[Q] New 35it, browser and pandora crash constantly (memory issues?) - Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just got a 35it, brand new in the box off the shelf. Ran whatever out-of-the-box firmware update it needed and immediately started having issues.
In my head should be the perfect device but I keep having problems that I think might be memory related. I know this isn't a "high end" device but I'd imagine 800mhz and 1gb of memory shouldn't choke like this (pretty sure my old phone had the same specs, right down to the 2.2 android).
The browser crashes CONSTANTLY. I was attempting to browse to a site to download ArcTools and the Google Play Store APK, and almost every other page I'd navigate to would crash the browser.
Also, I installed ArcTools and the play store to get Pandora running. It seems this little guy just doesn't have the power to run Pandora reliably - it'll fire up, sit there for a second, and finally start playing - but as soon as I hit the home button it'll hang up, ask to force close/wait, and then, finally, the app will crash.
Does this sound like a defective device, or am I doing something wrong? Will Pandora run better with a full root?

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[Q] Browser and other apps reloading or re-logging

When the vibrant first came out, the first thing that caught my attention was no matter how many apps I was running, they were going to be there waiting (in memory) for me to come back, multitasking at its best. This happened especially with the web browser. If you were browsing the web and needed to grab something from another app, take call or message; once back in the browser, everything was there in the same place (and up to 8 tabs/windows). My previous phone was the Mytouch 3g, which needed to reload all tabs when back into the browser, or even worse, just the home page.
After the froyo update was released (I not sure if this happened as well on the update that supposedly fixed the gps back on October), all apps started to be killed by the system after you switch from them even for a few seconds. This is especially annoying in the web browser. No matter how long you are away from the browser, once back all tabs/windows start reloading. I know that at this point all task-killer-lovers would say why I am complaining about this. Basically is that I would love to decide which app stays and which app goes. I know that if you leave an app running for a long time, the system would kill it eventually when in need of resources, but that doesn’t mean leaving the browser for 2 seconds and everything starts to reload.
I have tried dolphin and opera with the same result. This has happen to me when running the stock froyo update from Tmobile, Nero V, Axura 2.2.7 & 8, Ginger Clone Final and Bionix V 1.2.1. I have tried without any luck killing the task manager process, remove the jobmanager.apk and even used other task killers to see if the ignore list feature had some effect.
Searching the web for an answer only shows a few posts about this, everybody since to like the app-killing way or thinks is not a problem for what it’s worth.
A note about the app-killing term, I don’t know if what is happening in my system is actually the app being terminated. I say this because it doesn’t show on the native task manager, but once you go back to the browser or apps like Google reader usually the page is there, of course, after all reloading is done (time, time and more time) and the information you were trying to fill out or the news you were reading is gone.

Browser always running

So I was told to only use the back button to leave an app when I'm done, which closes it so its not running all the time. I do that, but for some reason it doesn't quite work on some apps... for instance on the browser, if my wifi session dies while using my campus wifi, I have to force close the browser for it to automatically bring up the login page. And the app quickdesk also shows that the browser is always running. I shouldn't have to force close, and I hear bad things about other task killers... but it wont end itself. what to do?
Sent from my Motorola Atrix using the XDA App
So after a long browsing session you hit back back back back back back back until the browser closes.?. Or you force kill it. Do you have a particular reason why or your just following someone else's 'back out' preferences? I say there is no reason to end your browser, none. If you are playing a game, then yes there might be advantages to backing out opposed to hitting the "home" key. However, just this morning I was playing PvZ and hit the home key, no lag and two hours later I opened the game to the same spot and continued.
The Atrix manages tasks very well, much better than my Captivate for instance. For the most part it will background a task so its not burning up cpu/bat. I'm sure you may have noticed the task manager popup from time to time saying "the following app has been running 45 minutes, would you like to kill it?". If you are worried about what apps are burning up your cpu/bat, use Watchdog.
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So after a long browsing session you hit back back back back back back back until the browser closes.?. Or you force kill it. Do you have a particular reason why or your just following someone else's 'back out' preferences? I say there is no reason to end your browser, none. If you are playing a game, then yes there might be advantages to backing out opposed to hitting the "home" key. However, just this morning I was playing PvZ and hit the home key, no lag and two hours later I opened the game to the same spot and continued.
The Atrix manages tasks very well, much better than my Captivate for instance. For the most part it will background a task so its not burning up cpu/bat. I'm sure you may have noticed the task manager popup from time to time saying "the following app has been running 45 minutes, would you like to kill it?". If you are worried about what apps are burning up your cpu/bat, use Watchdog.
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Yeah I usually don't have a problem. My problem is that I want the browser to end so that it can start up a new session next time. Like I said with the wifi login...Usually my browser is on the google homepage, so since it never ends it will always open up google again. Then when my wifi session dies, I open the browser so that the login page will show up, but just google tries to load because it's trying to 'remember' a previous session with the app. I realize what I'm trying to explain probably sounds really confusing lol sorry.

[Q] Background apps won't stay. Little help?

Hi, I've got issues.
My GT i9205 will not run background apps for any length of time.
For example, if I am playing music (poweramp) and I go into any game, or fire up chrome/feedly/redditFlow, the music stops and the app icon for poweramp disappears. The access to the quick controls in my task bar is no longer there and if I switch back to the music app and press play again, it will not remember the last played point. Plus my game will get killed.
Another, possibly better example - if I fire up a more resource heavy game, tasker, swipepad, any kind of system monitor will die and their icons will disappear from the taskbar.
It also seems to be progressive, when it first started - maybe 3 months after getting the phone, I could still play games and some background apps would die, but some would stay. Now none stay and sometimes the games themselves die (while loading a level, it may kick me back out to whatever homescreen launcher I'm using).
There is also an issue whereby, when I reboot the phone, I will have to try 2/3 times as it tends to get stuck at the gently pulsating Samsung Logo and will not go further.
I'd had previous advice from someone who suspected a corrupted filesystem and recommended a factory reset, which I did. No joy, after same deal.
Last week I rooted the phone for the first time (nothing fancy just vcoreroot-v2.tar) and today I went to Sammobile and got the newest Stock ROM. Just used it with Odin and apart from Root disappearing, which was expected, I still have all the same problems.
I'm having a hard time finding a way to locate anybody else whose had the same issue and fast running out of ideas...
Any help would be much appreciated.

Apps' and Games' Crashes & Other Issues

*** I have no choice than to beg for help. So please please please help me. ***
So I'm going to tell you girls/guys the whole story. It's going to be a long one, so bear with me. I just didn't wanted to leave any info.
I've been using MIUI for a long while, in the beginning it was all great. But as I started installing more & more apps, I started having issues/lags while playing games. Then there is MIUI's ram management issue, i.e. If I had to run a heavy game/app, I had to clear out RAM(you know the special feature in MIUI). Other than I had network issues. For ex : Whenever I played PR Legacy Wars(internet intensive game), I suffered from a lot of LAG. And Tekken(officially by Bandai Namco on Play Store) also, Force closed once or twice.
So to fix all this, I decided to go with a Custom ROM, basically because of the RAM Management issue.
First I started using CM 14.1. In the beginning the results were good. Like the internet problem was fixed to 100%, PR ran nearly perfect. Other than that there was no RAM issues. But as I started installing more apps, I started having crashes. First it happened with HQ Trivia, then with C.A.T.S. & PR Legacy Wars.
What happened to each app individually :-
HQ Trivia - Every time I play a live game, the app would crash multiple times given that I tap on ''wait'' and phone keeps on processing the app, when I get the message "App stopped working".
C.A.T.S. - This is neither a graphic nor internet intensive game, but still when I was typing something in group chat, the whole system crashed, the phone rebooted from the Boot Animation not from MI logo.
PR Legacy Wars - This game is a bit graphic intensive & internet intensive for sure. Same like when I was typing something in group chat, the same thing happened as mentioned above. Keep in mind that crash should've happened when there was more load on phone like during a battle.
And some very heavy crashes. Like when I try to switch accounts between guest & usual, the system crashed so hard, that I couldn't use it, Not even the hard buttons, like power button won't even turn the screen on. The vibration motor started spinning and wouldn't stop. I literally have to open the phone and disconnect the battery cable.
So having no choice, I installed NOS N, but I haven't tried the account feature in it, in fear of what happened earlier to CM 14.1, As I was able to recover through that heavy crash 3-4 times, but I guess it was the 5th time, I wasn't able to get into the system and lost all data. Why I feared? Cause I'm having similar issues as in CM 14.1, not all of them but similar.
SO after installing NOS N, these are the issues I'm having :-
HQ Trivia - Same app crashing while playing live games.
Sonic Forces - Whenever I watch an AD, if it's longer than like 5 or 10 seconds, app would crash & restart. If it's small or interactive or even non-interactive, if I keep tapping on the screen, app doesn't crashes, otherwise it does.
Twitter - Kept crashing(first installed through TiBa). Issue fixed after I installed it through Play Store.
YouTube - Force closed once or twice. Sometimes when I'm watching a video, when I press back then tap on Home/Trending etc it shows white blank.
Games - If music is playing in background, whenever I exit the app, at the end, the sound kinda gets laggy/screechy.
It's not been that long since I've been using NOS N. And I didn't do any hard testing especially that account feature. So the whole OS hasn't crashed yet. But still these issues hurt in long term, especially the HQ problem. Also all these apps were first installed through TiBa backup, then I installed them through Play Store, so that there's no compatibility issue.
As this OS has a feature to kill apps by holding back button. If sometimes I have lag in PR Legacy Wars, it get fixed by killing & opening it again.
What do I need from you guys?
To tell me if this a hardware or software related problem. I can create some report or log, so you could help me better. Just tell me how to do it? Meanwhile I'll try installing other OSs.
PS: I may not reply immediately, but I will reply.

RAM management after Sept Update

I use the tablet mostly for playing. And I am used to move between them without issues. Unless I open a bunch of other apps or browser with multiple tabs and what not. The games remain running without issues or at least they used to. Normally I don't update anything, except for the games because they are live service and I can't play them if I don't. After learning that this update would improved multitasking I updated.
Ever since I can't keep the games open if I leave them for like 20 minutes or maybe less, haven't time it.
Using it as I did, closed them. So I decide to clear all and only play one. After a notification, went to that game for daily tap immediately went back to the prev game and it had close, which cost me a match. After finishing what I was doing on that game. I went to the settings to see if something was amiss. And all the apps I remember disabling that I couldn't uninstall like Youtube are still disabled. I don't have any social media app like FB or anything that would be constantly running. And went back to the game. Lo and behold had to restart again. I checked Dev options and Apps "Background process limit" still standard. Memory is at 4~4.5 with so much free I don't get I it's been so aggressive. Have 66 apps on "deep sleeping" have things like digital well being and other monitoring stuff also off. And the only thing I changed was enabling the "Labs" to allow Multi window for all apps. And just now, went to homescreen while I picked something from the kitchen, I know I didn't take more than 5 min because the screen didn't even timed out. And when I tap on a game, had to relaunch.
God this is ridiculously annoying. And non of the games updated since. I only updated a couple of apps from store.
And worst, I updated believing it would be better at multitasking. Like it would be smarter when using split screen, but it isn't. Maybe it does improve for Samsung apps. But I've seen nothing good from anything I use. And changes to the UI could've been implemented better. Like having dual pane only when you are holding the tablet lanscape. I remember having very old android device that had dual pane but revert to single if you hold them portrait.
I'm considering doing a full reset. But I'm hoping not too. Between the apps and games, which most are 5GB+ up to nearly 10GB it would take me a very long time to set everything again, Easily a full day for some games. (Very bad old, first gen copper line DSL)
Is anyone have any type of similar issues. Cause it would suck if I reset it and that's just how it works now. And it wants me to use the "keep open" feature. Which I don't like, I do like to use the clear all.
One of the main reason I got this particular tablet was for the multitasking. This is the first device I didn't try rooting out of the bat because of a warranty and what not and decided to give it a go as is. Now I'm not sure If I'm just spoiled by years for rooted and heavily modified devices. Or this is just a Samsung thing.
@Omizuke: Not sure if this is related to RAM management, but I'm also on September update. When I update apps via Play Store/Galaxy Store, the device will completely freeze for as long as 30 seconds. It just locks up, I can't do anything. Can't pull down the status bar, nav buttons don't work. Then suddenly it returns to normal. I get the same thing when connecting to WiFi or pairing via Bluetooth. ROM is clean flashed with Odin, i also did a factory reset.
This didn't happen at all on the July update.
I'm not seeing any issues with app killing, as you've described it. All opened apps continue running and I can return to them on demand. I play a lot of games, COD Mobile in particular, and I switch apps a lot between rounds.
I feel you on the not wanting to set up everything again. I save cached copies (APKs/obbs) of my games/apps on my SD card, so I can set everything up without Internet. Just use an app like Total Commander/X-plore to copy the apps.

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