Kit Kat one step closer - T-Mobile HTC One (M7)

There is a link on androidpolice saying kit Kat ota for developer edition and unlocked is out now
Looks like sense version now has kit Kat so now it's a matter of time before the tmobile version gets it?
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End of January
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Where'd ya get that info?
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Can't post links but it's all over Google and I found it on androidpolice
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If you are following USA HTC president on Twitter he has said release dates for the HTC one
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I do not use Twitter however the turn around time is amazing
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Right on- Hopefully T-Mobile will have their Kit Kat roll-out sometime soon.
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Wow, can't believe how much HTC has improved. Samsung is sooo slow lately they barely mention kit kat and give us 4.3 which att still hasn't given us officially. Really thinking of getting a one if I wasnt so addicted to the spen
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Best phone I've ever had. Until I went to the future and bought this sweet Two.
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Its live And I'm on T-Mobile not unlocked or dev edition so yeah
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No it's not live yours is a fluke you even said yourself that you can not update it
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Maybe cuz I really don't have a dev edition phone what a noob get over yourself
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invisiblefire101 said:
Maybe cuz I really don't have a dev edition phone what a noob get over yourself
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No maybe because T-Mobile doesn't even have it yet, because it's still in testing, noob! You honestly have no clue what you are talking about, but go ask people like Mike1986 or or developers like that and tell them mugetsu666 told you to ask. Or you could ask me as I am a developer or even behold_this or toby as we're all developers for this device in this forum and will tell you that you are Very wrong! If it was out there for T-Mobile, I promise you either myself or one of the other named developers would have roms up. So stop acting like you know something and then calling others noobs, because they called you on it.
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mugetsu666 said:
No maybe because T-Mobile doesn't even have it yet, because it's still in testing, noob! You honestly have no clue what you are talking about, but go ask people like Mike1986 or or developers like that and tell them mugetsu666 told you to ask. Or you could ask me as I am a developer or even behold_this or toby as we're all developers for this device in this forum and will tell you that you are Very wrong! If it was out there for T-Mobile, I promise you either myself or one of the other named developers would have roms up. So stop acting like you know something and then calling others noobs, because they called you on it.
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invisiblefire101 said:
Maybe cuz I really don't have a dev edition phone what a noob get over yourself
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Very simple to be honest I got a tmobile non dev phone just rooted n the update is coming up I even took a screenshot to prove it but not enough for u guys n I flash a stock 4.3 from here n it doesn't say anything bout it bn dev or unlocked so I thought it be a good idea to say something I'm not s off or anything so I guess I'm just wrong then it's like getting accused of murder with evidence that it wasn't me with u guys GEES
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invisiblefire101 said:
Very simple to be honest I got a tmobile non dev phone just rooted n the update is coming up I even took a screenshot to prove it but not enough for u guys n I flash a stock 4.3 from here n it doesn't say anything bout it bn dev or unlocked so I thought it be a good idea to say something I'm not s off or anything so I guess I'm just wrong then it's like getting accused of murder with evidence that it wasn't me with u guys GEES
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Your "evidence" is the exact thing that proves that you are mistaken. T-Mobile ROMs are all numbered x.xx.531.x (ie 3.24.531.3), while HTC developer ROMs are all x.xx.1540.x (ie 4.06.1540.2).
I will explain this further to you so you don't make this mistake again, using the 4.06.1540.2 rom as an example. The version number breaks down as follows:
4.xx.xxxx.x = fourth Android base for device, in this case KitKat 4.4 (4.1.2, 4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4)
x.06.xxxx.x = Rom build
x.xx.1540.x = developer edition device
x.xx.xxx.2 = build reversion number
So, now, as you can see, it really doesn't matter what you THINK, you were in fact mistaken when you claimed the T-mobile variant of the ROM was available . It would have been big of you to just admit that you were mistaken and move on instead of posting here (and other threads) over and over to try and convince the rest of us you're right and in the process insulting others and calling them noobs.
Most of us know the real deal. To say your phone is untouched is just not accurate. You would not have received the OTA without modifying the device in some way. Now I'm not going to get into a debate with you about what you did or didn't do, though I'm sure you'll post back saying once again you've done nothing, the fact is your evidence is against you.

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Your "evidence" is the exact thing that proves that you are mistaken. T-Mobile ROMs are all numbered x.xx.531.x (ie 3.24.531.3), while HTC developer ROMs are all x.xx.1540.x (ie 4.06.1540.2).
I will explain this further to you so you don't make this mistake again, using the 4.06.1540.2 rom as an example. The version number breaks down as follows:
4.xx.xxxx.x equals android 4.4
x.06.xxxx.x equals Rom build
x.xx.1540.x equals developer edition device
x.xx.xxx.3 equals build reversion number
So, now, as you can see, it really doesn't matter what you THINK, you were in fact mistaken when you claimed the T-mobile variant of the ROM was available . It would have been big of you to just admit that you were mistaken and move on instead of posting here (and other threads) over and over to try and convince the rest of us you're right and in the process insulting others and calling them noobs.
Most of us know the real deal. To say your phone is untouched is just not accurate. You would not have received the OTA without modifying the device in some way. Now I'm not going to get into a debate with you about what you did or didn't do, though I'm sure you'll post back saying once again you've done nothing, the fact is your evidence is against you.
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I don't think it could've been put any butter by HTC or T-Mobile!
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I don't think it could've been put any butter by HTC or T-Mobile!
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I didn't say untouch I know better than that I just don't know what ruu I have that the update shows up which clearly is dev or unlocked but the real question was y it's not letting install if it coming up on my phone
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invisiblefire101 said:
I didn't say untouch I know better than that I just don't know what ruu I have that the update shows up which clearly is dev or unlocked but the real question was y it's not letting install if it coming up on my phone
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You did to say untouched. You said ur not unlocked or on dev edition, that you were stock T-Mobile. So now you don't know what ruu you've run on ur phone which means you're at least unlocked and most possible S-off. I think it's best if you just stop now before other people really tell how You have No clue what you're doing or what you're talking about!
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By far. best thread i have read on XDA lol. Thanks you for the great read behold_this, mugetsu666 and of course invisiblefire101.
anyway~ anyone know if the REAL....OTA will be just 4.4 or 4.4.x?

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What is the "Official" condition of the E3D Bootloader?

This forum is filled with what seems like educated guesses and half confident answers. I've heard just locked, and signed/encrypted to just signed. The question all of us basically want to know is whats the status of the bootloader compared to that of the Sensation, which from my understanding is locked/signed and therefore near impossible to crack. I dont think encryption was ever the fear.
Hope somebody can clear this up for me and all of XDA.
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It's not the locked/signed boot loader that would stop devs from achieving it, its when there Encrypted, which many believe it is and encryption is what would stop development. With as much guessing as there's been, i don't think anyone at this point actually knows. we'll find out as we get closer to launch and all the test units go out or till its actual release.
Uplinked through my mind
Go into the "evo 3d locked bootloader " thread and read the 15th comment, OMJ posted a great interview.
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you sure its the 15th post haha. I didn't see what you were referring to.
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Over in the Evo board there is a thread by Virus with the leaked rom. Someone looked and said the bootloader is locked but not encrypted.
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I understand that much, all android bootloaders are technically locked. But if it's signed then the process of unlocking it is very difficult. I'm just wondering if its both signed and locked in the same locked down way that the sensation is, or if it is just locked as the EVO was before it.
If someone could clear up how bootloader locking work, that would also help.
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my bad, i forgot i had clicked a link in the thread i said before look in the "What is sprints stance on locked bootloaders" thread.
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user7618 said:
Over in the Evo board there is a thread by Virus with the leaked rom. Someone looked and said the bootloader is locked but not encrypted.
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The leak thread stated locked and signed, not encrypted
Did the evo have a signed bl?
Tapa tapa tapa
the evo had a locked bootloader/nand with signed updates but the partitions themselves weren't signed.
and in this case they are? So theres really no relief from HTC. They did the same thing they did with all the other phones...
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and in this case they are? So theres really no relief from HTC. They did the same thing they did with all the other phones...
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no? the other phones where encrypted
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no? the other phones where encrypted
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Right for the most part I've gone through dumps and ruu for a lot of HTC divices and for the most part biggest difference I saw was some of the sensation files are different
But encrypted a signed bl or certs they all are atrix is deff encrypted
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I don't think you will get a solid answer until people start getting their hands on the device. This thread was kind of pointless to start when there are other threads going on about the same issue
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I mean xtc clip would most likely work I believe it did for inc s.
Also speaking to the dude from there says sensation is next Idk time will tell but if inc s was able to s off Idk why the sensation can't or 3d being there the same thing minus 3d and carrier differnce
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Bigjim1488 said:
I don't think you will get a solid answer until people start getting their hands on the device. This thread was kind of pointless to start when there are other threads going on about the same issue
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that's not entirely true considering the sensation forums have a pretty clear idea what's going on in there. just don't know what they can do with it yet. and the other threads are the reason for this thread.
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Sensation is locked and I'm 99% sure EVO 3D will be too. But if devs unlock the Sensation, can they use the same method for E3D? Am I thinking right?
*Off-topic: Any news about GSM version?
http://dev.androidpolice.com/2011/0...r-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
as posted in the EVO4G section today...
Fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!
Well cross EVO 3D off my list.
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Official JELLYBEAN complain thread(bugs, glitches)

Since JB is supposed to come out later today, it is almost expected to come with bugs and instead of like having 10 threads open at the same time complaining about x feature, I think it.would be a great idea to have it consolidated in one place just like.the official goodbye thread.
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I dont like the lag that im getting on JB! my LTE is taking too long to connect and wtf i have less ram available??
(something like that)
When are we getting 4.2? WTF Sprint and HTC?
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fpineda101 said:
When are we getting 4.2? WTF Sprint and HTC?
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I just spit coffee all over my monitor...........
jauger said:
I just spit coffee all over my monitor...........
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hahahaha
How about we not do this until it actually hits? And maybe since all of us are rooted and of course, all of us are smarter than to take an OTA, we wait till someone like Haus at least uploads a rooted stock of it?
If you're willing to help document issues with the update let me know once it's released, but as of now this thread is just a bit premature.

Does HTC just like losing money?

HTC is taking down websites with custom Roms for their device. Why, if they don't stop this it looks like I will be getting a nexus device next. Here's the article. http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-takes-down-rom-files-across-the-web-150757/ what are your guys opinions?
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I heard, starting on the 26th, that having an unlocked device is actually going to be illegal. At first I thought that the article was just talking about the iPhone but I guess not.
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Ahh hell no this is not possible.
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jerrickdamon said:
I heard, starting on the 26th, that having an unlocked device is actually going to be illegal. At first I thought that the article was just talking about the iPhone but I guess not.
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Unlocked as in on a different carrier not as in unlocked bootloader.
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Ndaoud360 said:
Ahh hell no this is not possible.
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Hell no is right! I'm just starting to love the concept of roms with add features.
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MsEvyLynch said:
Hell no is right! I'm just starting to love the concept of roms with add features.
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I hope not, im trying to figure out how to unlock my dna now...
YAYFORKYLE said:
I hope not, im trying to figure out how to unlock my dna now...
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Lol. Better do it before its to late.
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jonah1234 said:
HTC is taking down websites with custom Roms for their device. Why, if they don't stop this it looks like I will be getting a nexus device next. Here's the article. http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-takes-down-rom-files-across-the-web-150757/ what are your guys opinions?
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Calm down that's about RUU files not custom roms.... RUUs have typically been leaked anyway... Not a big deal or really a shock...
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sgt. slaughter said:
Calm down that's about RUU files not custom roms.... RUUs have typically been leaked anyway... Not a big deal or really a shock...
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It says custom Roms too.
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jerrickdamon said:
I heard, starting on the 26th, that having an unlocked device is actually going to be illegal. At first I thought that the article was just talking about the iPhone but I guess not.
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Unlocking your device yourself will be illegal but the carrier can still unlock it for you ( sim unlock not boot loader )
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People are getting upset about something they don't fully understand... This law is for unlocking the phone to bring to other carriers to use... not unlocking or rooting. and our phone comes factory unlocked so there's no reason to QQ here on the DNA forums...
I love the DNA and I hate to say it ... but if this is how it's going to be then my next phone will not be an HTC device. Their build quality and overall hardware is fantastic, but I find it ridiculous that they're going after dev's like this. I'd rather pick up a Galaxy S4 when it's released and unload my DNA if this is how they're going to treat their market/buyers.
Seems HTC didn't want prerelease leaked ruu's out which were obtained by illegal means as the main reason for the shutdown.
If we host a Sense 5 Rom, same thing might happen here I suppose.
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MicroMod777 said:
Seems HTC didn't want prerelease leaked ruu's out which were obtained by illegal means as the main reason for the shutdown.
If we host a Sense 5 Rom, same thing might happen here I suppose.
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Exactly it is most likely this. +1
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YAYFORKYLE said:
I hope not, im trying to figure out how to unlock my dna now...
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Umm... It is unlocked... Factory unlocked... They are talking about switching carriers not the bootloader...
jonah1234 said:
It says custom Roms too.
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No it doesn't It says HTC is telling the site they have to remove custom roms. The law says nothing about custom roms.
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jerrickdamon said:
I heard, starting on the 26th, that having an unlocked device is actually going to be illegal. At first I thought that the article was just talking about the iPhone but I guess not.
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iPhone 5s come unlocked.
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No it doesn't It says HTC is telling the site they have to remove custom roms. The law says nothing about custom roms.
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iPhone 5s come unlocked.
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Only the Verizon version of the Iphone 5 the rest are locked. That one really shocked me too. The DNA, Iphone 5, and I think there was another one this is very unlike Verizon.
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It says custom Roms too.
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I realize IT said that about that one site but the motivation is the RUUs obtained that are hosted on that site. That's the driver. Don't host RUUs and there won't be an issue.
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cstrife999 said:
Only the Verizon version of the Iphone 5 the rest are locked. That one really shocked me too. The DNA, Iphone 5, and I think there was another one this is very unlike Verizon.
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Very unlike them. They normally lock everything down, and make you suffer before they even think about unlocking a phone for you.
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Estimated delivery of our update

When do YOU think we will get our 1.29 update? Will they skip it and roll out an update when they deliver 4.2.2?
I want to hear your opinions
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Cell Master said:
When do YOU think we will get our 1.29 update? Will they skip it and roll out an update when they deliver 4.2.2?
I want to hear your opinions
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To be honest, I have no clue and don't care . I never wait for carrier updates anymore, just flash the international rom and get updates that way. Just my opinion.
Agreed. One of the main reasons I have this phone. International **** is way better.
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Cell Master said:
When do YOU think we will get our 1.29 update? Will they skip it and roll out an update when they deliver 4.2.2?
I want to hear your opinions
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As soon as the donation start pouring in
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Cell Master said:
When do YOU think we will get our 1.29 update? Will they skip it and roll out an update when they deliver 4.2.2?
I want to hear your opinions
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Usually rolls out when you pay your bill
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I'd rather they just skip to 4.2.2 and get it to the international model for me to flash.
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Oh GOD. PLEASE NO! NO NO NO!
I say meh..... It don't matter. We won't even be able to tell the phone updated until we read it in the about phone settings. I for one am totally over sitting around waiting for crappie carrier updates that only bring more bloat and potential bootloader locks. If version numbers are important to you, I would get a Nexus.
Although I can't stop checking XDA everyday to see if Team Venom dropped Viper One..... Its coming..... Oh its coming. I can't wait....... Its killing me.
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I'll root and install a rom after a good 4.2.2 rom is released
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Cell Master said:
When do YOU think we will get our 1.29 update? Will they skip it and roll out an update when they deliver 4.2.2?
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didn't you already find a way to "push" this too our phones?
Oh god he's back
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july 15th. maybe later
Remember you have pushed this 1.29 update to your phone already, but haven't shared it with us because you have bills to pay.
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Why is this kid still on the forums? He needs a permanent ban.
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Flash the dev edition 1.29 rom, done.
tylerdurdin said:
I say meh..... It don't matter. We won't even be able to tell the phone updated until we read it in the about phone settings. I for one am totally over sitting around waiting for crappie carrier updates that only bring more bloat and potential bootloader locks. If version numbers are important to you, I would get a Nexus.
Although I can't stop checking XDA everyday to see if Team Venom dropped Viper One..... Its coming..... Oh its coming. I can't wait....... Its killing me.
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I agree with you sentiment. I can't wait to get android 4.2. I'll get it early because I'm already using Cleanrom 2.5 which is 1.29 based. I know it will eventually go to android 4.2, I'll flash and then I doubt I'll notice it on a day to day basis. If I get a little better battery life, I'll be ecstatic.
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I agree with you sentiment. I can't wait to get android 4.2. I'll get it early because I'm already using Cleanrom 2.5 which is 1.29 based. I know it will eventually go to android 4.2, I'll flash and then I doubt I'll notice it on a day to day basis. If I get a little better battery life, I'll be ecstatic.
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Cleanrom is 1.26 based.
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Cleanrom is 1.26 based.
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So it is, I thought it had been updated to the 1.29 based kernel. I was flashing the ElementalX kernel over Cleanrom but didn't do it when he went to Cleanrom 2.5. Thanks for pointing that out, I was mistaken.
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Why is this kid still on the forums? He needs a permanent ban.
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I made one or two sour jokes and I apologized
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Cell Master said:
I made one or two sour jokes and I apologized
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That doesn't mean you haven't spammed the forums with numerous threads that are of no value to anybody. If you don't have anything ACTUALLY useful to contribute then you should stick to lurking and flashing roms. And even if you did have something useful to say nobody was joking when they said delete your account and start over. You will likely never be taken seriously here.
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HTC may allow existing HTC One owners to replace Sense with stock Android

http://bgr.com/2013/05/31/htc-one-stock-android-rom/
drksilenc said:
http://bgr.com/2013/05/31/htc-one-stock-android-rom/
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It was also said that this update could potentially be very difficult. Im guessing they will realease an RUU and call it a day. Will still require rooting the phone and installing the rom
Why haven't you deleted your freaking account yet? We don't care about your stupid opinion.
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Me or cell?
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Me or cell?
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cell - he has a following
Cell Master said:
It was also said that this update could potentially be very difficult. Im guessing they will realease an RUU and call it a day. Will still require rooting the phone and installing the rom
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Stop
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Cell Master said:
It was also said that this update could potentially be very difficult. Im guessing they will realease an RUU and call it a day. Will still require rooting the phone and installing the rom
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DONATIONS DONATIONS DONATIONS! YOU NEED TO BEAT IT MAN YOUR REP HERE IS SH IT SERIOUSLY YOU NEED TO MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT
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Have an HTC One coming next week and the idea of being able to replace it with stock Android makes it potentially much sweeter. I love the Nexus 4 performance and it does everything I want but I can't get over how nice the One is every time I hold it so I had to pick one up to try it out as my daily driver. Had a One X awhile back running Viper ROM which was very nice so I would imagine I can just run with the stock Sense until stock Android is available. Saves me from buying the Googled version of the One if HTC will be providing an update.
I could never give up Highlights & Zoe.
I'm fine with Sense. Just need root and I can do whatever I need.
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I am enjoying Zoe and highlights myself. I love using it with my family and sharing it on my 60" HDTV with the Media Link HD.
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A link from bgr? Not sure this is worth anyone's time. They suck.
that's so good.but is it difficult? best rc pliers
I would not give up zoe and highlights, gallery software for stock android, which imo is horrible lol

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