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I recently bought a Milestone X2 and I want to switch it out with the service I am getting on my Verizon Droid 3. I've searched around and I wasnt able to find any straight answer on how to go about doing this. So, how do I get my Verizon service and number to go in use on my Milestone X2? Do I call Verizon tech support or go to the store and have them add it? Or can I just flash a different sbf? Or do I do both? All help is much appreciated!
most likely the mx2 will not work on verizon
which model mx2?
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to see is you device will work on verizon check here
Check Your Device
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/estore/certifieddevice/cd
if it will work activate here
Activate or Switch Device
https://myaccount.verizonwireless.com/clp/login?redirect=/vzw/secure/services/activatePhone.action
Are you serious? On the label behind the battery it says MB867
Droid models are made for Verizon, they have rights to the 'droid' name
Milestone models are for other carriers.
verizon is a CDMA carrier, most other carriers are GMS
Droid 3s are made for verizon, but have CDMA and GMS global radio
X2s are CDMA or GSM
List of United States wireless communications service providers
but to be sure, use the Check Your Device
you need a MEID HEX CDMA ID (looks like A000002d3443r2)
more about this in my list
sd_shadow's [Collection] of Links: FAQs, Guides, Rooting, SBFs, ROMs... - Google Docs
Check Your Device tells me that the ID is invalid and to contact Customer Support. This phone is CDMA and use to run on a regional network
does MEID HEX look like A000002d3443r2
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does MEID HEX look like A000002d3443r2
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yes it does
the mx2 is a cdma only device that does not operate on the bands that versizon use for 3g it should not nor do i think it will ever work for verizon. you actually have better luck with moving the phone to sprint as the network band the mx2 support are owned by sprint for 3g service. 800 and 1900 mhz. verizon uses the 2000mhz band for 3g. it takes some major firmware and hardware mods to get it to function on multiple networks. your better off purchasing a used verizon phone and working with that unless your willing to just have 1x access and only make phone calls and texts(no mms) and that has a snow balls chance in hell of actually working.
Ah, guess I'm out of luck then :/ now I'm stuck with a $150 paper weight
wow, I think you over paid
should be able to get a used Droid X2, on ebay for under $100
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/Cell-Phones-Smartphones-/9355/i.html?LH_BIN=1&_from=R40&_nkw=droid+x2&_dcat=9355&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3000
it came with a case and other accessories
I'd try to resell on ebay or craigslist
Lrs121 said:
the mx2 is a cdma only device that does not operate on the bands that versizon use for 3g it should not nor do i think it will ever work for verizon. you actually have better luck with moving the phone to sprint as the network band the mx2 support are owned by sprint for 3g service. 800 and 1900 mhz. verizon uses the 2000mhz band for 3g. it takes some major firmware and hardware mods to get it to function on multiple networks. your better off purchasing a used verizon phone and working with that unless your willing to just have 1x access and only make phone calls and texts(no mms) and that has a snow balls chance in hell of actually working.
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What are the chances that the phone could work on Sprint? Do they allow other devices?
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What are the chances that the phone could work on Sprint? Do they allow other devices?
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Unknown I just know what technologies they use. You would have to contact a sprint representative
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Is it possible to unlock the Verizon version of the S4? I'm deploying in 4 weeks and would like to use my phone with international carriers. I have an SCH-I545 build and I'm still running on stock. Thanks
I think ATT has begun to unlock phones internationally when asked.
Verizon? Not sure... one think to check is if the Verizon GS4 supports a carrier in the country you travel to.
Take a look at Leo Laporte's Tech Guy show... he has callers ask this quetion on average every other week... I think he has show notes on his site now days... techguylabs.com
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PetrichorXFi said:
I think ATT has begun to unlock phones internationally when asked.
Verizon? Not sure... one think to check is if the Verizon GS4 supports a carrier in the country you travel to.
Take a look at Leo Laporte's Tech Guy show... he has callers ask this quetion on average every other week... I think he has show notes on his site now days... techguylabs.com
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Verizon phones are unlocked out of the box, but you have to make sure that the country you are going to has a GSM network.
After a lot of searching, I decided to ask this here:
I have a Verizon S4, but I was wondering if it was actually unlocked out-of-box or if there is something I have to do in order to use it with, for instance, Cricket, or U.S. Cellular. I have done lots of rooting/developing for Android, but have never tried to use an Android phone with a differing carrier. Can anyone help or point me to a thread that helps? (Again, did lots of Googling and XDA-searching)
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After a lot of searching, I decided to ask this here:
I have a Verizon S4, but I was wondering if it was actually unlocked out-of-box or if there is something I have to do in order to use it with, for instance, Cricket, or U.S. Cellular. I have done lots of rooting/developing for Android, but have never tried to use an Android phone with a differing carrier. Can anyone help or point me to a thread that helps? (Again, did lots of Googling and XDA-searching)
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The phone is GSM-unlocked. This means that you buy a SIM, plug it in, then add the proper APN to enable data. (Settings, Connections, More networks, Mobile networks, Access Point Names). The "+" (Add APN) button is disabled if you have a VZ SIM installed but will be enabled if you insert a non-VZ SIM.
Whoever you get the SIM from will tell you what to enter for the APN.
Whether or not it'll work and how fast a network you'll get depends on the bands that the local carrier uses.
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The phone is GSM-unlocked. This means that you buy a SIM, plug it in, then add the proper APN to enable data. (Settings, Connections, More networks, Mobile networks, Access Point Names). The "+" (Add APN) button is disabled if you have a VZ SIM installed but will be enabled if you insert a non-VZ SIM.
Whoever you get the SIM from will tell you what to enter for the APN.
Whether or not it'll work and how fast a network you'll get depends on the bands that the local carrier uses.
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HI k1mu,
So do you mean to say if I purchase this device with full price from VZW ~$400 (month to month plan),
the next thing I can do is take off VZW SIM and would it work on my AT&T GSM SIM in US?
malhotra.aakash said:
HI k1mu,
So do you mean to say if I purchase this device with full price from VZW ~$400 (month to month plan),
the next thing I can do is take off VZW SIM and would it work on my AT&T GSM SIM in US?
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Maybe. While the VZW version is GSM-unlocked for international use, it is unclear how well it works with US GSM carriers. Some people say they can get it to work, some say they can't. Theoretically, it should only take you putting in an AT&T SIM then plugging in the APN data for it to work, but some people still say it won't.
So, you should be able to, but going by the accounts of XDA members, it doesn't always work, which may or may not come down to user error.
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Maybe. While the VZW version is GSM-unlocked for international use, it is unclear how well it works with US GSM carriers. Some people say they can get it to work, some say they can't. Theoretically, it should only take you putting in an AT&T SIM then plugging in the APN data for it to work, but some people still say it won't.
So, you should be able to, but going by the accounts of XDA members, it doesn't always work, which may or may not come down to user error.
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Thanks joshm.1219,
It still leaves me in a dilemma.. I do really want to get a "S4 mini" model but don't want to stuck up with CDMA providers to be true. Might want to use with ATT or Tmobile or H2O.. I visited the VZW store and the model has option under networks as
1. Global
2. LTE/CDMA
3. GSM/UTMS
Now the Qs are,
1. If this model does have a SIM card slot, how at the first point VZW has lock on it
2. When i asked the VZW associate, he was not sure whether they ever do unlock the device or not
3. If I am ready to pay off complete price of the device which is ~400, what else I would need from them to really 'UNLOCK' it?
4. Is there any means by root/flashing to make such model work for US GSM carriers like H2O or even T-mobile.
Sorry to be so annoying but m new to all these things and quite confused :crying:
many Thx in advance..
malhotra.aakash said:
Thanks joshm.1219,
It still leaves me in a dilemma.. I do really want to get a "S4 mini" model but don't want to stuck up with CDMA providers to be true. Might want to use with ATT or Tmobile or H2O.. I visited the VZW store and the model has option under networks as
1. Global
2. LTE/CDMA
3. GSM/UTMS
Now the Qs are,
1. If this model does have a SIM card slot, how at the first point VZW has lock on it
2. When i asked the VZW associate, he was not sure whether they ever do unlock the device or not
3. If I am ready to pay off complete price of the device which is ~400, what else I would need from them to really 'UNLOCK' it?
4. Is there any means by root/flashing to make such model work for US GSM carriers like H2O or even T-mobile.
Sorry to be so annoying but m new to all these things and quite confused :crying:
many Thx in advance..
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Sorry I can't be of more help, I've been on Verizon for 10 years now, but it is by all intents & purposes, fully SIM-unlocked. It's simply unclear as to why some people report problems of using Verizon phones on US GSM carriers. If you really don't want to worry about it & are willing to pay full price, purchase a device through the carrier you want to use it on.
here is the code to choose network
you might need to change the network frequency to gsm if you wanna use it on att or tmobile and when you wanna switch back to verizon choose wcdma try dialing *#*#4636#*#*:good:
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Sorry I can't be of more help, I've been on Verizon for 10 years now, but it is by all intents & purposes, fully SIM-unlocked. It's simply unclear as to why some people report problems of using Verizon phones on US GSM carriers. If you really don't want to worry about it & are willing to pay full price, purchase a device through the carrier you want to use it on.
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I've had people argue with me over this, but the fact is that NO Verizon LTE phone is SIM-locked. None. Nada.
People who claim differently are simply misinformed. (My I545 comes up on AT&T when I plug in my UK SIM and switch to GSM.)
Not to say that all VZ phones are unlocked - my Inc2 had to be unlocked before it would work with that same SIM. If I remember right, it wouldn't connect in the US, either, even after being unlocked. Not so for the GS4.
I appreciate the posts here from people who know. As for me, I am switching to tmobile and will attempt to use this there. If it doesnt work out, I will sell it on swappa and get a nexus 5!
Hi,
Verizon S4 with 4.3 is international unlocked by default.
You just need to select network mode 'GLOBAL'. Then add the right APN.
I am using Indian GSM SIM with the GLOBAL mode selected. All is well for me.
I can provide screenshots if anybody wanna see.
Verizon phones are unlocked out of the box and they DO work fine on US carriers I'm running my Verizon S4 right now on AT&T and I also ran it on tmobile for short time,
even works with Walmart straight talk and Net10 as those are just subsidies of T Mobile and AT&T anyway.
so don't sweat it if you have a verizon phone that uses a sim card, you can run it on any network that uses a SIM card US or international.
baseband issue
Doesn't the MK2 baseband with jb 4.3 block US Sim cards?
Or do I just have a weird s4?
kendonsh said:
Doesn't the MK2 baseband with jb 4.3 block US Sim cards?
Or do I just have a weird s4?
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Mine dont? Im on mk2,
soon as I got my verizon s4 replacement from a damaged model that I turned in,
I threw a net10/att sim card in it.
completely stock phone not even rooted nothin, and it works fine, I did get a popup that said non Verizon SIM card but it works fine
calls in and out MMS works fine
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CafeAdrutico said:
The S4 is supposed to work globally right out of the box, as long as you've called Verizon to enable International roaming on your account. But, used that way, you'll be paying Verizon for International roaming and it's bloody expensive.
The question is, can you remove the SIM and put in a SIM for a local carrier in the foreign country where you are and use the phone on that carrier? That is what being unlocked would allow you to do. Past Verizon phones have not been unlocked to allow this. But, if you called Tech Support and told them you were going to, for example, Europe and wanted to use a local SIM, they would walk you through unlocking (at no charge).
I read a report that the S4 is not locked and that you can use a SIM for a local carrier in Europe, as it comes out of the box. But, I would not trust that. I would call VZW Tech Support and tell them exactly what you want to do - i.e. don't say "can I use my phone in Europe?" The answer to that is yes, you can, at about $1/minute. What you should ask them is, "can I travel to Europe and purchase a SIM from a local carrier and use that in my phone?" If not, they should be able to walk you through unlocking the phone, so you can do that.
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to answer your question simply yes.
let's say I take my phone to Spain are somewhere in the UK, I'll go to store buy a SIM card for local network and BAM local phone number in Europe making phone calls, you can even get Data to work if you have that local carrier's APN settings
no unlocking is required because it is not locked.
other companies AT&T, Sprint, t-mobile, yes you have to get The phone sim unlocked.
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I've had people argue with me over this, but the fact is that NO Verizon LTE phone is SIM-locked. None. Nada.
People who claim differently are simply misinformed. (My I545 comes up on AT&T when I plug in my UK SIM and switch to GSM.)
Not to say that all VZ phones are unlocked - my Inc2 had to be unlocked before it would work with that same SIM. If I remember right, it wouldn't connect in the US, either, even after being unlocked. Not so for the GS4.
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This is 100% correct. NO LTE phones on verizon are sim locked. They are REQUIRED to keep them unlocked because of their agreement with the FCC for their use of the spectrum they lease. NO OTHER CARRIER must abide by these rules. Only VZW. Sprint I've heard will unlock ANY phone that is capable if you ask them too, and AT&T will NOT unlock any of their phones unless it 2 years old and out of contract (which makes no sense if you have to pay them while under contract anyway). There was a big deal about the Iphone 5 when it came out with LTE for verizon. If you bought a Verizon Iphone, you could put an ATT sim in it and it works, but not an ATT on VZW because ATT keeps them locked.
The Dinc 2 above was NOT an LTE device. Therefore no sim card....and it wouldn't work on most overseas networks anyway as it was a CDMA only phone. I believe VZW tested the limits of the "unlocked" SIM with their first few LTE phones. My Rezound worked with a GSM network sim....but voice and SMS only. It took some unlocking of the bootloader and rooting to run a special Rom to get Data to work on it.
I am heading to the Caribbean in a few weeks, and I will be using a rented SIM card to be able to message back and forth with my wife (with a data based messenger service as data rates are far cheaper than SMS rate there)
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This is 100% correct. NO LTE phones on verizon are sim locked. They are REQUIRED to keep them unlocked because of their agreement with the FCC for their use of the spectrum they lease. NO OTHER CARRIER must abide by these rules. Only VZW. Sprint I've heard will unlock ANY phone that is capable if you ask them too, and AT&T will NOT unlock any of their phones unless it 2 years old and out of contract (which makes no sense if you have to pay them while under contract anyway). There was a big deal about the Iphone 5 when it came out with LTE for verizon. If you bought a Verizon Iphone, you could put an ATT sim in it and it works, but not an ATT on VZW because ATT keeps them locked.
The Dinc 2 above was NOT an LTE device. Therefore no sim card....and it wouldn't work on most overseas networks anyway as it was a CDMA only phone. I believe VZW tested the limits of the "unlocked" SIM with their first few LTE phones. My Rezound worked with a GSM network sim....but voice and SMS only. It took some unlocking of the bootloader and rooting to run a special Rom to get Data to work on it.
I am heading to the Caribbean in a few weeks, and I will be using a rented SIM card to be able to message back and forth with my wife (with a data based messenger service as data rates are far cheaper than SMS rate there)
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I just spent a week in the UK with an ekit.com SIM in my Verizon GS4 - no problem with getting service, no Verizon charge (even though I was on the Vodaphone network for at least some times.)
And the dinc 2, while not LTE, was CDMA/GSM - not just CDMA (yes, the dinc was CDMA-only), so it did accept a SIM card. I'm using that in the GS4 now that it's cut down to micro SIM.
That phone WAS SIM-locked, but VZ happily unlocked it. For the GS4, I didn't have to do anything with VZ to use it off their network.
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Is it possible to unlock the Verizon version of the S4? I'm deploying in 4 weeks and would like to use my phone with international carriers. I have an SCH-I545 build and I'm still running on stock. Thanks
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DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO
UNLFOK s4 UK VERSION sorry I'm new to the website
furballbeethoven said:
After a lot of searching, I decided to ask this here:
I have a Verizon S4, but I was wondering if it was actually unlocked out-of-box or if there is something I have to do in order to use it with, for instance, Cricket, or U.S. Cellular. I have done lots of rooting/developing for Android, but have never tried to use an Android phone with a differing carrier. Can anyone help or point me to a thread that helps? (Again, did lots of Googling and XDA-searching)
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The phone is already unlocked for SIM and other carriers, all you need is the correct APN for the carrier. I currently have T-Mobile on my i545 and everything works on it.
As regular XDA folks, many knew the tight bond between Honor and XDA. While that's great for the development of a device, there are somethings that got compromised in view10 hence I couldn't go for it. Most probably you'd also need to skip for some of the reasons!
USB v2!!! (Come on Honor, This is 2018)
Mono cam as 2nd lens (Though honor claims it enhancing Pic, we see Mate 10 doesn't have Mono sensor nor OP3 with single cam+HDR+ captures stunning pics)
LCD (This is not a bumper for all, but I felt just like many other LCDs minimum brightness device can go to is bit bright and hurt my eyes during Night dark scenes. AMOLED is welcome)
Flagship coming with Bluetooth v4.2 in 2018?
No clarification of LTE+ (In India hardly manufactures reach out to consumers. I love the way Honor does it via XDA. But I posted this question https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75249748&postcount=97 and https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75234210&postcount=1081 and am still confused if it supports CA or not! For Indian band answer is nowhere available http://www.huawei.com/en/news/2017/9/Huawei-Kirin970-Rohde-Schwarz Still no answers after a week! )
Camera hump ( Not a big deal for me anyway)
Long term software support (Honor seems to give only 1 year of software OS/sec. patch support)
[*]No ROMs available so far
[*]Unavailability of AOSP ROM and Honor trying to force EMUI (At XDA everyone loves features on top of AOSP. But Honor seems to welcome dev without sharing vanilla AOSP sources on top of which EMUI is built. I'd love to see fully functional AOSP in EMUI. While Thanks to Treble,Thats been worked out, if Honor hellps devs out that would mean much dev-friendly device and also comeup ROMs in https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-view-10/development ) Calling big boys to party with free phones hopefully ensures this https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-announces-developers-honor-view-10-recipients/
Few other points I missed.,
@ermacwins No EIS or OIS
No one universal model (v10 has Region specific models, Check https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75394470&postcount=19)
I hope to get some answers @[email protected]_USA @DrGreenway
Thus with this list is the max no cons one can come up with. If none of this feels like Con then not even Oneplus has a better device at this price point for this. Hope Honor takes these Inputs to make me their future iterations..!
"No ROMs available so far"
Phh-Treble boots. So does Uber too, but we're rebasing on CAF. Until I see sources from Honor, I and other developers can't do much, but at least they are trying
"USB V2"
It is type C, and it's pretty fast. I don't see the problem here.
Regarding the mono camera lense... Is that even a con? It's pretty damn good. Took some 20mp shots the other day when I went to the hospital and they are beautiful.
And not providing an AOSP based ROM is distant. Would I prefer it? Yes. But the only three OEMs I've seen doing this are Sony, OnePlus, and Google (obviously). Their AI wouldn't be as prominent either. I sort of get what you're saying though. Nothing a custom ROM can't fix
BUT. None of those issues are actual problems for me. I have a really hard time critiquing the device. Only thing I wish it had is waterproofing and US bands.... Best device I've ever had to date.
CertifiedBlyndGuy said:
"No ROMs available so far"
Phh-Treble boots. So does Uber too, but we're rebasing on CAF. Until I see sources from Honor, I and other developers can't do much, but at least they are trying
---"USB V2" It is type C, and it's pretty fast. I don't see the problem here.
---Regarding the mono camera lense... Is that even a con? It's pretty damn good. Took some 20mp shots the other day when I went to the hospital and they are beautiful.
---And not providing an AOSP based ROM is distant. Would I prefer it? Yes. But the only three OEMs I've seen doing this are Sony, OnePlus, and Google (obviously). Their AI wouldn't be as prominent either. I sort of get what you're saying though. Nothing a custom ROM can't fix
BUT. None of those issues are actual problems for me. I have a really hard time critiquing the device. Only thing I wish it had is waterproofing and US bands.... Best device I've ever had to date.
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Yeah thats exactly my point. I'm great that devs are working for Treble but unless OEMs like Huawei help with some AOSP blobs/sources its difficult. Also, phone is supposed to get its software support die pretty soon (like in a year, which is unreasonable for a flagship grade phone)
Also, I use Samsung T3 pocket SSD, which connect via USB-C. Most of laptops also connect like that. Why should I compromise with terrible speeds of 34MBps max when my Phone has UFS storage of 200MBps and SSD more than that, due to decade old USB version? USB-C is just a socket, Bus version matters.
Camera, As you agreed pics are good using a single lens. 2nd cam in the phone seems a total waste of space, wherein If Wide-angle lens has gone in it would have been much useful!
About AOSP while others are doing it, for software development that's critical. Else no one dev will hope into dev. You have N no. of phones, Samsung/LG/etc devices where hardly any ROM will be developed expect stock. I'm hoping this phone with such great hardware shouldn't go through that same thing. For AI and stuffs all those can be part of /vender so that /system can seemlessly evolve...
Waterproof and US Bands are good points, what I am emphasizing is Honor seems like they're imitating OnePlus to give better device and I am justifying that they still don't listen to hardcore android freaks despite they pertain to that...
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Yeah thats exactly my point. I'm great that devs are working for Treble but unless OEMs like Huawei help with some AOSP blobs/sources its difficult. Also, phone is supposed to get its software support die pretty soon (like in a year, which is unreasonable for a flagship grade phone)
Also, I use Samsung T3 pocket SSD, which connect via USB-C. Most of laptops also connect like that. Why should I compromise with terrible speeds of 34MBps max when my Phone has UFS storage of 200MBps and SSD more than that, due to decade old USB version? USB-C is just a socket, Bus version matters.
Camera, As you agreed pics are good using a single lens. 2nd cam in the phone seems a total waste of space, wherein If Wide-angle lens has gone in it would have been much useful!
About AOSP while others are doing it, for software development that's critical. Else no one dev will hope into dev. You have N no. of phones, Samsung/LG/etc devices where hardly any ROM will be developed expect stock. I'm hoping this phone with such great hardware shouldn't go through that same thing. For AI and stuffs all those can be part of /vender so that /system can seemlessly evolve...
Waterproof and US Bands are good points, what I am emphasizing is Honor seems like they're imitating OnePlus to give better device and I am justifying that they still don't listen to hardcore android freaks despite they pertain to that...
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Having a ROM closer to AOSP wouldn't help development at all sadly. You could put Hello Kitty ROM on the thing and there's no determent or aid for developers.
I'm aware that type C is a socket. I'm getting speeds higher than v2 though. I don't use it enough outside of fastboot to really care.
We will be getting sources for the thing pretty soon actually. As far as what we get, it's up to us developers to push for it. They've contacted a few of us directly to reinforce what we need.
Lack of carrier aggregation is the only reason stopping me to buy Honor View 10. I tried to find the info everywhere even Honor India support is clueless if CA is available in this device
No EIS or OIS is definitely a con
no image stabilization and at least for now a lack of root.
CertifiedBlyndGuy said:
"No ROMs available so far"
Phh-Treble boots. So does Uber too, but we're rebasing on CAF. Until I see sources from Honor, I and other developers can't do much, but at least they are trying
"USB V2"
It is type C, and it's pretty fast. I don't see the problem here.
Regarding the mono camera lense... Is that even a con? It's pretty damn good. Took some 20mp shots the other day when I went to the hospital and they are beautiful.
And not providing an AOSP based ROM is distant. Would I prefer it? Yes. But the only three OEMs I've seen doing this are Sony, OnePlus, and Google (obviously). Their AI wouldn't be as prominent either. I sort of get what you're saying though. Nothing a custom ROM can't fix
BUT. None of those issues are actual problems for me. I have a really hard time critiquing the device. Only thing I wish it had is waterproofing and US bands.... Best device I've ever had to date.
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It does have US bands. It supports I believe 4 LTE bands on ATT which is who I have its just that you'll have to call their device management department to get the correct APN settings to get any data. I also have had to resort to using allo to send and receive MMS.
It supports only one band I think of t-mobile but you still can get 2 or 3g speeds.
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no image stabilization and at least for now a lack of root.
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It has root I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted earlier today using the FH mate tool easily.
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saifi2649 said:
Lack of carrier aggregation is the only reason stopping me to buy Honor View 10. I tried to find the info everywhere even Honor India support is clueless if CA is available in this device
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Carrier aggregation is supported I see it as an option on mine and its on. This is in the US however.
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It does have US bands. It supports I believe 4 LTE bands on ATT which is who I have its just that you'll have to call their device management department to get the correct APN settings to get any data. I also have had to resort to using allo to send and receive MMS.
It supports only one band I think of t-mobile but you still can get 2 or 3g speeds.
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It has root I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted earlier today using the FH mate tool easily.
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Carrier aggregation is supported I see it as an option on mine and its on. This is in the US however.
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Yeah. I know. But right now I pay $20 a month to TM for unlimited data with our plan. To pay AT&T $80 a month doesn't make sense to me. It would literally be cheaper to go with a Pixel 2 XL with everything maxed out at that point through the Google store if it's looked at that way. Nonetheless though, I love the phone.
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Yeah. I know. But right now I pay $20 a month to TM for unlimited data with our plan. To pay AT&T $80 a month doesn't make sense to me. It would literally be cheaper to go with a Pixel 2 XL with everything maxed out at that point through the Google store if it's looked at that way. Nonetheless though, I love the phone.
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Damn how do you only pay that much?! I definitely love this phone. I know that later they're supposed to release it in the US and I've seen one seller on ebay that is based in the US so maybe thats the version you could always see.
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Damn how do you only pay that much?! I definitely love this phone. I know that later they're supposed to release it in the US and I've seen one seller on ebay that is based in the US so maybe thats the version you could always see.
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5 of us share a plan. My brother, my sister in law, her mother, her cousin, and me. 10gb with turnover into the following month... So kind of unlimited. I don't ever usually pass 4gb lol. Data saver and everything are always enabled and I don't stream crap except for music through Spotify on the bus and when I walk.
I'm going to see if someone couldn't upload the US firmware so I can see whether or not it is a hard block. If it is, I may just forget it and get a Pixel 2 XL and put monthly payments down for that. It would be disappointing but there isn't much I can do
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5 of us share a plan. My brother, my sister in law, her mother, her cousin, and me. 10gb with turnover into the following month... So kind of unlimited. I don't ever usually pass 4gb lol. Data saver and everything are always enabled and I don't stream crap except for music through Spotify on the bus and when I walk.
I'm going to see if someone couldn't upload the US firmware so I can see whether or not it is a hard block. If it is, I may just forget it and get a Pixel 2 XL and put monthly payments down for that. It would be disappointing but there isn't much I can do
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If you do find US firmware definitely post it up I'd definitely use it
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It does have US bands. It supports I believe 4 LTE bands on ATT which is who I have its just that you'll have to call their device management department to get the correct APN settings to get any data. I also have had to resort to using allo to send and receive MMS.
It supports only one band I think of t-mobile but you still can get 2 or 3g speeds.
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It has root I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted earlier today using the FH mate tool easily.
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Carrier aggregation is supported I see it as an option on mine and its on. This is in the US however.
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At this point, the V10 for the US/North America is vaporware. It was supposed to have launched on 8 January along side the International and Indian versions. That was the statement made at the 5 December London event. Then the V10 page disappeared from Honor's US website and suddenly the US/North American version launch date and price weren't going to be made available. Very recently, the V10 page reloaded on Honor's US site, but it doesn't contain any specs about the 4G FDD bands that will be supported. It should be more than AT&T's bands since it should be able to support Canada (Mexico pretty much uses AT&T bands)--T Mobile's established FDD bands should be supported, but Samsung will probably remain the only brand including radios for T Mobile's new spectrum in phones this year. Honor needs to post all the 4G FDD bands in the specs, it's not acceptable to only say FDD--that gives absolutely no information on carrier support.
I checked I had T-Mobile and at least the international one only supports 2 or 3g with them. It supports all of their noon or most of their non LTE bands but only one of the LTE which means no LTE. I finally got everything working on att including MMS. just took a few days att recognized the device as essentially a flip phone and only capable of 2g. After talking to the a few times they simply changed some settings on their end and I'm more than happy with it. I wouldn't even wait for the US version assuming it ever comes.
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If you do find US firmware definitely post it up I'd definitely use it
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The US/North American V10 hasn't been released, no release date or pricing information has been announced. Everything was pushed back from a stated 8 January launch without explanation. It looks like the earliest that they may begin shipping the US/North American version is Q2--we're almost to February. If it doesn't ship by Q2, then I wouldn't expect to see a US/ North American version at all.
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I checked I had T-Mobile and at least the international one only supports 2 or 3g with them. It supports all of their noon or most of their non LTE bands but only one of the LTE which means no LTE. I finally got everything working on att including MMS. just took a few days att recognized the device as essentially a flip phone and only capable of 2g. After talking to the a few times they simply changed some settings on their end and I'm more than happy with it. I wouldn't even wait for the US version assuming it ever comes.
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The vast majority of AT&T's LTE markets still primarily use FDD Band 17, which isn't supported by the International version. You're fortunate that you're in a metropolitan area that supports a lesser used band that's included in the International version. My region and my roaming areas are all FDD Band 17 only. You may have issues when you have to roam in other areas of the US.
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I checked I had T-Mobile and at least the international one only supports 2 or 3g with them. It supports all of their noon or most of their non LTE bands but only one of the LTE which means no LTE. I finally got everything working on att including MMS. just took a few days att recognized the device as essentially a flip phone and only capable of 2g. After talking to the a few times they simply changed some settings on their end and I'm more than happy with it. I wouldn't even wait for the US version assuming it ever comes.
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The vast majority of AT&T's LTE markets still primarily use FDD Band 17, which isn't supported by the International version. You're fortunate that you're in a metropolitan area that supports a lesser used band that's included in the International version. My region and my roaming areas are all FDD Band 17 only. You may have issues when you have to roam in other areas of the US.
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I checked I had T-Mobile and at least the international one only supports 2 or 3g with them. It supports all of their noon or most of their non LTE bands but only one of the LTE which means no LTE. I finally got everything working on att including MMS. just took a few days att recognized the device as essentially a flip phone and only capable of 2g. After talking to the a few times they simply changed some settings on their end and I'm more than happy with it. I wouldn't even wait for the US verssion assuming it ever comes.
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There's only one AT&T 4G FDD band supported by the International version of the V10--FDD Band 5, which isn't supported on the vast majority of AT&T's LTE network. Keep your eye on the network status of your phone. You may find as you travel around your city that you fall back to 3G data at times as many towers in metro areas that have some support for FDD Bands 2,4 or 5 remain FDD Band 17 only. Here's a list of US/Canadian carrier cellular bands. https://www.signalbooster.com/pages/what-are-the-cellular-frequencies-of-cell-phone-carriers-in-usa-canada
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There's only one AT&T 4G FDD band supported by the International version of the V10--FDD Band 5, which isn't supported on the vast majority of AT&T's LTE network. Keep your eye on the network status of your phone. You may find as you travel around your city that you fall back to 3G data at times as many towers in metro areas that have some support for FDD Bands 2,4 or 5 remain FDD Band 17 only. Here's a list of US/Canadian carrier cellular bands. https://www.signalbooster.com/pages...quencies-of-cell-phone-carriers-in-usa-canada
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I've been I'm Dallas, Arlington and fort Worth and cities in between and never dropped below hspa+. It also supports band 2,4,12 and 17 which are all LTE. The only issue I had was that because the phone is unrecognized it was automatically put in as a 2g device. I've traveled 60 some miles in a few directions each and almost always had LTE. It was partially trying to get the correct settings on the phone and then on their end.
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I've been I'm Dallas, Arlington and fort Worth and cities in between and never dropped below hspa+. It also supports band 2,4,12 and 17 which are all LTE. The only issue I had was that because the phone is unrecognized it was automatically put in as a 2g device. I've traveled 60 some miles in a few directions each and almost always had LTE. It was partially trying to get the correct settings on the phone and then on their end.
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The International/Global version of the V10 supports 4G FDD bands 1/3/5/8/38/39/41. https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/ARa6n/huawei-honor-view-10-global-dual-sim-td-lte-bkl-l09-128gb You are falling off LTE because only FDD band 5 is supported by AT&T, and then only in some metropolitan areas, and then only in areas of those cities with congestion issues. (Technically, HSPA+ is 3G, granted souped up 3G speeds but not with data rates as high as 4G.)
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Carrier aggregation is supported I see it as an option on mine and its on. This is in the US however.
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Lack of carrier aggregation is the only reason stopping me to buy Honor View 10. I tried to find the info everywhere even Honor India support is clueless if CA is available in this device
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Even I'm still clueless despite me asking in various threads, no honor guys have data. I am sure in Indian market its already selling in big nos. No answer usually means no native CA support on 3/5/40 bands!
Thanks for your region specific inputs on LTE @mke1973 @whymista @CertifiedBlyndGuy
This is actually a huge issue, just like OP3 got LTE+ CA support in US/EU bands it never got CA on 3/5/40 Indian bands despite selling in huge no. Having such region-specific models hampers long-term dev, which Honor should workaround with better designed universal bands-supported phones like MI MIX2.
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At this point, the V10 for the US/North America is vaporware. It was supposed to have launched on 8 January along side the International and Indian versions. That was the statement made at the 5 December London event. Then the V10 page disappeared from Honor's US website and suddenly the US/North American version launch date and price weren't going to be made available. Very recently, the V10 page reloaded on Honor's US site, but it doesn't contain any specs about the 4G FDD bands that will be supported. It should be more than AT&T's bands since it should be able to support Canada (Mexico pretty much uses AT&T bands)--T Mobile's established FDD bands should be supported, but Samsung will probably remain the only brand including radios for T Mobile's new spectrum in phones this year. Honor needs to post all the 4G FDD bands in the specs, it's not acceptable to only say FDD--that gives absolutely no information on carrier support.
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It's not vaporware if it's already been released somewhere -- that refers to prototype hardware/software that never sees the light of day. Anyways, what I read from the official statement was that the "International" release (UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain and India) was January 8th, with the US launch to be announced at a later time. I think some people saw "international" and immediately thought it included the US.
Hi folks,
I'm looking at BestBuy and they are offering both an unlocked version, and a cheaper Verizon version (monthly payment plan which equates to a ~$30 discount). At face value, makes sense to me.
However, my understanding was that FCC rules that all LTE devices would be SIM unlocked. So can somebody please explain to me what the difference is between these two versions? Is the Verizon variant actually locked?
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Hi folks,
I'm looking at BestBuy and they are offering both an unlocked version, and a cheaper Verizon version (monthly payment plan which equates to a ~$30 discount). At face value, makes sense to me.
However, my understanding was that FCC rules that all LTE devices would be SIM unlocked. So can somebody please explain to me what the difference is between these two versions? Is the Verizon variant actually locked?
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I've had Verizon phones for the past 2 years and they were both unlocked outta the box even though I purchased them through the payment plan. I passed them on to my brother whose on AT&T and they worked flawlessly. from my experience, all verizon phones are unlocked
I've inspected the Verizon phone in the store, and it literally is an unlocked s9 plus, same model and all.
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I know that Verizon and Sprint (or better said Sprint iPhones) are always unlocked.
So, if you have the chance of walking into bestbuy, just take a GSM sim with you and insert it into a Verizon S9+. if it picks up signal and you can place a call, than it's unlocked.
Has anyone been able to confirm? The first Verizon shipments have started to arrive by now. Rumor was this was the first phone they were going to lock, they announced that they were going to start in January.
I've picked up an unlocked S9+ from Samsung and I'm on the Verizon network. Somethings I'm starting to notice... I don't have the "Advanced calling" options, so I can't do WiFi calling. I also don't have OEM Unlock in my developer options. I'd deal with Verizon's bloat for WiFi calling...
Phluffy said:
I've picked up an unlocked S9+ from Samsung and I'm on the Verizon network. Somethings I'm starting to notice... I don't have the "Advanced calling" options, so I can't do WiFi calling. I also don't have OEM Unlock in my developer options. I'd deal with Verizon's bloat for WiFi calling...
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I've noticed the same I just put my Verizon sim into my unlocked so plus, no wifi calling for me it's not a issue and I've noticed that all the Verizon bloat I was dealing with on my s9 plus is gone.
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However, my understanding was that FCC rules that all LTE devices would be SIM unlocked. So can somebody please explain to me what the difference is between these two versions? Is the Verizon variant actually locked?
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Oh, how wrong you are. ATT, T-Mobile, and Sprint all lock their LTE devices. Verizon had been the one exception due to a deal with the FCC when they acquired some 4G bandwidth. However, now that the head of the FCC is a muppet/puppet/ahole, Verizon has decided that they no longer need to obey that agreement and are locking their phones. Not 100% sure if they started with the S9 series or not.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...es-to-its-network-to-prevent-armed-robberies/
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Oh, how wrong you are. ATT, T-Mobile, and Sprint all lock their LTE devices. Verizon had been the one exception due to a deal with the FCC when they acquired some 4G bandwidth. However, now that the head of the FCC is a muppet/puppet/ahole, Verizon has decided that they no longer need to obey that agreement and are locking their phones. Not 100% sure if they started with the S9 series or not.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...es-to-its-network-to-prevent-armed-robberies/
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This was my understanding, Verizon is going to start locking their devices again. Hopefully not with the S9....
My understanding is:
The phones are the same model. Verizon loads their devices with bloatware and they no longer sale their phones unlocked, unless it's paid in full. You can still call customer service and get an unlocking code if you want. Verizon will run specials on their devices, specially if you buy it making monthly payments on it, because this means you're their customer.
Unlocked Galaxy phones are the phones without bloatware, just as Samsung wanted them to be. You'll get updates from Samsung instead of from a carrier. Those are the differences.
Phluffy said:
I've picked up an unlocked S9+ from Samsung and I'm on the Verizon network. Somethings I'm starting to notice... I don't have the "Advanced calling" options, so I can't do WiFi calling. I also don't have OEM Unlock in my developer options. I'd deal with Verizon's bloat for WiFi calling...
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Try installing "Carrier Services" from the Play store.
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I've picked up an unlocked S9+ from Samsung and I'm on the Verizon network. Somethings I'm starting to notice... I don't have the "Advanced calling" options, so I can't do WiFi calling. I also don't have OEM Unlock in my developer options. I'd deal with Verizon's bloat for WiFi calling...
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Not to mention video calling
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Try installing "Carrier Services" from the Play store.
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That's the first time I've seen this recommendation. What does it do? Does it enable Verizon wifi calling and video chat?
Hi all, I purchased an unlocked S9+ from Samsung yesterday and was hoping to get some answers about this used with Verizon.
I'm trying to avoid that stupid "activation" fee so I went with unlocked. When I went to place an order, there's an option to have it activated through either Verizon, AT&T, but and TMobile (or Sprint, don't remember). I called Samsung and asked if I choose to skip the activation from their site, pop the SIM card from a phone (S7 Edge) with an existing line into it, will there be an activation fee? They told me to call Verizon about it.
So I chat with a Verizon rep online and they told me if I wanted to bring my own phone, there will be a new line fee and an activation fee. A new line fee even though I'm just replacing a phone on an existing line of mine??
So what I'm asking here is, have any of you guys who purchased the unlocked model and had it activated on Verizon, was there some stupid fees that followed?
Thanks
I have a Verizon S9+ running on T-Mobile. While still on the Verizon firmware, the T-Mobile card would pick up the signal, but wouldn't make or take any calls, and the phone kept telling me that I have a non-Verizon SIM card inserted. Flashed unlocked firmware and TMB USERDATA and the phone works great including WiFi Calling.
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I've picked up an unlocked S9+ from Samsung and I'm on the Verizon network. Somethings I'm starting to notice... I don't have the "Advanced calling" options, so I can't do WiFi calling. I also don't have OEM Unlock in my developer options. I'd deal with Verizon's bloat for WiFi calling...
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jaszek said:
I have a Verizon S9+ running on T-Mobile. While still on the Verizon firmware, the T-Mobile card would pick up the signal, but wouldn't make or take any calls, and the phone kept telling me that I have a non-Verizon SIM card inserted. Flashed unlocked firmware and TMB USERDATA and the phone works great including WiFi Calling.
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Yeah but what are the chances of getting a Verizon rom and being able to flash it on a phone thats been out 3 days?
GigaSPX said:
Hi all, I purchased an unlocked S9+ from Samsung yesterday and was hoping to get some answers about this used with Verizon.
I'm trying to avoid that stupid "activation" fee so I went with unlocked. When I went to place an order, there's an option to have it activated through either Verizon, AT&T, but and TMobile (or Sprint, don't remember). I called Samsung and asked if I choose to skip the activation from their site, pop the SIM card from a phone (S7 Edge) with an existing line into it, will there be an activation fee? They told me to call Verizon about it.
So I chat with a Verizon rep online and they told me if I wanted to bring my own phone, there will be a new line fee and an activation fee. A new line fee even though I'm just replacing a phone on an existing line of mine??
So what I'm asking here is, have any of you guys who purchased the unlocked model and had it activated on Verizon, was there some stupid fees that followed?
Thanks
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I work for a certain Authorized Retailer and what that person is bull****. All you have to do is pop your sim card into the other phone and good to go, as long as your previous device was an android phone.
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Yeah but what are the chances of getting a Verizon rom and being able to flash it on a phone thats been out 3 days?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/how-to/g965u-g965u1-firmware-links-t3763487
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Hello
Just received a email from AT&T, claiming that none of my Sony phones will be compatible with AT&T wireless network on 2022. This is what their page says
"To bring you faster speeds and new features, we have to evolve America’s best and also fastest network. One change we’re making is phasing out our 3G network by February 2022. Once we do, 3G devices and 4G wireless devices that don’t support HD Voice will no longer work on our network."
Their compatibility list (https://www.att.com/ecms/dam/att/consumer/help/pdf/Devices-Working-on-ATT-Network.pdf) does not include any Sony phones at all.
Does anyone know if this is actually true? One the one hand, I can see that my phones are not on their compatibility list. On the other hand, AT&T appears to be completely unaware of Sony's existence.
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Hello
Just received a email from AT&T, claiming that none of my Sony phones will be compatible with AT&T wireless network on 2022. This is what their page says
"To bring you faster speeds and new features, we have to evolve America’s best and also fastest network. One change we’re making is phasing out our 3G network by February 2022. Once we do, 3G devices and 4G wireless devices that don’t support HD Voice will no longer work on our network."
Their compatibility list (https://www.att.com/ecms/dam/att/consumer/help/pdf/Devices-Working-on-ATT-Network.pdf) does not include any Sony phones at all.
Does anyone know if this is actually true? One the one hand, I can see that my phones are not on their compatibility list. On the other hand, AT&T appears to be completely unaware of Sony's existence.
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What model is your Xperia 1 (should be J8xxx or J9xxx)?
Do you get VoLTE with AT&T right now?
I"m on AT&T, and I don't have VOLTE from them here in Texas. Our X1 is not supported according to list provided by AT&T, however no Sony phones are. I haven't received the email...at least not yet for mine. Of course our phones are able to use VOLTE services but AT&T doesn't provision for them. There are some discussions about this going on on Reddit too, some people are reaching out to file complaints to the FCC.
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What model is your Xperia 1 (should be J8xxx or J9xxx)?
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Mine is a dual-SIM model J9110.
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Do you get VoLTE with AT&T right now?
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Haven't been paying attention... but apparently not.
I have the J8xxx USA model.
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Mine is a dual-SIM model J9110.
Haven't been paying attention... but apparently not.
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The phone will probably still be able to use data, but no calls will be possible since the phone doesn't support VoLTE on AT&T.
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The phone will probably still be able to use data, but no calls will be possible since the phone doesn't support VoLTE on AT&T.
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The Phone supports it just fine. AT&T won't allow their servers to support the phone. They say its because they can't certify that it's safe to use for VoLTE and that means 911 calls could fail but it's really because they are pushing people to get AT&T branded phones and stay on a phone payment plan.