Hello Friends,
Just bought a N3, and a current owner of an S4. Hope you're well. Quick questions:
1. What is the best/recommended way of rooting the N3. I heard Kingo or something like that works, flawlessly?
2. So I heard KNOX counter is ONLY tripped if a CUSTOM Recovery is flashed. I assume on the N3, we still need something like TWRP or CWM to flash Custom ROM, is that correct? If so, which one do you guys recommend? How do you flash it (Odin or Flashable ZIP {Link please?})? And will it void my warranty or up the KNOX count? If so, what exactly do I lose that way?
3. Where can I find the names of the Releases and Firmwares released for the Sprint N3? And what is the latest?
4. What ROM would you recommend that's polished AND highly customizable? (For S4 users, I am looking for something like "Sacs" for N3?
5. I noticed that the Development section is nearly dead for the Note 3. Especially for Sprint. AT&T didn't even have a single ROM, if I remember. Only the T-Mobile forum had a wide selection of ROMs for the Note 3. Anyone know, why and do we expect that to change around here?
Thank you in advance for helping me!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474222
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Kingo, custom recovery will trip Knox, mj4 Odin full tar.md5, idk because I've always been stock, true but like with the s4 touchwiz was good enough for me and pretty bug free.
ProFragger said:
Hello Friends,
Just bought a N3, and a current owner of an S4. Hope you're well. Quick questions:
1. What is the best/recommended way of rooting the N3. I heard Kingo or something like that works, flawlessly?
2. So I heard KNOX counter is ONLY tripped if a CUSTOM Recovery is flashed. I assume on the N3, we still need something like TWRP or CWM to flash Custom ROM, is that correct? If so, which one do you guys recommend? How do you flash it (Odin or Flashable ZIP {Link please?})? And will it void my warranty or up the KNOX count? If so, what exactly do I lose that way?
3. Where can I find the names of the Releases and Firmwares released for the Sprint N3? And what is the latest?
4. What ROM would you recommend that's polished AND highly customizable? (For S4 users, I am looking for something like "Sacs" for N3?
5. I noticed that the Development section is nearly dead for the Note 3. Especially for Sprint. AT&T didn't even have a single ROM, if I remember. Only the T-Mobile forum had a wide selection of ROMs for the Note 3. Anyone know, why and do we expect that to change around here?
Thank you in advance for helping me!
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ok.. So CF root is the best way using odin. . I also came from the galaxy s4 and really never gave thought to Knox it doesn't bother me and if you search you will get different answers about Knox from everyone, yes your warranty is now voided but if you can figure out how to reset your Knox to its original state and put back the original recovery and ROM yes you can get service from sprint in the sprint store. . But they will not service it with after market recovery and a themed ROM..I think the latest firmware is mj5 but What is available or what everyone is using I should say is mj4.. CHECK OUT JELLYBOMB ROM.. For the N3. . The development is slow in my opinion and only mine because the phone is new and the phone is pretty pricey for someone that wants to do an upgrade and not the 1 up thing. . And last but not least the developer didn't get there phones yet from there wives and girlfriend for x mas yet. So I think things will pick up in January. .
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oscarthegrouch said:
Kingo, custom recovery will trip Knox, mj4 Odin full tar.md5, idk because I've always been stock, true but like with the s4 touchwiz was good enough for me and pretty bug free.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474222
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ok.. So CF root is the best way using odin. . I also came from the galaxy s4 and really never gave thought to Knox it doesn't bother me and if you search you will get different answers about Knox from everyone, yes your warranty is now voided but if you can figure out how to reset your Knox to its original state and put back the original recovery and ROM yes you can get service from sprint in the sprint store. . But they will not service it with after market recovery and a themed ROM..I think the latest firmware is mj5 but What is available or what everyone is using I should say is mj4.. CHECK OUT JELLYBOMB ROM.. For the N3. . The development is slow in my opinion and only mine because the phone is new and the phone is pretty pricey for someone that wants to do an upgrade and not the 1 up thing. . And last but not least the developer didn't get there phones yet from there wives and girlfriend for x mas yet. So I think things will pick up in January. .
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Gentlemen, thank you very much for your very informative responses! Especially Monty on the extended response. Some follow ups come to mind:
1. So I could careless about service from Sprint. I bought mine from Craigslist and don't use the phone on Sprint, anyway. However, it seems like there is NO way to reverse the Knox counter, which means that I cannot get service from Samsung... is that true? (In case the Motherboard is fried or whatever?)
2. As Android owners, roaming the XDA, no less, I am sure you guys are like me, that is, you itch till you drop, until the phone's rooted and a Custom Recovery is on-board (am I right !?). If Custom Recoveries are needed for essentials like Custom ROMs and Nandroids, how are you guys making do WITHOUT those? I know Root + TitaniumBackup to remove Bloat, and Xposed Wanam will hold us over a bit. But how are you guys getting NEW, STOCK Rooted versions and not making Nandroids, with the Stock recoveries?
3. Agreed, and hoping that development picks up for these, otherwise it would be a shame. Still surprised to see how many ROMs they had over at T-Mobile and even Verizon forums !! Can any of those themes and or Mods be used with the Sprints?
4. So are we unanimous, JellyBomb is the closest to being the most customized(able) ROM available for Sprint Note 3s? If so, what exactly is that ROM? Is it TouchWiz or AOSP :-/?
5. For my S4 friends... is there a modification app like 3minit settings available that we can use with Stock, Rooted ROMs to change the COLOR of the Settings toggles?
Thanks again for getting the ball rolling on my questions, guys. I know they are a lot, but trying to learn as fast as possible !
If your motherboard is fried Samsung won't be able to turn the phone to see if Knox has been tripped. Best way in my opinion is to take all updates to MJ4 if you haven't yet, then root with kingo, your know should stay at 0. Then use Wanam exposed to make the mods you want. If you really want to make major changes you can always push the needed files via adb. Granted this isn't a complete ROM but it will get you close. I have been running stock with several tweaks applied by wanam and web and get great speed stability and battery.
Just my 2 cents.
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This Knox crap is irritating. Samsung may not get my money next time if htc plays it's cards right.
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If your motherboard is fried Samsung won't be able to turn the phone to see if Knox has been tripped. Best way in my opinion is to take all updates to MJ4 if you haven't yet, then root with kingo, your know should stay at 0. Then use Wanam exposed to make the mods you want. If you really want to make major changes you can always push the needed files via adb. Granted this isn't a complete ROM but it will get you close. I have been running stock with several tweaks applied by wanam and web and get great speed stability and battery.
Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for your response, bud. I am trying to root with Kingo, as we speak. Need some help from the forum for the following:
1. Can someone point me to a guide on how to remove Knox from the phone?
2. Can anyone help me get the 1x/3g mod on my phone?
3. I will also be using the phone flashed to another carrier. Any one of you guys doing that? And if so, how did you get rid of the No Sim error?
4. To de-bloat, can someone point me to a list of APKs, safe to remove for the Sprint variant. I want to keep all the cool features in the camera like Golf, Beauty, and etc?
Thank you again!
rooting WILL ALSO trip knox unless you do it in a way that does no (there is a thread on here about it and how to do it knox safe) I did not care I just rooted I am insured so the warranty is meaningless to me.
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rooting WILL ALSO trip knox unless you do it in a way that does no (there is a thread on here about it and how to do it knox safe) I did not care I just rooted I am insured so the warranty is meaningless to me.
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can you please tell me which way did you do it? i dropped my insurance so i really dont care about knox now. im on mj4..thanks
I don't actually remember it was a thread here on XDA I just followed the directions and I was rooted
I am doing this from my phone so searching is a little more difficult if I could figure out which that I use I will reply here again
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stang04 said:
can you please tell me which way did you do it? i dropped my insurance so i really dont care about knox now. im on mj4..thanks
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I used Kingo to root my phone with one click and no Knox trip.
Installing a Recovery trips the counter, but I realized that us... here in the Sprint Note 3 world don't really have great Custom ROMs to choose from... so why do it anyway? Maybe if I had the T - Mobile version or even Verizon ! That of course you miss out on Nandroids. I hope someone proves me wrong soon.
Just missing the 1x/3G Mod right now.. otherwise I'm all set with Rooted MJ4 and Xposed modules. Good luck...
Can anyone please point me to a list of "Safe to Remove" apps for the Sprint N3? Thanks!
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I know I'm a pain, but I have a few more questions. I'm unable to find the answers that are specific to this device.
I've decided that (at least for now) I'll be keeping the stock ROM that is currently on this phone. I have yet to look at all of the other great ROMs and decide which ones I'd like, and I will eventually do that, but not today.
One of these days, Verizon will be pushing an OTA update. I don't want to lose my root, but if I'm keeping JB, I want the update. Will Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper work on this phone?
Will I get the OTA with a fully debloated device?
What apps do you recommend for a rooted device other than Titanium backup?
As always, any and all help is much appreciated.
If you're debloating the stock rom (using TiBu to remove apps), your phone most likely wont update properly. OTA Root Keeper should work. This phone hasn't had a update so no one can confirm any of this.
Your best bet is to flash a stock based rom (Clean Rom or something similar) and whenever we get an update, the rom developers will update the rom.
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I backed up using twrp to my sd card. I apparently didn't have enough space on the phone, so I did sd. Is that enough or do I need to backup onto my phone as well?
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When an OTA finally rolls out, you will receive a notification. It's not going to force you to update. Then to get rid of the notification, you just need to change a few lines in the build.prop to the newest build number.
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My wife's Note 2 was stock w/ root and recovery. Sometimes in the mornings her phone would be in TWRP from where it had downloaded the OTA and attempted to install it. I imagine the S4 will be the same way.
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Just read in the root thread that the OTA updates your bootloader and prevents you from flashing the old kernel to root again. BEWARE - Do not update if you plan to keep root.
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If I were to get this update without unrooting first, would I get in trouble/lose warranty with this update?
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If I were to get this update without unrooting first, would I get in trouble/lose warranty with this update?
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You'll only ever get in trouble/lose warranty if you return a rooted/modded phone. Research Odin and download a stock Odin image. If you ever need to return your phone, just flash that first and you're good to go.
Also look into an app called Triangle Away. I haven't checked this phone ik download mode yet to see if I've tripped the flash counter but Triangle Away is an invaluable app for resetting it (requires root on a stock rom).
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Make the Jump!
To be completely straightforward -- you probably really don't want the new update. From what I've been hearing around the boards, it doesn't really provide any new important (at least not in my eyes) functionality to the device. If anything, it's mostly just a patch for holes that they unintentionally left. Those holes are what allow you to root the device so easily.
You're doing the same thing I did, by the way -- I hung on to the stock ROM for quite some time, and was a little worried to separate. However, I highly recommend just making the jump and going with HyperDrive. It's on release 5.7 at this point, and I've been using it as a daily driver for a few days now. I'ts really solid, you get all of your stock capabilities and functions plus MORE customization. Pretty cool, and much better than whatever Verizon will eventually push out in my opinion.
Good luck with whatever you choose!
I did decide to unroot for now, and go with the update. Sooner or later, after a good root method comes out, I will likely root again. Mostly, I just wanted to see what this update was all about. It's both good and underwhelming. It's good because the phone doesn't lag like it used to, but otherwise underwhelming.
Thank you, everyone, for your help. I'll definitely stick around on the forums. I really like the community here.
A rom would have fixed that lag.
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This is the deal. I rooted my note 3 and was not able to receive OTA's like everyone else because my device had a "custom" status. Well I used Wanam xposed and changed my status from custom to Official and now I see there is a 530mb download and it starts downloading it but I cancel it because I don't know if it's safe to take the OTA. I have my phone set up with all the features I wanted like hotspot, missing data, and airplane toggle and don't wanna mess that up or brick my phone.
What do you guys think about my situation? I'm on a stock rooted MJ4 rom tweaked as I said above.
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The best thing you can do is put the device back to stock or flash the 4.4 rom from Sprint via odin. In the general forum you can find the rom, instructions and steps to do it safely.
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Normal practice is never to take a Ota while being rooted, it's best to Odin as recommended above.
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Normal practice is never to take a Ota while being rooted, it's best to Odin as recommended above.
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Or install a custom kitkat rom, never ota as root!
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This is the deal. I rooted my note 3 and was not able to receive OTA's like everyone else because my device had a "custom" status. Well I used Wanam xposed and changed my status from custom to Official and now I see there is a 530mb download and it starts downloading it but I cancel it because I don't know if it's safe to take the OTA. I have my phone set up with all the features I wanted like hotspot, missing data, and airplane toggle and don't wanna mess that up or brick my phone.
What do you guys think about my situation? I'm on a stock rooted MJ4 rom tweaked as I said above.
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Many good answers here, all appropriate.
Your update is not taking because even though Wanam can fake your status to official, your phone's rooted status (assuming you didn't use a Knox safe rooting method) is preventing the update from sticking. Samsung syscope is looking for signed binaries that are official, and thus you're hosed as far as the OTA update is concerned.
But you have many options, the easiest of which start with grabbing one of the tar (freeza) or one-click packages (Rwilco12) from the dev forum, installing from your computer, then adding recovery, rooting, open bootloader if you wish, and then staying put or forging ahead.
There are already a few good roms that are live, and some mods you can flash, if you are so inclined.
Good luck!
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Many good answers here, all appropriate.
Your update is not taking because even though Wanam can fake your status to official, your phone's rooted status (assuming you didn't use a Knox safe rooting method) is preventing the update from sticking. Samsung syscope is looking for signed binaries that are official, and thus you're hosed as far as the OTA update is concerned.
But you have many options, the easiest of which start with grabbing one of the tar (freeza) or one-click packages (Rwilco12) from the dev forum, installing from your computer, then adding recovery, rooting, open bootloader if you wish, and then staying put or forging ahead.
There are already a few good roms that are live, and some mods you can flash, if you are so inclined.
Good luck!
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I don't know if it will stick or not. I cancel the download before it ever finishes. Before the Wanam it said I couldn't because the status said custom but now it says official it recognized there is an update available.
I am happy with my note as is but that may be because I don't fully understand what 4.4 kit kat has to offer over 4.3?
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I don't know if it will stick or not. I cancel the download before it ever finishes. Before the Wanam it said I couldn't because the status said custom but now it says official it recognized there is an update available.
I am happy with my note as is but that may be because I don't fully understand what 4.4 kit kat has to offer over 4.3?
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There is some misc improvements and a few little new things. But if you are happy with the way it is you can long press on the notification in your notification bar and it will bring up "app info" click that then uncheck allow notifications....hit ok then back out and it will hide the notification for you.
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So I rooted my Note 2 a couple of weeks ago and I want to update to Kitkat. What do you suggest I do?
unroot then do OTA update?
I know @Surge1223 on the Galaxy S4 thread designed a way to go from root to kitkat and keep the root. Any one out there doing something similar for this device?
Thanks
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So I rooted my Note 2 a couple of weeks ago and I want to update to Kitkat. What do you suggest I do?
unroot then do OTA update?
I know @Surge1223 on the Galaxy S4 thread designed a way to go from root to kitkat and keep the root. Any one out there doing something similar for this device?
Thanks
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I'm holding off on the update like most people say. Updating locked our bootloader so who knows what the next update could do. If you're rooted then just flash a kk ROM and be safe.
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fuzzychinsagrero said:
I'm holding off on the update like most people say. Updating locked our bootloader so who knows what the next update could do. If you're rooted then just flash a kk ROM and be safe.
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The only thing with that is, that the screen is cracked on it and I dont know if we plan on claiming the insurance on it. So if I flash it, I assume I will set off the flash/knox counter. Then I will have to purchase triangle away to reset it, correct? I guess I may have to do that anyways if I plan on unrooting it.
No idea what you mean by flash/counter and purchasing triangle. But if you mean flashing to stock and unrooting it's simple. Learn Odin search for use Odin s3 on XDA and its simple. If you get to that point I'll help you out. Hangouts I'm [email protected]
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fuzzychinsagrero said:
No idea what you mean by flash/counter and purchasing triangle. But if you mean flashing to stock and unrooting it's simple. Learn Odin search for use Odin s3 on XDA and its simple. If you get to that point I'll help you out. Hangouts I'm [email protected]
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Thanks @fuzzychinsagrero. The counter is a warranty thing, at least it is on the s3 and s4, that can tell if you have modified or put a different OS (ie. cynaogen, etc). If that counter has been changed from 0, sometimes they void the warranty because you tampered with it. I think you can tell if you have by doing the vol down+home+power when turning on the phone. Then do volume up for download mode and then you can see in the text in the upper left hand corner a flash counter and knox counter. Like I said, this is how it is on the s3 and s4, I figure it is the same.
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Thanks @fuzzychinsagrero. The counter is a warranty thing, at least it is on the s3 and s4, that can tell if you have modified or put a different OS (ie. cynaogen, etc). If that counter has been changed from 0, sometimes they void the warranty because you tampered with it. I think you can tell if you have by doing the vol down+home+power when turning on the phone. Then do volume up for download mode and then you can see in the text in the upper left hand corner a flash counter and knox counter. Like I said, this is how it is on the s3 and s4, I figure it is the same.
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Oh yeah got you now. And yes it does change. Odin I'd a great tool and very helpful. Good luck.
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Oh yeah got you now. And yes it does change. Odin I'd a great tool and very helpful. Good luck.
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And If I am correct, Triangle Away by chainfire, can reset that counter. Yes, odin is great I have used it to do some on my s4 and s3 I used to have.
Only way to get kitkat right now is to wait till Verizon actually releases, which wont be at least for another couple months. I wouldnt be surprised if its released after the Note 4 is released. (4.3 for Note 2 was pushed out after note 3, if I remember correctly. I might be wrong).
But as of right now, unless you're running 4.1.2 with an unlocked bootlader, you're out of luck.
But if you do have an unlocked bootloader, go flash AOKP or CM11 nightly builds. I prefer AOKP because it seemed a little more stable than CM11.
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And If I am correct, Triangle Away by chainfire, can reset that counter. Yes, odin is great I have used it to do some on my s4 and s3 I used to have.
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AFAIK Triangle Away simply hides the lock but if you dive deep in settings the system still reports as "Custom".
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Just found this thread that confirms root for the vzw and att s5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2780319
Would this vulnerability work on the s4 with kitkat?
Here's info on the exploit (CVE-2014-3153):
http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q2/467
http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/27fl04/another_linux_kernel_exploit_this_time_reachable/
http://www.securelist.com/en/advisories/59029
Edit @geohot has made a root method that works. All you have to do is go to http://towelroot.com and click the icon in the center to download tr.apk . Install the tr.apk after allowing installation from unknown sources. The click the button to root and the phone will reboot and you will have root. I recommend you download the updatesupersu1.99 zip and install the supersu from the common folder after extracting.
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Just found this thread that confirms root for the vzw and att s5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2780319
Would this vulnerability work on the s4 with kitkat
Here's info on the exploit.
http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q2/467
http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/27fl04/another_linux_kernel_exploit_this_time_reachable/
http://www.securelist.com/en/advisories/59029
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That vulnerability is going to be like Cube's getroot - it's going to work on a huge number of devices.
I've been looking on how to exploit it but haven't had much time to devote to it, but apparently it's been cracked for at least one phone.
We'll have native root on the S4/S5 and who knows what else pretty soon if I'm not mistaken. Good news.
Any devs willing to work on this? @k1mu @Surge1223 @ryanbg
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After reading the linked post it seems this is more a "nah-na-nah-na boo-boo" thing. It's not released, but it does give me hope that we can get a native root method like JB had.
My question is, to what end? Surge's pre - rooted functions well and is effectively stock, would this make any functionality differences vs a pre rooted rom?
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After reading the linked post it seems this is more a "nah-na-nah-na boo-boo" thing. It's not released, but it does give me hope that we can get a native root method like JB had.
My question is, to what end? Surge's pre - rooted functions well and is effectively stock, would this make any functionality differences vs a pre rooted rom?
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It would be easier to do, and for example, if you dont flash SuperSu before a reboot after installing a rom, you will lose root and have to start the downgrade and upgrade process all over again. If there was a native root method all you would have to do would be to probably run a script on your computer with your phone plugged in and you will have root back. I'd imagine it would be safer and have less chance of bricking.
I actually prefer the more difficult hacks...less likely to be exploited for malware. Not saying this one will be or even could be, but easy root is not necessarily good. I'm sure jcase is shaking his finger at everyone somewhere, lol.
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I actually prefer the more difficult hacks...less likely to be exploited for malware. Not saying this one will be or even could be, but easy root is not necessarily good. I'm sure jcase is shaking his finger at everyone somewhere, lol.
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I think jcase liked that a guy got root from this on the att s5. But jcase isn't working on this because he is on break.
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Any devs willing to work on this? @k1mu @Surge1223 @ryanbg
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As I said above, I'm already working on it. Been on travel all week and very busy, but I do intend to try to exploit this.
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As I said above, I'm already working on it. Been on travel all week and very busy, but I do intend to try to exploit this.
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I for one would love this as I have had zero ability to use any of the other ways for rooting my s4...I have had every problem trying every method so I have just given up and would love this...thanks anyone for working on it...
It's already worked out question is how the bounty is going to be paid and or split. It's not just one persons work but a bunch of contribute used info being used and who will get full credit. The bounty is what's holding up release because now yall want to pay
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Any devs willing to work on this? @k1mu @Surge1223 @ryanbg
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@joshuabg @k1mu @Surge1223 @ryanbg
count me in for testing....[emoji41][emoji106]
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Cod3L1ne said:
It's already worked out question is how the bounty is going to be paid and or split. It's not just one persons work but a bunch of contribute used info being used and who will get full credit. The bounty is what's holding up release because now yall want to pay
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As I've said before, bounties aren't my motivation. I post what I find and make it public.
This particular vulnerability is an interesting one, with a good potential for exploit. It is not going to be easy to exploit across a large number of phones.
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It's already worked out question is how the bounty is going to be paid and or split. It's not just one persons work but a bunch of contribute used info being used and who will get full credit. The bounty is what's holding up release because now yall want to pay
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Easy first one to post the root or a stock rooted image... if someone has it but another puts it up for public use, then they should get the whole bounty not one who shows it but does not share... JMO.
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k1mu said:
As I've said before, bounties aren't my motivation. I post what I find and make it public.
This particular vulnerability is an interesting one, with a good potential for exploit. It is not going to be easy to exploit across a large number of phones.
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I was told by someone on another forum that's been looking at it for the RAZR HD/M that it needs to be able to directly access memory, which as we know, can't be done in Java. Are you looking at doing it in C? Just a curiosity is all.
Would this method allow custom kernels? Or just root?
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sherdog16 said:
Would this method allow custom kernels? Or just root?
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Just root. Unlocked bootkoader is needed for custom kernels.
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Probably Safestrap recovery by @Hashcode just like ATT S4 and Note 3..... per my buddy @Surge1223 we might able to use Note3 Kitkat Safestrap Recovery v3.72.... time would tell.
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I couldn't care or less if they release this root method. We already have several pre rooted ROMs with kitkat. I understand the exploit could be easier to root but I don't care how long it takes to root. I just want an unlocked bootloader. If anything we need to get more people to add to the bounty to maybe attract attention. And get as many devs working on it as possible. I am sure surge is probally getting tired of working on this for so long. It's been close to a year and nothing since loki. I bought my s4 because I thought it could be unlocked but I bought it just around the time Verizon patched loki which sucks
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Im just curious. Will this exploit trip the Knox counter?
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I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but this vulnerability is very difficult to exploit, and even if done correctly, will not be stable on the majority of devices. @jcase has already taken a look at this since the day it came out, and if he says it's not worth the time, it's not worth the time. Geohot may have been able to exploit it, but you only have access to a root shell for 15-20 seconds before the device becomes unstable and shuts down. SEAndroid is also an obstacle after the vulnerability has been exploited. While it's certainly possible, it's a bit far out of the ballpark to be feasible at this point in time.
Just wondering apart from the mods etcc.. Is there a huge discrepancy in speed that you guys have noticed between stock or any of the custom ROMs? Not rooted, just wondering
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Also do you guys use the roms from the unified thread? Or holding out until or if something gets figure out with knox
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daxecutioner24 said:
Just wondering apart from the mods etcc.. Is there a huge discrepancy in speed that you guys have noticed between stock or any of the custom ROMs? Not rooted, just wondering
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Nope. It's just a misconception (not saying you..just overall) that rooting makes phones faster. It can, but not unless you really know what you're doing. That being said, if you do want a faster phone, a custom kernel is the way to go IMO. Yeah a custom rom can get rid of some bloat and unnecessary files, but I would stick with a close to stock rom, like Beans' stock rom, and flash a custom kernel like ktoonsez's kernel. You can find the rom HERE and the kernel HERE.
About the unified section, yes, you can use any rom from there as long as it's for the G900F and not the G900H (the exynos one). Also, not sure what you mean by "till everything get's figured out with knox". If you flash a custom rom or kernel, knox will trip and there's probably never going to be a way to stop that since t-mobile doesn't even care anyway.
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Nope. It's just a misconception (not saying you..just overall) that rooting makes phones faster. It can, but not unless you really know what you're doing. That being said, if you do want a faster phone, a custom kernel is the way to go IMO. Yeah a custom rom can get rid of some bloat and unnecessary files, but I would stick with a close to stock rom, like Beans' stock rom, and flash a custom kernel like ktoonsez's kernel. You can find the rom HERE and the kernel HERE.
About the unified section, yes, you can use any rom from there as long as it's for the G900F and not the G900H (the exynos one). Also, not sure what you mean by "till everything get's figured out with knox". If you flash a custom rom or kernel, knox will trip and there's probably never going to be a way to stop that since t-mobile doesn't even care anyway.
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Thanks for the information. Yeah I'm well adept when it comes to rooting etcc.. I guess I wanted to know if the change from stock to custom is noticeable at the very least. Love ktoonz with the add on app. So Tmobile doesn't care? Any prove to that? Can they found out? that the warranty is voided. Thus the reason I included "till everything gets figured out with knox ". People in this forum are always worried about tripping knox hence the towel root breakthrough in which rooters swarmed.
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daxecutioner24 said:
Thanks for the information. Yeah I'm well adept when it comes to rooting etcc.. I guess I wanted to know if the change from stock to custom is noticeable at the very least. Love ktoonz with the add on app. So Tmobile doesn't care? Any prove to that? Can they found out? that the warranty is voided. Thus the reason I included "till everything gets figured out with knox ". People in this forum are always worried about tripping knox hence the towel root breakthrough in which rooters swarmed.
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Knox will never get figured out, they've been trying for a while... Best thing is to just root and try them all, just read read read first.
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Thanks for the information. Yeah I'm well adept when it comes to rooting etcc.. I guess I wanted to know if the change from stock to custom is noticeable at the very least. Love ktoonz with the add on app. So Tmobile doesn't care? Any prove to that? Can they found out? that the warranty is voided. Thus the reason I included "till everything gets figured out with knox ". People in this forum are always worried about tripping knox hence the towel root breakthrough in which rooters swarmed.
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I've jumped twice now from the Note 3 and S4 both with knox tripped. They didn't bother to check anything at the store and I haven't gotten billed for anything, so I don't think they care. There are other users on here with the same experience.
aooga said:
I've jumped twice now from the Note 3 and S4 both with knox tripped. They didn't bother to check anything at the store and I haven't gotten billed for anything, so I don't think they care. There are other users on here with the same experience.
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Yea. They might not even know how to check lol or what do the numbers mean lol. Think I'm just going to flash away. Your everywhere aooga keep up the good work
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tonyevo52 said:
Knox will never get figured out, they've been trying for a while... Best thing is to just root and try them all, just read read read first.
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Yea knox is a lost cause probably efuse or something
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aooga said:
I've jumped twice now from the Note 3 and S4 both with knox tripped. They didn't bother to check anything at the store and I haven't gotten billed for anything, so I don't think they care. There are other users on here with the same experience.
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I agree .My buudy just took a s4 back that was pretty much bricked and knox was tripped and they didn't even check they gave him an s5 and counted all his payments from the s4 towards it . I guess they would rather get a knox tripped phone from ya rather than a phone with a cracked screen . I told my buddy if they don't take it then just run over it with your car and claim it on his handset protection . Also the sales people are not that know;edgable . Their soulution to fix any problem is a good old factory reset ..LOL