headphone socket doesn't activate with speakers - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

thanks for reading this. I searched but couldn't find anything strongly pertinent.
If listen to media, perhaps a podcast (podcast addict) or music (poweramp), then it comes out of the speaker until I plug in a headset (my old Samsung headphones work OK), and sound switches over. The headset plug has the usual tip + 3 rings.
If I plug in some external speakers, the sound doesn't cut over to the speakers on the headphone socket, so audio continues on the speaker. The speaker plug has tip + 2 rings.
My guess is that the Xperia detects the speakers from a change in impedance, rather than a switch? Or could it be the speakers's connector isn't sensed because it's only a stereo jack not stereo + mic jack?
I can't find any manual override settings in any control panel.
thanks for any ideas.
Paul

Continuing to think about this, I considered there might be an app which allows manually switching between speaker and headphone.
A bit of research and I found SoundAbout, which is far more powerful than I need as it allows you to override audio routing to any output such as bluetooth, hdmi, headphones, dock etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.woodslink.android.wiredheadphoneroutingfix
What I specifically like about this is it gives you a simple widget to toggle speaker and headset.
Of course, I'd rather the built-in switching worked, so I am still open to ideas, thanks.

Well I use some normal headphones which are standard mini jack with 2 rings and it transfers fine so I don't think it has to do with the need for 3 rings. What are the speakers out of interest?
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I've had the same problem but it's not related to what I plug in, it's just random. Sometime's it's my headphones that came with the Z Ultra and sometimes it's a Monster 1/8 inch cable for plugging into my car's stereo. I think others have posted the same issue with it not detecting something plugged in. Luckily it's pretty rare for me, every month maybe.

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Help: using an 2.5mm/3.5mm Headphone Adaptor

Hi,
I have a Logitech Precision PC Gaming Headset http://www.computingondemand.com/reviews/audio-Logitech-PrecisionGamingPCHeadset/page1.shtml and it works great.
So would need an adapter like this to connect it to the Blue Angel -
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT16
Am I correct that BOTH the speaker ***and the microphone*** are then rerouted to the headset, or does it only reroute the speaker?
Thanks People
I have the same setup. Both connections on the adapter are for headsets only
1 for headset
1 for stereo headset
I contacted them about this and they noted that there may be a need for this type of setup, but had no immediate intentions of changing the config.
Raptor
I have a Logitech Precision PC Gaming Headset http://www.computingondemand.com/reviews/audio-Logitech-PrecisionGamingPCHeadset/page1.shtml and it works great.
So would need an adapter like this to connect it to the Blue Angel -
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT16
Am I correct that BOTH the speaker ***and the microphone*** are then rerouted to the headset, or does it only reroute the speaker?
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Well..., I think I have to disagree with Raptor :shock:... I have both the PPCPADPT16 and the PPCPADPT15. The 2.5 side on the 16 does indeed enable the mic on a standard 2.5mm head set and the 3.5 mm side provides stereo sound, but no mic.
I use mine as part of a car kit for my xda IIs. I use the 3.5mm side to plug in a cassette adaptor and feed stereo MP3 sound and the phone through the car speakers. I plug in a regular 2.5mm hands free kit into the 2.5mm side of the adaptor and use that as the mic attached to the door pillar Works pretty well for all up cost of about $45
The 15 works by feeding the stereo sound into the car stereo via the cassette adaptor, while keeping the internal speaker of the XDA IIs enabled. In this way you can play the sound through the car stereo (or any stereo headset) while still being able to answer a call via the xda's mic and listen to the caller over the stereo speakers...
Hope that helps
Regards
Chris
Ah...now after rereading the posts, I think I now understand what you were looking for
You need an adaptor that provides stereo sound and a mic in a single 2.5mm or 3.5mm connector....correct..? In which case neither of these do it in a single connector..
Sorry, misunderstood on the first pass :roll
Regards
Chris
cbrow51
indeed stereo sound and a mic ,
thanks for the confirmation!
/moo
cbrow51 said:
I have a Logitech Precision PC Gaming Headset http://www.computingondemand.com/reviews/audio-Logitech-PrecisionGamingPCHeadset/page1.shtml and it works great.
So would need an adapter like this to connect it to the Blue Angel -
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT16
Am I correct that BOTH the speaker ***and the microphone*** are then rerouted to the headset, or does it only reroute the speaker?
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Well..., I think I have to disagree with Raptor :shock:... I have both the PPCPADPT16 and the PPCPADPT15. The 2.5 side on the 16 does indeed enable the mic on a standard 2.5mm head set and the 3.5 mm side provides stereo sound, but no mic.
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I use mine as part of a car kit for my xda IIs. I use the 3.5mm side to plug in a cassette adaptor and feed stereo MP3 sound and the phone through the car speakers. I plug in a regular 2.5mm hands free kit into the 2.5mm side of the adaptor and use that as the mic attached to the door pillar Works pretty well for all up cost of about $45
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Chris,
Does your 2.5mm hands free kit comes with its own speaker, too? When you plug the 2.5mm hands free kit into the 2.5mm side to use the mic, does the sound comes out of the 2.5mm hands free kit's speaker also? Or the 2.5mm side only connects the mic and no sound is routed through it?
If no sound is routed through the 2.5mm side then it sounds like the PPCPADPT16 is designed for one to use his own speaker (cassette adapter to car's speakers, etc...) and his own mic (hands free kit,etc... but then one wastes the hands free kit's speaker). Does any body know if there is a mic-only device that can plugs into the 2.5mm side? I couldn't find any, a device that has a mic always come with an earphone. arghh!!!
If there is sound routed through the 2.5mm side, then whenever one receives a call, sound will come from all over the place, louder sound from the car's speakers competing with the weaker sound from the hands free kit's speaker... It sounds distracting!!
I have a feeling the designer meant to add a mic to this adapter so that the 3.5mm side and the 2.5mm side can be used independently. The 3.5mm side for those who wants to use the car's speakers and the adapter's mic... The 2.5mm side for one who wants to use a hands free kit...
The 15 works by feeding the stereo sound into the car stereo via the cassette adaptor, while keeping the internal speaker of the XDA IIs enabled. In this way you can play the sound through the car stereo (or any stereo headset) while still being able to answer a call via the xda's mic and listen to the caller over the stereo speakers...
Hope that helps
Regards
Chris
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PPC Adaptors and hands Free Kit
Hi Sumtingwong
The hands free "kit" I put together is actually an assembly of individual components I selected, rather than an actual kit.
I use a standard non powered, vent mount holder for the xda 2s and power the device via a standard car charger. The holder does not have any kind of speaker built in. I am currently using the PPCtechs "16" adaptor, with the 3.5mm side plugged into a cassette sound feeder (have also used it with an FM sound feeder as well) and the 2.5 mm side plugged into a standard 2.5mm mono hands free speaker/mic combo. I have the mic part of this attached to the drivers side door pillar. Then, I have MS Voice Command installed on the xda, with the "record" button on the xda mapped to the Voice Command software
So the way it works is as follows.
1. Get into car and place xda in vent mount holder. Attach car charger and PPCTech # 16 adaptor to xda.
2. Turn car radio / stereo on and insert casette sound feeder adaptor (you can use a FM Sound Feeder here instead and tune to the appropriate FM station)
3. Hit the xda "record" button and at the Voice Command prompt say "Play Don Henley" (It's the only CD I have on my SD card right now.. ) The music starts!
4. Then I decide I want to call someone, so, while the music is still playing, I hit the record button again and on the Voice Command prompt say "call Veronica at home". The music stops and the phone dials the number from the contact list.
5. The phone rings and I get her voice mail (she's never at home ) So I hang up and restart the music.
6. Then a call comes in, which interupts the music with the ring tone through the car speakers. I can see who is calling via the xda screen and hit the "call answer" button on the xda to answer the call. My car has volume up and down on the steering wheel, so that its pretty convienent to adjust the volume from there.
7. When the call is done, I hit the "call end" button on the xda and the music starts back up automatically.
It works pretty well. A couple of other things to address your questions.
a. I don't have a speaker built into the xda holder, so sound coming out there is not an issue for me.
b. The 2.5mm headset side does still have the speaker attached, but sound is not a problem as its so low.
c. I too have not found a (cheap) 2.5mm "mic only". I asked the PPC Tech folks if they had or could recommend one. They did not, but their solution was simple and inexpensive...."we find just cutting of the headphone part off the handsfree works well"!!
The other thing I use and love is PocketMax "PhoneAlarm" (www.pocketmax.net) As well as some great alarm functions, this app supports various profiles that control, amongst other things, the input and output sound on the PPC mic and speaker. So I set up the "car" profile with a mic sensitivity and audio output that matches the car stereo best. That way there are no big volume changes when switching from say the car radio to the MP3 music on the XDA (BTW, you can also listen to internet radion on the XDA this way too!)
Well there you go, hope that answers your questions. If not, let me know.
Regards
Chris
@ chris
how do you get internet radio ??? my car doesnt have wifi in it
Hi Zohaer
Via the GPRS connection. Try out this link in Windows media player..web favorites..
http://windowsmedia.com/redir/pocketpc.asp
Its for classicfm.
Regards
Chris
perfect explanation
perfect explanation pretty much covers what i want to do break out the sound from my mda III.
I would like to go one stage further and use a pc stereo headset with my mda III but i think that would require a mono 3.5 socket as well as the stereo head phone socket.
looks like the devices discussed so far are working as a pass through to a 2.5 headset and a stereo 3.5 socket for what ever ...
I've not been on this board long but this looks an ideal thread for a sticky any moderator think its worth while
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j
Black Night wrote
I would like to go one stage further and use a pc stereo headset with my mda III but i think that would require a mono 3.5 socket as well as the stereo head phone socket.
looks like the devices discussed so far are working as a pass through to a 2.5 headset and a stereo 3.5 socket for what ever ...
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Hi Black Night
The 3.5mm socket on the # 16 is for stereo headphones (no mic), while the 2.5 socket is for regular hands free kit with mono head phone plus mic. I agree with post above that a useful addition to the connector range would be a 3.5mm that was stereo and also included the mic. This would allow the use of the gaming headset mentioned above.
For now though you could use the # 15 adaptor. This is a 3.5mm stereo socket that accepts a 3.5mm stereo headset AND also keeps the mic on the device active. With this you can get stereo sound and still communicate wth the xda via its built in mic while the headphones are plugged in.
Regards
Chris
Re: PPC Adaptors and hands Free Kit
cbrow51 said:
Hi Sumtingwong
The hands free "kit" I put together is actually an assembly of individual components I selected, rather than an actual kit.
I use a standard non powered, vent mount holder for the xda 2s and power the device via a standard car charger. The holder does not have any kind of speaker built in. I am currently using the PPCtechs "16" adaptor, with the 3.5mm side plugged into a cassette sound feeder (have also used it with an FM sound feeder as well) and the 2.5 mm side plugged into a standard 2.5mm mono hands free speaker/mic combo. I have the mic part of this attached to the drivers side door pillar. Then, I have MS Voice Command installed on the xda, with the "record" button on the xda mapped to the Voice Command software
So the way it works is as follows.
1. Get into car and place xda in vent mount holder. Attach car charger and PPCTech # 16 adaptor to xda.
2. Turn car radio / stereo on and insert casette sound feeder adaptor (you can use a FM Sound Feeder here instead and tune to the appropriate FM station)
3. Hit the xda "record" button and at the Voice Command prompt say "Play Don Henley" (It's the only CD I have on my SD card right now.. ) The music starts!
4. Then I decide I want to call someone, so, while the music is still playing, I hit the record button again and on the Voice Command prompt say "call Veronica at home". The music stops and the phone dials the number from the contact list.
5. The phone rings and I get her voice mail (she's never at home ) So I hang up and restart the music.
6. Then a call comes in, which interupts the music with the ring tone through the car speakers. I can see who is calling via the xda screen and hit the "call answer" button on the xda to answer the call. My car has volume up and down on the steering wheel, so that its pretty convienent to adjust the volume from there.
7. When the call is done, I hit the "call end" button on the xda and the music starts back up automatically.
It works pretty well. A couple of other things to address your questions.
a. I don't have a speaker built into the xda holder, so sound coming out there is not an issue for me.
b. The 2.5mm headset side does still have the speaker attached, but sound is not a problem as its so low.
c. I too have not found a (cheap) 2.5mm "mic only". I asked the PPC Tech folks if they had or could recommend one. They did not, but their solution was simple and inexpensive...."we find just cutting of the headphone part off the handsfree works well"!!
The other thing I use and love is PocketMax "PhoneAlarm" (www.pocketmax.net) As well as some great alarm functions, this app supports various profiles that control, amongst other things, the input and output sound on the PPC mic and speaker. So I set up the "car" profile with a mic sensitivity and audio output that matches the car stereo best. That way there are no big volume changes when switching from say the car radio to the MP3 music on the XDA (BTW, you can also listen to internet radion on the XDA this way too!)
Well there you go, hope that answers your questions. If not, let me know.
Regards
Chris
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Thanks for the reply Chris. It's interesting to be able to "look" inside your car and "see" your typical day

Headphone with built in mic nightmare!

Hi guys,
I recently lost my Shure SE420's and have upgraded to a set of Ultimate Ears Triple Fi 10 Vi IEM's. I bought the 'Vi' version as it has a built in mic for handsfree and a button to answer/hang up. The box said for iphone and blackberry compatible but I assumed the x10 would have no worries as its the same 3.5mm jack.
Turns out I cannot use them as the button appears to be inverted for the x10 / Android, ie its permanently in 'hang up' position. Tring to make a call immedialty displays 'call ended', but if I hold the button down it allows me to call out and releasing it hangs up.
Listening to music is terrible, it sounds robotic and keeps chopping the sound, but when the button is pressed it works fine.
Tested the headphones on my old HTC Touch HD (wm6.5) and a friends iphone and they work perfectly so appears to be an android / x10 issue. The only work around to listen to music is using a 3.5mm extender which doesnt use the mic (one less connection on the jack)
Is there something ive missed in the settings or does anyone know a workaround? Its driving me nuts!
Thanks
its because the wires dont go to the same conections in the x10 compared to the iphone, if you know what i mean. there is no setting because they are hard wired. if you are good with that sort of thing you could make an adapter, afaik that would work but its a lot of hassle.
Does anybody have a headphone with build in mic that actually works on the X10?
yea my stock sony headset that came with the x10 have built in mic and they work fine....
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Really? What model headphones are those? The ones I got with my X10 came with an extension remote/microphone that you can use with any headphones, but the extension makes the cables too long so I'm looking for heaphones with the microphone build in.
I tested my Ultimate Ears Triple Fi 10 Vi on an EVO before I bought mine and they worked great. They also worked until around the time of the latest OTA update. Now they don't control music or answer phone calls. I highly doubt the headphones broke but I ordered a replacement cable just in case so hopefully that's it but I suspect they broke something with the update.
Hi! I was wondering of an app that can live monitor my voice on my omnia, in other words I want to hear my voice on the headset so I can connect my phone with an amplified loudspeaker and hear my voice live (without delays) in the loudspeaker. Is that possible? That wold be cool, turn your phone into a speaker system. Please if you can do a reserach and give me an answer, thank you!
mic in headphone jack?
So, does the X10 have the 4 connector-type of headphone jack? Mono headphone jacks have only two conductor areas separated by an insulator; stereo headphone jacks have a third zone; and there are some devices that use a fourth zone adding a presumably mono mic to the mix.
I've been thinking Bluetooth is the only way to add a mic to the X10.
I have one of these mic/headphone combos for my ipod (for skype) and it does the same thing with my X10. I found that if I plugged it in the X10, then pulled it out by about 2-3mm, it worked fine for audio and microphone, but the button would be inactive. Best workaround I can think of.
the original headphone with mic is the best, don`t need to change it
wow so now my skullcandy's w/mic decide to work on pandora radio..
I found this adapter, which might be a fix for the hard-wiring. It's called "FiiO LU1 smart adaptor cable converter".
I am also looking for a wired headset (not in-ears). I know the one from Koss iPorta Pro isn't working.
Today, I found this other one, pretty cool, which claims to be working for most sonyericsson phones: Cresyn C550S black.
Not sure if the adapter is needed though. Maybe it would fix the problem with the
Let me know if you are using any nice wired headphone with mic that is working with x10!

[Q] Make calls over external speaker when in cardock

I have the official Samsung cardock, and connected it to my car radio (the cardock has a 3.5mm jack output). Nice, now I can listen to the music on my phone over my carspeakers!
BUT:
Whenever I make or receive a call, the sound of the conversation keeps channeling through the phone's own external speaker. Disabling the phone's external speaker (either during the call or beforehand) does not fix it. It just néver get's through the 3.5mm jack output to my car stereo. Annoying, since my car is pretty loud when speeding.
[Q]How to channel the audio of a voicecall to the jack-output? Does anybody know of a fix for this? I have looked around-and-around-and-around, and have asked this before. Just can't believe I'm the only-one that is bothered by this!
I AM NOT LOOKING FOR BLUETOOTH-CARKIT-SUGGESTIONS, no matter how nice you guys mean it
Anybody any idea?
Nobody no ideas?
I would like to do this too, speeding along the motorway the phone speaker is just too quiet.
rickgillyon said:
I would like to do this too, speeding along the motorway the phone speaker is just too quiet.
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Ah, at least I'm not the only one... Now let's hope some dev is bothered by the same problem
I guess this is gonna be one of those unanswered questions...
Bump-bumptie-dum
I recon if I bump long enough, someone with the solution should notice this question sooner or later; Although I realize that moment might be somewhere around 2015, with an answer like "Buy a galaxy S9 mate..."
Anyone?
Is the S9 there yet? Or else a solution to my problem?
I have a std aux input into my car stereo. Plugging a stereo 3.5 lead from the phone jack into the stereo aux I can listen to all sounds from the phone over all car speakers including calls... Just like when a headset is connected. Calls go over car speakers and phone mic picks up voice.
It would seem then that its the official samsung dock being treated different to a simple direct lead connection.
My only gripe is during calls the phones mic works but thinks its on a std call and is a bit weak. Wish I could force the mic into speakerphone mode or the levels associated with that mode anyway. Btw... Turning on speakerphone while lead is connected stops the output over the speakers.
I have a trrs mic / stereo splitter adapter and a seperate car 3.5 mic but again the mic levels on the phone in headset mode need boosting.
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EzDingo said:
I have a std aux input into my car stereo. Plugging a stereo 3.5 lead from the phone jack into the stereo aux I can listen to all sounds from the phone over all car speakers including calls... Just like when a headset is connected. Calls go over car speakers and phone mic picks up voice.
It would seem then that its the official samsung dock being treated different to a simple direct lead connection.
My only gripe is during calls the phones mic works but thinks its on a std call and is a bit weak. Wish I could force the mic into speakerphone mode or the levels associated with that mode anyway. Btw... Turning on speakerphone while lead is connected stops the output over the speakers.
I have a trrs mic / stereo splitter adapter and a seperate car 3.5 mic but again the mic levels on the phone in headset mode need boosting.
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Hmm... So maybe if I use a splitter to merge the signal from both the cardock AND the phonejack...
Thnx m8! Not entirely what I was looking for (one more thing to do when plugging in my phone in the car), but it just-might-work!
Will report back
Just note I do not 'need' the splitter to make it work. Without a splitter it works just fine using car speakers and the phones mic (as the aux lead is std audio lead only - not including the third ring position for the mic).
I just got the splitter to use a seperate external mic in the car. The splitter simply has all 3 rings to make phone think its a full headset connected like the set that comes in the box with the phone and splits audio and mic into 2 seperate connections. This way I then take the std aux lead from the audio split to the stereo for listening over the car speakers and use the mic split for plugging in any std 3.5 external mic.
EzDingo said:
Just note I do not 'need' the splitter to make it work. Without a splitter it works just fine using car speakers and the phones mic (as the aux lead is std audio lead only - not including the third ring position for the mic).
I just got the splitter to use a seperate external mic in the car. The splitter simply has all 3 rings to make phone think its a full headset connected like the set that comes in the box with the phone and splits audio and mic into 2 seperate connections. This way I then take the std aux lead from the audio split to the stereo for listening over the car speakers and use the mic split for plugging in any std 3.5 external mic.
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I understood that, it's just that I would probably need a splitter in my specific situation, since all my music gets played through the cardock by default as soon as I plug in the phone... It's possible to disable this automatic switch of audiorouting when the phone get's plugged in though, but somehow it just doesn't feel right to NOT use the audio-out feature of the cardock

sk17i mini pro - remote control earphones?

Do you guys know of any in-line remote control earphones that work with the mini pro?
I've been searching the internet and apparently, the mini pro has a non-standard 3.5 jack. If you plug some regular earphones in the socket or use the pre-packaged earphones in another device the sound gets distorted.
I've been using the earphones that came pre-packaged with the phone but they're really tatty and worn out now. And they only have 1 button. (I know there are apps that can rewind/fastforward etc based on how many times you press the button, but I'd like more control.
So which models should I go for? You'd think that you'd be safe buying any Sony earphones, but even they aren't 100% compatible with the mini pro. Failing that, is there some kind of adapter I could use?
daaabs said:
I've been searching the internet and apparently, the mini pro has a non-standard 3.5 jack. If you plug some regular earphones in the socket or use the pre-packaged earphones in another device the sound gets distorted.
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It's a standard 3.5 jack in the mini pro, no distortion with other headphones. Which means you should be able to use any standard pair of remote control headphones.
I don't use volume control headphones, but I sure don't use the junkphones sony provided with the phone, no problems whatsoever.
Not quite the same but bluetooth adapters have buttons (like the mw600)
Thanks but I listen to music a lot on my phone and I can't spare the battery life.
It's definitely a non-standard 3.5mm jack on my mini pro. I know because I've tried other earphones with it and the sound is distorted. Similarly, I've tried the pre-packaged earphones in other devices and there is hardly any treble at all unless I hold down the mic button.
Has anyone got their XMP working with a remote-control headset?
any headphone will work, its a standard 3,5mm jack, im using a brainwavz headphone and works perfectly
Battery lasts longer when using a bluetooth like the mw600 for playing music through headphones
as the adapter is the amp (The headphones plug into it) Also the headphone jack on the phone is a standard!
DK71 said:
Battery lasts longer when using a bluetooth like the mw600 for playing music through headphones
as the adapter is the amp (The headphones plug into it) Also the headphone jack on the phone is a standard!
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Are you seriously saying that having the bluetooth constantly switched-on and paired to the earphones gives a BETTER battery life? That's probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The amps inside earphones are tiny and hardly draw any power at all. If we were talking about big home theater speakers then you'd probably be right.
And it's definitely not a standard 3.5mm jack. Like I say, I've tried normal earphones in the mini pro and I've tried the earphones that came with the mini pro in other devices and the sound is totally distorted. I have to keep the answer call button constantly pressed down to get a decent sound out of them, which isn't practical.
So does anybody know which wired, remote-control earphones WILL work with the mini pro?
Afaik android doesn't support the separate play, pause, stop, next button for controlling music.
I had the wh-701 earphone which came default with nokia n8. It got the remote control for music but none of the buttons ever work with my lww, and i doubt it ever will, its android limitation.
an0nym0us_ said:
Afaik android doesn't support the separate play, pause, stop, next button for controlling music.
I had the wh-701 earphone which came default with nokia n8. It got the remote control for music but none of the buttons ever work with my lww, and i doubt it ever will, its android limitation.
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So... It's an Android limitation the fact that some earphones with remote contol buttons doesn't work... That kinda sucks :/
daaabs said:
Are you seriously saying that having the bluetooth constantly switched-on and paired to the earphones gives a BETTER battery life? That's probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The amps inside earphones are tiny and hardly draw any power at all. If we were talking about big home theater speakers then you'd probably be right.
And it's definitely not a standard 3.5mm jack. Like I say, I've tried normal earphones in the mini pro and I've tried the earphones that came with the mini pro in other devices and the sound is totally distorted. I have to keep the answer call button constantly pressed down to get a decent sound out of them, which isn't practical.
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Firstly the phones battery lasts longer when playing music through bluetooth adaper thats powering the headphones
like the mw600 to headphones Vs playing music directly to headphones plugged into the phone.
Ive used the adapter on a few different phones!
For the last time I will repeat these words. The Mini pro has a 3.5mm jack.
Read & learn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headphones

BIG PROBLEM...terrible Noise USB Docking audio/charging out

Has anyone noticed terrible noise when using an S3 docking system or cable to output both Audio and Charging?
- extreme hiss and random noise, machine processor noise, crackle etc. (only if charger is plugged in as well)
- after 2 seconds of no sound, you can hear what resembles to be an AUDIO gate...that kicks in and mutes the noise until you trigger your next button sound.
- Even if you listen to a song, and think it doesn't happen while listening to a song...IT'S still there...fighting the song and causing degradation in Audio quality.
- not too mention, phone calls will NOT route through the USB jack, and music and navigation type stuff.
- if you unplug the charger, the sound cleans right up and sounds fine. It's the combination of having the audio and charging outputs all in one.
- ground loop isolators do not help
I have a background as an audio technician and some electronics skills and I did hours of testing and modding...unfortunately! All failed. I own an Ibolt car cradle (which I did most of my testing with), a KiDiGi desktop docking cradle, and I even hand made a cable that could trigger docking mode. All three of these scenarios FAILED with the NOISE factor.
I have resigned to thinking it is a hardware design bug with the S3. I have modified my Ibolt so that it sends out audio from an extra cable that plugs into the Headphone Jack...which as a bonus, as sends Dialer audio.
(I just realized that this is the i9300 thread, and I have a i747m but maybe this thread could help all the same)
I've had three S3's and used USB audio out to my car stereo via 3.5mm. None ever generated any additional noise.
CZ Eddie said:
I've had three S3's and used USB audio out to my car stereo via 3.5mm. None ever generated any additional noise.
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Eddie...can you confirm these points:
1) You have a usb cable or dock that comes out the bottom of your S3, and it splits into USB for charging....and 3.5mm for audio? (NOT THE HEADPHONE OUT)
Is it a cable or dock and would you mind tell me the name of it?
2) What do you plug the audio into?
- stock car audio input
- front aux input on a car deck stereo system (stock/aftermarket)
- rear aux inputs to aftermarket stereo
- other?
3) with the steareo turned up fairly loud, but no music playing, do you hear any noise when you click buttons (assuming you have audio enabled for button clicks in Android settings) When pausing between loud music, do you hear any white noise, machine noise, hiss etc.?
4) What is your S3 model? (i9300?) and what OS version.
themadproducer said:
1) You have a usb cable or dock that comes out the bottom of your S3, and it splits into USB for charging....and 3.5mm for audio? (NOT THE HEADPHONE OUT)
Is it a cable or dock and would you mind tell me the name of it?
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I've used the Samsung Infuse and also iBolt docks. Both have the split USB cable for charging & 3.mm audio.
themadproducer said:
2) What do you plug the audio into?
- stock car audio input
- front aux input on a car deck stereo system (stock/aftermarket)
- rear aux inputs to aftermarket stereo
- other?
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I use the front AUX input on my JVC car stereo.
themadproducer said:
3) with the steareo turned up fairly loud, but no music playing, do you hear any noise when you click buttons (assuming you have audio enabled for button clicks in Android settings) When pausing between loud music, do you hear any white noise, machine noise, hiss etc.?
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I don't remember any noise when clicking buttons?
But we're talking about AUX input which is analog, so when you turn the volume up with no music playing, you'll always hear some "soft" occasional clicks & hiss.
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4) What is your S3 model? (i9300?) and what OS version.
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AT&T GS3 with various ICS ROM's. I don't use AUX anymore because my favorite ROM (AOKP) doesn't have audio out capability when docked.
CZ Eddie said:
I've used the Samsung Infuse and also iBolt docks. Both have the split USB cable for charging & 3.mm audio.
I use the front AUX input on my JVC car stereo.
I don't remember any noise when clicking buttons?
But we're talking about AUX input which is analog, so when you turn the volume up with no music playing, you'll always hear some "soft" occasional clicks & hiss.
AT&T GS3 with various ICS ROM's. I don't use AUX anymore because my favorite ROM (AOKP) doesn't have audio out capability when docked.
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Thanks for replying Eddie. I am so sick of this troubleshooting this crap sometimes. I am very happy with the S3. It is a giant leap forward from my HD2...in most ways...but not all. I am suspecting the USB audio out on my S3 has a defect.
Right now, in the car, I have resigned to using the USB for power and the Headphone jack for audio send to the AUX input of my Sony car stereo on a custom wired Ibolt docking cradle. I still get some PROCESSOR noise when pressing the buttons but it is about 5% of the intensity of using the stock wired Ibolt, or KiDiGi desktop dock...or my hand wired Ycable. Without the USB charging wired up, there is NO NOISE whatsoever with either method.
Digital Output
Reading many threads last night, I discovered that with some roms/kernels, it is also possible to output pure DIGITAL audio from the S3 USB port into a select number of little affordable boutique like amps which decode and amplify the audio and power spkrs and headphones.
My first S3 had some weird noise when using bluetooth. So I drove over to my local corporate AT&T store and let them know. They walked out to my car with a demo S3 and we tested it and it didn't have any noise at all. So they swapped out my phone for a new one and I've been happy ever since.
Maybe you could try that?
Regarding boutique amps... this guy in one of my threads was talking about that. I didn't understand half of what he said.
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum...h-compatible-car-stereo-deck.html#post1674875
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My first S3 had some weird noise when using bluetooth. So I drove over to my local corporate AT&T store and let them know. They walked out to my car with a demo S3 and we tested it and it didn't have any noise at all. So they swapped out my phone for a new one and I've been happy ever since.
Maybe you could try that?
Regarding boutique amps... this guy in one of my threads was talking about that. I didn't understand half of what he said.
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum...h-compatible-car-stereo-deck.html#post1674875
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Yup that's it. There are a few examples on youtube. Interesting how it's this TRADE SECRET feature. I mean, I have not seen this advertised anywhere and the places on the net where I found examples....the guys talk about it as if it's this common well known feature. Apparently, next to having one of these setups, the Iphone4 has the the best rating for sound/volume/curve output...almost neck to neck with a dedicated DAC...I think they call it!
I bet if I spent another $100+ bucks for one of these amps, and ran it in my car through a power Inverter (12v to 110v inverter), that I could run the Digital signal out without the interference of my USB analogue out issue. But, I am past that now.
Thanks for your input Eddie!
DAC direct solved this problem for me with Siyah Kernel.
This also happens when you are charged with a car charger and using the line out.
Sent from my GT-I9300
Arkanius said:
DAC direct solved this problem for me with Siyah Kernel.
This also happens when you are charged with a car charger and using the line out.
Sent from my GT-I9300
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Arkanius...are you saying...
1) You had the same terrible noise when charging in a car.... with usb audio analogue into aux input of car stereo?
2) and that you hooked up a DAC to resolve the car noise issue? If yes, would you mind sharing the DAC model with us and the cable used?
Although I may be digging up an old thread, it may be worth looking into (Currently majoring in Electrical Engineering and having completed two signal analysis classes).
themadproducer, were you able to get a spectrum output of the noise? If it just a set of static frequencies, a cascading array of notch filters may work out
EDIT: reading your mention of the USB charging, its quite possible that if the voltage converter is of cheap quality, the transistors involved in the voltage conversion from 12.0-14.0 Volts DC down to ~5.0 Volts DC may be giving off Radio Frequency noise, with the noise being picked by the audio cable due to physical proximity, akin to cross-talking in network cables ( a form of mutual inductance)

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