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Hello,
I've had my GS II for about a week, and the battery life has been pretty stellar, except for days where I work at the office. For some reason, there, the battery drains at about 2x the rate than in other areas. A very similar thing happened with my Captivate, but the battery lasts longer with the GS II.
However, today, at around 1PM, my phone started heating up so that it was hot to the touch, and the battery drained 60% in about 1.5 hours. Something went terribly wrong. And even plugged in, it was draining faster than it could charge!
How can I find out what happened? I don't want this to happen again.
The only thing I did was listen to a podcast with BeyondPod, but I do that every day at work over lunch. So, nothing new in my utilization.
Any ideas appreciated!
Thanks,
Jon
(AT&T SG II, stock, unrooted)
May be the GPS - same experience here.
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Thanks, but GPS was not on. Neither was WiFi. Just Bluetooth. It's the same settings I have every day at work, because Tasker sets my settings automatically based on cell tower location.
What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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kletiz said:
What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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JonDeutsch said:
If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
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Edit: Just noticed he responded just before me. Lol. You can ignore my post.
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I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Was there anything else in your battery usage stats?
What about wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats?
Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
Had the same thing happen to me yesterday. I am stock rooted.
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ljwnow said:
Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
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Unfortunately, AOS often falsely reports high. Sometimes high AOS usage is fine, sometimes it's not.
I've gotten some of my best battery life with AOS at 60%.
Can't tell what happened to you without some statistics.
karth500 said:
I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Yeah, this sounds very similar to what happened to me, but with stock ROM.
Two follow-on questions:
1. If it's ROM-independent, then could it be something in the hardware that's short-circuiting? Like... the cellular chipset, or perhaps the modem firmware?
2. Can you explain what about CM 7.1 is so superior to the stock rom, which I'm finding pretty fantastic at the moment?
Thanks,
Jon
kletiz said:
No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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Unfortunately, I don't think I can go back in history, can I? It's a new day, with a new charge... and I'm imagining that the battery meters reflect today's activity, not yesterday's disaster...
Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
i never had battery drain but once in a while I do notice my phone gets hot on the back cover in between the SGS logo and the camera while I'm using it. If I put it down for a bit, it cools off. I figured it was just hot from use and I never thought anything more of it.
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Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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What make you think GS2 is any better than other Android phones in this regard? Anyone can make a mistake or two in programming and it is impossible to write bug free code.
Remember, latest Android Gingerbread OS is 2.3.7 and we are at 2.3.4. There are a lot of bug fixes (and new bugs) in each incremental release from Google alone. On top of that you have Samsung's customization code and various apps you installed.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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You still need to convince them, trust me.
Anyways..here is what I was getting at last night.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-os-what-is-it/
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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It does happen to iPhones for sure. We switched from blackberry devices to the iPhone, at work, three months ago. We had five different devices experience similar heat and battery issues. The cause is typically from apps or services that sync with online data.
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Random reboots
WiFi acting up
Connection hiccups
Browser and some other apps randomly close
Battery sucks
Wondering if htc has confirmed a update to fix all this?
Any ideas?
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I haven't seen any of these issues, maybe you have a bad phone
I'm living on a yellow submarine
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Random reboots
WiFi acting up Don't have this problem
Connection hiccups [Yeah a new radio would be nice
Browser and some other apps randomly close Don't have this problem
Battery sucks Battery is good for me.
Wondering if htc has confirmed a update to fix all this?
Any ideas?
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From what my friend told me (vzw business rep) less than 10% of the Rezounds have these problems and some of the problems are caused by current problems in the 4G network.
No software release by htc at this time.
I would get the phone replaced at a vzw store where you can play with the phone to see if it works like it should.
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Haven't had a random reboot yet.
No WiFi problems.
What do you mean by "connection hiccups"? I can't think of anything that would come close to what I think you mean.
No random apps closing.
Battery is in line with other HTC phones. Sense is just a battery hog. Wait for S-OFF and custom kernels and you'll see leaps and bounds of battery improvements.
I have none of the reported issues...
I am shocked at how long the battery lasts... 20% better than my old TB after ROMS and Kernel tweaks.
I agree, I get battery life than my TBolt did and have not had any of the problems listed above.
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I haven't had any of these issues either. Have you tried a factory reset yet? It's relatively easy to do and could possibly help if you are having issues with apps and random reboots.
If that doesn't help definitely return it and get a new one. Hopefully the issues will not continue.
The battery life is going to depend on each person's location.
I got 30 hours when I was at home over the weekend, and 8 hours when I spent the day at the university. The reason being signal strength. I didn't use it any more than I did at home.
Also if you are in a low signal area the phone strains to get the data signal resulting in battery overheating and browser problems.
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no random reboot issues here... the GF's tbolt is another story though that thing is awful.
Radio would be nice - i frequently go in and out of 4g areas and the radio does have a tough time picking which one to use.
The rest of the issues noted I haven't seen at all!
for me:
video playback occassionally goes out of sync
while headphones/aux is plugged in and nothing is playing(or at low volume) there's this static/hiss sound
phone gets really hot often(and when it goes over 100F the battery depletes quicker
screen is incredibly sensitive and keeps thinking I'm tapping on things that I'm not
have weird random browser lag(regardless of browser) where ill select something and nothing will happen... then after like 10 - 15sec, the new page suddenly pops up
those are my 'regular' issues. I've only had the phone reboot by itself once & the battery was super hot then. also, I will get FC's here & there but its not common.
I still blame sense/bloatware
[EDIT]: I forgot to mention that sometimes if I go to a 3G area, it will not go back to 4G on its own. ill have to manually turn the radio off/on, then it kicks back into 4G
XOAngio said:
Random reboots
WiFi acting up
Connection hiccups
Browser and some other apps randomly close
Battery sucks
Wondering if htc has confirmed a update to fix all this?
Any ideas?
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i was actually impressed with the radio on the phone, maybe thats because i updated from a samsung fascinate which fascinated me as to how bad the radio was, excuse the bad pun
guys, open tickets with HTC and complain about your problems. t hat's the ONLY way they're gonna find out, besides seeing a high exchange rate! let's tell them EXACTLY what's wrong! my open ticket is about the crappy mic recording in the video mode, and i also brought up light leak and the background noise with music. they've escalated me to another hihger support team whos gonna contact me wtihin a week
Ditto on being impressed with the radio. I get -75db in the same metal building in which my hTC EVO 4G could muster -90db at best. The external antenna on the battery cover really do the trick.
Never had a random reboot or force close.
No problems with WiFi (except that LTE is so fast I never want to connect to my home internet!)
I get 8-10 hrs from the batt, on Performance mode, connected to 4G and heavy use. Picked up a spare battery to take me through the evening after I swap it after work.
My stock browser has always crashed occasionally, my incredible did it when it was stock and rooted and my rezound does it exactly the same way, its a software problem. I have had 2 random reboots so far not enough to complain. Other than that great, love this phone.
The only problem I have had is my phone not connecting to 4g but I think juice defender was the problem.
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I've had mine since the 14th and not a single problem...I'm very impressed so far!!!
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awmobjects said:
I've had mine since the 14th and not a single problem...I'm very impressed so far!!!
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Same here! !
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What someone with some time needs to do is get a digital petition up on the forums with phones having these problems ( Inc, TBolt, Rezound etc.) and try to get several thousand signatures to send to HTC because VZW doesn't care. That might get htc to do a software fix.
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I have been wandering around XDA now for about the last 3 months looking for my problem and no one seems to have the same issue...
When my battery gets down to 20%, it immediately jumps to 15%.
I'm not new to this, I've tried several ROMs and several kernels. I got the firmware patch hoping that the issues would go away. I've had random battery ups and downs.. sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, but never consistent and acceptable. When I say "good" I'm referring to about 6 hours of very light use.
If anyone could point me in the right direction, I would be grateful.
Currently running CleanROM DE with Firmware patch.
sanders858 said:
I have been wandering around XDA now for about the last 3 months looking for my problem and no one seems to have the same issue...
When my battery gets down to 20%, it immediately jumps to 15%.
I'm not new to this, I've tried several ROMs and several kernels. I got the firmware patch hoping that the issues would go away. I've had random battery ups and downs.. sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, but never consistent and acceptable. When I say "good" I'm referring to about 6 hours of very light use.
If anyone could point me in the right direction, I would be grateful.
Currently running CleanROM DE with Firmware patch.
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When I had had my first rezound I had the same problem it seemed to drop my battery from 30% to 20% percent in like 2 minutes I just sent mine in and got a replacement!
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Bad battery? Check your battery, is it a 3.8v or 3.7v?
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happens all the time to me, funny because we just brought it up in rezrom thread today.
i always go from 25% to 14% within a single second..it's a perfect vertical drop in my stats. it's pretty bad, and it started happening ever since i installed the leaked firmware. others have said they've had it since buying it stock,though.
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Bad battery? Check your battery, is it a 3.8v or 3.7v?
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I have a 3.7... But this is my second battery, the first one was a 3.8...
It did not do it when I bought it stock, or even when I started rooting it. It started after about the 3rd ROM I put on it, and I've never been able to get rid of it. It does get hot, but its not really out of the norm.. (most dual core phones with 4g are going to get warm, 4g takes an extreme amount of energy to use)
I can't believe this hasn't been brought up earlier... I was only hesitant to bring it up in development because I didn't want to be accused of not using the search button.
sanders858 said:
I have a 3.7... But this is my second battery, the first one was a 3.8...
It did not do it when I bought it stock, or even when I started rooting it. It started after about the 3rd ROM I put on it, and I've never been able to get rid of it. It does get hot, but its not really out of the norm.. (most dual core phones with 4g are going to get warm, 4g takes an extreme amount of energy to use)
I can't believe this hasn't been brought up earlier... I was only hesitant to bring it up in development because I didn't want to be accused of not using the search button.
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It has been brought up, but people said that it's a bad battery. I'm not convinced it's battery, I think there's something more going on. It happened to me, stock, out of the box, and with multiple batteries.
Here's a thread I posted about this a few months ago-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514134
Run the battery down until the device powers down on its own, this will not hurt the device or battery. Keep the phone off and let the battery charge up fully. Do this a few times....
I have not had this issue myself with the rezound. On previous devices I did the above and it seemed to work out the issues
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tekhna said:
It has been brought up, but people said that it's a bad battery. I'm not convinced it's battery, I think there's something more going on. It happened to me, stock, out of the box, and with multiple batteries.
Here's a thread I posted about this a few months ago-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514134
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Just read your post... you're right... not much help there. And I agree, I can't see a brand new battery that's never been used or re-calibrated showing the same "symtoms" as the old battery. It has got to be something not hardware related. All my brothers have Rezounds and I actually let one of them use my battery and it didn't do it in their phone, so a bad battery is out of the question I think.
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All my brothers have Rezounds and I actually let one of them use my battery and it didn't do it in their phone, so a bad battery is out of the question I think.
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What is different about those rezounds from yours? Unlocked, rooted, stock, pure stock, launcher, apk/apps? All of these or one could have a factor.....
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jayochs said:
happens all the time to me, funny because we just brought it up in rezrom thread today.
i always go from 25% to 14% within a single second..it's a perfect vertical drop in my stats. it's pretty bad, and it started happening ever since i installed the leaked firmware. others have said they've had it since buying it stock,though.
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That's almost exactly what mine is doing, just with different numbers. What are you running?
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What is different about those rezounds from yours? Unlocked, rooted, stock, pure stock, launcher, apk/apps? All of these or have a factor.....
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The one I swapped with has the same exact ROM as I do as well as the same kernel. The only difference may be his recovery. I think he has one version newer Amon Ra than I do... but I've been using the same recovery since the beginning, and it started doing this well after flashing that recovery.
cdexsw said:
Run the battery down until the device powers down on its own, this will not hurt the device or battery. Keep the phone off and let the battery charge up fully. Do this a few times....
I have not had this issue myself with the rezound. On previous devices I did the above and it seemed to work out the issues
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I've done that with other ROMs in the past for this same issue, but not with this new ROM and firmware. I'll be sure to give that a try tomorrow when it dies... it just got a full charge. Thanks for reminding me of that little trick.
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The one I swapped with has the same exact ROM as I do as well as the same kernel. The only difference may be his recovery. I think he has one version newer Amon Ra than I do... but I've been using the same recovery since the beginning, and it started doing this well after flashing that recovery.
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are you using 4g/3g when this occurs?, WiFi, which band?, powersave mode?, basically all the settings.....
Does it do this at 100% stock, not even signing in to your google account or updating apps.
Have you tried a different sdcard? Be surprised how this little piece if plastic can crush a system.
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What is different about those rezounds from yours? Unlocked, rooted, stock, pure stock, launcher, apk/apps? All of these or one could have a factor.....
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It happened to me stock, out of the box. It happened to me stock rooted debloated, happened to me unlocked s-on, happened to me s-off. Happened to me on GB firmware. Happened to me ICS firmware. It's obviously a problem bigger an an apk or an app.
cdexsw said:
are you using 4g/3g when this occurs?, WiFi, which band?, powersave mode?, basically all the settings.....
Does it do this at 100% stock, not even signing in to your google account or updating apps.
Have you tried a different sdcard? Be surprised how this little piece if plastic can crush a system.
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using primarily 4g, no wifi (N when I do), no powersave mode. Thinking back, it started with the first ROM that had powersave mode. Since then I've always disabled that feature hoping it would go away, all with no luck.
It never did it when it was stock, I certainly don't want to revert it back to check now. Haven't checked when initially setting up after a flash, so I don't know if Google affects it at all.
Haven't tried a different SD card. Though I may take it out and see how it behaves after I do a dead charge on it.
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using primarily 4g, no wifi (N when I do), no powersave mode. Thinking back, it started with the first ROM that had powersave mode. Since then I've always disabled that feature hoping it would go away, all with no luck.
It never did it when it was stock, I certainly don't want to revert it back to check now. Haven't checked when initially setting up after a flash, so I don't know if Google affects it at all.
Haven't tried a different SD card. Though I may take it out and see how it behaves after I do a dead charge on it.
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It's not your SD card. Your SD card has nothing to do with your battery jumping, I promise you. If I had to guess, I'd say it's something with the kernel, but what do I know. It should be more wide-spread if it's the kernel.
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It happened to me stock, out of the box. It happened to me stock rooted debloated, happened to me unlocked s-on, happened to me s-off. Happened to me on GB firmware. Happened to me ICS firmware. It's obviously a problem bigger an an apk or an app.
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I agree. That makes me wonder if it has anything to do with the SIM card.
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I agree. That makes me wonder if it has anything to do with the SIM card.
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Hmm. I have an extra, unused SIM in its package here, I'll pop it in tomorrow and run my battery down, see if it happens. Not sure why it'd be the SIM though.. got a theory?
Simcards do go bad, as do sdcards.
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Simcards do go bad, as do sdcards.
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For sure, but why would that cause either inaccurate battery readings, or massive power drain? It's actually not really clear which one it is, of those options, but it'd have to be absolutely enormous power drain to go from 25%-14% in a short period. So how would a SIM or SD card cause inaccurate battery readings? I ask because I have no idea, not being snarky.
Is anyone else getting Android OS around 50-60% battery use?
I have tried every ROM included going back to stock. I have ran the phone with nothing but Stock and no apps installed for a day and still get the same drain so I can only assume its a kernel issue.
I am not familiar with LG products in the slightest, but I had a yellow screen of death the other day...something I have never seen in my years with samsung android products. Anyone have any idea what this is maybe it is pointing to a hardware issue?
LG made a great phone, but I don't think I will keep it much longer. Locked boot loaders, no sources, and history of terrible updates have me regretting purchasing this phone. I tried my hand at building a working jb release when I first got the phone and it is going to take a skill set I do not have and I hate waiting on a company to do what they've never done in the past..
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Is anyone else getting Android OS around 50-60% battery use?
I have tried every ROM included going back to stock. I have ran the phone with nothing but Stock and no apps installed for a day and still get the same drain so I can only assume its a kernel issue.
I am not familiar with LG products in the slightest, but I had a yellow screen of death the other day...something I have never seen in my years with samsung android products. Anyone have any idea what this is maybe it is pointing to a hardware issue?
LG made a great phone, but I don't think I will keep it much longer. Locked boot loaders, no sources, and history of terrible updates have me regretting purchasing this phone. I tried my hand at building a working jb release when I first got the phone and it is going to take a skill set I do not have and I hate waiting on a company to do what they've never done in the past..
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Easy, brother. I have only had one of my apps/utilities run higher than AndroidOS ever on this phone; however, that said, I think there is a problem with the way it's being calculated. I'm getting really good battery life with good sleep and still AndroidOS shows the highest by far. I know that's abnormal for it to be so high and still get good battery life, but it is what it is.
Edit: you've installed the fast dormancy toggle, right? As for the yellow screen, I've seen it once in my two months with the phone, just rebooted and carried on. Forgot what they said it was...but it is here in this forum somewhere.
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I was just about to post something similar. Andriod OS being high kind of makes sense if nothing else is using the battery, although you would expect that number to fall significantly with increased screen on time and heavy app usage, which it doesn't ever seem to.
I've been having horrible battery drain lately. I'm currently traveling for business, and just use my OG for web surfing and stuff when I'm in my hotel. I leave the phone in airplane mode, with WiFi on. About two weeks ago, when I was on The Base 0.4 in that same configuration, my battery would drain maybe 1% an hour while I was sleeping.
Recently I've been on The Base 0.7.3, and my battery drains over 5% an hour while I'm sleeping. This means no screen on, no apps running, and even turning WiFi off! How does it use that much battery when it's not doing anything? Now, I'm not entirely sure what kernel I'm running. The first time I installed The Base 0.7.3 I used sk8's kernel. After getting poor battery life, I reflashed 0.7 and 0.7.3, this time choosing the freegee kernel. I'm not actually sure if the kernel changed though.
Anyway, I think I'll post again tomorrow with some screenshots from Better Battery Stats+ and CPU Spy.
I'm wondering if this recent botched update had the battery fixes we need. Hopefully they'll re-release it soon.
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Easy, brother. I have only had one of my apps/utilities run higher than AndroidOS ever on this phone; however, that said, I think there is a problem with the way it's being calculated. I'm getting really good battery life with good sleep and still AndroidOS shows the highest by far. I know that's abnormal for it to be so high and still get good battery life, but it is what it is.
Edit: you've installed the fast dormancy toggle, right? As for the yellow screen, I've seen it once in my two months with the phone, just rebooted and carried on. Forgot what they said it was...but it is here in this forum somewhere.
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Yea I've tried fdt but I think it has to be kernel related drain issues
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Digil said:
I was just about to post something similar. Andriod OS being high kind of makes sense if nothing else is using the battery, although you would expect that number to fall significantly with increased screen on time and heavy app usage, which it doesn't ever seem to.
I've been having horrible battery drain lately. I'm currently traveling for business, and just use my OG for web surfing and stuff when I'm in my hotel. I leave the phone in airplane mode, with WiFi on. About two weeks ago, when I was on The Base 0.4 in that same configuration, my battery would drain maybe 1% an hour while I was sleeping.
Recently I've been on The Base 0.7.3, and my battery drains over 5% an hour while I'm sleeping. This means no screen on, no apps running, and even turning WiFi off! How does it use that much battery when it's not doing anything? Now, I'm not entirely sure what kernel I'm running. The first time I installed The Base 0.7.3 I used sk8's kernel. After getting poor battery life, I reflashed 0.7 and 0.7.3, this time choosing the freegee kernel. I'm not actually sure if the kernel changed though.
Anyway, I think I'll post again tomorrow with some screenshots from BatteryStats+ and CPU Spy.
I'm wondering if this recent botched update had the battery fixes we need. Hopefully they'll re-release it soon.
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When I would get bad drain, which has happened several times, I could narrow it down to a couple things in order to solve the problem.
In my case it would always happen after installing Google+. Uninstall and reboot would usually fix the issue. If I got drain on a fresh install without g+ installed, I found that if I installed the 2.2 kernel separately as a stand alone zip, that would fix it. Don't know why but it may work for you too.
I don't have screen shots, but today I recharged at 38% after 3:10 of phone use and 1:55 screen on time and about 15 hours off charger. That's with Wi-Fi on the whole time and Bluetooth for about 9 hours. I have my work exchange account on active sync with push notifications. Facebook and Twitterer to 4 hour intervals. I'm underclocked to 1350 and using powersave gov with deadline.
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jivy26 said:
Yea I've tried fdt but I think it has to be kernel related drain issues
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Believe you are correct. There were issues on the Samsung Infuse and even the international SGS3 for a while... it was referred to as 'memory leak.' Has been worked out by devs on XDA. You can put memory leak in the XDA search above... it's above my pay grade.
Edit: It's great to see another RD here... hope you will reconsider keeping the phone and stay !!
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When I would get bad drain, which has happened several times, I could narrow it down to a couple things in order to solve the problem.
In my case it would always happen after installing Google+. Uninstall and reboot would usually fix the issue. If I got drain on a fresh install without g+ installed, I found that if I installed the 2.2 kernel separately as a stand alone zip, that would fix it. Don't know why but it may work for you too.
I don't have screen shots, but today I recharged at 38% after 3:10 of phone use and 1:55 screen on time and about 15 hours off charger. That's with Wi-Fi on the whole time and Bluetooth for about 9 hours. I have my work exchange account on active sync with push notifications. Facebook and Twitterer to 4 hour intervals. I'm underclocked to 1350 and using powersave gov with deadline.
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have Google+ uninstalled, but part of me thinks Google Now may be partially the culprit (although why that would be the case with all radios off, I don't know).
I'll try a fresh install of the 2.2 kernel and see if that helps. Thanks.
I can't speak for anyone else but FDT did wonders for my battery life. I was only able to go about 12 hours prior to disabling FD.
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Digil said:
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have Google+ uninstalled, but part of me thinks Google Now may be partially the culprit (although why that would be the case with all radios off, I don't know).
I'll try a fresh install of the 2.2 kernel and see if that helps. Thanks.
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I always install GNow, love the inverted version.
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johnbyebye said:
I can't speak for anyone else but FDT did wonders for my battery life. I was only able to go about 12 hours prior to disabling FD.
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This is good for sure... it's just that compared to other phones, Android OS and Android System should not be that high.
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This is good for sure... it's just that compared to other phones, Android OS and Android System should not be that high.
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That's what leads me to believe it's a faulty measure...
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That's what leads me to believe it's a faulty measure...
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^^^ This is indeed worth considering.... I think the question then becomes why is it consistent among the 3 roms we are using? Maybe when JB source is out and something is built from source all will be good.
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^^^ This is indeed worth considering.... I think the question then becomes why is it consistent among the 3 roms we are using? Maybe when JB source is out and something is built from source all will be good.
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I would be less inclined to believe it is a faulty measure if we had a different ROM not built off stock (AOKP/CM10) that could produce different values. However, I seriously doubt anything built into either of the two custom ROM's is geared toward normalizing that reading. That's why they are both the same as the stock AndroidOS percentages. Jivy is probably right that it's a kernel issue. With the size battery we have, imagine the potential if it is a true reading (androidOS out-of-control) and we can get it under control down the road. We're talking double the current best battery life you've ever had on this phone at the very least.
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Get BetterBatteryStats, select Since unplugged and Alarms to see what is waking the device (making it not go into a deep sleep). eBay was a big culprit for me.
The wakelock that keeps the phone awake during background data transfer (screen off) lasts 6 seconds (I am guessing it does it in multiples of 6s) regardless of how long the sync takes. Everytime email, facebook, gmail, drive, picasa, twitter, g+, google maps, ebay, calendar, contacts.. whatever wakes the phone to check something, it will be a minimum of 6 seconds.. This adds up over the course of the day and it is counted in the Android OS. Shut down syncs you don't absolutely want/need and this number will go down. All phones with the Snapdragon S4 Pro has it, especially the Nexus4. It seems they've done some kernel work to fix/reduce it but I havent really looked into it since I don't have that phone. I've seen complaints in the Droid DNA forum as well.
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Get BetterBatteryStats, select Since unplugged and Alarms to see what is waking the device (making it not go into a deep sleep). eBay was a big culprit for me.
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This. EBay for me too. BetterBatteryStats is your friend.
Anyone else experiencing scrolling lag or delay. Clearing cache and wiping dalvik fixes it but the issue returns after about two days.
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Anyone else experiencing scrolling lag or delay. Clearing cache and wiping dalvik fixes it but the issue returns after about two days.
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Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
On paper this is the best galaxy s ever, we all know that, but I have had this phone for 2 weeks now, and I have had the worst android experience on any phone, I had owned every phone on the galaxy s line since the beginning.
I haven't seen any phone with more lags or software flaws than this one.
To begin, the wakeup lag, sometimes more than 10 secs for the phone to wakeup.
The sd card read/write lag, I change my sd card to a Samsung top notch one, and the lag is still noticeable.
Memory issues, I recreates thisnissues in may ways, open up a game (plants vs zombies 2) play for a couple of mins, lock the phone, and see if you can weke it up.
I noticed a bit more smotthnes after the updatw but still the performance on this phone is just awful.
I hope this is an isolated issue, but I have seen a lot of people complaining about the lag as well.
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Forgot to add the connection issues, I use the subway a lot, I have to put the phone in airplane mode and off to get reception back after getting off the subway, otherwise it will not refresh the connection by itself.
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livito said:
Forgot to add the connection issues, I use the subway a lot, I have to put the phone in airplane mode and off to get reception back after getting off the subway, otherwise it will not refresh the connection by itself.
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Me toi
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livito said:
Forgot to add the connection issues, I use the subway a lot, I have to put the phone in airplane mode and off to get reception back after getting off the subway, otherwise it will not refresh the connection by itself.
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Me too. I can't tell you how many problems I've had with this phone. That's just one of the many.
I don't have any of these problems. Maybe its crapware your carrier loaded that's restricting it?
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Yes, it might be a "T-Mobile" version problem, I am pretty sure this are software related problems, I would like to see it running on a vanilla version of android, it has to be TouchWiz messing it up, but anyway, this had to be thoroughly tested before releasing it to the public, shame on T-Mobile/Samsung, hope a fix is on the way.
livito said:
Yes, it might be a "T-Mobile" version problem, I am pretty sure this are software related problems, I would like to see it running on a vanilla version of android, it has to be TouchWiz messing it up, but anyway, this had to be thoroughly tested before releasing it to the public, shame on T-Mobile/Samsung, hope a fix is on the way.
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Try using the international stock roms. On the S4, those were MUCH better that the US version roms. I know it requires rooting, but you'll probably be happier and it doesn't really matter if you're outside your return period anyway.
I don't have any of those problems either.
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Me neither
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Great phone, no issues, where did you buy yur phones?
I've had the phone for a while now and it hasn't lagged once, the fingerprint scanner works over 90% of the time, and signal is good as well. Yeah, the HR monitor is a total gimmick, but to say this phone is "the worst galaxy" is a bit extreme.
So either I got extremely lucky and got 2 phones without any problems, or some people are getting unlucky with their purchase.
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Yes, it might be a "T-Mobile" version problem, I am pretty sure this are software related problems, I would like to see it running on a vanilla version of android, it has to be TouchWiz messing it up, but anyway, this had to be thoroughly tested before releasing it to the public, shame on T-Mobile/Samsung, hope a fix is on the way.
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I have a feeling most of it is a T-mobile problem. However, I have a friend on another carrier (I think it's Verizon) and he hates his as well. Tons of problems.
i got no problem with mine S5, just love it.
I have the mysterious lag screen problem on wake!
livito said:
On paper this is the best galaxy s ever, we all know that, but I have had this phone for 2 weeks now, and I have had the worst android experience on any phone, I had owned every phone on the galaxy s line since the beginning.
I haven't seen any phone with more lags or software flaws than this one.
To begin, the wakeup lag, sometimes more than 10 secs for the phone to wakeup.
The sd card read/write lag, I change my sd card to a Samsung top notch one, and the lag is still noticeable.
Memory issues, I recreates thisnissues in may ways, open up a game (plants vs zombies 2) play for a couple of mins, lock the phone, and see if you can weke it up.
I noticed a bit more smotthnes after the updatw but still the performance on this phone is just awful.
I hope this is an isolated issue, but I have seen a lot of people complaining about the lag as well.
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Sometimes, no matter what I've tried, I'll be using the phone and let the screen turn off, When I push the home button, nothing, the phone is still running but I can't see anything, I try to use the power button and again nothing, I have to pull the battery and restart the phone to get it working. There is a group of people that are experiencing the problem and at first people thought it may be SD card related but it is not conclusive at this point. It will work fine sometimes for days, then all of a sudden pull the above mentioned crap.
Exactly, onlast Sunday every time I locked the screen it would never wakeup, I had to remove the battery like 3 times, it has been OK for the las 2 days though, but this is frustrating, I mean, I haven't even rooted the phone yet, I read that 4.4.3 is on its way, hope that addresses these performance issues.
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Yes I agree this phone is very laggy specially the camera they send me a "new" phone and the problem still there, also i usually charge it at night
and this morning the screen was on the boot screen logo i had to remove the battery it sucks
So, I keep researching the reasons of why some of us have this issues, today I went to the "t-mobile my account" app, went to options and deselected all the options (ALL OF THEM), and I notice the fun is a lot smoother, probably the placebo effect, but I will keep trying for a couple of days, if you guys want give it a try.
No issues here, touch wood, using T-Mobile phone on AT&T network.
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I've only had the phone for about a week but it's amazing so far, I upgraded from a S2. I play Ingress constantly and lately I've been able to play for 4+ hours at a time before needing to recharge and that's just on the stock battery. I removed all the bloatware I could and turned most everything off just to try and squeeze out every little bit of battery life. The only thing bugging me about the phone so far is that root would void my warranty and I'm a little upset about that but meh, it's not like I ever needed it I'm just a little worried because the phone is so new. I might just wait until the 12 months is up and root the phone then. So far I don't really have a reason to need root but I'm sure that desire will gain in traction as new tools for the device get released. I'm mostly thinking about mods like Cyagenmod, that will be one of the reasons I root and break Knox if I do before the warranty.
livito said:
On paper this is the best galaxy s ever, we all know that, but I have had this phone for 2 weeks now, and I have had the worst android experience on any phone, I had owned every phone on the galaxy s line since the beginning.
I haven't seen any phone with more lags or software flaws than this one.
To begin, the wakeup lag, sometimes more than 10 secs for the phone to wakeup.
The sd card read/write lag, I change my sd card to a Samsung top notch one, and the lag is still noticeable.
Memory issues, I recreates thisnissues in may ways, open up a game (plants vs zombies 2) play for a couple of mins, lock the phone, and see if you can weke it up.
I noticed a bit more smotthnes after the updatw but still the performance on this phone is just awful.
I hope this is an isolated issue, but I have seen a lot of people complaining about the lag as well.
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