. That also means that we are more than capable of capturing 1080p in 3D as well...in fact, why the hell couldn't we capture 5mp 3D stills?
I think 5mp 3D stills is a much easier thing to accomplish. I mean, sure, we probably can get it to capture 1080p video, but, frame rate would probably totally blow.
...now that I'm thinking about it, we don't get full 720p 3D, we get what is called 720p SBS-half, meaning that we lose half of our resolution to do 3D even though the sensors are totally capable of doing SBS-full...that seems like another doable hack.
...what if one camera was serviced exclusively by one core and the file reassembled afterwards? That would make 720p SBS-full logistically easier, but then we run into the reliable write-speed problem again...
You can all ac like smartasses(no offensse) but if i would be htc and i knew the optimus3d rocks, i definatly would made 5mp 3d photos possible. Unless the hardware posed problems.
borgqueenx said:
You can all ac like smartasses(no offensse) but if i would be htc and i knew the optimus3d rocks, i definatly would made 5mp 3d photos possible. Unless the hardware posed problems.
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dunno how you get us being smartasses? just informing you the truth and facts of the matter.
one would of thought HTC would of included panaramic photos too but they had bugs in it so they took it out at last min and plan to add it back in future OTA. same should be for the 1080p.
its not a hardware limitation.
Or they are "unfixable bugs". You guys have some awesome devs here but no, 5mp 3d photos are in my mind impossible. A company that also makes nice hardware surely do not have bad software writers. Okay not the best, but good enough to probaly see its not possible. Also the o3d cant make 5mp 3d photos...i think that says enough.
borgqueenx said:
Or they are "unfixable bugs". You guys have some awesome devs here but no, 5mp 3d photos are in my mind impossible. A company that also makes nice hardware surely do not have bad software writers. Okay not the best, but good enough to probaly see its not possible. Also the o3d cant make 5mp 3d photos...i think that says enough.
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im talkin bout 1080p recording more than anything else here as thats something that the hardware supports without a doubt.
just b/c they pull a feature at launch doesn't mean they have bad developers which is what you are inferring by saying if they pulled it then its unfixable b/c they "surely do not have bad software writers."
Go back read up some on other HTC phones and other makers for the matter b/c this happens all the time. company tries to push the max of the phone up till launch and then if can't iron out stuff 100% they pull it to implement it later in an OTA once fixed up.
This is what will be done with the panaramic camera shooting mode which was in the 3d at the launch at ctia and i was told it wa pulled b/c of bugs and would be released later in OTA. this feature is not hampered by hardware by anymeans nor is 1080p recording. Another example is the FPS limit on the Evo4G at launch. wasn't hardware limit there, and then bam an OTA unlocked it.
so point is just b/c feature is pulled or not included at launch doesnt mean it isn't going to be included. if hardware supports it, then it will happen. end of story.
sgt. slaughter said:
im talkin bout 1080p recording more than anything else here as thats something that the hardware supports without a doubt.
just b/c they pull a feature at launch doesn't mean they have bad developers which is what you are inferring by saying if they pulled it then its unfixable b/c they "surely do not have bad software writers."
Go back read up some on other HTC phones and other makers for the matter b/c this happens all the time. company tries to push the max of the phone up till launch and then if can't iron out stuff 100% they pull it to implement it later in an OTA once fixed up.
This is what will be done with the panaramic camera shooting mode which was in the 3d at the launch at ctia and i was told it wa pulled b/c of bugs and would be released later in OTA. this feature is not hampered by hardware by anymeans nor is 1080p recording. Another example is the FPS limit on the Evo4G at launch. wasn't hardware limit there, and then bam an OTA unlocked it.
so point is just b/c feature is pulled or not included at launch doesnt mean it isn't going to be included. if hardware supports it, then it will happen. end of story.
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I can believe in 1080p 2d since the o3d also has it...but no to higher res pictures in 3d (larger then 3.15mp)
borgqueenx said:
I can believe in 1080p 2d since the o3d also has it...but no to higher res pictures in 3d (larger then 3.15mp)
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yeah the 1080p 3d and such i dunno about b/c that was never even hinted at during the ctia event. the other stuff they pulled last minute was least there at one point and just didnt have time to polish it up.
Working on a backdoor for this problem now.
I found the settings for the camera in the /system/etc/media_profiles.xml file. The file seems to include settings for all the different resolutions and quality/send settings within the camera app. The first changes I made caused the app to fail to launch. I discovered that a reboot of the phone is not necessary between changes of the .xml file. Simply closing the camera app and re-opening it does the job. I restored my backup and the camera came up fine. Thanks to Root Explorer for auto-backing up any edited files.
I edited the VideoEncoderCap name=”m4v” code from 720p to 1080p resolutions, but in testing the resolutions remained at 720p. It would seem the app is an HTC app and that the settings might be found directly in there.
I'll update if I find more.
we all know 1080p was in the evo 3d probably sometime during when htc was testing it..htc probably didnt think it was working as well as they wanted to they de activated it just like they deactivated panorama and hdr but since it was there at one point in the rom then it can be activated back [htc never removes things completely just simply deactivates it] we just need to find where to activate it.
sgt. slaughter said:
dunno how you get us being smartasses? just informing you the truth and facts of the matter.
one would of thought HTC would of included panaramic photos too but they had bugs in it so they took it out at last min and plan to add it back in future OTA. same should be for the 1080p.
its not a hardware limitation.
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Because you didn't just agree with him and close the thread.

The two best camera apps

http://www.camerafv5.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
These two apps are amazing if you want more control of your camera.
I have been a pro photographer for years and shoot with a pro quality Canon DSLR.
Lately I have almost never felt like dragging that camera around with me, but like most people these days I ALWAYS have my phone with me.
I used to carry a tiny point and shoot Canon with me along with my phone but that's a PITA also. None of my previous phones really thrilled me with their camera performance (including the two Rezounds I still have) but the camera in my N2 has been giving me super results with these two apps.
CameraZoom FX is a little easier to use as it doesn't have a bar of controls across the bottom of the screen that you need to keep your fingers away from. FV-5 does have more features however (the controls are basically a clone of a DSLR) and it has one feature that no other camera app has. It has the ability to save as a png which is a RAW file with no jpeg compression.
PNGs take longer to save/view and are bigger files but give a higher quality image than a compressed jpeg.
CameraZoom has a feature that I use occasionally that will take a picture with a voice command. Set it on that and then say smile and a few seconds later it shoots the image. Here is a pic I took with CameraZoom inside using available light. I printed an 8"x10" print from this and nobody can believe it came from a phone.
http://s361.beta.photobucket.com/user/jmorton10_photo/media/Camera-ZOOM_zpsbafd9ff2.jpg.html
I did a bunch more testing this morning after another poster said that the anti-shake feature drastically reduced image quality.
I never used that feature, I learned years ago to hold a camera dead still myself but I was curious about that claim.
Turns out, the poster was exactly right. The images I took using as basically suck.
They are MUCH grainier than the exact same shot without that feature turned on.
I believe voice commands are available with s-voice and the stock camera.
billku said:
I believe voice commands are available with s-voice and the stock camera.
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I didn't realize that, I stumbled across the feature in CameraZoom while looking for something else.
There are so many cool options in these two apps that some are bound to duplicate the stock app features, but these two apps make all these options MUCH easier to get to and to use.
EDIT: I just looked through the options/settings in the stock TW camera app and didn't see any option for voice activation.
It may still be there and I overlooked it, but this just reinforces what I knew all along, all the options in these other apps are easily available with one fast click. You don't have to dig through menus of stuff trying to find or enable/disable a feature.
jmorton10 said:
http://www.camerafv5.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
These two apps are amazing if you want more control of your camera.
I have been a pro photographer for years and shoot with a pro quality Canon DSLR.
Lately I have almost never felt like dragging that camera around with me, but like most people these days I ALWAYS have my phone with me.
I used to carry a tiny point and shoot Canon with me along with my phone but that's a PITA also. None of my previous phones really thrilled me with their camera performance (including the two Rezounds I still have) but the camera in my N2 has been giving me super results with these two apps.
CameraZoom FX is a little easier to use as it doesn't have a bar of controls across the bottom of the screen that you need to keep your fingers away from. FV-5 does have more features however (the controls are basically a clone of a DSLR) and it has one feature that no other camera app has. It has the ability to save as a png which is a RAW file with no jpeg compression.
PNGs take longer to save/view and are bigger files but give a higher quality image than a compressed jpeg.
CameraZoom has a feature that I use occasionally that will take a picture with a voice command. Set it on that and then say smile and a few seconds later it shoots the image. Here is a pic I took with CameraZoom inside using available light. I printed an 8"x10" print from this and nobody can believe it came from a phone.
http://s361.beta.photobucket.com/user/jmorton10_photo/media/Camera-ZOOM_zpsbafd9ff2.jpg.html
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I use Camera FV-5 over the stock camera just because of the quality of pics it takes.
I too find the N2 camera to be quite good and I just purchased FV5 to see how far I can take it. I haven't spent very much time with it yet however.
One thing I love about my DSLR is that I can set separate buttons for focus and exposure. Any way to do that with FV5?
webleeper said:
I use Camera FV-5 over the stock camera just because of the quality of pics it takes.
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I agree 100%.
I'm not saying you can't take a good pic with the stock camera app, but it's much easier and a lot more fun using an app like FV-5.
It definitely beats the stock app quality wise if you save as a png file which is not even an option with the stock camera (I'm not sure why not)
johnnyvol said:
I too find the N2 camera to be quite good and I just purchased FV5 to see how far I can take it. I haven't spent very much time with it yet however.
One thing I love about my DSLR is that I can set separate buttons for focus and exposure. Any way to do that with FV5?
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Not exactly how you're saying, but you can lock both the AF and the exposure so you can recompose and keep the exposure or AF point.
If you read through all the options/help docs etc on the site I posted it will explain all the options pretty well actually.
http://www.camerafv5.com/tutorials/camera_manual.php
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...zdGFydmluZ21pbmQuYW5kcm9pZC5zaG90Y29udHJvbCJd
This is another good app.
The preview screen is smaller, but it gives you access to all the settings from one screen.
jmorton10 said:
Not exactly how you're saying, but you can lock both the AF and the exposure so you can recompose and keep the exposure or AF point.
If you read through all the options/help docs etc on the site I posted it will explain all the options pretty well actually.
http://www.camerafv5.com/tutorials/camera_manual.php
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Exposure lock, that's it. I was having a brain fart. Thanks for the link!
WOW, talk about good service. I was using the shot control app I posted and realized the ISO setting did not work.
I sent the developer an email about it and 20 minutes later I got this response:
On Jan 9, 2013 3:46 PM, "Peter Daly" <[email protected]> wrote:
Samsung has chosen to not make ISO visible for third party developers on your device, so I must guess at how it is controlled, and hard code that method that works on your device.* You are the first to contact me about the Verizon variation of the Note 2.
Please install the attached version, and let me know if it seems that ISO is working correctly.* Based on what I know of the other versions of that device, I give this a 75% chance of working.
Thank you for any help, and thank you for contacting me.
Pete
Attached was a new version of the app and it works perfectly.
That's great. At your recommendation i purchased FV5 and i'm very impressed so far.
tdrussell said:
That's great. At your recommendation i purchased FV5 and i'm very impressed so far.
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Yea me too.
FV-5 is my favorite, I find it's the closest thing to DSLR controls.
jmorton10 said:
WOW, talk about good service. I was using the shot control app I posted and realized the ISO setting did not work.
I sent the developer an email about it and 20 minutes later I got this response:
On Jan 9, 2013 3:46 PM, "Peter Daly" <[email protected]> wrote:
Samsung has chosen to not make ISO visible for third party developers on your device, so I must guess at how it is controlled, and hard code that method that works on your device.* You are the first to contact me about the Verizon variation of the Note 2.
Please install the attached version, and let me know if it seems that ISO is working correctly.* Based on what I know of the other versions of that device, I give this a 75% chance of working.
Thank you for any help, and thank you for contacting me.
Pete
Attached was a new version of the app and it works perfectly.
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Wait so let me get this straight...
ONLY the Verizon Galaxy Note 2 has something special about making it harder for the app to access the ISO settings? Did I read that right?

Why can't the camera have BOTH of best worlds?

The camera's manual mode is darn good. After som shooting, I can see that. It's especially good for stills.
BUT that auto mode is average to not good. I hear some chatter that this camera is for content creators --- those who don't want just auto mode.
I guess the question is --- why can't we have it both ways? What am I missing? Why can't auto jpegs be processed well (pixel-like, for those want it), along with a great manual features? My ILC can do both --- and it's only got one sensor. So, what gives here? I'm just not sure why we need to compromise.
Put simply, there are some situations where I want to shoot manual and some that I just want to shoot in P&S mode.
The best picture isn't always technically the best one, but rather what can be caught in focus in the frame. Seems reasonable to me.
You can use Google Camera for HDR+ Auto Mode. It also generate Raw files for post-processing if jpeg is not good enough.
Link for you: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
For example: photo with more colors is hdr+ auto mode. Other is raw with snapseed.
Which port do you recommend??? Thanks much.
coldbeverage said:
The camera's manual mode is darn good. After som shooting, I can see that. It's especially good for stills.
BUT that auto mode is average to not good. I hear some chatter that this camera is for content creators --- those who don't want just auto mode.
I guess the question is --- why can't we have it both ways? What am I missing? Why can't auto jpegs be processed well (pixel-like, for those want it), along with a great manual features? My ILC can do both --- and it's only got one sensor. So, what gives here? I'm just not sure why we need to compromise.
Put simply, there are some situations where I want to shoot manual and some that I just want to shoot in P&S mode.
The best picture isn't always technically the best one, but rather what can be caught in focus in the frame. Seems reasonable to me.
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Your ILC is a dedicated camera. Everything in it is designed for one job and one job only, to produce the best image possible with the processing chips and jpg engines all dedicated to this end. That's all it does, that whole box. A cellphone is a jack of all trades and there's a saying about jack of all trades, master of none. At no point would I ever put a current cellphone up against a current dedicated camera for imaging. The camera will win every time. Cellphones have encouraged an attitude of good enough when in reality, we know it isn't. To be certain, cellphones these days do a lot better than the first DSLRs and definitely better than my first digital camera.
Problem is that a cellphone is literally everything crammed into one tiny space. Music player, computer, internet modem, phone, television screen, video camera, and camera.... er, make that cameras. All of that screaming for limited space and resources, battery and processors. A dedicated camera is one sensor and it is usually much larger than any cellphone camera sensor. That one sensor usually has room to breath, literally, to help keep it from overheating and not stress the hardware. Cellphones don't get that luxury. A dedicated camera has dedicated AF systems, often times an entirely dedicated set of sensors just for that. Metering is also an entirely separate area of development and testing.
So while we have been lulled into thinking cellphones are great cameras, in reality, they aren't. There's still a lot of times that it is best to have a dedicated camera.
Right, agreed, but it seems to often come down to a software issue in the cameras. Have full manual controls for manual purposes and have good auto processing. Or, am I still missing the point? I could be very wrong here.
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Right, agreed, but it seems to often come down to a software issue in the cameras. Have full manual controls for manual purposes and have good auto processing. Or, am I still missing the point? I could be very wrong here.
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Again, software will be the same problem. For a dedicated camera company, you have an entire company coming up with the engines and algo's going into the camera. Versus a cellphone company having to split their development between a lot of teams but they're going to be pretty small and at best, just able to tweak previous versions of software for their small corner of the device. The company I work for does software for a lot of various things a pharmacy might want to do. We have around 4 devs per team to pull off all the things in a pharmacy. Whereas there are some companies out there that do just one of the things we do and dedicate a much larger team to it. (Up to 100 people working on one piece of software vs our overall team of maybe 10.) That's the difference between a cellphone and a dedicated camera.
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Which port do you recommend??? Thanks much.
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Latest stable port in my link. You have to test some settings to get the best result. Also I hear that Oreo version has improved camera.
starrynighthn said:
Latest stable port in my link. You have to test some settings to get the best result. Also I hear that Oreo version has improved camera.
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Thanks. A couple of them work. Any advice on settings? I found some, but curious if you got something better.
CHH2 said:
Again, software will be the same problem. For a dedicated camera company, you have an entire company coming up with the engines and algo's going into the camera. Versus a cellphone company having to split their development between a lot of teams but they're going to be pretty small and at best, just able to tweak previous versions of software for their small corner of the device. The company I work for does software for a lot of various things a pharmacy might want to do. We have around 4 devs per team to pull off all the things in a pharmacy. Whereas there are some companies out there that do just one of the things we do and dedicate a much larger team to it. (Up to 100 people working on one piece of software vs our overall team of maybe 10.) That's the difference between a cellphone and a dedicated camera.
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I'm actually curious if there's any way to adjust LG's Auto settings. I think from what I've heard, the most common issues are that the photos come out over-exposed and over-processed and smoothed out. Is there any way to go into the LG's software and tone down the exposure brightness and smoothing a bit? I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it but I wonder if there is some sort of setting values we can change so that way everything else remains the same.

Over 4k video recording with modified Open Camera

Sorry if I'm posting this to the wrong place, but I just found out that the A8 can actually shoot video at the same resolution as pictures. I don't know if this has any side effects, but so far it does work!
OpenCamera actually removes resolutions above a certain level because a bug on the Nexus 6, but I built a custom version for the A8 (and other devices as well) that disables this feature.
I also enabled using the flash while using manual ISO and exposure, since it's also disabled because of a bug that doesn't exist on the A8.
Open Camera is not created by me, the official website for it is here!
I just modified it to do the stuff above.
So, steps to record in over 4k resolution:
Download and install the modified Open Camera attached (delete old one if installed)
Start the app and go to settings.
Enable Camera 2 API
Set the video resolution to whatever you want!
Voilla, you have a 4k capable phone camera!
Tested on AOSPExtended 6.5 on pie vendor, and HavocOS 2.7 on oreo vendor.
If for some reason this was already known then sorry, I didn't find anything regarding this.
Note: The apk is an unsigned, debug apk.
Source included in zip (because of license). It's pretty much just a few lines commented out, so I didn't bother using git.
EDIT:
IMPORTANT
As I found out (thanks tho Athaxis and Samsungoogle for bringing it up!) this "mod" doesn't properly work on OneUI based roms!
It does do something to an extent, but anything above 3264x2448 doesn't work. This is the highest you can go on OneUI.
Also (thanks to Samsungoogle for noticing this, again!) apparently the OneUI Samsung Gallery/Video viewer can't play videos created this way! You can use other video players though!
I don't know if it works on older Samsung ROMs or not, but it did work on treble, specifically AOSPExtended 6.5.
There I was able to use the full 16MP (4608x3456) resolution for videos!
Please let me know what ROM this mod works on!
Only one word: FENOMENALE (A8 2018)
Amazing job! Though I'm getting "failed to record" video at 4k resolution.
Wow this is great- however when I try to record at the hishest few resolutions, it says cannot record. It does at the 7.99mp one though. It's still much better than 1080p. Also this seems to be a Samsung issue but the Samsung gallery can't view it while Google photos can.
Athaxis said:
Amazing job! Though I'm getting "failed to record" video at 4k resolution.
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Samsungoogle said:
Wow this is great- however when I try to record at the hishest few resolutions, it says cannot record. It does at the 7.99mp one though. It's still much better than 1080p. Also this seems to be a Samsung issue but the Samsung gallery can't view it while Google photos can.
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Thanks, and now that I tried it with an OneUI based ROM, I realized, it doesn't work with it, only the 7.99mp one. If you want even higher resolution recordings, it works better with treble gsis (at least I was able to record at the full resolution of the camera on AOSPExtended 6.5 GSI).
Thanks for the feedback tho, I wouldn't have realized this without you!
I'm adding this to the main thing.
What about 1080p 60fps?
EverLost123 said:
What about 1080p 60fps?
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I think it's locked at 30fps from the system or something as we don't have slo mo (which uses like 240fps) while other devices with same camera module and worse CPU (A40, A30) have it. It would be cool if there is a way to enable 60+FPS video thoush
I really hate this marketing strategy of companies limiting video capacity based on whatever parameters they use
Any phone released today has the processing power for recording 4K30 or [email protected], the Note 3 with the Ancient outdated Snapdragon 800 had it, why can't we?? Oh because we aren't using the top of the line S or Note... At least we can force 4K 30, but why not 60FPS? seems complete bs to me
Btw the Moto G6 has 60fps mode and the Moto G7 has both 4K30 and 1080/60, phones that are well behind the price level of most Samsung upper-tier A-series models
EverLost123 said:
I really hate this marketing strategy of companies limiting video capacity based on whatever parameters they use
Any phone released today has the processing power for recording 4K30 or [email protected], the Note 3 with the Ancient outdated Snapdragon 800 had it, why can't we?? Oh because we aren't using the top of the line S or Note... At least we can force 4K 30, but why not 60FPS? seems complete bs to me
Btw the Moto G6 has 60fps mode and the Moto G7 has both 4K30 and 1080/60, phones that are well above the price level of most Samsung upper-tier A-series models
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Yeah, I agree. Why should I 'upgrade' to an A40 as an example for 240fps slo motion video (doesn't have 60fps but I think that can be forced by a mod) when it's a downgrade in everything else. Same with software updates, instead of seeing specs the android companies just see what os it launched with and give it 2 or 3 more updates - for example the note Fe gets pie while s7 doesn't with same specs.
To me it's just one of Samsung's ways to get people to buy flagships as midrange devices are getting very good anyway when it comes to power.
For another example the ancient and slow iPhone 6 with 1gb ram can do 1080p 60 and 720 at 240fps. That is on the level of budget phone CPU power now, and yet it can do this?
Samsungoogle said:
Yeah, I agree. Why should I 'upgrade' to an A40 as an example for 240fps slo motion video (doesn't have 60fps but I think that can be forced by a mod) when it's a downgrade in everything else. Same with software updates, instead of seeing specs the android companies just see what os it launched with and give it 2 or 3 more updates - for example the note Fe gets pie while s7 doesn't with same specs.
To me it's just one of Samsung's ways to get people to buy flagships as midrange devices are getting very good anyway when it comes to power.
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Exactly, the Galaxy A8 is really a small step behind the S8 honestly, yeah it has some advantages but sometimes it just doesn't justify the price for most people
Also some weird things like the A3 2017 having Type C already but later the Galaxy A6 and A7 having MicroUSB, ?????????????
EverLost123 said:
Exactly, the Galaxy A8 is really a small step above the S8 honestly, yeah it has some advantages but sometimes it just doesn't justify the price for most people
Also some weird things like the A3 2017 having Type C already but later the Galaxy A6 and A7 having MicroUSB, ?????????????
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Yeah that's why I got an A8 over the a7 (as well as notif led, metal sides and ip68)
Samsungoogle said:
Yeah that's why I got an A8 over the a7 (as well as notif led, metal sides and ip68)
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(btw i was using the word above when i wanted to say behind lol i feel like an idiot)
Also the Galaxy A7 is a lot bigger than the a8 (not the plus)
It's very hard today to find powerful but small phones besides the S series
Besides the A8 only the A40 is small and powerful today, but it still lacks some features of higher-end devices like IP68
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(btw i was using the word above when i wanted to say behind lol i feel like an idiot)
Also the Galaxy A7 is a lot bigger than the a8 (not the plus)
It's very hard today to find powerful but small phones besides the S series
Besides the A8 only the A40 is small and powerful today, but it still lacks some features of higher-end devices like IP68
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Yeah I really hope next year the a51 is the small one as that would have good specs. If they brought back metal body (glass not necessary) and ip68 it would be perfect upgrade from the A8. Also 1080p60 and 4k obviously
Trying to save the Galaxy a8 2018
Samsungoogle said:
Yeah I really hope next year the a51 is the small one as that would have good specs. If they brought back metal body (glass not necessary) and ip68 it would be perfect upgrade from the A8. Also 1080p60 and 4k obviously
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Hi bro, and guys, anyone got any solution for our A8 camera? I think a very good smartphone, but the camera could be better, I miss 60fps, is there any possible solution to this? I saw some posts here on xda about other devices that did not have 60fps and use Exynos, but I do not understand anything to develop.
Please, let's try saving this smartphone.
Here is the link from some of the posts I found.
sorry for my bad english.
let's try to save this device
links: https://www.xda-developers.com/enable-4k60fps-video-exynos-samsung-galaxy-note-8-galaxy-s8/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/themes/galaxy-s8-exynos-4kfps-root-tested-t3846415
Is the hardware capable of recording high speed video? I would love to see 60fps from my device.
Zipdox said:
Is the hardware capable of recording high speed video? I would love to see 60fps from my device.
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Yeah, its pretty clear Samsung's disabled it though as the A7 2018 gets it. I mean they aren't even giving us android 10 they hate this phone for some reason, just want us to upgrade to the A71 or something. Although it could be because of the fact this phone came with only 32gb storage (still regret that 64gb wasn't in my country) which would mean 60fps video would use a lot of that storage quickly
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Yeah, its pretty clear Samsung's disabled it though as the A7 2018 gets it. I mean they aren't even giving us android 10 they hate this phone for some reason, just want us to upgrade to the A71 or something. Although it could be because of the fact this phone came with only 32gb storage (still regret that 64gb wasn't in my country) which would mean 60fps video would use a lot of that storage quickly
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But it has an SD card slot.
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But it has an SD card slot.
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Yeah true but Samsung uses every excuse they have to destroy this phone they hate so much for no reason whatsoever
maybe im just missing it, but i can't download the file,could anybody help me?
where is the download link ??

Question Any gimbal working with Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra?

I wanted to buy DJI OSMO Mobile 6, but it seems that it lacks support even for S22 Ultra, so I suppose they will never make it work with S23 Ultra.
So what else can I buy?
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I wanted to buy DJI OSMO Mobile 6, but it seems that it lacks support even for S22 Ultra, so I suppose they will never make it work with S23 Ultra.
So what else can I buy?
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See, it depends on what you really need, I actually am using that currently for my s23 ultra, but only because I just needed something with stabilisation and something to hold my phone for still shots. It's sad the hardware doesn't work directly with the camera app, they have their own which is pretty lackluster, however all the features worked related to their product in their app.
erik2041999 said:
See, it depends on what you really need, I actually am using that currently for my s23 ultra, but only because I just needed something with stabilisation and something to hold my phone for still shots. It's sad the hardware doesn't work directly with the camera app, they have their own which is pretty lackluster, however all the features worked related to their product in their app.
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Can you specify what 'all the features worked related to their product in their app' means? I thought that S23 Ultra is not supported at all?
Is it possible to shoot 4k 60fps stabilized video?
Also is it possible to shoot photo (not video) panorama handheld?
Can you please post some video on which is visible how stable the phone is?
Thanks.
You misunderstood me, the features that they advertise do work, but most of it is because it's all done with their tripod + app. That's also the problem however, since their app is pretty lackluster, yes it'll do everything they said it can, but you have no control or options, for example I can use only 1080p 60fps recording. What I'm trying to say is that it can do all the stuff they say but you're only limited to what they offer in their app (Device support, yes it'll support any phone theoretically, however the options are limited to the support of the device), which isn't a lot, and you lose out all the stuff from the stock camera app. However if you just need a tripod that stabilises then it does that regardless of any further interaction, works out of box since it all happens on the tripod itself, however you'll need the app anyway to update the firmware of the tripod. I'll show you some photos from in the app when I get home from work.
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Can you specify what 'all the features worked related to their product in their app' means? I thought that S23 Ultra is not supported at all?
Is it possible to shoot 4k 60fps stabilized video?
Also is it possible to shoot photo (not video) panorama handheld?
Can you please post some video on which is visible how stable the phone is?
Thanks.
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erik2041999 said:
You misunderstood me, the features that they advertise do work, but most of it is because it's all done with their tripod + app. That's also the problem however, since their app is pretty lackluster, yes it'll do everything they said it can, but you have no control or options, for example I can use only 1080p 60fps recording. What I'm trying to say is that it can do all the stuff they say but you're only limited to what they offer in their app (Device support, yes it'll support any phone theoretically, however the options are limited to the support of the device), which isn't a lot, and you lose out all the stuff from the stock camera app. However if you just need a tripod that stabilises then it does that regardless of any further interaction, works out of box since it all happens on the tripod itself, however you'll need the app anyway to update the firmware of the tripod. I'll show you some photos from in the app when I get home from work.
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Oh I see. I need a tripod with stabilization.
I think I'll buy it from Amazon to see how it works. I can return it if I don't like it.
I'd appreciate if you post some photos and videos.
Thanks.
bgtip said:
Oh I see. I need a tripod with stabilization.
I think I'll buy it from Amazon to see how it works. I can return it if I don't like it.
I'd appreciate if you post some photos and videos.
Thanks.
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Exactly what I did, bought it from there, decided that it fulfills the basic necessities and kept it, like you said you can always return it. In terms of stabilisation itself it's actually not too bad in my opinion, however this is my first one ever so I can't say anything more besides that. And yeah I will.

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