Does anyone know if there is any development on the front to allow this?
its a vga camera.....
I succesfully got my front camera up to 2560z resomolution!
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I think what he meant by "on the front" was on the to do list....
Well the back camera far surpasses the requirements to shoot 1080p(2MP) because its 5MP. Weather the phone can handle capturing 1080p @ 30fps is dependent on the hardware. If it is then all we need is someone to write the software.
Didn't I see somewhere that the Euro-spec model already has 1080p capability, so that would indicate the hardware is capable?
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mikeyxda said:
Didn't I see somewhere that the Euro-spec model already has 1080p capability, so that would indicate the hardware is capable?
Mike
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We may not have the same hardware as the Euro version.
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Does anyone know if there is any development on the front to allow this?
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When we get S-OFF, we will get this among other awesome things for our Evo 3D. Next time, post this under Q & A.
I wonder if anyone here is delved deep enough into the inner workings of the camera system. Would it be possible, for example, to control the exposure settings independently for each lens?
That way, we could do *real* HDR shots that would blow the socks off the iPhone HDR stuff.
Of course, it wouldn't work for anything too close because of the distortion, but anything further away should work great.
Thoughts?
Would be a good idea!
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Agreed, HDR on my phone has been my dream for a while now. I plan on taking some skilled photos in 3d, and this would be awesome
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Speed Shooting
Would It Also Be Possible To Use Both Cameras For Speed Shooting?
Like Where One Would Take The Picture Then The Other Would Take It Again.
That Would Be Awesome.
This should be in q&a.....and I only say that because I opened this thread, not noticing the ?, thinking it was a working modification to the cameras. Might want to pm a mod and have it moved.
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This should be in q&a.....and I only say that because I opened this thread, not noticing the ?, thinking it was a working modification to the cameras. Might want to pm a mod and have it moved.
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I think this is in the correct area. Yes, it is a question. But it is a question geared towards a topic that will in all likelihood take some heavy development.
The ideas for HDR and speed shots (halving the time between pictures) are great and definitely something I would use if/when they can be implemented.
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Would It Also Be Possible To Use Both Cameras For Speed Shooting?
Like Where One Would Take The Picture Then The Other Would Take It Again.
That Would Be Awesome.
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If your memory card could handle it I'm sure it's possible. You would probably need access to the kernel source to do much of anything with it though.
Imagine a camera app where each core gets a camera hdw to read and process.
Imagine a camera app where we know what each core is doing !
@ OP - wrong section. You developed?
@ Spartan15A - check the market "fast burst camera", is frakking awesome...
BANG! from my shooter...
The Android Camera API only allows you to specify one Camera at a time so you'll need to overcome that obstacle first. Mostly you are limited to what the Android Camera API makes available to you. In some cases you can include additional non-standard properties that the vendor's implementation checks for. Another possibility is that HTC will release a library to make more of the Camera features available.
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The Android Camera API only allows you to specify one Camera at a time so you'll need to overcome that obstacle first. Mostly you are limited to what the Android Camera API makes available to you. In some cases you can include additional non-standard properties that the vendor's implementation checks for. Another possibility is that HTC will release a library to make more of the Camera features available.
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I wonder if the cameras are even accessible independently at all, or if it just defaults to one of the two.
Have you guys seen the Sony Panorama camera app? Is that using both cameras?
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Have you guys seen the Sony Panorama camera app? Is that using both cameras?
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Cool app - but I don't think it uses the second camera.
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I wonder if the cameras are even accessible independently at all, or if it just defaults to one of the two.
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http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/Camera.html#open(int)
Try that method out and see.
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I think this is in the correct area. Yes, it is a question.
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Why is this so hard for people to understand. You yourself just said its a question...so therefore it should be in q&a. Development is for developing...Not Asking Questions. To the op, nice idea.
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I wish when in 2D mode the camera towards the middle was used. I always have a finger over the outside camera.
But yeah, HTC could really let us do some cool stuff with both cameras in 2D mode.
Moved to proper forum.
Not sure why this was moved, as it is clearly a development question (is it possible to access the hardware cameras independently - and if so, how?) but whatever...
Here's another application that we could use the two cameras for:
http://gizmodo.com/5822623/two-lenses-will-fix-compact-cameras-depth-of-field-proposes-samsung
Would probably need to go through the actual patent doc to figure out exactly what the method is...
is there anyway to make it so that it stitches two 5mp pictures instead of two 2 megapixel pictures?
maybe in a rom?
just so that we can take 3d photos, but also have the 2d form where its actually nice to look at instead of a 2mp 2d picture.
just a thought.
Its two five mp cameras, not two 2 mps. Just checked it out in engadget and wirefly
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Its two five mp cameras, not two 2 mps. Just checked it out in engadget and wirefly
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yes i know, but when you take 3d pictures, its two 2mp pictures that are stitched together. you can notice it when you view a 3d picture in 2d.
Yeah
It really should be an option
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is there anyway to make it so that it stitches two 5mp pictures instead of two 2 megapixel pictures?
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yes, there might be a way. assuming this is a software limitation and not a hardware limitation.
to determine if its possible in the software, have to decompile and sort thru the closed source htc camera apk file. that is probably the only/best way to figure out the logic and coding htc uses.
is it possible? wouldn't know until we see the code.
see to be quite a few requests surrounding the camera on this device. perhaps it would be worth tweeting or mentioning on htc's facebook page as these types of requests seem popular. maybe they could release these added options in an OTA. would be even better if they just release the source code and we could compile/modify ourselves. in the mean time, next best option, decompile/modify the existing htc camera .apk!
hope that helps!
i am really interested in this too, could any of you smart people try to decompile ? i would done it myself if i only known anything about android but i don't.
so i hope someone could look into it !
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i am really interested in this too, could any of you smart people try to decompile ? i would done it myself if i only known anything about android but i don't.
so i hope someone could look into it !
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i'm not really a dev either, so if any devs maybe know a thing or two?
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please, couldn't some one please look into this ?
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I've been looking into the camera in the past few days. Take a look at my camera compression thread. I have a hypothesis as to why the resolution in 1920x1080 for each of the two images in 3D mode. Follow me here. In 2D mode @5MP (widescreen) the resolution is 2560 x 1440. This means that the 3D pictures are reduced by exactly 25% in each dimension. My hypothesis is that they use this extra 25% to post process (focus) the 3D image. If you think about it, the further away the focal point, the more the two images overlap. Likewise, the closer the focal point, the less the images overlap. They need to reserve this 25% in all cases because of the auto focus. It's kind of like how you go cross-eyed when focusing on something right in front of your nose.
EDIT: See my attachment for a visual representation of the wasted area
EDIT: Also see my chopped pictures. I took two pictures. The first in 2D and the second in 3D (converted back to 2D). I had the camera in the exact same spot for both pictures. You can see that the left part of the picture is chopped off in the 3Dto2D picture, but the detail is the same. It's like the image is just cropped.
Quick question. I've tried the camera mods on here and even attempted the Amaze camera app floating around the GSM page (I'm CDMA) just to play around. I've been using Synergy for a while now and maybe it's just that ROM but...
Does the HDR feature actually work? It takes pictures fine, says processing, but it's just a normal photo. HDR pics are supposed to at the very least use image mapping to lighten the dark areas and darken the light areas to even the photo out. True HDR snaps 3 pictures in different exposures to achieve this. It's just bugging me...
Wondering the same thing.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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Quick question. I've tried the camera mods on here and even attempted the Amaze camera app floating around the GSM page (I'm CDMA) just to play around. I've been using Synergy for a while now and maybe it's just that ROM but...
Does the HDR feature actually work? It takes pictures fine, says processing, but it's just a normal photo. HDR pics are supposed to at the very least use image mapping to lighten the dark areas and darken the light areas to even the photo out. True HDR snaps 3 pictures in different exposures to achieve this. It's just bugging me...
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No it doesn't, I think there is something kernel deep that needs to be present. If someone can get a hold of a sensation kernel & compile some of the added extras (ZSL, HDR, etc.) Into the EVO 3D kernel, It might work.
Thanks for clearing that up. I hope someone works those in.
There are too many cool things I want from the sensation. Not fair! It's so similar yet they have so many neat little things.
Zero Shutter Lag code in their kernels.
Ability to OC GPU.
HDR that works. Not fair.
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There are too many cool things I want from the sensation. Not fair! It's so similar yet they have so many neat little things.
Zero Shutter Lag code in their kernels.
Ability to OC GPU.
HDR that works. Not fair.
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That I'm sure one of our developers can do that one now but honestly I haven't run across any game/app that taxes the GPU. It'd still like to see what it looks like though.
But yeah, we need a kernel dev to work some magic with getting the drivers.
60fps works see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...fps-video-recording-libchanger-t3424621/page3
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Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google as I don't have a camera 2 device I'm attaching a test apk set to 120fps I wanna see if its working if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p from that we could set fps range to 60,60
Two part test if preview running at 120fps and if recording working
Log cat the test also if any error occurs
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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Done basically install the apk see if it works or not
You should change "60p" to "60 fps". I think you're confusing vertical resolution with fps.
Regardless, I'm glad we're talking about this. 30 fps video is dumb and objectively much worse than 60 fps. Google's priorities here are totally wrong.
Btw, video preview is running at around 5-10 fps, and app FCs when you start recording. That's on a non-rooted 6.0.1.
I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
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I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
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You are mistaken, google doesn't care for it either.
Which, reading their reply, is total BS.
Theyre focusing on making it stable? They've had more than enough time to do that, it's plenty stable - given their resources and the fact that they designed it on their own platform. Not to mention the existence of 120/240 fps making it painfully obvious that this is either laziness or an oversight (neither are excusable) for not having included a 60fps option, my S5 had that for gods sake, a phone that launched in April of '14 had this ability. Along with each successor to the Galaxy line, iphones, LG, I cant think of a flagship that can't do it?
Maybe I'm (we're?) in the minority in believing that it's pathetic to have a phone with the capabilities this one does, but lacks a function that very few - if any - new phones also lack that would really make the videos taken on the device a lot better. I'ts getting frustrating that Google, and the Nexus brand, are supposed to be top of the line and cutting edge - for the most part - but have, seemingly on purpose, chosen to exclude some of the key desirable components that customers want. Wireless charging (i know it was left out to make it thinner) but still... and these were two things I really hoped for, I think the 6P was a step in the wrong direction. Huawei really treated me like **** when they sent me the wrong 6P (the bastard model that excluded band 10 for some dumb reason) and refused to allow me to exchange or return it no matter what.
If Huawei makes the 2016 Nexus, I will gladly wash my hands of it, there's no way that company will ever get my business again.
I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
I've pushed modified blob and app source to git @ https://github.com/defcomk/c2Vid as stated I have no camera 2 device so I go by logcats .
Anyway the source is there added some log lines as from the crash I could not see what exactly caused the crash
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I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
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From the leaked Qualcomm camera source code it looks like 60fps comes part of most libs and oems remove them for what reason I dunno but if you can find a device with same sensor and 60fps all that is needed is the registers for timmings and clocks and res entry but the later can be calculated.
There is hope for LG G5/One Plus 3/Mi5
HTC I tried but could only get it to 40fps in camera 1 mode Camera 2 mode the target fps range stuff maxed out at 30 perhaps when ae turned off in full manual it will work .in Camera 1 mode its another mess by htc where they broke qualcom video-hfr parameter in favour of their own video-mode which seems like a copy paste job from htc one m9 half then they broke it.
I patched hal as far as to allow fps range up to 120fps but the code that switches between the different sensor out put res mode was crippled.
I dunno if Camera2 was intended to even support 60p the only method I see is using HighSpeedCapture mode which only recognizes >=120 .
So in the blob pushed to git 1080p is set to max fps of 120 so it shows up in The high-speed mode .
In the root of the repo is text file showing imx377 configs
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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I mean most people complain about slow start times of the camera on tge n6p anyway so I'd hate to see it slowed even further. While Samsung isn't exactly the best developers, they have a massive amount of devs I'm sure. But I still agree. If they can do it, Google and others should be able to also.
Just to clarify, my dislike for Huawei stems far beyond this issue. I will link to the thread (if anyone wants it) where I outline the month-long ordeal where they constantly lied to me about having a tech call me back, refunding my purchase, allowing me to return my 128GB 6P - all because they sent me the A2 style 6P, not the A1 style which everyone else on this continent got, and I purchased 4 other identical 6Ps in that same order, but one was a bastard model that lacked band 10, a band that is necessary for it to work for me on USCC (works on everyone else though) - Google NEVER sold the A2 style, only the A1 (which included band 10) and works perfectly fine. Of the 4 phones purchased, 3 were the A1 style, 1 was the A2 style, and this was never an option when ordered since...there was never more than 1 style that was publically known. They gave me a phone with missing hardware, refused to replace/return/rectify the situation in any form.
Anyway, THATS why I will never do business with them again. Their CS is absolute bull**** and they lie to their customers when they have legitimate issues that THEY caused.
The 60fps issue is on Google, it would be sweet to have, and I can't see any reasonable logic to not including it with the app on the phone? Thats all.
Cleaned up the bickering, let's all play nicely together please.
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defcomg said:
Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google,
as I don't have a camera 2 device to test I'm attaching a test apk below
FPS is set 120fps I wanna see if its working , if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p.
With 120fps 1080p we could set fps range to 60,60 allowing 60p video.
This is a Two part test .
A) if preview running at 120fps
B)if video recording is working
Logcat the test if any error occurs
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
shuckeru said:
i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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does it modify the camera app? no
does it replace the camera app? also, no
does it introduce a new fps mode? yes
did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps? It's more complicated than that, and OP is still working things out.
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I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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-That app was created for another device so the lag is expected and Yes defcomk is creating a software mod and will enable the FPS we deserve. some good progress but nothing solid yet. (patience)
-This won't bork your camera lol
-Regarding L Camera, it was capable but was more of a test being that it got the job done on the Nexus 5 but with lot's of sacrifices and such. hence the reason it was more of a way of just testing camera 2 api. The IMX377 sensor on our phone is more than capable but defcomk is still deep in testing.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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well, it does this for me too which is unfortunate.
I don't really understand what's the problem? Can't someone just make a camera app that records at 120fps and just saves one frame and throws away the other? There you go 60fps.
Or you could edit the video yourself and remove every second frame?