Just wondering apart from the mods etcc.. Is there a huge discrepancy in speed that you guys have noticed between stock or any of the custom ROMs? Not rooted, just wondering
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Also do you guys use the roms from the unified thread? Or holding out until or if something gets figure out with knox
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daxecutioner24 said:
Just wondering apart from the mods etcc.. Is there a huge discrepancy in speed that you guys have noticed between stock or any of the custom ROMs? Not rooted, just wondering
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Nope. It's just a misconception (not saying you..just overall) that rooting makes phones faster. It can, but not unless you really know what you're doing. That being said, if you do want a faster phone, a custom kernel is the way to go IMO. Yeah a custom rom can get rid of some bloat and unnecessary files, but I would stick with a close to stock rom, like Beans' stock rom, and flash a custom kernel like ktoonsez's kernel. You can find the rom HERE and the kernel HERE.
About the unified section, yes, you can use any rom from there as long as it's for the G900F and not the G900H (the exynos one). Also, not sure what you mean by "till everything get's figured out with knox". If you flash a custom rom or kernel, knox will trip and there's probably never going to be a way to stop that since t-mobile doesn't even care anyway.
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Nope. It's just a misconception (not saying you..just overall) that rooting makes phones faster. It can, but not unless you really know what you're doing. That being said, if you do want a faster phone, a custom kernel is the way to go IMO. Yeah a custom rom can get rid of some bloat and unnecessary files, but I would stick with a close to stock rom, like Beans' stock rom, and flash a custom kernel like ktoonsez's kernel. You can find the rom HERE and the kernel HERE.
About the unified section, yes, you can use any rom from there as long as it's for the G900F and not the G900H (the exynos one). Also, not sure what you mean by "till everything get's figured out with knox". If you flash a custom rom or kernel, knox will trip and there's probably never going to be a way to stop that since t-mobile doesn't even care anyway.
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Thanks for the information. Yeah I'm well adept when it comes to rooting etcc.. I guess I wanted to know if the change from stock to custom is noticeable at the very least. Love ktoonz with the add on app. So Tmobile doesn't care? Any prove to that? Can they found out? that the warranty is voided. Thus the reason I included "till everything gets figured out with knox ". People in this forum are always worried about tripping knox hence the towel root breakthrough in which rooters swarmed.
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Thanks for the information. Yeah I'm well adept when it comes to rooting etcc.. I guess I wanted to know if the change from stock to custom is noticeable at the very least. Love ktoonz with the add on app. So Tmobile doesn't care? Any prove to that? Can they found out? that the warranty is voided. Thus the reason I included "till everything gets figured out with knox ". People in this forum are always worried about tripping knox hence the towel root breakthrough in which rooters swarmed.
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Knox will never get figured out, they've been trying for a while... Best thing is to just root and try them all, just read read read first.
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Thanks for the information. Yeah I'm well adept when it comes to rooting etcc.. I guess I wanted to know if the change from stock to custom is noticeable at the very least. Love ktoonz with the add on app. So Tmobile doesn't care? Any prove to that? Can they found out? that the warranty is voided. Thus the reason I included "till everything gets figured out with knox ". People in this forum are always worried about tripping knox hence the towel root breakthrough in which rooters swarmed.
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I've jumped twice now from the Note 3 and S4 both with knox tripped. They didn't bother to check anything at the store and I haven't gotten billed for anything, so I don't think they care. There are other users on here with the same experience.
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I've jumped twice now from the Note 3 and S4 both with knox tripped. They didn't bother to check anything at the store and I haven't gotten billed for anything, so I don't think they care. There are other users on here with the same experience.
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Yea. They might not even know how to check lol or what do the numbers mean lol. Think I'm just going to flash away. Your everywhere aooga keep up the good work
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Knox will never get figured out, they've been trying for a while... Best thing is to just root and try them all, just read read read first.
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Yea knox is a lost cause probably efuse or something
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aooga said:
I've jumped twice now from the Note 3 and S4 both with knox tripped. They didn't bother to check anything at the store and I haven't gotten billed for anything, so I don't think they care. There are other users on here with the same experience.
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I agree .My buudy just took a s4 back that was pretty much bricked and knox was tripped and they didn't even check they gave him an s5 and counted all his payments from the s4 towards it . I guess they would rather get a knox tripped phone from ya rather than a phone with a cracked screen . I told my buddy if they don't take it then just run over it with your car and claim it on his handset protection . Also the sales people are not that know;edgable . Their soulution to fix any problem is a good old factory reset ..LOL
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I always hear the warnings "rooting can brick your phone" but I was wondering how many have reported truly "Bricking" their phones trying to root?? I have a new GS2 and naturally a bit reluctant to root since it will void my warranty, but I am not a stranger to modding, I had a LG VU and with the help of guys from the LGVU forum I totally modded that phone to do be either a iPhone, Android or Storm looking/acting phone.. It took replacing system files and so on but I always backed up the originals so after 2 years of modding I was able to get the phone back to it factory state easily... The only "Bricking" resulted with LG VU members was due to having little tech sense or reading instructions on the correct procedures when modding..
That said, I felt the risk with the VU was minimal since I purchased it on ebay so there wasn't a warranty issue and more importantly it would have only cost me $100-150 to replace compared to this $500+ phone
My main reason for rooting is to get rid of the AT&T bloat and increase my battery life, a very knowledgeable member from the AT&T forum is also a Senior member/adviser here at XDA and reported increasing his battery life BIGTIME after rooting and making some changes post root.. TIA
If you do it perfectly, back up things you have to and flash kernels safely and absolutely by-the-book, nothing SHOULD happen. I've bricked an old GalaxyS1 by flashing a kernel but if you be extra careful and only get kernels that have been tested and generally, not f**k around, you'll be safe.
READ, READ, and READ some more. The best way to determine if something is safe or not is to really understand *what* you're doing.
What is "rooting" actually doing to your phone? How is it doing it? Answer that and you'll know if it's safe or not.
Spoiler Alert: If you don't do anything stupid, and aren't unlucky, it's perfectly safe.
its actually kinda hard to brick these phones by just attempting to root it. As long as you stay away from bootloaders, you'll be fine.
Buy a jig and go wild.
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its actually kinda hard to brick these phones by just attempting to root it. As long as you stay away from bootloaders, you'll be fine.
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Yup, the most important thing is:
Do NOT flash anything meant for the I9100. If the package includes bootloaders (many do), it will likely hose your device. Similarly, don't flash the UCKJ1 leak unless designgears has put up a "bootloader-free" version. While it won't brick you, it does eliminate the ability to use a jig to reset your "custom binary count" counter.
Other than that - anything linked to from the first post of a thread in the dev forum should be safe. (although some stuff, such as netchip's kernels, will result in you getting some experience with un-hosing your device with Odin/Heimdall.)
It's next to impossible to brick most Samsung phones, including ours, unless you mess with bootloaders. If you see the files boot.bin or Sbl.bin in a flash package, be VERY wary.
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Yup, the most important thing is:
Do NOT flash anything meant for the I9100. If the package includes bootloaders (many do), it will likely hose your device. Similarly, don't flash the UCKJ1 leak unless designgears has put up a "bootloader-free"
It's next to impossible to brick most Samsung phones, including ours, unless you mess with bootloaders. If you see the files boot.bin or Sbl.bin in a flash package, be VERY wary.
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thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
Captpt said:
thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-101-bootloaders-20110527/
info about bootloaders
Captpt said:
thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
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Rooting itself alone won't do anything.
A more aggressive debloating than what AT&T lets you do likely will.
Can't anything be fixed with Odin?
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seh6183 said:
Can't anything be fixed with Odin?
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anything, like what?
nyydynasty said:
anything, like what?
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Literally flashing a rom from another device with a different bootloader. Can't Odin just completely reflash all stock stuff?
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Literally flashing a rom from another device with a different bootloader. Can't Odin just completely reflash all stock stuff?
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The bootloader is the phone side of download mode. Break it, you break Odin.
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The bootloader is the phone side of download mode. Break it, you break Odin.
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Scary stuff.
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Scary stuff.
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It is along with being all greek at the moment... lots to read and research before doing anything..
As someone who just rooted his sg2 (which I got after getting rid of my iPhone this week), and as someone who had never used an android device previously, rooting was easy as pie.
And by that I mean things will turn out great if you take your time, chose a flavor (research), and follow the recipe (instructions).
I rooted and installed a ROM today. No issues at all. Just don't rush things and be sure to research.
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It is along with being all greek at the moment... lots to read and research before doing anything..
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Its not that hard to actually do the rooting and installing of custom roms. Once you get the hang of it, its nothing. The scary thing is that it becomes so easy that you could easily make a mistake and flash a corrupted bootloader and have a big problem on your hands.
Its almost too easy.
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I tired searching for this answer via search bar, but no avail
So I am a recent switcher; been using all iPhones up from the 3G and I made the plunge into buying the Galaxy S III and I %100 love it.
But there is many things I do not understand. First what is flashing the rom and the point of doing so
Roms are custom OS's. since android is an open source platform , devs are able to take the OS and put in their own bells and whistles to make it better. Or to delete the treasure Trove of bloatware put in by manufactures own custom OS's like htc's sense or our own touchwiz
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T3hBraveBoss said:
I tired searching for this answer via search bar, but no avail
So I am a recent switcher; been using all iPhones up from the 3G and I made the plunge into buying the Galaxy S III and I %100 love it.
But there is many things I do not understand. First what is flashing the rom and the point of doing so
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I'm a new user like you! Came from a Blackberry and I'm just starting to realize the amount of things you can do on Android. Quite amazing really.
I'm no expert, but the idea I get is that custom ROMs are custom OS that give you features and options above and beyond what the stock S3 ROM offers. There are many developers working on their own ROMs, you can check out the developer section for that. :3 But before you even flash a custom ROM you'll have to root your phone.
androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/
This link is pretty informative.
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Roms are custom OS's. since android is an open source platform , devs are able to take the OS and put in their own bells and whistles to make it better. Or to delete the treasure Trove of bloatware put in by manufactures own custom OS's like htc's sense or our own touchwiz
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so is there any roms that increase batter performance, keeping the touchwiz interface but removing all bloatwear apps
Check the development section for your version of the s3. The Roms and descriptions of them are in there
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Check the development section for your version of the s3. The Roms and descriptions of them are in there
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I find it hard to look for roms, they seem very confusing
can you help me? Im on the AT&T section
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so is there any roms that increase batter performance, keeping the touchwiz interface but removing all bloatwear apps
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Most ROMs have the option to remove bloatware I think. Even if they do not, once you have rooted your phone and installed Titanium Backup from the Playstore you should be able to remove any unwanted apps.
Omega ROM is a good ROM that keeps the touchwiz interface. It's one of the ROMs that is closest to stock interface. Try googling for that.
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Most ROMs have the option to remove bloatware I think. Even if they do not, once you have rooted your phone and installed Titanium Backup from the Playstore you should be able to remove any unwanted apps.
Omega ROM is a good ROM that keeps the touchwiz interface. It's one of the ROMs that is closest to stock interface. Try googling for that.
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can you find it for me, cant seem to find one for non-international verison
Do not use international roms!
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can you find it for me, cant seem to find one for non-international verison
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which carrier is your GS3 on?
edit:nvm i see your on at&t, this is a good stock, bloat free rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1755552
for better battery life, i recommend this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745516
remember to root your phone first, heres a video on how to root your phone specifically
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQL9fVSisFI
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can you find it for me, cant seem to find one for non-international verison
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Just check the android development forum for your device.
Looks pretty good, one more question rooting will void my warranty, if I unroot everything will be okay right
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I would seriously consider trying to learn more about rooting and the benefits/consequences before you attempt any kind of ROM flashing.
T3hBraveBoss said:
Looks pretty good, one more question rooting will void my warranty, if I unroot everything will be okay right
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ignore the post above me, Yes it will void your warranty and if you unroot then everything will be alright, look at my reply to you a page back on how to get started and if you ever need to unroot your phone just use this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5laWgJkW3A
Why dont you discuss them, every guide I checked were outdated
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If you're a noob don't do anything to your phone, there is a good chance you will brick it.
Just read forums watch some YouTube videos about flashing roms and what not.
Only then once you know the terminology, consequences of a screw up and general feel for things should you attempt to mess with your phone.
There is nothing wrong with stock, if you coming from Iphone first learn your Android inside out.
Don't be one of those asking if they need root, If you don't know what root is or what it does, you don't need it.
Rant over.
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Ghost77 said it best!!
If your a noob, don't try to do something to your phone, if you do not know what you are doing!!
With that said, Samsung phones (except Verizon S3) are the easiest phones to root and flash roms!! Do your homework and do major research before you attempt to do anything. Look at youtube videos and carefully pay attention to what they are doing.
Also because you have a S3, make sure you follow and download the right files and roms for your particular phone. For example, use i9300 roms only for international s3, i710 roms for sprint and so on. If you don't know your model number go to settings - about device - model number.
Finally, like ghost77 said, stock is not bad! Rooting and flashing roms is for those people who want that little more customization and performance improvements. For the average user, they probably won't even notice a difference between a rooted phone with a custom factory rom and a unrooted factory device.
Well I already rooted, I installed setcpu what would be a good speed to optimize battery life but keep good performance overall
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Everyone thinks that rooting your phone will void your warranty but if you watch this it states that under the "Magnuson Moss Warranty Act" Title 50 Chap 50 Section 2304 C) Waiver of Standards, it basically states that they have to prove that you did something to damage your device to void your warranty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YcIHaajda8&feature=g-user-u
I hate to ask this, but, I am curious as to the status of the VRUAME7 bootloader unlocking. I haven't seen any status updates since the bounty thread was closed. I'm aware root has been achieved, but seeing as I just got my S4, I'd like to experiment with different roms a bit.
Thanks.
Agree
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. If anyone has any information about this that would be awesome!
I hope soon - with over $5k in bounty, it shouldn't take long. LOL
It better be soon because I'm so sick of not having TWRP lol. 5k bounty should be more than enough!
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Agreed.
I'm debating whether or not to return this for an MDK version, because I really don't want to wait for shipping, and I've been really impressed with the S4 coming from an iPhone.
I think I'll just wait.
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I'm debating whether or not to return this for an MDK version, because I really don't want to wait for shipping, and I've been really impressed with the S4 coming from an iPhone.
I think I'll just wait.
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I came from an iPhone 5 too and tbh I'm glad I did I love this phone and I was on MDK when I got it but I updated like a dumbass. Not knowing that I had just sealed my fate for ever having custom ROMs and recovery. Oh well.
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Hi im new to the forums and pretty knew to modding phones, but i was wondering the status of this as well? and when any of the developers here on the forum think that maybe the bootloader will be unlocked? A family member passed away so i kinda of inherited the phone and i want to use it since its newer and better than mine but they had updated it to ME7 so im stuck now i guess until they can crack it Also i wanted to ask if since that might take a while, if its possible to like reset the phone to factory settings and would it put it back to MDK maybe? or is there a way to like flash it back to MDK or something so i would be able to root/unlock the bootloader then? If not its fine i guess ill have to wait. But i had cynogen on my old phone (the original droid lolz) and it was awesome so i was hoping i could put that on the S4 as well and get rid of all this crap bloatware on it too. Well thanks a lot for all your work nice to be part of the community now, so i hope they keep working on this and keep us updated ^_^
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Hi im new to the forums and pretty knew to modding phones, but i was wondering the status of this as well? and when any of the developers here on the forum think that maybe the bootloader will be unlocked? A family member passed away so i kinda of inherited the phone and i want to use it since its newer and better than mine but they had updated it to ME7 so im stuck now i guess until they can crack it Also i wanted to ask if since that might take a while, if its possible to like reset the phone to factory settings and would it put it back to MDK maybe? or is there a way to like flash it back to MDK or something so i would be able to root/unlock the bootloader then? If not its fine i guess ill have to wait. But i had cynogen on my old phone (the original droid lolz) and it was awesome so i was hoping i could put that on the S4 as well and get rid of all this crap bloatware on it too. Well thanks a lot for all your work nice to be part of the community now, so i hope they keep working on this and keep us updated ^_^
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I tried to flash it back thinking it might work but it didn't all it did was fail and leave me without a phone until I flashed ME7 again.
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I tried to flash it back thinking it might work but it didn't all it did was fail and leave me without a phone until I flashed ME7 again.
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ahh damn that sux sry that happend lol. soo much for that idea i guess lol T_T what about restoring it to factory settings like through the option on the phone itself? Will it just like reset and wipe everything but not rollback the version? Thanks for your response and with the bounty being so high and they managed to get a root for it pretty quickly i really hope they can unlock the bootloader so we can put custom roms on it soon :/
Useless thread...
Don't you think the news will be all over XDA if anyone does unlock the bootloader of the S4?
Hint: It's not because they haven't managed to unlock it yet and probably never will.
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Don't you think the news will be all over XDA if anyone does unlock the bootloader of the S4?
Hint: It's not because they haven't managed to unlock it yet and probably never will.
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You do realize an exploit similar to Loki would do the same thing an unlocked bootloader can do?
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Is it possible a future update may unpatch it?
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Ownage. said:
I hate to ask this, but, I am curious as to the status of the VRUAME7 bootloader unlocking. I haven't seen any status updates since the bounty thread was closed. I'm aware root has been achieved, but seeing as I just got my S4, I'd like to experiment with different roms a bit.
Thanks.
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In an attempt to answer the question, I've been following this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384222&page=23), but I haven't seen any updates on the last few pages.
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Is it possible a future update may unpatch it?
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It's just as likely as the oceans completely evaporating overnight.
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The best we can hope for out of future updates is that they have a vulnerability that's easier to find than whatever's still waiting to be discovered in ME7 (if any such vulnerability is hiding there).
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You do realize an exploit similar to Loki would do the same thing an unlocked bootloader can do?
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Yes and you do realize me winning the Powerball 25 consecutive weeks is more likely?
I believe in the devs here, many are working on it and too much time has passed w/o results, I believe if some exploit were possible it would have been found by now.
Sorry to be pessimistic but I think Samsung got it locked permanently and forever and, sorry to say it, but this probably means all future devices will arrive permanently locked down. :crying:
I'd sure love to be wrong about this.....
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Yes and you do realize me winning the Powerball 25 consecutive weeks is more likely?
I believe in the devs here, many are working on it and too much time has passed w/o results, I believe if some exploit were possible it would have been found by now.
Sorry to be pessimistic but I think Samsung got it locked permanently and forever and, sorry to say it, but this probably means all future devices will arrive permanently locked down. :crying:
I'd sure love to be wrong about this.....
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the motos got unlocked over 6 months after release, and that was considered by many to be completely impossible. Seeing this phone is more popular I think the chances are better, just will take time!
I put in an RMA with Negri electronics, and they're going to exchange mine for an MDK phone. Really should have done my research before updating...
Hello Friends,
Just bought a N3, and a current owner of an S4. Hope you're well. Quick questions:
1. What is the best/recommended way of rooting the N3. I heard Kingo or something like that works, flawlessly?
2. So I heard KNOX counter is ONLY tripped if a CUSTOM Recovery is flashed. I assume on the N3, we still need something like TWRP or CWM to flash Custom ROM, is that correct? If so, which one do you guys recommend? How do you flash it (Odin or Flashable ZIP {Link please?})? And will it void my warranty or up the KNOX count? If so, what exactly do I lose that way?
3. Where can I find the names of the Releases and Firmwares released for the Sprint N3? And what is the latest?
4. What ROM would you recommend that's polished AND highly customizable? (For S4 users, I am looking for something like "Sacs" for N3?
5. I noticed that the Development section is nearly dead for the Note 3. Especially for Sprint. AT&T didn't even have a single ROM, if I remember. Only the T-Mobile forum had a wide selection of ROMs for the Note 3. Anyone know, why and do we expect that to change around here?
Thank you in advance for helping me!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474222
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Kingo, custom recovery will trip Knox, mj4 Odin full tar.md5, idk because I've always been stock, true but like with the s4 touchwiz was good enough for me and pretty bug free.
ProFragger said:
Hello Friends,
Just bought a N3, and a current owner of an S4. Hope you're well. Quick questions:
1. What is the best/recommended way of rooting the N3. I heard Kingo or something like that works, flawlessly?
2. So I heard KNOX counter is ONLY tripped if a CUSTOM Recovery is flashed. I assume on the N3, we still need something like TWRP or CWM to flash Custom ROM, is that correct? If so, which one do you guys recommend? How do you flash it (Odin or Flashable ZIP {Link please?})? And will it void my warranty or up the KNOX count? If so, what exactly do I lose that way?
3. Where can I find the names of the Releases and Firmwares released for the Sprint N3? And what is the latest?
4. What ROM would you recommend that's polished AND highly customizable? (For S4 users, I am looking for something like "Sacs" for N3?
5. I noticed that the Development section is nearly dead for the Note 3. Especially for Sprint. AT&T didn't even have a single ROM, if I remember. Only the T-Mobile forum had a wide selection of ROMs for the Note 3. Anyone know, why and do we expect that to change around here?
Thank you in advance for helping me!
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ok.. So CF root is the best way using odin. . I also came from the galaxy s4 and really never gave thought to Knox it doesn't bother me and if you search you will get different answers about Knox from everyone, yes your warranty is now voided but if you can figure out how to reset your Knox to its original state and put back the original recovery and ROM yes you can get service from sprint in the sprint store. . But they will not service it with after market recovery and a themed ROM..I think the latest firmware is mj5 but What is available or what everyone is using I should say is mj4.. CHECK OUT JELLYBOMB ROM.. For the N3. . The development is slow in my opinion and only mine because the phone is new and the phone is pretty pricey for someone that wants to do an upgrade and not the 1 up thing. . And last but not least the developer didn't get there phones yet from there wives and girlfriend for x mas yet. So I think things will pick up in January. .
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oscarthegrouch said:
Kingo, custom recovery will trip Knox, mj4 Odin full tar.md5, idk because I've always been stock, true but like with the s4 touchwiz was good enough for me and pretty bug free.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474222
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ok.. So CF root is the best way using odin. . I also came from the galaxy s4 and really never gave thought to Knox it doesn't bother me and if you search you will get different answers about Knox from everyone, yes your warranty is now voided but if you can figure out how to reset your Knox to its original state and put back the original recovery and ROM yes you can get service from sprint in the sprint store. . But they will not service it with after market recovery and a themed ROM..I think the latest firmware is mj5 but What is available or what everyone is using I should say is mj4.. CHECK OUT JELLYBOMB ROM.. For the N3. . The development is slow in my opinion and only mine because the phone is new and the phone is pretty pricey for someone that wants to do an upgrade and not the 1 up thing. . And last but not least the developer didn't get there phones yet from there wives and girlfriend for x mas yet. So I think things will pick up in January. .
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Gentlemen, thank you very much for your very informative responses! Especially Monty on the extended response. Some follow ups come to mind:
1. So I could careless about service from Sprint. I bought mine from Craigslist and don't use the phone on Sprint, anyway. However, it seems like there is NO way to reverse the Knox counter, which means that I cannot get service from Samsung... is that true? (In case the Motherboard is fried or whatever?)
2. As Android owners, roaming the XDA, no less, I am sure you guys are like me, that is, you itch till you drop, until the phone's rooted and a Custom Recovery is on-board (am I right !?). If Custom Recoveries are needed for essentials like Custom ROMs and Nandroids, how are you guys making do WITHOUT those? I know Root + TitaniumBackup to remove Bloat, and Xposed Wanam will hold us over a bit. But how are you guys getting NEW, STOCK Rooted versions and not making Nandroids, with the Stock recoveries?
3. Agreed, and hoping that development picks up for these, otherwise it would be a shame. Still surprised to see how many ROMs they had over at T-Mobile and even Verizon forums !! Can any of those themes and or Mods be used with the Sprints?
4. So are we unanimous, JellyBomb is the closest to being the most customized(able) ROM available for Sprint Note 3s? If so, what exactly is that ROM? Is it TouchWiz or AOSP :-/?
5. For my S4 friends... is there a modification app like 3minit settings available that we can use with Stock, Rooted ROMs to change the COLOR of the Settings toggles?
Thanks again for getting the ball rolling on my questions, guys. I know they are a lot, but trying to learn as fast as possible !
If your motherboard is fried Samsung won't be able to turn the phone to see if Knox has been tripped. Best way in my opinion is to take all updates to MJ4 if you haven't yet, then root with kingo, your know should stay at 0. Then use Wanam exposed to make the mods you want. If you really want to make major changes you can always push the needed files via adb. Granted this isn't a complete ROM but it will get you close. I have been running stock with several tweaks applied by wanam and web and get great speed stability and battery.
Just my 2 cents.
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This Knox crap is irritating. Samsung may not get my money next time if htc plays it's cards right.
ifly4vamerica said:
If your motherboard is fried Samsung won't be able to turn the phone to see if Knox has been tripped. Best way in my opinion is to take all updates to MJ4 if you haven't yet, then root with kingo, your know should stay at 0. Then use Wanam exposed to make the mods you want. If you really want to make major changes you can always push the needed files via adb. Granted this isn't a complete ROM but it will get you close. I have been running stock with several tweaks applied by wanam and web and get great speed stability and battery.
Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for your response, bud. I am trying to root with Kingo, as we speak. Need some help from the forum for the following:
1. Can someone point me to a guide on how to remove Knox from the phone?
2. Can anyone help me get the 1x/3g mod on my phone?
3. I will also be using the phone flashed to another carrier. Any one of you guys doing that? And if so, how did you get rid of the No Sim error?
4. To de-bloat, can someone point me to a list of APKs, safe to remove for the Sprint variant. I want to keep all the cool features in the camera like Golf, Beauty, and etc?
Thank you again!
rooting WILL ALSO trip knox unless you do it in a way that does no (there is a thread on here about it and how to do it knox safe) I did not care I just rooted I am insured so the warranty is meaningless to me.
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rooting WILL ALSO trip knox unless you do it in a way that does no (there is a thread on here about it and how to do it knox safe) I did not care I just rooted I am insured so the warranty is meaningless to me.
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can you please tell me which way did you do it? i dropped my insurance so i really dont care about knox now. im on mj4..thanks
I don't actually remember it was a thread here on XDA I just followed the directions and I was rooted
I am doing this from my phone so searching is a little more difficult if I could figure out which that I use I will reply here again
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stang04 said:
can you please tell me which way did you do it? i dropped my insurance so i really dont care about knox now. im on mj4..thanks
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I used Kingo to root my phone with one click and no Knox trip.
Installing a Recovery trips the counter, but I realized that us... here in the Sprint Note 3 world don't really have great Custom ROMs to choose from... so why do it anyway? Maybe if I had the T - Mobile version or even Verizon ! That of course you miss out on Nandroids. I hope someone proves me wrong soon.
Just missing the 1x/3G Mod right now.. otherwise I'm all set with Rooted MJ4 and Xposed modules. Good luck...
Can anyone please point me to a list of "Safe to Remove" apps for the Sprint N3? Thanks!
Hi guys,
Can safestrap roms allow for overclocking or underclocking (with the stock samsung s4 kernel)?
Raymondlikesroot said:
Hi guys,
Can safestrap roms allow for overclocking or underclocking (with the stock samsung s4 kernel)?
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The stock kernel doesn't allow it. You can only use the stock kernel with Safestrap. So, no over/under clocking.
k1mu said:
The stock kernel doesn't allow it. You can only use the stock kernel with Safestrap. So, no over/under clocking.
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Oh, thanks. Does that mean the Hyperdrive rom CPU settings will not work for me? Thanks! Sorry.. I'm new to andriod. It just that Im confused why hyperdrive would have that CPU settings feature if it doesn't work.
Raymondlikesroot said:
Oh, thanks. Does that mean the Hyperdrive rom CPU settings will not work for me? Thanks! Sorry.. I'm new to andriod. It just that Im confused why hyperdrive would have that CPU settings feature if it doesn't work.
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I believe those settings only work for a phone with an unlocked bootloader. Those are settings best left alone unless you know what you're doing.
You can mess with some settings on the stock kernel but you shouldn't, Samsung uses a special hotplugging governor dependent on a lot more factors then your usual custom kernel, so unless you really know kernels inside and out then you'll only hinder your kernel. The app will also show you that you changed settings in the stock kernel that really can't be changed.
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You can mess with some settings on the stock kernel but you shouldn't, Samsung uses a special hotplugging governor dependent on a lot more factors then your usual custom kernel, so unless you really know kernels inside and out then you'll only hinder your kernel. The app will also show you that you changed settings in the stock kernel that really can't be changed.
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It's been my experience that any developer worth his salt is using a kernel as customized for his ROM as he can make it. He might not get it exactly right the first time or two out the door, but he will get it right.
douger1957 said:
It's been my experience that any developer worth his salt is using a kernel as customized for his ROM as he can make it. He might not get it exactly right the first time or two out the door, but he will get it right.
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There's a few AOSP developers who build ROMs and kernels but developers usually only work on one disclipine.
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joshm.1219 said:
There's a few AOSP developers who build ROMs and kernels but developers usually only work on one disclipine.
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I guess I could have been a bit clearer. The developers I've followed over the years will work with the kernel guys to get one tweaked for their ROM. snuzzo over with Rezounds seemed to be a master chef of kernels.
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I guess I could have been a bit clearer. The developers I've followed over the years will work with the kernel guys to get one tweaked for their ROM. snuzzo over with Rezounds seemed to be a master chef of kernels.
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Got ya, times are different with this phone since only MDK users can even touch their kernel.
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joshm.1219 said:
Got ya, times are different with this phone since only MDK users can even touch their kernel.
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Unfortunately, several people seem to think that Safestrap allows them to flash custom kernels.
Well, in one sense, that's true. You can flash a custom kernel on a MK2/MJ7 phone. When the flash completes, you've bricked your phone and set the warranty void flag. But it did flash, right?
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Unfortunately, several people seem to think that Safestrap allows them to flash custom kernels.
Well, in one sense, that's true. You can flash a custom kernel on a MK2/MJ7 phone. When the flash completes, you've bricked your phone and set the warranty void flag. But it did flash, right?
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And then the questions regarding Odin begin lol
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And then the questions regarding Odin begin lol
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gathering basic information would prevent 95% of what we see in bricking.....
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gathering basic information would prevent 95% of what we see in bricking.....
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When I get a new phone.. I hop on XDA and read read read then I download the factory images I WOULD need in case I need Odin to rescue me. Just seems like people don't ever get prepared in case something goes wrong. I suppose though people learn from mistakes... I sure have
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When I get a new phone.. I hop on XDA and read read read then I download the factory images I WOULD need in case I need Odin to rescue me. Just seems like people don't ever get prepared in case something goes wrong. I suppose though people learn from mistakes... I sure have
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I got my phone on Verizon's Edge program. I can get a new phone every six months. I needed to be sure that I could get this thing back to stock before I rooted. I've been reading these threads since I got the phone in September... in fact, I read these threads plus those for the phones I was considering.
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I got my phone on Verizon's Edge program. I can get a new phone every six months. I needed to be sure that I could get this thing back to stock before I rooted. I've been reading these threads since I got the phone in September... in fact, I read these threads plus those for the phones I was considering.
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Good deal! I know there's a lot to look through on here and a lot to learn. Luckily there are stickies made that answer pretty much all those kind of questions. You'll be good.. You can always use Odin and get it back to complete stock.
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Good deal! I know there's a lot to look through on here and a lot to learn. Luckily there are stickies made that answer pretty much all those kind of questions. You'll be good.. You can always use Odin and get it back to complete stock.
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Once I knew that... and they were able to root the Jelly Bean updates... I jumped in and did the deed myself.
Maybe if they were to sticky a "what you need to know, read this first" thread at the very top of each of the forums, it might cut down on the redundant questions.
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Once I knew that... and they were able to root the Jelly Bean updates... I jumped in and did the deed myself.
Maybe if they were to sticky a "what you need to know, read this first" thread at the very top of each of the forums, it might cut down on the redundant questions.
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There is one...
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