I wonder if anyone here is delved deep enough into the inner workings of the camera system. Would it be possible, for example, to control the exposure settings independently for each lens?
That way, we could do *real* HDR shots that would blow the socks off the iPhone HDR stuff.
Of course, it wouldn't work for anything too close because of the distortion, but anything further away should work great.
Thoughts?
Would be a good idea!
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Agreed, HDR on my phone has been my dream for a while now. I plan on taking some skilled photos in 3d, and this would be awesome
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Speed Shooting
Would It Also Be Possible To Use Both Cameras For Speed Shooting?
Like Where One Would Take The Picture Then The Other Would Take It Again.
That Would Be Awesome.
This should be in q&a.....and I only say that because I opened this thread, not noticing the ?, thinking it was a working modification to the cameras. Might want to pm a mod and have it moved.
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This should be in q&a.....and I only say that because I opened this thread, not noticing the ?, thinking it was a working modification to the cameras. Might want to pm a mod and have it moved.
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I think this is in the correct area. Yes, it is a question. But it is a question geared towards a topic that will in all likelihood take some heavy development.
The ideas for HDR and speed shots (halving the time between pictures) are great and definitely something I would use if/when they can be implemented.
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Would It Also Be Possible To Use Both Cameras For Speed Shooting?
Like Where One Would Take The Picture Then The Other Would Take It Again.
That Would Be Awesome.
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If your memory card could handle it I'm sure it's possible. You would probably need access to the kernel source to do much of anything with it though.
Imagine a camera app where each core gets a camera hdw to read and process.
Imagine a camera app where we know what each core is doing !
@ OP - wrong section. You developed?
@ Spartan15A - check the market "fast burst camera", is frakking awesome...
BANG! from my shooter...
The Android Camera API only allows you to specify one Camera at a time so you'll need to overcome that obstacle first. Mostly you are limited to what the Android Camera API makes available to you. In some cases you can include additional non-standard properties that the vendor's implementation checks for. Another possibility is that HTC will release a library to make more of the Camera features available.
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The Android Camera API only allows you to specify one Camera at a time so you'll need to overcome that obstacle first. Mostly you are limited to what the Android Camera API makes available to you. In some cases you can include additional non-standard properties that the vendor's implementation checks for. Another possibility is that HTC will release a library to make more of the Camera features available.
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I wonder if the cameras are even accessible independently at all, or if it just defaults to one of the two.
Have you guys seen the Sony Panorama camera app? Is that using both cameras?
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Have you guys seen the Sony Panorama camera app? Is that using both cameras?
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Cool app - but I don't think it uses the second camera.
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I wonder if the cameras are even accessible independently at all, or if it just defaults to one of the two.
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http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/Camera.html#open(int)
Try that method out and see.
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I think this is in the correct area. Yes, it is a question.
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Why is this so hard for people to understand. You yourself just said its a question...so therefore it should be in q&a. Development is for developing...Not Asking Questions. To the op, nice idea.
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I wish when in 2D mode the camera towards the middle was used. I always have a finger over the outside camera.
But yeah, HTC could really let us do some cool stuff with both cameras in 2D mode.
Moved to proper forum.
Not sure why this was moved, as it is clearly a development question (is it possible to access the hardware cameras independently - and if so, how?) but whatever...
Here's another application that we could use the two cameras for:
http://gizmodo.com/5822623/two-lenses-will-fix-compact-cameras-depth-of-field-proposes-samsung
Would probably need to go through the actual patent doc to figure out exactly what the method is...
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Does anyone know the exact model number of the camera sensor on our phones?
I have heard that it is built by OmniVision but I'm not sure about this.
I was trying to do some research to see if 1080p video recording would be possible.
http://www.ovt.com/applications/application.php?id=3
Looking through the list, it looks like every 5MP sensor is capable of 1080p @30 fps. We know our CPUs can handle 1080p because the sensation can manage it just fine with the same CPU. Anyone have any information?
I said it before...but why would htc NOT include 1080p? Its a selling point...they did it for a reason probaly.
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I said it before...but why would htc NOT include 1080p? Its a selling point...they did it for a reason probaly.
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Yeah, we wouldn't know. But if the sensor is an OmniVision, we know it must support 1080p because every 5MP sensor made by OmniVision does. We also know our CPUs can handle 1080p. HTC must have removed 1080p support for some other reason.
s5k6aafx Samsung sensor
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s5k6aafx Samsung sensor
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Where did you find that information?
That is a 1.3 MP sensor, if anything it could be the front facing camera sensor. Samsung says it can do [email protected] 24 fps, not that we would use it for that.
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I said it before...but why would htc NOT include 1080p? Its a selling point...they did it for a reason probaly.
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and you can keep saying it all you want but its 99.9999% fact that the phone can do it and the software is the only thing holding it back right now.
it is VERY likely that they didn't include it b/c of bugs, just like they removed the transparant rosie, and panaramic pictures that were shown at its unvailing.
likely we see all of these things in future OTA's...
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and you can keep saying it all you want but its 99.9999% fact that the phone can do it and the software is the only thing holding it back right now.
it is VERY likely that they didn't include it b/c of bugs, just like they removed the transparant rosie, and panaramic pictures that were shown at its unvailing.
likely we see all of these things in future OTA's...
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True, they did do that with 720p video recording on the dInc. I think the secondary problem is the logistics involved in moving that many pixels...reliable storage speed. I think the primary problem is likely feeding the sensor a reliable amount of light to keep the frame rate from getting more embarrassing than the 720p already is....sadly
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poweroutlet said:
Does anyone know the exact model number of the camera sensor on our phones?
I have heard that it is built by OmniVision but I'm not sure about this.
I was trying to do some research to see if 1080p video recording would be possible.
http://www.ovt.com/applications/application.php?id=3
Looking through the list, it looks like every 5MP sensor is capable of 1080p @30 fps. We know our CPUs can handle 1080p because the sensation can manage it just fine with the same CPU. Anyone have any information?
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A 5MP is more than twice the pixels needed for 1080p which is just a hair over 2MP. That also means that we are more than capable of capturing 1080p in 3D as well...in fact, why the hell couldn't we capture 5mp 3D stills?
I think 5mp 3D stills is a much easier thing to accomplish. I mean, sure, we probably can get it to capture 1080p video, but, frame rate would probably totally blow.
...now that I'm thinking about it, we don't get full 720p 3D, we get what is called 720p SBS-half, meaning that we lose half of our resolution to do 3D even though the sensors are totally capable of doing SBS-full...that seems like another doable hack.
...what if one camera was serviced exclusively by one core and the file reassembled afterwards? That would make 720p SBS-full logistically easier, but then we run into the reliable write-speed problem again...
You can all ac like smartasses(no offensse) but if i would be htc and i knew the optimus3d rocks, i definatly would made 5mp 3d photos possible. Unless the hardware posed problems.
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You can all ac like smartasses(no offensse) but if i would be htc and i knew the optimus3d rocks, i definatly would made 5mp 3d photos possible. Unless the hardware posed problems.
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dunno how you get us being smartasses? just informing you the truth and facts of the matter.
one would of thought HTC would of included panaramic photos too but they had bugs in it so they took it out at last min and plan to add it back in future OTA. same should be for the 1080p.
its not a hardware limitation.
Or they are "unfixable bugs". You guys have some awesome devs here but no, 5mp 3d photos are in my mind impossible. A company that also makes nice hardware surely do not have bad software writers. Okay not the best, but good enough to probaly see its not possible. Also the o3d cant make 5mp 3d photos...i think that says enough.
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Or they are "unfixable bugs". You guys have some awesome devs here but no, 5mp 3d photos are in my mind impossible. A company that also makes nice hardware surely do not have bad software writers. Okay not the best, but good enough to probaly see its not possible. Also the o3d cant make 5mp 3d photos...i think that says enough.
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im talkin bout 1080p recording more than anything else here as thats something that the hardware supports without a doubt.
just b/c they pull a feature at launch doesn't mean they have bad developers which is what you are inferring by saying if they pulled it then its unfixable b/c they "surely do not have bad software writers."
Go back read up some on other HTC phones and other makers for the matter b/c this happens all the time. company tries to push the max of the phone up till launch and then if can't iron out stuff 100% they pull it to implement it later in an OTA once fixed up.
This is what will be done with the panaramic camera shooting mode which was in the 3d at the launch at ctia and i was told it wa pulled b/c of bugs and would be released later in OTA. this feature is not hampered by hardware by anymeans nor is 1080p recording. Another example is the FPS limit on the Evo4G at launch. wasn't hardware limit there, and then bam an OTA unlocked it.
so point is just b/c feature is pulled or not included at launch doesnt mean it isn't going to be included. if hardware supports it, then it will happen. end of story.
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im talkin bout 1080p recording more than anything else here as thats something that the hardware supports without a doubt.
just b/c they pull a feature at launch doesn't mean they have bad developers which is what you are inferring by saying if they pulled it then its unfixable b/c they "surely do not have bad software writers."
Go back read up some on other HTC phones and other makers for the matter b/c this happens all the time. company tries to push the max of the phone up till launch and then if can't iron out stuff 100% they pull it to implement it later in an OTA once fixed up.
This is what will be done with the panaramic camera shooting mode which was in the 3d at the launch at ctia and i was told it wa pulled b/c of bugs and would be released later in OTA. this feature is not hampered by hardware by anymeans nor is 1080p recording. Another example is the FPS limit on the Evo4G at launch. wasn't hardware limit there, and then bam an OTA unlocked it.
so point is just b/c feature is pulled or not included at launch doesnt mean it isn't going to be included. if hardware supports it, then it will happen. end of story.
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I can believe in 1080p 2d since the o3d also has it...but no to higher res pictures in 3d (larger then 3.15mp)
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I can believe in 1080p 2d since the o3d also has it...but no to higher res pictures in 3d (larger then 3.15mp)
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yeah the 1080p 3d and such i dunno about b/c that was never even hinted at during the ctia event. the other stuff they pulled last minute was least there at one point and just didnt have time to polish it up.
Working on a backdoor for this problem now.
I found the settings for the camera in the /system/etc/media_profiles.xml file. The file seems to include settings for all the different resolutions and quality/send settings within the camera app. The first changes I made caused the app to fail to launch. I discovered that a reboot of the phone is not necessary between changes of the .xml file. Simply closing the camera app and re-opening it does the job. I restored my backup and the camera came up fine. Thanks to Root Explorer for auto-backing up any edited files.
I edited the VideoEncoderCap name=”m4v” code from 720p to 1080p resolutions, but in testing the resolutions remained at 720p. It would seem the app is an HTC app and that the settings might be found directly in there.
I'll update if I find more.
we all know 1080p was in the evo 3d probably sometime during when htc was testing it..htc probably didnt think it was working as well as they wanted to they de activated it just like they deactivated panorama and hdr but since it was there at one point in the rom then it can be activated back [htc never removes things completely just simply deactivates it] we just need to find where to activate it.
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dunno how you get us being smartasses? just informing you the truth and facts of the matter.
one would of thought HTC would of included panaramic photos too but they had bugs in it so they took it out at last min and plan to add it back in future OTA. same should be for the 1080p.
its not a hardware limitation.
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Because you didn't just agree with him and close the thread.
Some of you may know about the Pro HDR app that takes high and low exposure shots and combines them together to produce really high quality pics.
Well the app doesn't work on the EVO3D and I contacted the company that makes the app. They reported that HTC has not correctly implemented the android camera API on the evo3d which is why the app doesn't work properly on this phone. Instead of taking one high and one low exposure picture, it just takes two pictures with the same exposure level. They also said this is surprising because HTC has the correct implementation on the EVO.
So my question is for all the gurus out there. Is there anyway to fix this or will a solution have to come from HTC?
Anyone?
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Some of you may know about the Pro HDR app that takes high and low exposure shots and combines them together to produce really high quality pics.
Well the app doesn't work on the EVO3D and I contacted the company that makes the app. They reported that HTC has not correctly implemented the android camera API on the evo3d which is why the app doesn't work properly on this phone. Instead of taking one high and one low exposure picture, it just takes two pictures with the same exposure level. They also said this is surprising because HTC has the correct implementation on the EVO.
So my question is for all the gurus out there. Is there anyway to fix this or will a solution have to come from HTC?
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Anyone?
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Yes, I'm sure there is a way to fix this. Is the way to fix this simple or easy? Hard to stay. Somebody would have to do the initial research by reversing HTC's closed source camera app and find out if its as simple as flipping a boolean value or if the code has to be completely reworked.
I would think the developer of your desired application would be the most familar with this type of camera API code and would be the best to ask regarding how much effort is required for them to integrate support.
This device supports 3D. Sure this may seem like a great feature/advantage. The downside to the HTC EVO 3D support is: essentially a bunch of closed source, proprietary HTC code. The code is not part of Android nor is the code released anywhere. The fact that all this code is kept private makes it much more difficult for developers to work with.
The impact this 3D code has ranges from difficulties for AOSP based ROMs such as CM to support the device to third party app developers, such as your camera app developer. Unfortunately, the impact is broader than I would have initially guessed, but as seeing this device has been out since June (CDMA Sprint version) and being November now, many developers are still struggling with 3D support. Quite unfortunate.
Hope that helps!
I had success with "HDR Camera" if you're looking for something to work. I know Pro HDR has more features, but you can give the one I suggested a shot.
nope, the exposure setting just doesn't work properly on the evo3D. just try it in the default camera app. If you change the exposure, it just brightens the image instead of actually changing the exposure
Is there a way to get the HTC One S camera app onto the HTC Amaze? I'm mainly looking for the burst shot and video still shot functionality. Has this been included in any Amaze roms or is it possible just to install the app itself?
I haven't see it around; so, I'd guess it's not available yet. For the burst shot though, you can just download an app in play store called "Fast Burst Camera".
It's not really possible due to the factor that the one s camera apparently depends on a new image chip for it's quality and all round framework of the camera app, a chip our device doesn't have.
Dark Nightmare said:
It's not really possible due to the factor that the one s camera apparently depends on a new image chip for it's quality and all round framework of the camera app, a chip our device doesn't have.
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Darn. Is it possible for our camera to take photos while recording with another app?
I have no clue, I would love to find that out as well, since it's something I'd like to have.
http://www.camerafv5.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
These two apps are amazing if you want more control of your camera.
I have been a pro photographer for years and shoot with a pro quality Canon DSLR.
Lately I have almost never felt like dragging that camera around with me, but like most people these days I ALWAYS have my phone with me.
I used to carry a tiny point and shoot Canon with me along with my phone but that's a PITA also. None of my previous phones really thrilled me with their camera performance (including the two Rezounds I still have) but the camera in my N2 has been giving me super results with these two apps.
CameraZoom FX is a little easier to use as it doesn't have a bar of controls across the bottom of the screen that you need to keep your fingers away from. FV-5 does have more features however (the controls are basically a clone of a DSLR) and it has one feature that no other camera app has. It has the ability to save as a png which is a RAW file with no jpeg compression.
PNGs take longer to save/view and are bigger files but give a higher quality image than a compressed jpeg.
CameraZoom has a feature that I use occasionally that will take a picture with a voice command. Set it on that and then say smile and a few seconds later it shoots the image. Here is a pic I took with CameraZoom inside using available light. I printed an 8"x10" print from this and nobody can believe it came from a phone.
http://s361.beta.photobucket.com/user/jmorton10_photo/media/Camera-ZOOM_zpsbafd9ff2.jpg.html
I did a bunch more testing this morning after another poster said that the anti-shake feature drastically reduced image quality.
I never used that feature, I learned years ago to hold a camera dead still myself but I was curious about that claim.
Turns out, the poster was exactly right. The images I took using as basically suck.
They are MUCH grainier than the exact same shot without that feature turned on.
I believe voice commands are available with s-voice and the stock camera.
billku said:
I believe voice commands are available with s-voice and the stock camera.
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I didn't realize that, I stumbled across the feature in CameraZoom while looking for something else.
There are so many cool options in these two apps that some are bound to duplicate the stock app features, but these two apps make all these options MUCH easier to get to and to use.
EDIT: I just looked through the options/settings in the stock TW camera app and didn't see any option for voice activation.
It may still be there and I overlooked it, but this just reinforces what I knew all along, all the options in these other apps are easily available with one fast click. You don't have to dig through menus of stuff trying to find or enable/disable a feature.
jmorton10 said:
http://www.camerafv5.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
These two apps are amazing if you want more control of your camera.
I have been a pro photographer for years and shoot with a pro quality Canon DSLR.
Lately I have almost never felt like dragging that camera around with me, but like most people these days I ALWAYS have my phone with me.
I used to carry a tiny point and shoot Canon with me along with my phone but that's a PITA also. None of my previous phones really thrilled me with their camera performance (including the two Rezounds I still have) but the camera in my N2 has been giving me super results with these two apps.
CameraZoom FX is a little easier to use as it doesn't have a bar of controls across the bottom of the screen that you need to keep your fingers away from. FV-5 does have more features however (the controls are basically a clone of a DSLR) and it has one feature that no other camera app has. It has the ability to save as a png which is a RAW file with no jpeg compression.
PNGs take longer to save/view and are bigger files but give a higher quality image than a compressed jpeg.
CameraZoom has a feature that I use occasionally that will take a picture with a voice command. Set it on that and then say smile and a few seconds later it shoots the image. Here is a pic I took with CameraZoom inside using available light. I printed an 8"x10" print from this and nobody can believe it came from a phone.
http://s361.beta.photobucket.com/user/jmorton10_photo/media/Camera-ZOOM_zpsbafd9ff2.jpg.html
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I use Camera FV-5 over the stock camera just because of the quality of pics it takes.
I too find the N2 camera to be quite good and I just purchased FV5 to see how far I can take it. I haven't spent very much time with it yet however.
One thing I love about my DSLR is that I can set separate buttons for focus and exposure. Any way to do that with FV5?
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I use Camera FV-5 over the stock camera just because of the quality of pics it takes.
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I agree 100%.
I'm not saying you can't take a good pic with the stock camera app, but it's much easier and a lot more fun using an app like FV-5.
It definitely beats the stock app quality wise if you save as a png file which is not even an option with the stock camera (I'm not sure why not)
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I too find the N2 camera to be quite good and I just purchased FV5 to see how far I can take it. I haven't spent very much time with it yet however.
One thing I love about my DSLR is that I can set separate buttons for focus and exposure. Any way to do that with FV5?
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Not exactly how you're saying, but you can lock both the AF and the exposure so you can recompose and keep the exposure or AF point.
If you read through all the options/help docs etc on the site I posted it will explain all the options pretty well actually.
http://www.camerafv5.com/tutorials/camera_manual.php
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...zdGFydmluZ21pbmQuYW5kcm9pZC5zaG90Y29udHJvbCJd
This is another good app.
The preview screen is smaller, but it gives you access to all the settings from one screen.
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Not exactly how you're saying, but you can lock both the AF and the exposure so you can recompose and keep the exposure or AF point.
If you read through all the options/help docs etc on the site I posted it will explain all the options pretty well actually.
http://www.camerafv5.com/tutorials/camera_manual.php
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Exposure lock, that's it. I was having a brain fart. Thanks for the link!
WOW, talk about good service. I was using the shot control app I posted and realized the ISO setting did not work.
I sent the developer an email about it and 20 minutes later I got this response:
On Jan 9, 2013 3:46 PM, "Peter Daly" <[email protected]> wrote:
Samsung has chosen to not make ISO visible for third party developers on your device, so I must guess at how it is controlled, and hard code that method that works on your device.* You are the first to contact me about the Verizon variation of the Note 2.
Please install the attached version, and let me know if it seems that ISO is working correctly.* Based on what I know of the other versions of that device, I give this a 75% chance of working.
Thank you for any help, and thank you for contacting me.
Pete
Attached was a new version of the app and it works perfectly.
That's great. At your recommendation i purchased FV5 and i'm very impressed so far.
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That's great. At your recommendation i purchased FV5 and i'm very impressed so far.
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Yea me too.
FV-5 is my favorite, I find it's the closest thing to DSLR controls.
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WOW, talk about good service. I was using the shot control app I posted and realized the ISO setting did not work.
I sent the developer an email about it and 20 minutes later I got this response:
On Jan 9, 2013 3:46 PM, "Peter Daly" <[email protected]> wrote:
Samsung has chosen to not make ISO visible for third party developers on your device, so I must guess at how it is controlled, and hard code that method that works on your device.* You are the first to contact me about the Verizon variation of the Note 2.
Please install the attached version, and let me know if it seems that ISO is working correctly.* Based on what I know of the other versions of that device, I give this a 75% chance of working.
Thank you for any help, and thank you for contacting me.
Pete
Attached was a new version of the app and it works perfectly.
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Wait so let me get this straight...
ONLY the Verizon Galaxy Note 2 has something special about making it harder for the app to access the ISO settings? Did I read that right?
The camera's manual mode is darn good. After som shooting, I can see that. It's especially good for stills.
BUT that auto mode is average to not good. I hear some chatter that this camera is for content creators --- those who don't want just auto mode.
I guess the question is --- why can't we have it both ways? What am I missing? Why can't auto jpegs be processed well (pixel-like, for those want it), along with a great manual features? My ILC can do both --- and it's only got one sensor. So, what gives here? I'm just not sure why we need to compromise.
Put simply, there are some situations where I want to shoot manual and some that I just want to shoot in P&S mode.
The best picture isn't always technically the best one, but rather what can be caught in focus in the frame. Seems reasonable to me.
You can use Google Camera for HDR+ Auto Mode. It also generate Raw files for post-processing if jpeg is not good enough.
Link for you: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
For example: photo with more colors is hdr+ auto mode. Other is raw with snapseed.
Which port do you recommend??? Thanks much.
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The camera's manual mode is darn good. After som shooting, I can see that. It's especially good for stills.
BUT that auto mode is average to not good. I hear some chatter that this camera is for content creators --- those who don't want just auto mode.
I guess the question is --- why can't we have it both ways? What am I missing? Why can't auto jpegs be processed well (pixel-like, for those want it), along with a great manual features? My ILC can do both --- and it's only got one sensor. So, what gives here? I'm just not sure why we need to compromise.
Put simply, there are some situations where I want to shoot manual and some that I just want to shoot in P&S mode.
The best picture isn't always technically the best one, but rather what can be caught in focus in the frame. Seems reasonable to me.
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Your ILC is a dedicated camera. Everything in it is designed for one job and one job only, to produce the best image possible with the processing chips and jpg engines all dedicated to this end. That's all it does, that whole box. A cellphone is a jack of all trades and there's a saying about jack of all trades, master of none. At no point would I ever put a current cellphone up against a current dedicated camera for imaging. The camera will win every time. Cellphones have encouraged an attitude of good enough when in reality, we know it isn't. To be certain, cellphones these days do a lot better than the first DSLRs and definitely better than my first digital camera.
Problem is that a cellphone is literally everything crammed into one tiny space. Music player, computer, internet modem, phone, television screen, video camera, and camera.... er, make that cameras. All of that screaming for limited space and resources, battery and processors. A dedicated camera is one sensor and it is usually much larger than any cellphone camera sensor. That one sensor usually has room to breath, literally, to help keep it from overheating and not stress the hardware. Cellphones don't get that luxury. A dedicated camera has dedicated AF systems, often times an entirely dedicated set of sensors just for that. Metering is also an entirely separate area of development and testing.
So while we have been lulled into thinking cellphones are great cameras, in reality, they aren't. There's still a lot of times that it is best to have a dedicated camera.
Right, agreed, but it seems to often come down to a software issue in the cameras. Have full manual controls for manual purposes and have good auto processing. Or, am I still missing the point? I could be very wrong here.
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Right, agreed, but it seems to often come down to a software issue in the cameras. Have full manual controls for manual purposes and have good auto processing. Or, am I still missing the point? I could be very wrong here.
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Again, software will be the same problem. For a dedicated camera company, you have an entire company coming up with the engines and algo's going into the camera. Versus a cellphone company having to split their development between a lot of teams but they're going to be pretty small and at best, just able to tweak previous versions of software for their small corner of the device. The company I work for does software for a lot of various things a pharmacy might want to do. We have around 4 devs per team to pull off all the things in a pharmacy. Whereas there are some companies out there that do just one of the things we do and dedicate a much larger team to it. (Up to 100 people working on one piece of software vs our overall team of maybe 10.) That's the difference between a cellphone and a dedicated camera.
coldbeverage said:
Which port do you recommend??? Thanks much.
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Latest stable port in my link. You have to test some settings to get the best result. Also I hear that Oreo version has improved camera.
starrynighthn said:
Latest stable port in my link. You have to test some settings to get the best result. Also I hear that Oreo version has improved camera.
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Thanks. A couple of them work. Any advice on settings? I found some, but curious if you got something better.
CHH2 said:
Again, software will be the same problem. For a dedicated camera company, you have an entire company coming up with the engines and algo's going into the camera. Versus a cellphone company having to split their development between a lot of teams but they're going to be pretty small and at best, just able to tweak previous versions of software for their small corner of the device. The company I work for does software for a lot of various things a pharmacy might want to do. We have around 4 devs per team to pull off all the things in a pharmacy. Whereas there are some companies out there that do just one of the things we do and dedicate a much larger team to it. (Up to 100 people working on one piece of software vs our overall team of maybe 10.) That's the difference between a cellphone and a dedicated camera.
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I'm actually curious if there's any way to adjust LG's Auto settings. I think from what I've heard, the most common issues are that the photos come out over-exposed and over-processed and smoothed out. Is there any way to go into the LG's software and tone down the exposure brightness and smoothing a bit? I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it but I wonder if there is some sort of setting values we can change so that way everything else remains the same.